Tuning Joshua's Quad

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @nuggetcircuits1725
    @nuggetcircuits1725 8 лет назад +77

    Steele: Then you use quantum mechanics to triangulate your flux capacitor. However, only do it right after you write your name backwards, and turn your rate in to a nonlinear gradient descent.
    Joshua: That feels locked bro!

  • @JeromeDemers
    @JeromeDemers 8 лет назад +12

    the best comment ever @13:52 "it should be predictable.. should be the same every time you pick it up...consistent as possible" We always change so many things hardware and software instead of getting better at flying. I remember Mr. Steele saying that in this interview 2 weeks ago.

  • @UAVfutures
    @UAVfutures 8 лет назад +44

    really nice video guys. Awesome to see you helping out others

  • @bobturner3388
    @bobturner3388 8 лет назад +27

    I'm 58 yrs old and loving this hobby! I purchased the best equipment I could find right out of the gate and have never looked back! This video has given me a tremendous grasp on the tuneing area of the quad! So, My QAV has never flown better ,I'm able to not only doing tricks better but I'm now completing them quicker, which makes it so I can start adding on some of my own touches before finishing my trick!I always love watching your group get together and do what most people think is impossible! (Although, I do tend to favor Mr.Steele)I'm not one to write to people on the web(being my age I guess) I felt I needed to thank you all, for giving me the understanding I needed to use Cleanflight to its fullest as far as PID tuneing goes!HATS OFF! To you all,thank you so very much! You guys changed not only the way my quad flys but also the way I am now flying!

    • @RTegland
      @RTegland 6 лет назад

      You went out of your way to write that?

    • @Andrew-FKF
      @Andrew-FKF 6 лет назад

      @@RedBear345 I was satisfied buying the taranis x7,
      $100 for box goggles, and parts for betaflight 75 sized whoops. Probably $400. Going to 5" building my own quad cost around 250-300. the only think I kept buying was more batteries at 25$ a pop. 2018 is my first year in the hobby and I have put more into it than being satisfied. I have grown to 3" and trying those out.. trying different 5" motors and props... probably in $2000.

  • @captbuscemi
    @captbuscemi 8 лет назад +6

    Best episode so far, really good to see you guys sharing the love. Joshua is a star!

  • @Cypri666
    @Cypri666 8 лет назад +59

    I think the mustache helps when tuning bru

  • @TheReal666
    @TheReal666 8 лет назад +17

    Tuning videos are the best ever little bit helps

  • @ronnwilson2350
    @ronnwilson2350 8 лет назад +9

    Great episode, I think these kind of vids is what everyone really wants to see. I've really been messing with my tune lately and actually made up charts to write down my setting before I change anything so if I don't like where it's at I can start back with where I was before easily. Seems to be helping a lot in the field. As far as buying a shirt mine is actually coming in the mail today. Great job guys! Keep them coming!

  • @hiwayM9
    @hiwayM9 8 лет назад +11

    I don't know who gets credit for the idea of sending a few RR pilots out to fans to help tune, but I want to buy them a beverage. Brilliant, and super cool.

  • @MotleyMidwest
    @MotleyMidwest 8 лет назад +22

    5:42 "like driving a car with the tie rods broken, one of the wheels a different size and can't see out of one eye" - totally know a guy that like that!
    Good info video. Thanks.

    • @RotorRiot
      @RotorRiot  8 лет назад +8

      +IowaUsedCars I think we all do ;)

  • @danzicarelli436
    @danzicarelli436 8 лет назад

    Thanks guys!
    Steele, letting Joshua fly your rig was a stand up move. THANK YOU! Seeing the footage from Joshua flying his quad compared to yours is eye opening.
    You guys are doing something very special for the hobby. For all of us who can handle the basics set up a rig and fly fpv. We need this type of information to take it to the next level.
    I am excited to see what you have in store for us. Hopefully a Rotor Riot mini quad setup?!?! A benchmark we can all start with?

  • @SumsarTheThird
    @SumsarTheThird 8 лет назад +2

    i have a 250 racer with a naze32 board., I've never really flown that particular quad, because i couldn't get it to fly properly, even after fiddling with the pids, and tried alot, eventually giving up on the quad.
    i then stumbled upon your video, and decided to take it off the shelf, copied every setting you guys did,. never really fiddled with anything els than pids, so i fiddled arround with all the settings untill i had it just how i wanted it..
    a little bit different from your settings, but not much.
    and it flies like nothing i could've ever imagined. SO locked in, and SO responsive, and really really agile. this quad is now with me on the field almost daily.

    • @Andrew-FKF
      @Andrew-FKF 6 лет назад +1

      soooooooo. where are you today? if you got the naze to fly "locked in" what is your setup and how would you describe how it flies compared to this comment 2 years ago?

  • @NellosFPV
    @NellosFPV 8 лет назад

    Nice explanation of PIDs, Congratulations Chad Nowak and Steel Davis, and of course all staff to.

  • @Jacey2001
    @Jacey2001 8 лет назад

    you guys are heroes when it comes to this stuff... i hope you guys can take pride in helping a shit ton of people. im working on learning this type of tuning atm and most of my knowledge has come from your random videos.
    and thanks to josh.

  • @chluaid
    @chluaid 8 лет назад +1

    Perfect episode. First you explain how PIDs are such a nebulous subject (which is why there are so few reliable or consistent online learning resources for PID tuning). In almost the same breath, you explain perfectly how to tune your own quad. Thanks you guys, THIS is why I subscribe!

  • @jad9544
    @jad9544 7 лет назад

    I think it's great you all give back to the community. I've learned a ton. I am new to the hobby and have been building micros. Now I use Sims and practice so I can get fpv to the point I can fly a bigger Rig. Thanks for everything.

  • @timbell8208
    @timbell8208 8 лет назад

    I love watching you guy's fly but seeing you help other pilot's and teaching them definitely brings warm fuzzy feelings to my heart. keep up the AWESOME video's!!!!

  • @MrFlatboost
    @MrFlatboost 8 лет назад

    The amount of experience and knowledge you guys share with the world is priceless, yhanx a million Rotor Riot team!

  • @brentnorman6848
    @brentnorman6848 8 лет назад +1

    I have tried these tips and it has made a HUGE improvement on my Minion. I now have yaw control like crazy (and always wanted). I have put in a few flights today, and cant wait to start to play around with the "I" and "D" a bit more. The guys did a great job of explaining the values and what each one did. Thanks very much for making this video :-)

  • @oepinzong
    @oepinzong 8 лет назад

    This definitely is a great idea ! having the team to help a regular Joe on tuning a quad is really helpful!

  • @cknoma
    @cknoma 8 лет назад

    By far one of the best videos to date. I love how y'all reached out to an aspiring pilot to help him tune his quad. What has taken me months of reading forum posts and articles online, was summed up beautifully on this episode. Please make more videos like this one. BTW Steele looked dam nervous when Joshua was flying his quad, but it was a kind gesture none the less. I'm sure it made his day.

  • @kip383
    @kip383 8 лет назад

    you guys are awesome. I learned a lot by watching mr. Steele adjust the P IDs and the rates. I wished I lived somewhere closer than Texas.

  • @evoluke69
    @evoluke69 8 лет назад +13

    This may be your best video yet. Lots of great information!!!

  • @adyfparish
    @adyfparish 8 лет назад

    Such a wonderful feel good vid, gonna have to watch it a few more times just to get the hard info out of it without being distracted by the sheer joy of seeing Josh flying a beautifully tuned machine.

  • @ChrisHeli1978
    @ChrisHeli1978 8 лет назад

    Another awesome and insightful video.
    Love how Steele can describe stuff in a way that sounds like nonsense yet makes sense! I'm glad Chad's there to interpret for us.
    Cheers guys!

  • @dividingbyzerofpv6748
    @dividingbyzerofpv6748 8 лет назад

    thank you.... this video has done more to show the differences in changes in Cleanflight PID values than anything else I have seen in nearly a week of searching. just starting to tweek a Naze32 Versacopter.
    good work.

  • @christiankirkenes5922
    @christiankirkenes5922 8 лет назад

    Chad description of what the PID's change was awesome, I actually understood them afterwards.

  • @josephguske6961
    @josephguske6961 8 лет назад

    Most informative, and fun.
    Very nice for Mr. Steele to share his toys...though he always "makes me nervous;" like the class clown, w/ "no-to-low filters."
    Kudos to Josh...for taking the risk!

  • @PeterJvanHaren
    @PeterJvanHaren 8 лет назад

    thanks for coming down to earth guys!

  • @ChrisCanMakeStuff
    @ChrisCanMakeStuff 8 лет назад

    This. Was. Awesome. Well done Josh for flying under so much pressure too! The rates discussion was really interesting.

  • @user-wi7br4nj6p
    @user-wi7br4nj6p 7 лет назад +1

    This video has helped me more than any video I've seen about anything on fpv quads. Thank you!!

  • @clutester
    @clutester 8 лет назад

    Great video. I feel like there are so many hurdles someone has to get over to start in this hobby. Clearly explaining all of these different processes really helps someone like myself. Keep up the awesome videos.

  • @3DMOFO2020
    @3DMOFO2020 8 лет назад

    I really love episodes like this when you guys have a basic quad fpv guy like myself and such start teaching him how you would tune a quad the right way. I'm really learning a lot very insightful stuff indeed keep it up!

  • @TheCoolStuffHD
    @TheCoolStuffHD 8 лет назад

    Tuning often is very intimidating, especially if you have no clue what you're doing. Even if you go into it with little to no experience, fiddling around can/will help you learn a lot. If you change something, you can associate it with what you changed, tweak it, and see what feels best. I'd recommend always taking a photo of your presets or current tune so if you change too much and don't like it, you can always revert to your original settings. Like Chad said, don't be afraid to fiddle. Go by feel and then keep going until it's perfect. Don't settle for something sub par, settle for perfection. You're its master, make it do what you say.

  • @Captainhaha1017
    @Captainhaha1017 8 лет назад

    It's about time:) thank you guys! your awesome:)

  • @ibalex1988
    @ibalex1988 8 лет назад

    This is EXACTLY the kind of stuff i am looking for. thanks for EVERYTHING on this channel. you guys ROCK!

  • @jwrenfpv5019
    @jwrenfpv5019 8 лет назад +3

    LOVED IT!! could you please do an episode explaining on what does what when tuning?

  • @infernalbill9366
    @infernalbill9366 8 лет назад

    Great idea for a technically oriented episode. This was crammed with valuable information that a lot of people want, but telling it through Josh's story kept it interesting and entertaining. The difference between RPY Rate and RC Rate still melts my mind, though.

  • @rayrokni
    @rayrokni 7 лет назад

    Great help guys. Thank you

  • @malachihenderson166
    @malachihenderson166 8 лет назад

    Thank you guys!!! This has been the most helpful video for me. I am very new to the hobby and didn't understand PID's really but after watching this video I finally get it. I can't wait to tune my quad now.

  • @pass1985
    @pass1985 8 лет назад

    That is amazing how different the quads fly... you can really see the difference...

  • @BigWillieFPV
    @BigWillieFPV 8 лет назад

    Loved his smile great you guys helping people out including my self keep em coming guys live your work Chad's and Steele 👍👍👍👍 you get 4 thumbs up

  • @arnepetry
    @arnepetry 8 лет назад

    Thanks guys! despite two years of fiddling, I really learned something today... finally a good explanation of rc rates and tpa that I didn't understand before.

  • @smokindrones9805
    @smokindrones9805 8 лет назад

    Very nice guys! I love the trend of reaching out to the community. Just what it needs. Cheers

  • @FredoCorleone
    @FredoCorleone 6 лет назад

    What a smooth quad Steele has. The secret is to have sturdy undamaged frame with all the components locked in place firmly.

  • @-sickfast434
    @-sickfast434 4 года назад

    chad can fly man hes smooth and its awesome seeing steele on rr im new to fpv and can say this is way better then all the 2020 drama

  • @JaredEasterday
    @JaredEasterday 8 лет назад

    You guys are awesome! I learned a ton watching you tune Joshua's quad.
    If you're looking for ideas, I'd LOVE to see you all do some "How to do a power loop" or "How to do an inverted stall" type videos. Basic "Here's how we do these amazing maneuvers" episodes.
    Thanks again!!

  • @syncroG60golf
    @syncroG60golf 8 лет назад

    Excellent video. Very informative. Explaining this stuff in simplified terms is a big help to us 'noobs'. Thanks.

  • @eastcarolinadroneshelispla6635
    @eastcarolinadroneshelispla6635 8 лет назад

    Thanks so much to the rotor riot crew. I have learned so much.

  • @fsarfino
    @fsarfino 8 лет назад

    One of the best episodes yet. Keep the episodes coming

  • @liftytim
    @liftytim 8 лет назад

    Really good vid guys. I feel like you just summarised months of trial and error into one vid. Going to save lots of angst and time for people trying to get into quads!

  • @BrunoGomes666
    @BrunoGomes666 8 лет назад

    You guys are awesome! You don't even use Cleanflight now and yet, you helped another person tune their quad. I know the tuning principles are the same, but nevertheless, I think this video really shows that you guys are great ambassadors for this hobby! That's why you are great and that's why this community needs you. Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing your wisdom with us! ^^

  • @Lag80kWow
    @Lag80kWow 8 лет назад +1

    Best Rotor Riot video so far !

  • @spaceman458
    @spaceman458 8 лет назад

    VERY good advice! As an amateur but getting better pilot the elusive PID tuning always frustrated me and I am actually glad to see (sort of) its much more than that. And that's why I love this hobby/sport. We are ALWAYS learning...every, single day. Thanks guys. And Steele...lose the stash man! ;)

  • @DannyCruzCreations
    @DannyCruzCreations 8 лет назад

    This was really good. Lots of gold nuggets in there. I'ma watch this more than once.

  • @dwade_fpv
    @dwade_fpv 8 лет назад +1

    Joshua, you did a great job flying. Great episode RR team!

  • @stav4073
    @stav4073 8 лет назад

    I really like the direction RotorRiot is taking , i think people are more interested in reviews.comments and tips along with the cocky/funny attitudes of Chad and Steele and how they always seem make fun of each other all bundled up into an episode.Great job guys, and cheers to Mr.Steele for letting someone else fly his quad i know it wasn't an easy thing as most people are very protective of their setups and other people flying them!
    Keep it up guys

    • @samiyam8344
      @samiyam8344 8 лет назад

      +JustStav I totally disagree about the "reviews, comments and tips". I mean, they're nice to have like every 3rd video, but there is no shortage of those type of videos out there. Rotor Riot stands out as "the fun show" that this community is missing. They originally described it as "Top Gear with quads" and Top Gear wouldn't be what it was without a lot of cocking about and throwing cars into the ocean.

    • @stav4073
      @stav4073 8 лет назад

      +Sam Iyam Yes i totally agree with you what i meant is i would like to see more of this being incorporated and not less of whats already been done :) maybe every couple of episodes as you mentioned above

  • @ardeneques
    @ardeneques 8 лет назад

    Best video yet, and the others are amazing!!! This is exactly what i wanted to see, tuning is my least favorite part and there aren't a lot of videos covering the whole thing like this, not just PID's. Thanks guys!

  • @Frogs77
    @Frogs77 8 лет назад

    this was the best video I have ever watched. love every video but I got so much outta this. especially since I have been getting fustrated about my flying and "tune" your hitting everything I have been asking myself over the last couple weeks. thank you for being my inspiration.

  • @CradyLab
    @CradyLab 8 лет назад +1

    Nicely done! Easily the best video I've seen on rates and practical PID tuning.

  • @FPVCustomsDE
    @FPVCustomsDE 8 лет назад +5

    Awesome episode! That helps a lot. If you have the time; "tuning vom scratch" would be awesome. Starting with PIDs at "0" and increase P till it's oscillating. Then go over to D and I.
    I still use Chads PIDs (a bit tweaked) for my Alien since I'm running a pretty similar Setup as he does. It's my best flying quad and there is no chance that I got the same result on my own.
    The hardest to tune for me is Yaw since the effect of different PIDs is so difficult to notice on this axis.
    Still trying to tune my QAV180. It's a bit***! This thing wants so much D - that couldn't be right -.-

  • @BisMaxx
    @BisMaxx 8 лет назад

    Really cool of you guys to show us this.

  • @daveswildernessadventures7122
    @daveswildernessadventures7122 8 лет назад

    thank you for posting this video!! I'm new to fpv...and I'm terrified of tuning my quad . hopefully in time I'm able to fly my quad as graceful as you guys! you guys are the masters of fpv I'm my eyes! great job!!

  • @dudeskinus
    @dudeskinus 8 лет назад

    love these episodes guys. never stop. haha.
    I like the idea of how you are touching on the same subjects from a different perspective than the rest of the Internet. hope you can work your way through most things people struggle with. enjoy every min of it guys!

  • @ficusnipe
    @ficusnipe 8 лет назад

    I loved the expo explanation! Thanks for going in more detail about FC expo vs radio expo.

  • @4xprops457
    @4xprops457 8 лет назад

    All I can say is thank you! You guys rock!

  • @aerialphotographydrone2982
    @aerialphotographydrone2982 8 лет назад

    I'm glad I watched this. Thanks for keeping the language clean. I've done a lot of experimenting, and though I'm using a Openpilot, the concepts are applicable. It would be nice to see you take an EBAY special ZMR250 running cc3d on 3S (one of the least expensive quads available) and after setting it up the best you could - to race eachother with them. Each member racing the exact same cheap quad specs, but with your own software settings/pids etc. That could be entertaining and informational at the same time.

  • @Huascar82
    @Huascar82 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the advice and thanks for the numbers. I just went from stock numbers and dropping 50 feet on a roll to dropping maybe a foot or 2. Now I have a slightly better understanding of what all those numbers mean.

  • @noladroneworxllc3115
    @noladroneworxllc3115 8 лет назад

    Another great video guys. Thanks. Liked they way you associated a maneuver and the quads reaction with the "tuning" that adjusts it. More please.

  • @droneartists6137
    @droneartists6137 6 лет назад

    Maybe the BEST video ´for me´ u guys have ever done!!! I learned a lot about my personal laziness of trying to get something more locked and consistent. Now I know what to look for to get well simply said "better" at flying!

  • @stephenwilley
    @stephenwilley 8 лет назад

    Another great video. It took me a good while to figure out that rates/expo were as important as PIDs to the feel. Loving the theme across your videos of community helping each other out.

  • @SKIDOOSH
    @SKIDOOSH 8 лет назад

    Guys that was awesome...great tips!! Thanks...and very cool to help a guy out!!

  • @DJDevine
    @DJDevine 6 лет назад

    This was a long time ago in the quickly evolving world of Fpv... Great job and fun

  • @krtf4ucorsair
    @krtf4ucorsair 8 лет назад

    This was really informative. I'd like to see this kind of format a few more times so we can see more situations.

  • @kitesurfjerry
    @kitesurfjerry 8 лет назад

    Finally a really really good episode. Thank you and blue skies!!

  • @donniewroberts123
    @donniewroberts123 7 лет назад

    AWESOME VIDEO, LEARNING TO TUNE IS JOURNEY ALL IT'S OWN !!!! ONE DAY i HOPE TO GET MINE LOCKED IN. STILL LOOKING, STILL LEARNING !!!!

  • @rebelkline3858
    @rebelkline3858 7 лет назад

    Going to have to watch and rewatch until it all makes sense.

  • @kozzieh6183
    @kozzieh6183 8 лет назад

    this was awesome.. while I love watching the pros fly - at times it can become a bit too much .. this approach helps us mere mortals...great work

  • @mattklein623
    @mattklein623 8 лет назад +1

    Nice - great to see this walk through and would love to see more. Some great descriptions of each field

  • @glenby2u
    @glenby2u 8 лет назад

    I must say that the video is probably the best description / help I have seen.
    Everyone is about pids and descriptions of what each setting does is rare.
    taking some of what you put forward in here has made a massive difference to how my quad flies.
    keep up the great work.
    and yes, next time get a mode 1 pilot - lol. or maybe try a tri. :)

  • @kickinitoutdoors5782
    @kickinitoutdoors5782 7 лет назад

    Thank you all, Steele I am perfectly align with what you are saying flying is all about feeling the way you want the quad to react to your input on the controller, I notice that I am more aggressive with the movements on my sticks so I cannot use a lot of you all's set ups, Love the vid guys thank you got a lot from it, peace!

  • @CuttinEJ
    @CuttinEJ 8 лет назад

    I think I just learned something very important. This video gave me an idea of what a good starting point might be. Thanks, Guys!

  • @timmyklus
    @timmyklus 8 лет назад

    Thanks guys! Working on getting my KWAD dialed and this has helped out a ton!

  • @AdamDemas
    @AdamDemas 8 лет назад

    WOAH!!! This episode got me to blow the dust off my 250 quad and mess with it a bit. It's been too long. Thanks for the inspiration and help! I'll go fly tomorrow with my laptop nearby for a test and tune day!

  • @michaelpetale6872
    @michaelpetale6872 7 лет назад

    Great vid guys I love that you guys that are the best in the world can spend time with others at a lower level! Awesome !

  • @mArV1nrlz
    @mArV1nrlz 8 лет назад

    This has been the best episode yet.
    Love nerdy stuff

  • @sayubu
    @sayubu 8 лет назад

    Finally some good explanation of tuning in plain English, thanks gentlemen...

  • @drwtrex
    @drwtrex 7 лет назад

    thanks guys to me this video does not get old i have watched it lots and will again ....

  • @chrissieracki2959
    @chrissieracki2959 8 лет назад

    lots of good info. I'll have to watch this a few times to get all of the good pointers! Thanks for a great vid

  • @lowrevsrc
    @lowrevsrc 8 лет назад

    Brilliant. Thankyou rotor riot team.

  • @Afiso
    @Afiso 7 лет назад

    Awesome. I learned a lot today. Yesterday was my first flight and i think the next time the quad is going to act faster with these pid tuning lesson

  • @David-x6e7n
    @David-x6e7n 8 лет назад

    Didn't know any of that really . This video will be watched loads . Thanks

  • @tacticsespionagegaming2827
    @tacticsespionagegaming2827 5 лет назад

    Seriously best vid I've seen yet to help differentiate my own tunes to what is available and why others have there's set where they do!

  • @northminibikes
    @northminibikes 8 лет назад +1

    This is a great video! Real talk in a real situation.

  • @kevingray707
    @kevingray707 8 лет назад

    What a great video. So nice to see some of the logic that is going into tuning. Thanks RR!!!!!

  • @AV8R_1
    @AV8R_1 7 лет назад

    Lots of insight in this video! I've actually had issues with rates and expo. I fly in velocidrone (Sim) and it simulates betaflight to a certain degree, and on it I have high rc rates and low expo, and the quad moves exactly how I want. I can rip fast and accurate, But my Real Quad had higher expo and lower RC rate and I have a hard time flying it. I really want my real quad to fly like my settings in velocidrone. Lucky kid to have all you guys help him lock it in!!

  • @ziggyzbeak
    @ziggyzbeak 7 лет назад

    Locked in I wish Steele would help tune my quad but after this video he has. CHEERS

  • @BlackBirdFPV
    @BlackBirdFPV 8 лет назад

    Thank you for this video guys!

  • @viljamitabell8707
    @viljamitabell8707 8 лет назад

    Good job guys! Thank you 😄

  • @RileyFM
    @RileyFM 8 лет назад

    Thanks! This helped with my Tricopter so much, it's still not perfect but it's a work in project!