Yesterworld: 5 Movies with Lost & Destroyed Scenes That May Never Be Seen Again
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Exploring and investigating 5 movies with scenes and footage believed to be destroyed or lost, that will most likely never be seen again.
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Friendly reminder that the "Star Wars Holiday Special" survives in its horrific entirety, despite its own creator's repeated attempts to eliminate it.
Yet the shining hospital scene exists and hasn’t been shown.
If it comes out I swear I’ll be happy again
i have a copy....so strange
@@brodieroomojo On VHS or DVD?
If it had been lost think about how sought after it would be today. Film historians would call it a lost treasure.
@@presto709 Well, the fact that George made it forbidden fruit has already had an affect...
You forgot to include Erich Von Stroheim's GREED from 1924 which was originally 8 hours long and was reduced to 2 and a half hours. If there was ever a single film with the most missing footage, it is definitely this one.
That's my choice of a restoration.
As someone who is really into lost media, this really caught my attention. Finding out that there are deleted scenes of "The Wizard of Oz" is very shocking to me as it's one of my all time favorite movies. Honestky, I wish there was a way for us to go back in time and prevent movie scenes from ever getting lost or destroyed. Fantastic video by the way. You now have a new subscriber.
I would love to see the deleted scenes and unused portions of The Wizard of Oz - especially the Jitterbug scene. However I do think they made the right decision in cutting it from the final film. I think it would have put "date" on the film instead of the timeless movie it has become.
I think there are some special editions of the Wizard of Oz soundtrack that include all the cut songs such as the Jitterbug and the reprises for Over the Rainbow and The Witch is Dead, which were labelled as outtakes. While the filmed footage is no longer existing, the audio is still out there so you can get an idea of what it would have been like in the film.
Buy one of the special annavsery disks they include the restoration process and some deleted clips ect
If you were "really into lost media," you should've known about Wizard of Oz -- the deleted scene info has been public since the 70's....
Why would you be surprised that there are cut scenes from ANY movie 🤨 please tell me what movies you know that has kept every single frame recorded !
The most famous movie to be lost is “London After Midnight” in 1927 starring Lon Chaney and directed by Tod Browning. The film was destroyed in the 1965 MGM vault fire. Only pictures remain and movie posters. Really sad
It was actually destroyed in the MGM Vault Fire in 1967
I saw the uncut "2001" the week it opened, then went back a couple of weeks later. Missing was extensive procedural footage of Frank Poole putting the AE-35 unit back into the Discovery before HAL sent the pod to kill him. I noticed the cuts because, in 70mm projection, the magnetic sound heads are above the gate and you can hear the "pop" ahead of the splice rather than after it, as with optical tracks, which is what alerted me. Also: There is still a scene missing from the restored "Lawrence of Arabia." It extends the scene in which General Allenby persuades Lawrence to return to the war. ALSO: Billy Wilder famously deleted scenes from "Double Indemnity," "Sunset Boulevard" and "Some Like It Hot" -- but they aren't as famous as the five you present here. Good work; this is unusually accurate for a RUclips video.
Very interesting! It's awesome that you have those memories since the footage will likely never be released. I love stuff like this. There is so much misinformation when it comes to stories and events like these, so I obsessively research to the best of my ability and try to find the most consistent accounts...to hear others like you appreciate it means a lot, thanks!
Have you done anything to document these experiences? From your technical descriptions, it sounds like you're involved with the film industry in some way.
My "2001" note is from memory. The "Lawrence" information is from an interview I did with the guys who restored it. Yes, I was a film critic for 20 years after working in PR and distribution. Plus I love movies and kept my ears open.
In its initial roadshow engagements at Cinerama theatres, MGM (per Kubrick) sent precise orders to projectionists for where to make the cuts and then to return the deleted footage to the studio. When new prints were struck, the appropriate reels were shipped to these same theatres and swapped with the spliced versions. (I was told this by my MGM field rep.) The existence of an uncut 70mm print is possible but unlikely given Kubrick's enforcement power. (For instance, he gave Douglas Trumbull grief when MGM released "Brainstorm" in 1983 and wanted to include "2001" in his presskit bio.)
Nataloff--The one glaring error in "Lawrence of Arabia" shows Lawrence dining with his Arab friends and eating with his LEFT hand--a decided no-no among Muslims.
Here's one you may not know: "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" had several minutes cut from it. They were mostly reaction shots from people. I know. I was in some of them. As a school teacher on summer break in Mobile, Alabama, I, along with some of my colleagues, was recruited as an extra. We hung out in one of the two former blimp hangers that Spielberg had rented and turned into the landing place. We reacted to some colored lights. Upon its premiere, I was proud to see a few frames of myself on screen. But Spielberg re-cut the film (for pacing, I guess) and SHAZAM! my moment of glory was gone! That's Hollywood for ya'!
grommy1234 that’s such a cool story!!!
@Gary Allen That was the point though.
Every movie has additional footage like that that ends up not getting used.
There were other cut scenes of Richard Dreyfus trying to find Cornbread Road before his first encounter. He stops and asks a crowd of people whose directions only confuse him. You can see them on RUclips.
I think Spielberg had been in a rush to get a print of the film ready for either a festival showing or its actual release, similar to how Coppola had been under pressure to get Apocalypse Now ready in time for Cannes, but the "Redux" version was something closer to his original intentions.
Many things Spielberg considered extraneous were removed for the "special edition" reissue, but replaced with great additions like those scenes inside the mothership.
Isn't a movie, but there are entire serials of the original Doctor Who that are missing due to the BBC destroying them.
dan coster many episodes were thought lost but have since been recovered. There are still some lost but I think there is hope they may still show up as they have managed to recover a fair amount that was considered completely gone.
dan coster yeah that makes me really sad but there was a lot that was recovered. If I remember correctly there were whole barrels of reels recovered in Egypt.
dan coster we are very lucky to have the audios to every single missing episode. It is so heartbreaking how many episodes have just completely vanished even though we have recovered so many. There is a whole season of the second doctor that is completely missing and it is so tragic
Eglantine T. we're did you hear that?
the beeb junked a lot of classic sci-fi shows from the 50's, 60's and 70's not just Doctor Who.
for me, i'd like to see the complete 'wizard of oz.'
@ryan barker I agree...
Same here!
Ditto, if only for the "cigger bug" scene; when I was very young I took ballet and we once rehearsed a small stage version of Wizard of Oz where my class danced in the role of the bugs. I always assumed my teacher just made that scene up for us 5 year olds - I had no idea until now it was an actual thing!
i think it's 'jitterbug,' a dance popular at that time. it's my understanding that the studio didn't want the scene in the movie because they felt as if it would date it, when they wanted it to remain 'timeless.'
ryan barker me too
I want to see the original full six-hour cut of Joseph L. Mankiewicz's "Cleopatra" (1963). Starring Elizabeth Taylor. This is one that really should be on this list. They removed and later destroyed, one third of the most expensive film ever made at the time.
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If it was destroyed, then how could you see the original cut? Are there prints than contain the full cut?
@@hotwax9376 no print has ever been found. And they tried to find it. For the blu ray release of 2012 they indicated that there were some private collectors that may have had a print but were not interested in making it public . However they were very vague and did not confirm anything. The only chance is when these people pass if their heirs want to sell the print to Fox perhaps then we’ll get the chance. However don’t expect high quality, it’ll probably be some reels of raw footage shot in BW before post production.
I have a VHS copy of The Wizard of Oz with some of the "Jitterbug" scene. To clarify, not the scene itself, but from another angle seemingly not recorded for the movie. It's the one shown in this video.
Shortly after I finished this video, as luck (or un-luck) would have it, a comment led me to even more footage from the composer's rehearsal footage that I had yet to see (and would have loved to implemented into this video). Evidently, as you stated, it was included in that VHS. Which burns even more, because while I have that copy of Wizard of Oz on VHS, I had/have no means to play them. Guess it's time to go thrift shopping ;)
I’ve seen that too! It was a special feature on my dvd but it had no audio
The jitterbug scene was never shot, what is available is just behind the scenes footage of the rehearsal for said scene.
@@thomashumphrey4953 "The Jitterbug" was, in fact, was shot and edited and was included in the first versions of the film. It was cut after several audience previews. Its original, complete soundtrack has survived, but none of the visuals. What does exist are behind-the-scenes views taken on 16mm amateur film, which was discovered and released to the public in the 1980s.
@@hebneh i thought i have heard, that the uncut version of the Wizard of Oz, as in, fully uncut, was only shown once to preview audiences, that there were 3 test screenings, the final test screening, has the version of the Wizard of Oz that has been in existence ever since.
I actually saw that footage in The Shining -- I don't think it was on the first day -- as I recall, I saw it on a preview screening. All I can really remember is the fact that there was a scene with Wendy in the hospital bed. I don't really remember anything else about it -- but I do think that the shot of Jack frozen was also included, so I have a feeling that the dialogue wouldn't have indicated that Jack hadn't been found.
Most movies have preview screenings. I was at film school at the time so we tended to get tickets to preview screenings. I think I also saw a preview screening of Empire Strikes Back.
Nowadays I'm a member of the Writers Guild so when it's awards season I not only get invited to screenings they also send me screening copies -- but only of movies that are up for the Writers Guild awards -- so no foreign films and no films written by writers who aren't in the guild (never got a screener of The King's Speech, for instance).
But awards season is definitely a great time to see movies if you belong to one of the guilds.
Very cool, that's an incredible memory to have! Unfortunately, there are only 4 movies I have seen of footage still unreleased: Observe and Report, A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010), Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, and Funny People...probably for good reason.
We see the frozen Jack, but there's no indication anyone else does. I saw the movie on the first day with the excised scene. It injected daylight and reality into the end and brought back the hotel manager. It felt too much like an explanation without explaining anything, then the tracking shot to the photo seemed added on. The movie does work better without it.
prodprod You... saw that missing scene from the Shining? That's one of the most sought after scenes in the history of cinema and YOU, a youtube commenter, SAW IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES?!?!
Wait, you're not lying are you?
prodprod i actually was a sound editor at the King Kong 2005 set where Peter Jackson actually had the audio of the original Spider Pit and as I took a listen there is static then screaming then sounds what i could described as one of the monsters killing someone with a tearing sound 😓 and i hear crunches and other screaming untill i hear those insects i think killing them as they said "No No Nooo!" with a gutting sound 😓
Here's an example I found online: The 1925 silent film Phantom of the Opera, starring Lon Chaney.
The original ending, directed by Rupert Julian, was supposed to follow very closely to the ending of the original book, where Erik makes Christine choose between marrying him and letting Raoul and the Persian live, or to refuse and watch them die. Christine agrees to marry him, saving the trapped men from their fate. Christine and the Phantom share a moment together as she kisses him on the forehead, which he returns in favor as they mingle in tears. Erik releases Christine from her promise as he lets her marry Raoul. Moments later, he lets out the final note on his organ as he slumps over and dies a broken heart in Daroga's hands, with the mob watching sympathetically over his corpse. The ending was previewed in January 25th, 1925 for the first and last time as audiences reportedly booed at the ending because it made the monster look less fearsome and more sympathetic. As a result, it was replaced with a more action-packed sequence of Erik trying to escape with Christine on a horse carriage and then trying to outrun an angry mob which then catch up to him and throw him in the Seine River, where he drowns to death. The original ending has been either lost in archival vaults, or was destroyed to save budgets on new film reel.
Well that def sucks. I would've loved to see that ending in the remake they did. Would've been a lot more satisfying than allowing the Phantom to escape & still be around by the time Christine had died.
Bummer. I always thought that was some of Lon Chaney’s best work!
Colin C. I saw the photo reconstruction of that original ending. Now I see what was meant for the ending of the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical, with the exception of Erik’s death.
“You alone could make my song take flight!
It’s over now. The Music of the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!”
©️1925, 1986 Universal Studios/The Really Useful Group
I'd love to see the original "The Phantom of the Opera" (1925), the one that had the ending from the book. Lon Chaney's performance as Erik, the Phantom, is legendary as it is, but if we still had the footage of him acting out those final scenes, his Erik would be on a pedestal all his own.
This is out on DVD and Blu-ray
I didn't know the original ending was filmed!! That would have been amazing.
@@happyfacefries Yeah, they filmed the book ending, with Erik dying after Christine kisses him. But test audiences felt Erik deserved a harsher demise, so they filmed the silly "carriage chase" sequence we have today.
I would love to see it with the original ending and the missing graveyard scene were Erik is throwing skulls at Raoul along with all the technicolor pieces
The comment directly below yours actually is a thread about this exact subject where the OP is claiming to have found the original cut of the 1925 POTO, coincidentally enough..
I'd like to see an uncut version of Disney's The Black Cauldron.
I had a disc with some of the cut bits once. I don't think it really would have added much that it really needed.
I'd like to see the 1925 version of THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA in it's complete entirety before it was cut down for official release, including the original ending. Despite we have the best version of the film, it would still be a nice bonus to see nonetheless.
I'd pay real money to see Welles' cut of Magnificent Ambersons. Strange that the granddaddy of all mutilated masterpieces, "Greed" wasn't mentioned. Oh, and I'd love to see the crazy censored ending from "Freaks".
Probably not on par with these films for anyone else ...but Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey had a HUGE chunk of the ending altered. The original ending featured the three fears from hell manifesting in the real world in giant form and chasing Bill and Ted to the battle of the bands. Rumor is that footage is probably lost to time now ...though some images still exist on the internet.
Now That I would love to see. Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey is a very fun and underrated movie.
If that doesnt make it to the 3rd film, I'll be very disappointed.
The original Wicker Man was mercilessly butchered. Among other things that were lost was a lengthy scene where Christopher Lee described all the different apples on SummerIsle. All the cut footage was literally used as filler in a highway they were putting in outside of the film studio so it's lost forever. Luckily, Roger Corman had an early cut of the film so some of the footage, in degraded quality, was recovered, however, the bulk of the cut material is now highway fodder.
I'ld love to see a complete original version of Metropolis
I thought it was complete?
Soundmaster2013 Think there's still about 7 minutes missing
A couple of years ago 45 minutes was missing so not complaining.
For a film that old it's fortunate that it even exists. Many films from that period are completely lost.
Back in 2001 we only had like a 90 minute version of the movie. I think we're not doing too bad with Metropolis as it is.
I would have put Liz Taylor's Cleopatra on this list. Reportedly, there's at least a full movie's worth of cut footage that was excised from the final film (as the original film was intended to be two movies, but the studio wanted it out the door as soon as possible to capitalize on the publicity surrounding the Liz Taylor/Richard Burton romance.)
theproplady ...I'm glad I scrolled down and saw your comment on Cleopatra before I basically wrote the same comment. Yes, the missing six-or so-hour Caesar & Cleopatra and Antony & Cleopatra would be the ultimate restoration.
Yes, I heard that Fox was afraid Liz & Dick would have broken up by the time the film(s) were released, especially since in Caesar & Cleopatra, Dick was featured very little in it. I think in the book Box Office Hits from Billboard (published around 1989), Joseph Mankiewicz was trying to locate that footage or was even in possession of it. He died in 1993, so not sure if he ever found it or had it.
Plus, Fox was on the edge of bankruptcy anyway from the long, expensive shoot of Cleopatra. Even though they knew it would take a miracle for the film to turn a profit (and it would not until they sold the television rights), Fox had to do something, ANYTHING, to get it into theaters & them back in the black (luckily, The Sound Of Music would manage that).
The same thing can be said for the movie "Freaks" from 1932, directed by Tod Browning.
The original cut of the film, fully intact, was 90 minutes, it got butchered down to 62 minutes.
"test screenings in early 1932 were disasters, and MGM took the movie away from Browning and slashed almost a half hour from the film. The original runtime of an hour and a half had been butchered down to just 62 minutes. What was removed has become the stuff of legend; back in the early 1930s, or even the first half of the 20th Century, nobody bothered to save deleted scenes, and so no one alive today has ever seen the complete version of Freaks."
Along with that film and the films mentioned in this video, it sometimes makes me wish time travel was real.
That's easy! If there was one movie I could watch uncut it would be Tod Browning's "Freaks" from 1932!!
Oooh, I've heard stories about that one. Supposedly they infer that one of the male villains is castrated by the freaks at the end, and there is more to the transformation of the female villain.
dayvid20000 Star Wars a new hope 1970s original for me
I recall seeing Frank Capra's Lost Horizon for the first time (on television) around 1967. I was watching it again recently on TCM, and there were several missing scenes that were replaced by static photos. A total of around 15 minutes with sound and photos only. I know for sure those scenes were there in 1967. I am hopeful that the complete film will soon be found.
This is why the “Despecialized Editions “ of the original Star Wars trilogy have become so popular
GONE WITH THE WIND. Imagine how long it would be if they found all the cut footage !
There were no scenes shot and then omitted, only a handful of individual shots--mostly crowd shots and secondary characters--left on the cutting room floor.
Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman was originally very different and had an articulate Frankenstein Monster because at the end of Ghost of Frankenstein it was Ygor's brain in the body. But the test audiences (who obviously hadn't seen the whole franchise) were "confused" by The Creature speaking articulately and with an Hungarian accent so all scenes were he spoke were chopped out. Also the explanation as to why he walked with his arms out stretched were lost. The Creature had been blind at the end of Ghost of Frankenstein.
Amanda Pike and also Bela Lugosi couldn't see with the makeup
@Amanda Pike Wow -- great stories, Amanda! You sound like a film buff extraordinaire.
Boris Karloff was the creature , Bela Lugosi was dracula
nerdcontrol22 Great actors, both of them. I love those old horror movies. Look forward to Halloween when TCM plays them!
not in FMTWM, Lugosi played the monster. If you watch the movie, you can clearly see the monster speaking but no audio. The recut version also has the monster inexplicably bumping into things (he was blind as originally shot).
The original 153 minute cut of Fritz Lang's Metropolis, struck from the original domestic negative, is probably my holy grail when it comes to motion pictures. The current restoration is jumbled together from several different versions of the film and is still missing about 8 minutes of footage.
As a fan of the Wizard of Oz movie, it sucks that I may never get to see those extra 20 mins of scenes. I'm glad the audio and script for the cut songs are still around but it isn't the same. I wish time travel was real so I could see the film in its entirety. But I do have hope that someday the missing scenes might be found one day. I'm grateful that the Scarecrow dance sequence survived.
The one scene i really want to see is the ding dong the witch is dead reprise, with the the big choral procession through the emerald city ( 3:03) only a few seconds of it survive and i would literally cut off my right arm to see it...
Do none of you own the special annavsery dvds? I do and that stuff is on the dvds
life of Kelly the sound is not the actual film
Great selection, I might add that Metropolis could well fit into this category as well. Although you clearly state in the title that it was just 5 (awesome selections BTW) that fit into this category. Recently there was a massive restoration project on Metropolis that restored most of the deleted scenes, since what was deemed to be a full copy of the print was found in a private collection in Argentina.....but the film had degraded so badly that not all of it could be saved. Even with the restoration work most of the added scenes are not exactly pristine.
Thanks for your support! You know it's funny you mention that, because Metropolis was actually on my initial list of possible films to cover, but I narrowed it down to these and decided to possibly save it for a future video.
Mine as well. I even have a statue (1:4 scale ) of the Maria robot standing in my livingroom.
One thing I've always remembered about "Metropolis" was that the original intertitles in German had artistic backgrounds and probably fonts which were cut when it was released in the USA with titles in English.
Great video! Keep 'em coming! I remember seeing Gremlins 2 in theaters and the gremlins mess with the film only to be stopped by Hulk Hogan, but on the VHS version they change your TV channel and get in a gun fight with John Wayne. Messed with my mind when I was younger for sure!
Much appreciated, thanks for watching and I most certainly will! It's interesting when they change out footage like that. Similar thing happened to me with "The Goonies". I grew up watching it on TV, and when I finally got a DVD copy, I was so confused as I could have sworn I remembered scenes that weren't there...turns out they just implemented the extra scenes in the TV version!
Ah, the infamous Kraken/Octopus scene that left me equally as mind boggled. They also did this with the Who Framed Roger Rabbit televised version in the early 90's.
Warner Bro’s. actually restored the scene with Hulk Hogan back in on the DVD and Blu-ray releases.
Would love to see an entire A Star is Born. The soundtrack survived. So they used stills to fill in where film was lost. A masterpiece lost.
it’s been shown on TCM.
The 20 lost minutes from the Wizard Of Oz is said to be on the Ultimate Oz Laserdisc.
I would like to see the complete or original cuts of Land Before Time and The Black Cauldron. Okay, before you laugh, there is a longer cut of The Land Before Time, I think 10 minutes were removed from the movie, you can look on Google for information.Anyway, those would be interesting to see
I know this comment is from a year ago but there are storyboard drawings to some of those deleted scenes you're talkin about. The ones involving Land Before Time. I get what your saying tho! I would have liked to see that movie intact without the cuts.
Oh yeah, the black Cauldron basically shows the full scene of the cauldron born army coming to life. I do remember seeing that when I was a kid but they never show it anymore due to being too scary
The original version of Judy Garland's A STAR IS BORN...
The original cut was 181 minutes. The Turner Classic Movie version is 176 minutes with some still photos substituted for lost footage.
Almost all of the cut material from "A Star Is Born" was restored in some manner, even though parts of it are just still photos with the original soundtrack accompanying them.
i want to see the original uncut versions of the starwars movies without the cgi add ins
Moira Deel I used to have vhs's from the 90's that were the original before the add in's but unfortunately I don't think we have them anymore in our home.
They are not too hard to find on VHS. I managed to locate all three at thrift stores in my area fairly easily. Also, VCR's are pretty cheap as well.
Well you'll be getting your wish. They're set to be released on blu ray later this year.
oldmanglitch it's happening. I'll come back here and let you know when there is confirmation. I promise you it will be a huge item at Christmas time and Disney is banking on it. If you think this wasn't on their mind the minute they bought Lucasfilms you'd be crazy. They know how bad the fans want it to happen.
I don't buy it. I'll believe it when I see it. It'll most likely be another altered edition of the original trilogy to fit in with Disney canon such as Rebels, Rogue One, and the upcoming 'anthology' films. I just want what Lucas was unwilling to release, the original theatrical versions in high definition with NO changes, additions, or alterations whatsoever.
Man, this is depressing...
If I had a time machine, I'd get a video camera and film that missing scene from the Shining
You and me both!
I saw the Shining when it first came out with the hospital scene included. If you want my opinion, the movie works better with the scene cut.
Even if I like the ending, I like how the original manages to make the viewer ask if Ulman was behind all of it.
I'm not going to argue with you about that point. For me, it's a matter of pacing.
Fuck that. I'd break into the theater after closing and slice out the tail end of the last reel and then abscond with it.
Based on what I've read, the movie is better without it, but it'd be nice to have the option to see it.
I'm particularly fascinated with lost scenes from animated movies. Recently, a full version of the Hell scene in "All Dogs Go to Heaven" was found, and it is absolutely terrifying!
The Thief and the Cobbler is the first one that comes to mind for films I'd like to see in their intended complete form. If a directors' cut of the Golden Compass was financially possible, I'd love to see that too.
Okay, for movies with lost footage that have never been found that have never been found, I was going to say Metropolis, but the footage was restored back in 2010. But seriously, there are tons of movies that I love that have lost footage, the original 1923 Hunchback of Notre Dame with Lon Chaney for example.
Thank God the Scarecrow's dance survived. If anyone hasn't scene it go watch it because Ray Bolger is amazing.
The rumor about the Dr. Strangelove screening with the pie fight done shortly after Kubrick's death might make sense. Top level film buffs looking at a version of the film that his will ordered destroyed. Who could resist taking a peek before it was consigned to oblivion.
The controversial "line" cut referencing the JFK shooting was: "Ladies and gentlemen, our beloved president has been struck down in the prime of life by a pie!"
Actually, they changed Slim's line to reference Vegas instead of Dallas to avoid that connotation.
@@jonahfalcon1970 Also because no living person has ever had a pretty good weekend in Dallas.
I saw the entire uncut version of Little Shop of Horrors (1986) at a screening. They did restore the original ending, but they haven't restored the "The Meek Shall Inherit" sequence, among other minor edits. I wish they'd restore that scene to the film because it's pretty important to the plot.
My reaction during this whole video: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
Same here..
My great grandfather claimed to have seen The Miracle Man (the lost Lon Chaney film) and said it was one the most amazing films he had seen at that point, sadly we'll never see it
"A Night At The Opera" - the print that we get to see these days is a reissue print from the WWII era in which they removed all footage revealing that the story starts off in Italy. This is why the music abruptly stops at the end of the opening credits.
KBOB I had no idea!
I heard that Goodfellas had around 40 minutes of footage cut from it in order to avoid an NC17 rating for violence. My dark side would love to see it.
Same! henry hill talked about an extra 30 min clip in 1 of his interviews he actually has the tape but henry passed away
I believe X was still in use by the MPAA at the time & its placing on films for violence was not as often as it was for sex. That same year, Henry & June & Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! helped necessitate the change to NC-17 for films that were higher than a hard R & what was more the MPAA copyrighted NC-17 so the porno industry could not commandeer it for their product. But even now, to ensure that a movie gets played in a mainstream theater (or even advertised), directors will make the cuts to get an R & save the footage for an "unrated" version on DVD.
My dark AND light side want to see that
Yeah. Scorsese didn't film a bunch of crap. I've seen a lot of deleted scenes e.g. the stuff from Apocalypse Now and also from Stripes that are terrible. But on the dvd of The Departed you get some deleted scenes and they're all good. All of them. Scorcese cut them because the studio was demanding that he shorten the movie. They all could have been left in.
I remember watching Lost Horizon with my mom and was shocked that there was a segment that had words but no visual with a note on the screen that the footage was lost. Blew my mind that, that could happen.
Bedknobs and Broomsticks had a song sequence that was cut out, and it was the most sought after scene when remastering for the extended edition. It was never found though, and is the only scene missing from the extended edition.
Aww, that was my favorite movie when I was 7.
It’s a solo song and dance by Angela Lansbury. The song is “A Step in the Right Direction.” A few publicity shots exist, but no film of it remains. However, the song itself still ended up on the original soundtrack, no doubt confusing moviegoers at the time. I assume they needed to cut a song for length, and decided to leave Lansbury’s solo “The Age of Not Believing” over “A Step in the Right Direction.”
You can see a reconstruction of it here:
ruclips.net/video/fJNwe55rs9s/видео.html
@@angelsinger4574 It was cut after the soundtrack albums were produced. Radio City demanded that 20 minutes be cut for the premiere. Other songs were cut before the premiere and before the record albums were made, but are on the CD and the reconstructed DVD as extras.
Plus, I think not only had musicals become a kind of box-office poison by the time it was released, but Disney apparently had not gotten over the less-than-satisfying performance of The Happiest Millionaire. They kept re-editing that movie to turn into a money-spinner & probably thought shorter was better on Bedknobs, as well.
I saw The Shining on its opening night in NY so I saw the deleted scene. I am not sure whether its presence really helped the movie as I have seen the movie several times since. Still, I would like the chance to see it again to refresh my memory.
I want to see the infamous ballroom scene from Magnificent Amberson's, which is said to be one of the most innovative, technical and beautiful pieces of film ever made, on par with Kubrick having Zeiss invent special camera lenses for Barry Lyndon or the "Touch Of Evil" Welles' opening where the camera is above the town on a busy party night following the action before the bomb explodes....
Supposedly the Amberson's scene, cut by the studio for being "too confusing" for 1940s audiences with its Inception-like camera-work, was multiple-level cut-away ballrooms with swinging camera work following each floor and simultaneously tracking the dancers as they dance.....
There are so many movies with lost deleted scenes that I'd love to see: the first two Power Ranger movies, the first Ninja Turtles movie, pretty much any horror movie that had to get trimmed to get an R rating, the Eric Stoltz version of Back to the Future, the Black Friday version of Toy Story, the list goes on and on
Would have like to seen the original cut "A Star is Born" starring Judy Garland and James Mason. Cukor said the studio butchered his movie and refused to ever watch their shortened version. A lot of it has been recovered, but several scenes are presumed lost.
In his final years, Cukor set out to find the cut footage & the film that was re-released in 1983 was the most complete version at the time. I guess a few more minutes have been found since.
@@ericandy88 Some material was first reconstituted with alternate takes, before the final versions were found.
Back to the Future: Eric Stoltz edition
MarioLuigiFun I have yet to see back to the future
MarioLuigiFun Well, the Stoltz scenes aren’t exactly _lost,_ they’re still under the possession of Robert Zemeckis. He still refuses to release any footage, outside of the ones already shown in the 2010 documentary. Citing the fact that Eric Stoltz is still a working actor and that the footage would be detrimental to his career, as it’s the very footage of why he was fired in the first place.
Even with Stoltz’s approval, I doubt we’ll ever get to see all the footage shot with Stoltz. Zemeckis has always been quite stubborn and somewhat teasing over its release.
that footage exists but it has never been released.
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That's weird to say given that Robert told Stoltz that his acting was good, but he wasn't just the right choice for the role.
@Gary Allen In Logan Utah: LMC, Bluebird Restaurant, Clock Tower Plaza and Twin Pines Condos
In Back to the Future: DMC, Bluebird Motel, Clock Tower and Twin Pines Mall
LMC and DMC were both owned by John Delorean.
Most of the popular movies have been written by ONE writer since 1977.
London After Midnight, although not just missing one scene, could probably fit into this category as well. I love that Turner Classic Movies used the stills and script to kind of remake the film, but I just would've loved to see the film in its entirety.
i'd say lost movies are different than lost scenes. :)
I know that the movie is in its 'approved' entirety since it's Premiere in December 1939. However, just out of curiosity, I'd LOVE to be able to see the 40 to 45 minutes that were cut OUT of "Gone With The Wind" between it's surprise Sneak Preview in August (or so) 1939 and it's World Premiere in December 15, 1939 in Atlanta. Just to see the extra stuff. God, it would be Awesome if that footage was someday found! I know that things get thrown out, destroyed, and taken out during POST-Production all the time for various reasons (for Pacing, or because it bogs down the Story, or it's deemed unnecessary). But any extra scene or sequence or Outtake or MOMENT from the movie would be a delicious pleasure to watch. Just out of sheer curiosity!
Greed by Erich von Stroheim. People have said that the 9 hour cut of Greed was the greatest movie ever made, and it was accidentally thrown away by a person working in the film vaults. It's too bad, and there is also a great story to tell about that
Sami Gold Yes Greed is my pick too! I'd love to see the full version. Plus it's one of my favorite movie posters of all time... probably the closest / truest version of a novel ever filmed (of "McTeague").
I swear there was a quick scene right at the beginning of Avatar (2009) where there was a brief shot of Jake Sully as a little boy watching the first footage from a probe that went to Pandora. He was with his brother and their mom and dad walk in. The whole room and all of the furniture was white. The scene was narrated by a grown up Jake saying he dreamt of Pandora ever since he saw the footage. It was the the Odeon Leicester Square at release week. No one i know has seen it and i'm starting to think i'm going crazy.
Considering they've still got all the audio, I'm just waiting for the day where technology is good enough (we're almost there) and MGM is willing to invest a LOT of money, and the Jitterbug sequence can be remade with digital manipulation on the actors' faces to recreate Judy Garland and the others. It could definitely be done.
I think the Jitterbug sequence was rightfully removed. Almost nothing else in 'TWoO' played to the popular of the time, which was the Jitterbug. I say, good riddance.
I saw Gladiator with my father in the theater and when I got it on DVD I was aware that some footage had been taken out. The trip to Spain and a couple of other sequences seemed shorter. I would also bring to your attention that nearly twenty minutes of Lost Horizons was cut after a poor reception at the first screening. The director literally burned the scenes away and it really irks me because it may have really set the tone better. It was a sequence involving a riot in either Afghanistan or Pakistan and the people had to flee, thus getting them onto the plane. I think it would have added more to the contrast that they experienced in Shangri-La.
William Friedkin's Cruising with Al Pacino. 40 minutes cut and lost. James Franco even made a film that 'recreates' the lost footage called "Interior: Leather Bar".
I think I heard Friedkin describe what was cut (mostly graphic, just-on-the-cusp-of-AIDS epidemic leather bar footage) No doubt, it was scenes that would have got the film an X rating.
I must say that, while I don't know if it's been destroyed, I'm pretty sure it hasn't been released--at least no where I can find... the scene I've always wanted to watch would be the scene where they attempt to execute Sallah in Raiders of the Lost Ark, and the German soldier lets him go. All involved have said it was brilliant, but it's never been released to my knowledge.
Really enjoying your channel, only found it today. I'm in my mid 50s and have been a film/movie buff since about 7,when I saw my first movie "Mckennas Gold" at an outdoor screening in Lagos, Nigeria. The next was "Mary Poppins" in an actual cinema,in Lagos, (where we had to sit with our feet on the seats,because of rats!) - they'd showed the film out of order 2nd reel ,first etc - a mess, utterly. ..though , it made me ask and understand the process and start seeing behind the illusion. We then lived when i was 9 - 12 in Westport,Conn,USA. There we actually had Bette Davis as a close neigbour and Paul Newman&Joanne Woodward and Rock Hudson living nearer the beach at the end of our road, my parents took us to social events where these amazing Stars mingled incognito; Ms Davis would help out making xmas decorations for the xmas fair! Hooked,i started reading biographies/film history books etc and started a Film Club at school when I was 13/14 (North London, in the mid 70s) ... obviously the works of Mr Wells, we're on the list. "Ambersons" ,turned up in a variety of reels and it took us the afternoon to sort it out to be able to screen it properly. There were multiple reels,some with very little film in as well as the actual film,labeled and numbered. I think we would have got it through Samuelsons Film Services (as one of the grandsons of the founder of the company was at my school),we also had other family connections through boys at the school and it was not unusual to see a film that had yet to be released "Missouri Breaks - a very long version,that was definitely not thevone i saw later in the cinema..AND the original version of "The Shinning" you mention, BEFORE it was actually released,cut,in the cinemas in UK! ... The film I'd most like to see the complete and uncut version of again would be "Saturn3" ;having had the great pleasure of actually going on set and meeting Kirk Douglas (one of my best friend's stepfather was a fill producer and friend;the day we turned up Mr Douglas was doing his lines to camera and Farrah Fawcett had actually turned up (not in shot or costume) to help with the scene -a very professional thing to do,many actors just leave it to a stand in. We had a wonderful time at Shepperton Studios,seeing the sets and the robot. Then drove back into London with them and had dinner. I still treasure my signed photograph of Ms Fawcett (the only signature/photo I've ever asked for,I was SO starstruck -she was lovely). We later got to see a first cut of the film including the "sexy costume" and I don't know how much more - all now missing from the two cuts of the film I've seen. Looking forward to more of your fascinating videos, thank you for all your hard work. Wishing you all the best.
After watching this video, I found my old wizard of oz vhs. On the back it says ‘this limited edition is capped off by an extraordinary compilation of film clips and reconstructed musical numbers. Featured are Ray Bolger’s scarecrow dance sequence (cut from film), the dress rehearsal film and complete soundtrack of the excised ‘the jitterbug’ production number’ it also goes on saying it includes the original recording of ‘if I only had a heart’, the original trailer and rare film clip of Judy garland accepting her 1939 Oscar. It says that it runs for 113 minutes
For me, I'd want to finally see the lost footage from 1992's "Death Becomes Her" by Robert Zemeckis. There was tons of stuff cut from the film, including Tracy Ullman's entire performance as Bruce Willis' mistress Toni, as well as an original ending that's never seen the light of day. I know they had to do several reshoots to hone it down to the darker version we see today.
1931's _Dracula_ had an epilogue wherein Van Helsing talks to the theater audience, which was removed and destroyed upon re-release for violating the Hayes Code.
This may just be the Mandela Effect, but when I saw _The Empire Strikes Back_ on first release and we see the back of Vader's head, and I distinctly remember his head being basically a round bright red ball. In every version I've seen since then it has been the back of David Prowse's head in prosthetic burn makeup.
jb888888888 I’ve never heard of the red ball head before
The same actor begins the Frankenstein movie (1932) much the same way. Could have been filmed around the same time.
I love your videos. They're epic. You learn a lot from them and I love the clips you use to emphasize your point.
I can't believe the Shining was originally nominated for a Razzie. It's such a classic.
I feel like it could be possible to have one of these reappear. Metropolis, one of my favorite movies, was thought to have lost footage but they found a reel of it in a library in South America. That was a miracle in itself.
Loved spotting footage of James Rolfe's collection being used at the beginning of this video!
No way in Heaven or Hell we'll ever see it, but I'd most like to see the near-four hour long director's cut of Dune. Frank Herbert solidly endorsed THAT cut, but the studio screwed with it so much that now David Lynch claims to have forgotten the ENTIRE filming. I still think the two-hour cut is a great movie (the three hour TV "Alan Smithee" cut only made it worse), but Lynch is THE most visionary and ideosyncratic film maker of our time. To see the Dune that he REALLY made would be incredible!
"THE most visionary and [idiosyncratic] film maker of our time"? You say David Lynch, I say Stanley Kubrick, hands-down.
I would love to see a proper extended cut of Mad Max 2 (aka The Road Warrior.)
A longer and more graphic version was cut to meet Australian ratings requirements. That version was further cut for some foreign markets. America among them. (The scene where wez removes the crossbow bolt from his arm, for example.)
Additionally, there is a "lost" version that was recut for tv with added scenes, scenes shot from a different p.o.v., etc.
Or the original mad max without the American dubbing which we got in the usa.
I hope they can find a print in good condition of some of these missing film scenes. I know there have been a fair number of films over the years that were though to be lost and then miraculously showed up somewhere. I'd love to see the "Over the Rainbow" reprise in The Wizard of Oz, as well as the missing scenes from Gone With the Wind that were permanently altered in the 1954 reissue.
So studio meddling has been ruining films for decades.
Half of these were made by the director for artistic reasons, but go off I guess
Michael Smith kinda like politics
Do you even know what meddling means?
Being cynical is going out of fashion. It's all gotten so tired and lazy. And it doesn't make you clever or intellectual.
Usually their instincts are right. Committees OF EXPERTS IN THE FIELD usually do know best. The result of the committee's efforts might not be the best possible product, but it will at least be workmanlike; their intervention almost always prevents the worst possible outcome (which is important when $hundreds of millions are being staked on a film). The alternative to a committee is for an individual creator -- however inspired -- to take his best guess at what an audience will like, without being guided by feedback from that audience. In engineering this is called making a "Big Bang" delivery to the customer/market -- which is how the Edsel was rolled out.
Oh my, yes. Literally from the start
I saw Jaws in the UK on it's release around 12 times. in those days we would duck down behind our chairs and await the next showing. Now I distinctly remember the scene at the autopsy of the first victim when Hooper first arrives being a little longer. He actually lifts the girls arm out of the plastic box and explains what and why he believes it was a shark attack. However, in every copy of the movie I have ever bought, including blu-ray etc has no missing or cut scene ofthis included. The scene now has a nasty edited peice of dialogue which you can tell has been cut poorly.
does anyone else remember this?
ROBERT BOOTH yeah...I remember that too
Mark Grant hh
Robert, yes! I saw Jaws several times when it was first released in theaters and I remember that scene. Now there's an awkward, confusing jump right where it was cut.
If you’re talking about when he says, “This is what happens”, it’s in the US Bluray.
There's a few videos on YT regarding not just deleted scenes, but recreations (such as the lifeguard saving Mike):
bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3500458/heres-story-behind-nightmarish-unused-death-scene-jaws/
ruclips.net/video/Enyd5lt6p3Q/видео.html
Their is also new rare footage of the shining. All it shows is Wendy carrying Danny, but every single other copy of the scene was burned by Kubrick. It’s currently on auction, as well as jacks burgundy jacket, and is going for a few thousand dollars.
As a WC Fields fan I was stunned and delighted when Tales Of Manhattan was released on video with his originally cut and "lost" sequence restored intact... supposedly. Only problem is, the stills from the sequence previously published in movie books show Fields in completely different situations!
Oh, and Beatle fans are lucky to have all of A Hard Days Night! Walter Stenson told me that when he went to get the master reels for restoration he found that they had been chopped up to make the trailers for the film's release! He had a lot more work to do than he had expected!
Absolutely love this type of content.
Stanley Kubrick got a Razzie nomination for The Shining.
If that doesn't prove that these award shows are complete bollocks, I don't know what does.
The movie was complex for it's time. People probably didn't understand it.
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It was made the same year as All that Jazz which, in all fairness is really good, but freaking insane. And that got an Oscar nomination. Award shows are just bull.
It's a terrible movie. Completely boring. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
@@philipanderson4673 k mate
I mean I think he deserves it for what he did to Shelly Duvall
I remember a scene in "Reanimator" where Dr. Hill uses some kind of hypnotic gaze to turn Halsey against Cain's relationship with his daughter. Years later when the film was released on DVD the scene had been removed and there were several other small changes made. It's been many years since I last saw it so this scene may have been restored or included as a bonus in subsequent releases.
Brilliant channel you have here, I just stumbled upon it. After a few viewings of your content a subscription was warranted.
Did you use footage of The Angry Video Game Nerds movie collection in the start there?
I noticed that too. It is QUITE the collection after all.
As credited in the corner, the footage belongs to Cinemassacre. Perhaps I'll make the credits corner bigger in future videos, don't want any confusion.
I'm not upset about it, it was a very short clip and very fitting for the dialog. I just thought it was funny that he has such an atmosphere to his collection it make's it instantly recognizable.
The Magnificent Ambersons, no contest.
The discovery of the full film in Brazil is probably our only hope. I have a book with the full shooting script so I can imagine the scenes as I read.
Yup. I've always hoped that they'd find an original cut version in Brazil and that Criterion Collection would do a complete restoration. That movie is just magical at the beginning with the Welles voice over about how they had time for everything in those days. To think that they ditched it because some morons at a screening who were there to see a movie that was the 1942 equivalent of an Adam Sandler film complained about it is infuriating.
@@EdwardWLynn And, that was a teenage audience, to boot...as planned for the scuttling of Welles. Koerner, the new executive at RKO was determined to clear-the-deck of the money-losing 'artiste,' with his new corporate motto, "Showmanship in Place of Genius."
This is probably my favorite new and coming RUclips channel. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much!
Also Steve Baron's original cut of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990), is missing a ton of footage, that I saw in an original theatrical screening on it's opening day. Some of this has been documented and screenshots exist, but I know I saw many of these scenes, because I vividly remember seeing them BEFORE I ever used the internet or even heard about any other cuts and scenes existing. Many of the cut scenes that i've heard or seen or read about, I know i've watched long before.
Metropolis is another one with missing footage. Also the "Man Who Laughs" was missing scenes and its original soundtrack. I watched "The Man Who Laughs" a few years back on RUclips and the person had to use the "Batman 89" soundtrack since it didn't have one. It was good though. Would be curious to see the original one though as its my favourite silent film.
Happy to know, some people still watch the old silent classics.
I'd love to see the excised "Flash Gordon" dream sequence from "A Christmas Story". It's been talked about and even the actors from the sequence are in the mentioned in the credits.
I want to see the half hour of footage they had filmed with Buddy Ebsen as the Tin Man before he got sick. They reshot all the scenes with Jack Haley. Buddy can still be heard singing on two of the We're Off To See The Wizards as it was going to be too costly to go back and rerecord the vocals. The only reason they did it for If I Only Had A Heart was because they changed the dance sequence up to fit Jack Haley.
I saw the original "The Godfather". It included a visit to old Genko's hospital room, on the night of Connie's wedding. Dark, foreboding and sounding like an old Italian's room, the scene funneled my mood into dread. The authentic atmosphere of that film hit me hard. I could smell my grandmother's house when I watched it. Personally, the scene was valuable to me. Maybe they cut it cause it didn't move the plot along.
What about the sixth greatest British movie of all time, the "Citizen Kane of horror movies", The Wicker Man(original 1973)???? Amazing movie with an astonishing story. Sir Christopher Lee considered it his favorite and finest work. After the film was finished, the new studio owners wanted to to show they didnt give a shit about their predecessors film, so they edited the crap out of it and tried to bury it. When it came out, the acclaim was virtually unanimous; One of the Greatest pictures ever filmed. When Christopher Lee and the producers tried to restore the original film cuts (Lee "it would have been ten times as good"), they found the original film negatives had been LITERALLY buried, and ended up in the pylons that support the newly constructed M4 Motorway! WiTF?????
Also, if I'm not mistaken I seem to remember Han Solo shot first
If you watch the Despecialized Edition or project 4K77 you’ll see Han was the only one who shot.
Nope. You'd be mistaken. :p
I know Waterworld has a lot of extra footage that essentially makes the movie much better for it, it's just long. I think I saw a restored version they used on TV at one point and I was like wait where these shots come from? Also the extended release of dances with Wolves is inspiring to say the least. If you have never seen it please try to find the extended DVDS they released and you will find the movie a far better picture then the original already was. A lot of movies I have seen through the years when they hit TV had added footage so they could fill an hour with commercials and such. When you mix those in with the original and take out commercials it's almost always a real treat to watch.
Back to the Future, Eric Stoltz footage!
When I hear Orson Welles, I think of Unicron.
Your videos are insane man. Good job, you've earned yourself a subscriber.
Fantastic video. One thing you left out (and forgive me if someone else mentioned it in the prior comments, which I didn't have time to wade through): There is, in the trailer for 'The Magnificent Ambersons', a very brief, two-blink-long shot from what was almost certainly the original final scene, with Joseph Cotten and Agnes Moorehead. It's the only trace of the lost footage extant.
You overlooked "Lost Horizons", which has been so hacked up and lost that what you can see doesn't make much sense.
I think I saw a full audio version but with several missing visual scenes on PBS several years ago.
As far as I know, the TCM restoration pretty much completed the movie. As you state, the audio is there and they filled in the missing film parts with stills.
@@Magnetron33 Yes, the restoration used a complete soundtrack and filled in the missing footage with still photos. So it is as complete as it's possible to have made it. Since some of the found footage was 16mm instead of 35mm, the difference in the quality of the image is clearly visible, so you can see what was cut at one point. I found that especially interesting because the original version was very anti-war (as most people in the USA were in 1937, when it was made) - but the film was re-released in the early 1940s, during World War II, so of course all that pacifist dialogue was removed at that time.
When I was growing up, I realized that my video tape copy of Rudolph the Red-Nose Reindeer was different from the one my daycare had. Idk why, or which one was newer.
Have I seen a screening I never saw again? Yes. The Mummy, the one with Brendan Fraser; the version I saw in theatres had two shots I can remember being different, because I expected to see them again when it came out on video. In the shot where O'Connell throws Beni off the boat, you can hear Beni yelling "O'Connell, I'll get you!" and the verison I saw actually showed Beni as he was saying this before cutting away, as though O'Connell were looking down and watching him. The other is at the end of the movie, with Imhotep about to sacrifice Evie (basically intending to transfer his lover's soul into her body). She realizes this and looks up at him. The line "you only wanted me for my body?!" is said and he kind of smirks (like he speaks English or something -- it might be why it was cut; there's no reason he would have understood her).
I think this is very well researched and extremely entertaining. Well done.
I went to a test audience screening of "Ever After: A Cinderella Story" in Los Angeles as a teenager. In that version the Prince had a scene in which he yelled about Cinderella (Danielle) having lied to him. The Prince was very harsh, even going so far as to call Cinderella a bitch (which shocked the hell out of me at the time). There was at least one other scene with the Prince being really rude/harsh, and it made him very unlikable. Why would we root for him getting with the heroine if he was so awful?
When I saw it on home video there was no swearing, and the Prince had been edited to be more sympathetic. My friend who was at the screening with me also remembered the original version and we wondered if we were crazy, but then we learned that it had indeed been cut to be more sympathetic and family friendly and remove curse words.
The DVD is supposedly a restored version, but it does not contain the Prince calling Cinderella that particular epithet. So it may have been only in previews.
But seriously, Cinderella deserves better than a guy who calls her names!