Funny The last time I was researching FPV stuff it was Black Box. Now I find the best review yet I've seen about the Connex and Josh, the BB king, is the first review I see ;) Great review guys mine is on the way, my brain lags way more than the 30FPS :)
Guys this is the best video you have done this far. So much real world situations and tests, loved it. Also Chad awesome job asking the right questions and describing exactly what we have all been wondering. Thanks for testing and your honest feedback. Keep up the awesome work Rotor Riot. Happy flying yes more tests, lots more tests, range tests, how multiple pilots, etc.
This video is a great example of why Rotor Riot is my favorite channel. Some channels are all bench tests. Some are all FPV videos. Some are all guys clowning around. But Rotor Riot has a great mix of fun, bench testing, screwing around, field testing (which few channels do!), honest reviews, and, obviously, the best FPV videos ever made. It doesn't hurt that everyone's such a natural behind the camera and behind the goggles. Great stuff guys and keep 'em coming!
Dear Rotor Riot Crew, Just wanted to say thank you for being super awesome dudes and promoting quad racing with a happy and enthusiastic state of mind. I went to Drone Nationals 2016, the second day, and had so much fun. By now I have been flying for about a year and am currently comfortable to start using my FPV goggles. (Up to now I've flown LOS) I met Chad and had him sign my goggles, which was awesome. After watching you guys freestyle and numerous races, you guys inspired me to go home and push my self to fly better. Today I attempted my first flip and roll and was very successful, I didn't crash once! Thank you for making my summer awesome, that's saying a lot considering I just got back from 3 weeks in Europe and my birthday was a week ago! You guys rock, Owen P.S. Chad, not sure if you remember me, I asked you to sign my goggles inside the "aquarium", my Dad also explained how much he loved Australia when he was there. Thanks again for being super cool, your kinda my idol.
Guys, thanks for a great review. Many points taken, and will certainly be working on it. Charles, cool setup on your quad, was glad to see ProSight still working like that with one antenna down.
Aw some to see vendors engaging. If you guys let the RR guys test these out in a race situation with 6-8 pilots it might help drive home a huge benefit versus the surrender analog setups, which are plain horrible at races. Solid video could change the racing game. It would be great to see a demo to illustrate that.
Please do more testing - all the things Chad said plus more. I watched a ton of reviews of the prosight but this was the first one that actually was of great help. Looking forward to the next episode, keep up the good work guys!
Guys. The added "lag" you feel is not due to the lower frame rate. It's just extra latency due to HD processing of 720p at full bitrate. You're not flying 60 frames per second analog either. Yes, NTSC transmits 60 interlaced fields per second, but you're using CCD cameras that capture whole frames at only 30fps and LCD displays which display at 30 frames per second progressive (also whole frame at once). There's just less latency between the time the analog frame is captured, and when it's displayed. If you tried to fly with something like an analog Effio V camera, it would feel very much like Prosight in HP mode. Just extra lag. Otherwise your observations pretty much match my own. HQ looks great, but the added latency is too much for aggressive flying (freestyle, proximity and racing). HP mode has very little latency, but the light handling is dreadful. BTW, you should not have seen *any* breakups in the signal with clear LoS, especially at short range. That was probably due to the broken antenna (or antennas). I had a similar experience.
Great review guys!! Can't believe you guys were in my backyard for this episode. I live less than a mile from here. This technology- the future? Dynamic range seems AMAZING! For sure MORE real world testing would be greatly appreciated!
I would like to see more videos like this about new products. You guys are always the first to see and touch new products and its nice to see a review from top pilots rather than Billy Bob whos been flying for 3 months trying to tell you if a product is good or not.
All the scientific testing, the painstaking integration and the serious brain power involved in moving our video from analog to digital is greatly appreciated. Once fully vetted, digital video will open up a whole world of better possibilities for FPV and external viewers. What was done here is so much more close to where the rubber meets the road, this is exactly what we need to see and how it works in the environments we fly and with the people we fly with. Thanks Rotor Riot!
You have 5 rubber ducky antennas there. If you point all of them up then diversity is doing absolutely nothing. How about if you cover all 3 axis and 2x 45deg? would this eliminate freezing issue? The range at which freezing happens is really putting off, especially when you consider the price-tag of Connex system...
I know right lol Well maybe in ever episode(well maybe not every episode) somebody tends to give him shit about him flying mode 1 it's like the old saying ''The nail that sticks out is the one that gets hammered''
Thanks guys... Been waiting for this. I'd definitely like to see more extensive testing with your points of view see if it gets better with experience.
Loved the video!! Great insight on how you guys test new tech coming into the hobby. Great feedback without bashing the crap out of it like some people would. Would love to see more of that!
great video guys! your episodes are getting better every week. im also flying with prosight and got the same breakup as you did and still trying to figure out what causes it. was not an analog signal or the distance, as i was flying alone and the quad was basically beside me. it does not happen that much if you fly with fixed frequency. the 30fps feel is not "natural" at first but you will get used to it ... and the better picture kills it all.
thank you for the test.. and yes please more test... it looks like the technology is close but just not quite there yet but I am very excited to see it in the works.
Yess!! Please continue to test this. I would love to see a distance test compared to a 600mw analog vtx.......Oh and great video as always. I love rotor riot mondays!!
You guys should look into flying the goat canyon trestle in the deserts east of San Diego. It's abandoned, it's HUGE (largest curved trestle in the world), and it's secluded. Heck of a hike to get in there, but would make an EPIC day of flying. There's also a bunch of railroad tunnels to shoot - some up to 150 feet and curved. Keep up the great episodes!
Real world testing of technical limits of the hardware you guys use, I think, is a great idea. It would allow others to know what to expect when getting into the field.
one of the best episodes yet, very informative great real world review, guess its safe to say its just not there yet for racing or freestyling, but im sure it will find its place in the market. Great job guys!
im sure its dull to film for you guys but the reviews every now and then are great. even the talk comparing your setup to this gives in site to both systems.
Nice real world testing!! I would love to see you guys really put this product to the test!! Do some actual racing with analog in the mix!! I'm still waiting for people to say that they have completely changed over to using this product 100% of the time before I pull the trigger!
Surprisingly good for early tech. Since there is an apparent data budget with the 720p30 vs 720i60 I would love to see a 480p60 mode where the extra data is used for image redundancy to extend range / reduce breakup.
Can y'all do a beginners guide(s) to quad components i.e. -Flight controllers (Taranis Pro, etc.) -Software (Clean Flight) -Board components -FPV gear (FatShark,etc) Just basically a component tutorial of sorts for us new kids who are getting into the sport because of your vids and the term "shredding balls"!!! Thanks guys!
More tests please. Zero/low latency HD fpv is the future..... since the first time I flew analog I've longed for a zero latency HD fpv setup. I mean who wouldn't want 1080 details and crispness while flying zero latency am I right??? For this "sport" to grow HD fpv setups are a MUST for both pilots and spectators. After watching your video it appears there is more work that needs to be done to get us all there. HD is where we need to be. But if it's not there yet it's not there. Thank for your honest reviews, looking forward to more.
Very informative session (warts and all without the manufacturer marketing hype that you sometimes have to put up with in these type of "test" vids). Well done.
yes, I would like to see another video with 4 of the connex flying at the same time. Put it in 60 fps and race. And throw a couple analogs in there too. See how many you can have at one time. And I wish steele was there too, I know he was very leary of the prosight. It would be great to see what he says about it.
Thanks for another informative video! I'd love to see more stress tests for the ProSight. Probably won't buy into this first gen of HD links, but I'm keeping an eye on them!
I'd really like to see more of the HD technology. It's very intriguing to me because I know a lot of people that won't get into it until HD equipment is cheaper. I personally fly analogue and don't mind the quality at all because I can go back and watch the footage from my other camera later.
Great episode guys, From this and other reviews I've seen its not realy a big leap or even a viable option for racing ect , sure it would be good for Ap work but the range and quality seems to be better on a phantom 4 so the technology coming 12 months and I'm sure it will be much better I read they are adding another mode in between the hq and the Hp modes that might help
Great review I am a newbie and have been looking at the whole package with the Falcor quad Still a bit undecided but it looks like it is a good one to get up and racing around right out of the box
I agree with Chad 100%, I would love to put this on my 450 quad for cruising and getting some nice AP but it's another couple of revisions away from being mini quad acceptable...I wouldn't even put it on a wing because the range is only 1500 feet I believe?
I want to see a setup with 6+ pilots in a race situation where more people randomly plug in. It's the biggest thing holding the sport back, we need reliable 6+ pilots in the air.
Honest video. Would like to see more "weak" points testing. What's the reason for camera disconnection... What's it going to do while flying with multiple high powered 600mW analog VTX's at a distance.. etc.
Nice video and comparison! The Connex ground station is a tad big, I'm sure an analogue system would benefit from a truck mounted Yagi antenna as well.
Nice job Christian! My main issue with the Connex is that you need a tripod for the receiver, and I just love the portability of FatSharks. Say, I challenge RotorRiot to have a Tiny Whoop competition? What do you say?
When you do the in depth review, be sure to include the weight difference and battery drain vs analogue - I'm curious to know if the quad would be giving up flight time, and I'd so how much.
10:18 - 10:22 If you look carefully when his troubles showed up, his power voltage was critical, i think he just lost signal because he did not check out his LIPO voltage, no more juice like it happened to Chad at 17:35...
I would love more Connex ProSight testing, get steele and charpu trying it as well! Would be nice to try different headsets, maybe specially the FatShark HD V2 or Dominator V3 because (I think) they are the most widely used FPV headsets out there :D
You guys gotta try wifibroadcast with an Oculus Rift. It does add 150ms or so latency but you get full flexibility, you can change resolution, fps, aspect ratio, FOV of the goggles freely, for example you can simulate the fatshark's fov but with high resultion.
Really good episode. Great testing and reviewing. This is the first commentary on the Connex that I feel like accurately captured its pro's and con's.
They could avoid static by not using auto, rest was indeed quite spot on.
AMEN :)
agreed, really nice walk through with some interesting thoughts.
Funny The last time I was researching FPV stuff it was Black Box. Now I find the best review yet I've seen about the Connex and Josh, the BB king, is the first review I see ;)
Great review guys mine is on the way, my brain lags way more than the 30FPS :)
Another who agrees completely, great stuff.
Guys this is the best video you have done this far. So much real world situations and tests, loved it. Also Chad awesome job asking the right questions and describing exactly what we have all been wondering. Thanks for testing and your honest feedback. Keep up the awesome work Rotor Riot. Happy flying
yes more tests, lots more tests, range tests, how multiple pilots, etc.
This video is a great example of why Rotor Riot is my favorite channel. Some channels are all bench tests. Some are all FPV videos. Some are all guys clowning around. But Rotor Riot has a great mix of fun, bench testing, screwing around, field testing (which few channels do!), honest reviews, and, obviously, the best FPV videos ever made. It doesn't hurt that everyone's such a natural behind the camera and behind the goggles. Great stuff guys and keep 'em coming!
Dear Rotor Riot Crew,
Just wanted to say thank you for being super awesome dudes and promoting quad racing with a happy and enthusiastic state of mind. I went to Drone Nationals 2016, the second day, and had so much fun. By now I have been flying for about a year and am currently comfortable to start using my FPV goggles. (Up to now I've flown LOS) I met Chad and had him sign my goggles, which was awesome. After watching you guys freestyle and numerous races, you guys inspired me to go home and push my self to fly better. Today I attempted my first flip and roll and was very successful, I didn't crash once! Thank you for making my summer awesome, that's saying a lot considering I just got back from 3 weeks in Europe and my birthday was a week ago!
You guys rock, Owen
P.S. Chad, not sure if you remember me, I asked you to sign my goggles inside the "aquarium", my Dad also explained how much he loved Australia when he was there. Thanks again for being super cool, your kinda my idol.
Hey mate, I remember you. Glad you had a great time :)
Best rotorriot episode ever...no Steele! Tommy and Chad are natural presenters and not boring at all to watch. Please keep it that way!
Dear Rotor Riot crew, we don't know how to say thanks to you. You're awesome, incredible, brilliant! Thank you so much for inspiring us!
I like chad stepped in with info and his input he keep it as real as he could
Thanks for a straight forward, honest, no fluff look at this system. Nice job.
Guys, thanks for a great review. Many points taken, and will certainly be working on it.
Charles, cool setup on your quad, was glad to see ProSight still working like that with one antenna down.
why dont you get team black sheep to design an antenna like the triumph but tuned for 5ghz
Aw some to see vendors engaging. If you guys let the RR guys test these out in a race situation with 6-8 pilots it might help drive home a huge benefit versus the surrender analog setups, which are plain horrible at races. Solid video could change the racing game. It would be great to see a demo to illustrate that.
I heard IBcrazy mention in a podcast he's working on it ATM. BTW IBcrazy designed the triumph antenna and TBS pays royalties for each unit sold.
Please do more testing - all the things Chad said plus more. I watched a ton of reviews of the prosight but this was the first one that actually was of great help. Looking forward to the next episode, keep up the good work guys!
The content is so professional and great the channel deserves at least 10 times its current subscriber count
Guys. The added "lag" you feel is not due to the lower frame rate. It's just extra latency due to HD processing of 720p at full bitrate.
You're not flying 60 frames per second analog either. Yes, NTSC transmits 60 interlaced fields per second, but you're using CCD cameras that capture whole frames at only 30fps and LCD displays which display at 30 frames per second progressive (also whole frame at once). There's just less latency between the time the analog frame is captured, and when it's displayed.
If you tried to fly with something like an analog Effio V camera, it would feel very much like Prosight in HP mode. Just extra lag.
Otherwise your observations pretty much match my own. HQ looks great, but the added latency is too much for aggressive flying (freestyle, proximity and racing). HP mode has very little latency, but the light handling is dreadful.
BTW, you should not have seen *any* breakups in the signal with clear LoS, especially at short range. That was probably due to the broken antenna (or antennas). I had a similar experience.
Great review guys!! Can't believe you guys were in my backyard for this episode. I live less than a mile from here. This technology- the future? Dynamic range seems AMAZING! For sure MORE real world testing would be greatly appreciated!
We would love to watch more on the Connex Prosight . Great video , I can see this being the future of FPV. Thank you for this !
I would like to see more videos like this about new products. You guys are always the first to see and touch new products and its nice to see a review from top pilots rather than Billy Bob whos been flying for 3 months trying to tell you if a product is good or not.
All the scientific testing, the painstaking integration and
the serious brain power involved in moving our video from analog to digital is
greatly appreciated. Once fully vetted,
digital video will open up a whole world of better possibilities for FPV and
external viewers. What was done here is
so much more close to where the rubber meets the road, this is exactly what we
need to see and how it works in the environments we fly and with the people we
fly with. Thanks Rotor Riot!
The noise looks much better now in HD.
You have 5 rubber ducky antennas there. If you point all of them up then diversity is doing absolutely nothing. How about if you cover all 3 axis and 2x 45deg? would this eliminate freezing issue? The range at which freezing happens is really putting off, especially when you consider the price-tag of Connex system...
Get yourself some crossfires and a pair of orqas
13:56 Good one lol!
Cool episode I'm been curious about it glad you guys finally got around to giving it a shot it.
chad looked pretty pissed off at that joke lol
I know right lol Well maybe in ever episode(well maybe not every episode) somebody tends to give him shit about him flying mode 1 it's like the old saying ''The nail that sticks out is the one that gets hammered''
Yes, more pro sight reviews! You guys will help bring attention to the product, it's pros and cons, thus maybe inspiring a better Gen 2 :)
Thanks guys... Been waiting for this. I'd definitely like to see more extensive testing with your points of view see if it gets better with experience.
Loved the video!! Great insight on how you guys test new tech coming into the hobby. Great feedback without bashing the crap out of it like some people would. Would love to see more of that!
It's 2am here and just before sleeping, a rotor riot video is uploaded! Way to ruin my sleep, RR :'(
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Yes, more reviews on the Connex guys!
great video guys! your episodes are getting better every week.
im also flying with prosight and got the same breakup as you did and still trying to figure out what causes it.
was not an analog signal or the distance, as i was flying alone and the quad was basically beside me.
it does not happen that much if you fly with fixed frequency.
the 30fps feel is not "natural" at first but you will get used to it ... and the better picture kills it all.
Def want to see some distance testing and real world mix of racing and freestyle with this setup. Thanks for doing this!
thank you for the test.. and yes please more test... it looks like the technology is close but just not quite there yet but I am very excited to see it in the works.
Yess!! Please continue to test this. I would love to see a distance test compared to a 600mw analog vtx.......Oh and great video as always. I love rotor riot mondays!!
Thank you all so very much for your honesty =) Shows real character, bravo. Fly shiny and chrome into Valhalla! o7
You guys should look into flying the goat canyon trestle in the deserts east of San Diego. It's abandoned, it's HUGE (largest curved trestle in the world), and it's secluded. Heck of a hike to get in there, but would make an EPIC day of flying. There's also a bunch of railroad tunnels to shoot - some up to 150 feet and curved. Keep up the great episodes!
Very nice guys... The "ding" at 8:09 made me check my phone... Lol!
Good exposure. Thanks guys.
Nice meeting you guys at the drone national yesterday. You guys rock.
Another great Vid!!! Can we get 2 a week....I'm always wanting more Rotor Riot!!!! Thanks Guys!
Hope this is gonna be the future of fpv, great review!
Yes, more tests with pro sight please!
Real world testing of technical limits of the hardware you guys use, I think, is a great idea. It would allow others to know what to expect when getting into the field.
one of the best episodes yet, very informative great real world review, guess its safe to say its just not there yet for racing or freestyling, but im sure it will find its place in the market. Great job guys!
Yes please! More vids like these.
Great video. Just finished my 180, 160, and 400 quad.
Perfect video and review that´s what I was hoping to see, thank you guys
That is sick mate. That rite there is the future of fpv quality 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Definitely enjoyed watching! I'd love to see you guys run the Connex a bit more. Feedback from you lot could do a deal of good.
im sure its dull to film for you guys but the reviews every now and then are great. even the talk comparing your setup to this gives in site to both systems.
Definitely need to see more testing!
Nice real world testing!! I would love to see you guys really put this product to the test!! Do some actual racing with analog in the mix!! I'm still waiting for people to say that they have completely changed over to using this product 100% of the time before I pull the trigger!
Awesome content, really well put together episode. Thank you for the time and energy you all put into making it.
Nice review guys. Came at a really good time to
I was just thinking about buying this! Thanks, love the videos!
Surprisingly good for early tech. Since there is an apparent data budget with the 720p30 vs 720i60 I would love to see a 480p60 mode where the extra data is used for image redundancy to extend range / reduce breakup.
yep a range test would be nice,great show as usual
Great test guys! I've been interested in this HD FPV gear to see what it looks like and this was a cool review, nice job! 👊👊😁
have been waiting for you guys to do a video about this!!! so cool:)
Can y'all do a beginners guide(s) to quad components i.e.
-Flight controllers (Taranis Pro, etc.)
-Software (Clean Flight)
-Board components
-FPV gear (FatShark,etc)
Just basically a component tutorial of sorts for us new kids who are getting into the sport because of your vids and the term "shredding balls"!!!
Thanks guys!
More tests please. Zero/low latency HD fpv is the future..... since the first time I flew analog I've longed for a zero latency HD fpv setup. I mean who wouldn't want 1080 details and crispness while flying zero latency am I right???
For this "sport" to grow HD fpv setups are a MUST for both pilots and spectators.
After watching your video it appears there is more work that needs to be done to get us all there.
HD is where we need to be. But if it's not there yet it's not there. Thank for your honest reviews, looking forward to more.
Nice review. I have a HD setup too and 30fps is a bit weird with fast motion.
Looking at the part where they were doing an interference test. When it blacked out, i noticed that the battery dipped to 5.5 volts then cut out.
Perfect review! Thanks guys! !
Very informative session (warts and all without the manufacturer marketing hype that you sometimes have to put up with in these type of "test" vids). Well done.
Lol this is so funny to look back on
Now that digital FPV has come so far.
I think it would be great for fixed wing. Great video! Thank you!
yes, I would like to see another video with 4 of the connex flying at the same time. Put it in 60 fps and race. And throw a couple analogs in there too. See how many you can have at one time. And I wish steele was there too, I know he was very leary of the prosight. It would be great to see what he says about it.
these guys deserve more subscribers
That was a good watch ⌚️Thanks for the knowledge.
Thanks for another informative video! I'd love to see more stress tests for the ProSight. Probably won't buy into this first gen of HD links, but I'm keeping an eye on them!
Yes test more of the system!
I'd really like to see more of the HD technology. It's very intriguing to me because I know a lot of people that won't get into it until HD equipment is cheaper. I personally fly analogue and don't mind the quality at all because I can go back and watch the footage from my other camera later.
That Blackouts on Connex, We had that during D1 in Shenzen..... most blackouts happens above water and most took a dunk into the river.....
Honest review! Thank you.
Great work guys, thanks!
Love the Technics T-Shirt Tommy haha :-)
yes to everything your said at the end.
great job with the connex review!
Hah watching the video and my son comes running up when Chad went on about Minecraft ;)
Guys thanks for the honest review. Cant vait for ver 2.0 of this system and hopefully a reduced cost as well
Great episode guys, From this and other reviews I've seen its not realy a big leap or even a viable option for racing ect , sure it would be good for Ap work but the range and quality seems to be better on a phantom 4 so the technology coming 12 months and I'm sure it will be much better I read they are adding another mode in between the hq and the Hp modes that might help
Looks interesting but I'm wondering, would the signal be improved if you swap out the straight antennae for Omnidirectional antennae ?
Great review I am a newbie and have been looking at the whole package with the Falcor quad Still a bit undecided but it looks like it is a good one to get up and racing around right out of the box
I agree with Chad 100%, I would love to put this on my 450 quad for cruising and getting some nice AP but it's another couple of revisions away from being mini quad acceptable...I wouldn't even put it on a wing because the range is only 1500 feet I believe?
Waiting for Range test and Metal obstacles test.
I want to see a setup with 6+ pilots in a race situation where more people randomly plug in. It's the biggest thing holding the sport back, we need reliable 6+ pilots in the air.
thanks for the review
Honest video. Would like to see more "weak" points testing. What's the reason for camera disconnection... What's it going to do while flying with multiple high powered 600mW analog VTX's at a distance.. etc.
Yes, more digital systems! I'd love to see HD become mainstream!
Nice video and comparison! The Connex ground station is a tad big, I'm sure an analogue system would benefit from a truck mounted Yagi antenna as well.
Nice job Christian! My main issue with the Connex is that you need a tripod for the receiver, and I just love the portability of FatSharks.
Say, I challenge RotorRiot to have a Tiny Whoop competition? What do you say?
Best review out there!
When you do the in depth review, be sure to include the weight difference and battery drain vs analogue - I'm curious to know if the quad would be giving up flight time, and I'd so how much.
this looks amazing
The high dynamic range really is something I'd appreciate
Yes, I want to see Chad push it to the limits.
10:18 - 10:22 If you look carefully when his troubles showed up, his power voltage was critical, i think he just lost signal because he did not check out his LIPO voltage, no more juice like it happened to Chad at 17:35...
Want to see range tests and fly with more analog VTX-Systems and Prosight!
I would love more Connex ProSight testing, get steele and charpu trying it as well!
Would be nice to try different headsets, maybe specially the FatShark HD V2 or Dominator V3 because (I think) they are the most widely used FPV headsets out there :D
more tests guys..keep it up!!
You guys need to make a trip to the UK and meet up with Team Green Prop :)
I would love to see more testing I am trying to decide whether to get one or not.
I'd definitely like to see some range testing with HD Connex.
this is great stuff!!! workin together!!!
You guys gotta try wifibroadcast with an Oculus Rift. It does add 150ms or so latency but you get full flexibility, you can change resolution, fps, aspect ratio, FOV of the goggles freely, for example you can simulate the fatshark's fov but with high resultion.