I read in an article that an imagineer watched "Bambi" after being stumped on how to remove Big Red. They realized the impact of the film was NOT seeing the mother's body and instead seeing the impact of a baby animal left alone. "Mother! Mother, where are you?" It seems that early on after opening they used dialog from the radio calls like "Big Red is down!" which is ambiguous, but still implies she was killed. Slowly they changed it so she for-sure lived. I think they could have kept mommy elephant dead out of view, instead showing Little Red tooting for her, all alone as an animatronic, even if it would have been a patch closing the ride down for a while. This stuff does happen to elephants IRL, and being the social creatures they are, they actually grieve their herd members' deaths, staying with a body for days and making unique sounds. A baby elephant all alone would be confused, but it would be less graphic yet still heartbreaking.
I wish that they had taken that approach, it would have been less graphic seeing a baby elephant motherless and all alone, have the message of poachers and not get a backlash from parents, it didn’t deserve
Eh, I still think a visible dead elephant would be more impactful. Which do more people consider to be heartwrenching, Bambi's mother's death, or Mufasa's death?
Artsy CinnamonRoll their not broken the stupid workers refuse to clean them so when I hear their machine is broken I respond "actually you mean you guys are to lazy to clean it"
I was very disheartened to find that the poaching skit from the safari had been removed. I learned at a very young age what poaching was and the importance of the issue FROM that aspect of the safari. I understand how it may not be appropriate for children, but, as I said, that’s how I learned so young.
Sure kids should learn but maybe not on holiday at the "happiest place on earth". There's a time and a place for things, especially when it involves young kids.
He'd be rolling in his grave to see the heavily IP based attractions that are replacing original rides... I despise the Maelstroms change... especially since it didn't bother to fix the Maelstroms original issues Walt would hate what they've done. They opted out of making interesting stories for a ride and instead take someone else's stories and cram them into a ride format... The only thing they're still good at is theming but they ffed that one up in Disney Land cali with the guardians of the galaxy attraction standing out like a giant space building in downtown Hollywood... who would've thought?
I work at Kilimanjaro Safari and most of the drivers are sad they abandoned the poaching storyline. in the area near the rhinos there is still a set piece that we like to mention because KSR drivers are still there to spread a message of conservation, and the biggest threat to rhinos is still poaching. there are rumors that another guest complaint was that the plot took away animal photography opportunities, the main point of the ride. I joined the ride after the change, so I don't really have an opinion, however, its frustrating that this was taken due to being "too violent" THE POINT WAS TO MAKE PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE. the point was to teach people that innocent animals are dying every single day. and to this day drivers continue to remind guests that animals may go extinct soon due to poaching.
Was the set piece you mentioned a pile of horns/ tusks? I could’ve sworn I saw something like that on my last trip but I wasn’t too sure what I had seen
of course, if the anti-poaching storyline was still there today, you'd have overprivileged coked-up pieces of shit like Don Jr on TV constantly attacking Disney for pushing it's "agenda" that threatens his "right" to slaughter endangered species to make a chinless wonder like him feel like a big man
I mean... on the one hand, I get what you're saying, but on the other hand, "the point was to make people uncomfortable" is an inherently weird thing to say about an _amusement park ride._
I hope disco Yeti eventually gets fixed after Avatar is opened. There's no doubt the attraction will go down for refurbishment since its never had one since opening.
Yesterworld Entertainment i went in 2010 to animal kingdom for a a vacation. they had the part about the pocher. when i went back in 2013 they took it out completely.
My memory may be incorrect here, but didn't Joe Rohde or someone say that's precisely what they are going to do? It would make sense. That would be the perfect time to shut the ride down and fix that frickin' Yeti since "Pandora: The World of Avatar" will be the single most popular part of Animal Kingdom for a long time to come. Come on Disney! Fix the yeti!
Why would they need to take out the yeti ? The problem is not the yeti itself (it functions) , but the weak connections down to the foundation. The job to do is under the yeti..
Funny you mention that, I had an edit where I said something along the lines of "B mode aka disco yeti", but didn't like how I sounded for whatever reason at the time and forgot to re-record that part.
Yesterworld Entertainment I didn't even know it was gone! I always thought it was there. I just don't like violent or scary rides, and absolutely no roller coasters. I only have specific choices of dark rides and stuff.
razor muffin we went back to animal kingdom last year and I was telling my friends about the airplane and poacher encounter. They thought I was crazy when the ride was done.
I like it better before, I went after they took Big Red out, but I enjoyed it because there was sort of a sense of adventure and urgency, like we had a mission to take down those poachers! Of course, that is my very young self's perspective on it, and I have to say it is a bit tasteless now in terms of plot.
I remember the whole poachers thing on the safari. The first time I ever went to Disneyland we went on it, and I remember I kept asking “Are the poachers real?” And getting scared. We went for the third time about a month ago, and there was no mention of poachers, the woman driving just said “Oh, looks like we’re gonna have to take a turn, as our normal route is blocked off.” It was supposed to scare us, but that can’t replace the poaching thing.
What's everyone's obsession with correcting people? We all know what they meant. For the sake of their conversation starter you don't need to correct them. To your topic, when I worked at dak they had lil red outside of pride rock cafe back stage. Anyone who is still there know if it's still back there?
I think it's beautifully important to use the correct terms, because it's important to understand each other, and also important for those who don't know this stuff. Imagine some kid, reading through, seeing DL instead of WDW, and then going to school, repeating that info, and being made fun of... nothing wrong with correcting the facts (politely), even more so in these distorted facts times we live in.
I was lucky enough to see the Yeti move as well . It’s not the only coaster that had a feature disabled unfortunately. The cave incline on Big Thunder Mountain which featured a “cave in” effect also had large moving boulders which are now disabled and all that remains is the rumbling sound being played over the sound system inside the cave. Knowing how these things have changed during my years of going to the parks, I find myself much more focused on every aspect of the ride and trying to appreciate them more as you never know when the day may come when they are lost. Feels bad man!
My grandmother swore on her LIFE that the yeti’s movement made her feel like he brushed her hair! I doubt it! But it was truly a sight to see! I’m so disappointed that we are in disco yeti mode ;-; almost all of these affects seemed to add so much more Disney magic!!!
I still remember that Big Red Little Red part of the ride. Kind of surprising that people were offended, you can turn on Animal Planet and see animal violence and no one would be upset.
NekoSocks 25 On the other hand being reminded that poaching exists in possibly the most lighted hard place on earth and in a very innocent park within WDW may be a little shocking for a small kid or a parent. Apply YMMV.
I remember seeing the fully functioning yeti when I went to Disney YEARS ago. And when I went back just recently I recall it being only the strobe effect. I assumed I had imagined it actually moving from the time before since I was so young. But I'm glad this video explained it wasn't just my imagination. I'm going back to Disney in a couple days and can't wait!!
pisses me off they took away big red's death. those people just want to ignore the fact that elephants are killed everyday by poachers and are soon going to be driven to extinction because of it. you can't ignore the facts
They aren't going to be driven to extinction. Not while they have any market value at all. It's a problem, yes, but one that can be mended partly, and ironically, by legalizing big game hunting.
Elephants are slow breeders. You'd have to farm elephants specifically for hunting and build up breeding stock or get people on a waiting list to shoot one. And then it would be canned hunting. That doesn't take skill, just a decent shot in a small area. Frankly, I find trophy hunting disgusting. You hunt it, you eat it/use its fur. Two tusks or a wasted carcass that going to get stuffed and given glass eyes is hardly a justification for killing a huge animal like that.
The legitimately killed elephants (by the park wardens,not ivory hunters) are used as a source of meat. The elephants are butchered,and the animal is used to feed hungry people. The ivory is not used,but destroyed.
I actually went to Disney when the yeti still ran. I was 7 but still remember that thing being awesome. I went last year and didn't even notice the dang thing. #BRINGHIMBACK
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Shame about them scrapping the original Safrai Little and Big Red ride. Had a fantastic message behind it, which the graphicness would have got across very well.
It was a good message, and while I never got to see the dead mother elephant version, the other parts that did stay just didn't mesh well with the rest of the ride, which is all about the real animals. I was glad when they finally got rid of it.
Grumpydrawer yes i wish that powerful message would return. to highlight how real animals are killed for ivory. so some kids get sad - good they wont buy Ivory products and will support anti-poaching efforrts.
It would be extremely controversial though, not just for the "graphic" material. I work in wildlife conservation and there are a lot of different opinions on what constitutes poaching (like ~who~ is killing the animals, just for one example).
I was here before the Yeti died. It was one of the most terrifying and exciting moments of my life. It mades me sad to see him in his current condition, but if he is fixed SOMEDAY it'll be worth the wait ❤
WillowLane Productions I was never blown away by a ride as I was by the moving yeti. I was able to experience it once and it seriously freaked me out when I first saw it. It NEEDS to be repaired
I remember seeing the original Yeti during Passholder previews for Everest the weekend before it opened. I definitely remember it being scary and the next time I went to Animal Kingdom (a few years later, since it's my least visited park) I remember thinking "Huh. I feel like that Yeti was a LOT scarier last time." but I didn't really pick up on why. I thought maybe it was because I was 12 when I saw the original, so it was just scarier back then. I didn't even know about the issues until I started working there. I also definitely remember Lil Red and the poachers. Not sure about the Big Red carcass though. I might've seen it.
Shannon Bristol lol I thought that same thing about the yeti this time! He moved when my family & I rode that ride in 2009, not too long after it had been built and the yeti reached out like he was going to grab the train cart and I closed my eyes when I saw him do that so he couldn’t get me! Haha I was 12 at the time. Now, they have an animation of the yeti on HD screens that show him eating the track. Definitely not as scary.
I remember seeing the carcas as a kid. However it didnt really affect me much since I learned a lot about poaching (elephants specifically) in kindergarten. I found it awesome that Disney would want to teach people about such a major issue and it saddens me that its gone now
Jeremy Gabriel did the fake carcass have anymore blood marks or anything on it or just lying there?? Curious? But I’m glad someone took this positively as a child after reading someone going on how it was dark and depressing and such. I feel stopping the poachers and saving little red would make you feel good inside for saving the elephant instead of dark and depressed from seeing the mom elephant dead
Frizzball who’s 50th anniversary? Disney World? Animal Kingdom? Or the ride itself? Because if it is the ride’s 50th anniversary, that is a long time from now, since it has only been up for 14 years.
I was lucky enough to see the rubble fall from the ceiling in the Indiana Jones ride. My Uncle was an employee and we were able to go on the ride before it opened to the public. I went on the ride a couple years ago and didn't even realize that they had removed it until I saw this video.
So Disney had an attraction where an elephant was murdered by poachers, and said poachers then shoot at you, then the poachers get arrested, meanwhile the dead elephant's child is now motherless...that's some heavy stuff. (P.S who thought it was a good idea to make an animatronic part of the entire ride's structure?)
There is one effect that Disney tried to perfect for years before finally getting it to work properly. In the current iteration of Pirates at Disneyland, there is a waterfall that Davey Jones appears in. This effect has very old roots. There is a semi-successful iteration in the Temple of the Forbidden Eye involving rats but it only has a 1/3 chance of appearing correctly in my experience. That is not the oldest attempt, however. The effect was originally tried out in the 1983 New Fantasyland update. At the end of Peter Pan Flight, the ships would fly through a waterfall. Unfortunately, the frequency of the ships passing through the mist screen created turbulence that prevented the screen from fully forming and the effect was removed. The turbulence problem resurfaced in the Temple as well, thus the reason that the transport vehicle "stalls" just before the rats drop. This is to give a chance for the turbulence to die down and the screen to reform, This is moderately successful as sometimes the screen reforms and the edges can be seen swirling. The final successful attempt is in Pirates of the Caribbean where the slow motion of the boats does not create any turbulence, allowing the mist screen to function 100% of the time.
it was Davy Jones when I went in 2008, shortly after the effect's addition. I rode it again 12/26/14 and i think it was black beard & the effect was having the "turbulence" issue previously mentioned referring to peter pan at MK. While i hate all of the motion picture add ins, I totally loved the smoke skrim effect!
They should of kept all of them, but Big Red is very realistic. It might teach kids the meaning of life and not to hurt some animals. They could do an age restricting or something! Why do they always have to take it away?? Edit: THIS IS WHY WE NEED MICROBOTS!!! IT COULD TAKE A WEEK TO MAKE THREE RIDES!!!! SOMEONE MAKE MICROBOTS!!!!!!!!
Catmandu101 the whole point was to show us how fucked up it is. it wasn’t an extra. it WAS the ride. that’s what was supposed to happen. welcome to the real world where shit is fucked up and goes south hella fast. scary thing is while pussy moms got what they wanted in disney, the real animals were still having this happen to them
I knew that the Yeti had been fully functioning!!! I remember seeing a documentary or special and freaking out over it (I adore animatronics) but every time I mention it, no one else seemed to remember. It used to be my favorite part. I also remember the Kilimanjaro ride back when they still had Little Red and the jeep scene. I know there are a few other effects that weren't on this list... but in an amazing twist of irony, even I can't remember what they are!
At Disneyland, I know there is an animatronic jumping fish that used to be intended for Nature's Wonderland that still sometimes randomly works on it's own, but it is no longer taken care of by Disney... Ummm... After that, I am not sure.
Kali River Rapids is like 80% no longer working. The jeep falling in the water, fire scenes were toned down, I forget what else but I just remember that when riding it compared to the old 1990's promo VHS tape I have, there were many things no longer working.
Hannah O'Neil my first time at Disneyland was in 2006 and I'm just glad i saw it in working order. though i only went on that ride once since i haven't been back to Disneyland. But it was cool!
The parks are financially stuggling, because of their tickets are too high. Lower it enough, so they get more guest, but not too little where they'll face a similar problem. They need to find a right balance.
It's a shame all these are broken, but I guess that's the thing with animatronics. I know for instance even the shark in jaws (called Bruce if memory serves me correctly) malfunctioned all the time which is why its shown so little. Still, I'd love to get a close look through a ride at some point. :-P
Also before the Haunted Mansion was officially opened back when there were concepts for it being a ride through, there was a concept for a "ghostly temperature drop" and footsteps in the neverending hallway scene. If you look closely at the walls as you're passing through the speakers are still in the structure. They axed the concept though when the doombuggy concept was implemented because it didn't make sense for the effect to only happen to a select few people going through as the doombuggies run on a constant circuit. There is also the actor dressed in a suit of armor meant to scare patrons which was scrapped not long after being implemented into the mansion. And I have yet to confirm it but there's an odd piece of construction on the exterior of the mansions property and it's said that there was originally supposed to be an underground walk-through catacomb that was scrapped before the mansion opened.
If the "odd piece" is the crypts with all the names on, this is actually an emergency exit. The interior door for the exit is in the portrait hallway on the left side.
I was lucky enough to have seen the Yeti fully operational the year that Expedition Everest opened up. I had no idea that it wasn't working anymore until just now. Now I feel bad for the big guy! :(
I remember the Yeti waving its arm when I went in 2008 but I guess it wasn't fully functional. It's sad because I love Expedition Everest, it's one of my favorites.
sailorqueen2013 I used to work Everest and it still had A show days in 2008. It definitely teetered off and on between the shows, but by the time I left the company it was solely in B show.
Kane Legacy because Disney never throws anything away. Company policy. Sometimes they dig things up from years ago and find new ways to use it. No matter what department it is Disney never throws anything away.
Because to repair it they'd have to get pretty deep into the rock facade that the Yeti was mounted on because that's where a good chunk of the supports and mechanics are. Which would require a fair chunk of closed time for the ride and the ride is one of the most popular ones in it's park. Once there's a new popular attraction to draw crowds away from Expedition Everest they can consider closing it for the required repairs and refurbishing to bring Yeti back.
It's not just the Yeti itself that needs to be fixed, it's its foundation and support structure. They would have to remove part of the mountain and the track to fix it.
I was part of the crew that worked at The Great Movie ride maby months prior to its debut. Scripts and effects were constantly changing. The Footlight Parade issues were exactly as descibed. In fact, I'd estimate it only worked properly about 10% of the time. The full effect involved each platform layer rotating in alternate directions, fountain effects within it, and bubble effects all over. Honestly, it seemed a very simple effect to be ao unreliable. The Wizard of Oz area was especially problematic because of timing issues: Disney simply could not get permission to use as much time as was needed. The intro was originally the Kansas tornado (which ended up as Fantasia), and the setpiece was originally mord than a half minute longer. The trailer was removed from the cue for the same reason.
I hope they can get the yeti back up and running. Sure it may take a while and cost a lot to rebuild the mountain (well apart of it) but it would bring a lot more people in.
I remember posting that first video of the falling rubble to micechat years ago! I paused and re watched those frames countless times and was so sure it was the falling rubble effect. I can't believe all these years later I'm seeing it again here on this video! From what I remember, nobody on micechat seemed to agree that it WAS the falling rubble. Thank you for posting this!! I fee vindicated. Your second video of the falling rubble is amazing footage! I've been looking for a video like that for over a decade.
Wow!! Talk about blast from the past! I remember searching through MiceChat, and finding someone (evidently you) posting that video so many years back!! My nerdy self had dreamed of being able to see that effect for myself, and yours was the first proof I'd ever seen of that effect. You are more than vindicated my friend! That second video was due to many hours of searching through countless youtube "Indy" POV videos. In a way, you inspired this Disney lost attraction effects video, as it was the Indy Ice effect that started this whole thing!
Yesterworld Entertainment this made my whole day! So funny how this came full circle! I'm a huge nerd for this stuff and glad I could inspire such a well done video.
This is all I have ever wanted in a RUclips channel. Amazingly fascinating information which I used to research for hours, all presented in a nicely edited and paced video. Love your content, keep it up!
It was 10 years ago, back in April 2007, but I definitely saw Lil Red and if I remember right I also saw the Yeti before they were removed. Of course, the memories are hazy having just been a kid then.
It can’t be fixed. In order for it to be fixed properly, Disney would have to tear down over half of the mountain and track, fix the yeti, then rebuild almoast the whole ride. #bethankful
just found your channel recently and I really think it will get big fast! I'm a huge fan of theme park technology and especially Disneyland history, so by the looks of it, your channel is one I am all for! Great content dude, keep it up!!!
Wow, thank you for your kind words! Someone like you taking time out of your day to comment on something like that really means a lot to me, and truly makes my day. I'm aiming to balance my love and passion of theme parks, gaming, and movie history into content everyone can love and enjoy. I think you'll love my next theme park additon ;)
Yesterworld Entertainment - How come that *MGM* theme park recreated the *"Footlight Parade"* (one of my favorite Busby Berkeley movies, by the way) scene, if "Footlight Parade" was a *Warner Brothers* movie???
Great video! I got to ride Kilimanjaro for the cast member preview and it really did not sit well with me. Not seeing the dead elephant, but the fact that the ride touts all completely real animals and then ends with an animatronic. It really sent mixed messages and I was glad to (finally) see little Red go, so when they say all the animals are real, they really are.
Thanks so much! That's so cool you were among the few to see it, but I completely understand why it didn't sit well with people including yourself. I can imagine for a child, having seen all live animals up to that point then showing a lifelike "dead" elephant would be quite unsettling.
When went on that ride back in 2010, I think, I didn't know that the baby elephant was animatronic, so I was always wondering why nobody, was making a big deal about keeping a baby elephant locked up in one place for so long.
Disney Imagineer Terri Hardin and I visited Shanghai Disneyland in July 2017. She wanted to take the park in and deeply appreciate the Imagineers' work. She told me to go to new attractions immediately because you get to see everything the Imagineer's intended for the attraction working entirely. Past the first year, she told me, and it's anyone's guess what you'll get.
I remember going on Expedition Everest shortly after it opened and seeing the fully functioning Yeti. It scared me so bad, I actually cried. I went back in May of 2016, and, although I knew what happened to it, I was still disappointed at the change.
Camille Daaé is it weird that I've been on Expedition Everest before and I've NEVER NOTICED the Yeti? I mean, I did ride it after the Yeti was dormant, but I seriously didn't notice it.
I went to Disneyland when I was 5 years old in 1967. I distinctly remember the original Tiki Hut with the Barker birds and original demi gods. That attraction, The Pirates of the Caribbean and the Small World ride were my all time favorites.
I love the videos from movies that you choose to loosely depict what you're describing. You have hilarious and great choices thrown in your videos which makes them all so great on top of the info you're giving us.
I swear that stuff in the Indiana Jones queue had stuff that used to work too. There a sign in there a that says "Warning: Bats" and I feel like touching those golden rocks would do something. Also with holes in the ceiling and I feel like stepping in certain tiles would trigger spikes to descend. Also I remember a part where if you pull on a rope carrying something, some guy under will complain about it
There was a bamboo pole that if you pulled on it, you would hear a loud crash and the spikes would start to lower from the ceiling but it hasn't worked in years! Also miss the free Mara font decoding cards!
Aaaah the rope! It’s my favorite part of the line lmao. My aunt didn’t know it was a joke and told my cousin not to pull on it but then I did and he was so confused because I literally did what she told him not to do. Lol I had to explain that it was allowed to be pulled because it was a joke. I never knew the spiked would descend if you stepped on the diamonds! I always stepped on them and nothing happened. Maybe it’s an older feature or at a specific Disneyland, the only one I’ve ever been to is the California one, so I wouldn’t know anything about the others. Pretty neat!
I believe the spike effect was removed due to safety concerning tall guests. Disneyland CA is also the only installation of "Forbidden Eye", WDW has an allegedly copied layout in Dinosaur (Countdown to Extinction) @ Animal Kingdom.
Definitely yes. I got to go on it very soon after it opened (waited in line for well over 2 hours, lol - totally worth it!) and remember seeing the falling rubble and all of those awesome things in the queue. Man, I wish they would fix some of those effects, especially the ceiling rubble. So awesome.
The Yeti would be a nice reclaim, for sure. I know that you didn't include it here, but my biggest gripe at the WDW parks is the loss of Snow White's Scary Adventures. The biggest lost to the parks ever, I think!
Wow, i had completely forgotten about Lil and Big Red! I definitely remember Lil Red being there when I was a kid, and I'm pretty sure I remember Big Red's body too, but I don't remember the jeep.
I had a strange experience with my family on the Disneyland pirates ride. We rode the ride twice in a row. On the second time, the pirate balancing on the dock and boat holding a stack of stuff was gone. Almost as if the animatronic had been removed. Can somebody explain this to me? Because me and my family are so confused!
Visited as a kid and saw the rewritten but functional version of the safari, and saw the fully functional yeti. Because of the yeti, that is still my favorite Disney ride to this day, but more than a decade later I had no idea it hasn't been seen since.
I saw the falling debris on opening week! Believe it or not, it fell in the room when you looked into Maras eyes as well. Brown rocks would fall and smash. Obviously some colored ice that would melt and be recycled. I've been claiming this forever, and this is the first video I've seen about it.
I remember the Kilimanjaro safari poacher chase, I was actually looking forward to going back this year and experiencing that again. Knowing now that they took it out, is it just a "safari tour" now? Or what?
I remember seeing the rubble falling on the Indiana Jones ride, but I rode it in the early months. Honestly, the scene is impressive without it. The musical queues, the fire, the feeling of the whole ride. Love it. I also remember the spikes in the queue and being an obnoxious teenager, hitting the bamboo pole(which also worked to make it move if I remember correctly) as I was leaving to make the spikes fall down on the people behind me when the line was going fast. x3
I remember the Animal Kingdom Safari ride with the poachers during a visit in '09. I thought it was pretty cool, and had a real world message for people. The jeep chase, the rocking bridge, and the animatronic baby elephant at the end was all integrated very well. What made it cooler, was our driver had an acting voice that sounded like Shaggy from Scooby Doo! During our last visit in '15, we went on the ride again, and it just wasn't the same... it felt like we were just driving through a zoo.
Speaking of the Safari ride, i remember riding the ride and getting really sad when i thought they got big red, but being happy we stopped the fuckin poachers from getting the baby. Thanks for bringing that memory up! Edit: and in expedition everest, i deff remember the yeti actually swinging at me!
Fun fact from an engineer who worked at wdw, they could have fixed the yeti during the time the parks were closed during lockdown, but surprise surprise disney didnt want to spend the money. One could argue they were worried because they were in the midst of uncertainty. But lets be clear. Disney had the money, they had the RARE opportunity of downtime to work on it, AND still chose not to. For that reason i highly doubt the yeti will ever be fixed, even with imagineer backing. Its sad.
I can verify with 100% that my Mother when riding the Haunted Mansion on a 'Soft Opening' that she spotted the Hatbox Ghost. It wasn't as the publisher of this video said that is was in 'Cast Member viewings' that they deemed the effect a failure.
I actually got to see the yeti working. My family was there opening week of Everest. It was an amazingly wonderful (and slightly terrifying) effect. I do really hope they fix it one day.
As a film lover I'm sad not only by the Footlight Parade segment never working in my lifetime, but also the tear down of the Great Movie Ride entirely. Most people didn't appreciate it, but it was one of my favorite rides. I'm not surprised by the complaints regarding Big Red, there's leaving an impact on kids on the dangers of poaching, but then there's ruining a family's whole day by having the kids cry over the dead elephant. Disney is expensive people, parents just want to take their kids their to have fun. I wish they'd kept the second iteration that kept the poachers but omitted the corpse, but oh well.
The Haunted Mansion was my favorite thing at Disney Land. That and an Evening with President Lincoln and the Matorhorn!!! Brings back a LOT of great childhood memories💖💖
I remember as a little kid going on the Small World. When you entered the ocean, bubbles would start up. But now, there isn't any bubbles. When I ask people about it they don't remember. Am I tripping?
I was extremely lucky and got to see The Yeti in A mode when I was just ten years old and Expedition Everest had been open for no longer than two months!!! The Yeti was absolutely amazing and I remember looking up and being right under his arm when he did his initial huge arm sweep!!! The taller people behind me all ducked fearing that they would accidentally hit their heads on his hand!!! It was absolutely perfect and I am holding Joe Rohde to his promise of fixing my favorite animatronic on my absolute favorite Disney ride!!!!!
I was there the summer of 2007 to witness the Yeti. It was truly a sight to behold especially since that ride has you going all over the place, the last thing you expect to see is a big ass animatronic yeti.
Please do! I think there is so much potential in future advanced animatronics that is being overshadowed and unexplored by the ease and cost effectiveness of screen based attractions.
Great video, I loved it and learned many things! Thank you very much. Why a conveyor belt for the falling ice, tho? Why not the ice machine directly above the hole (with a trap)?
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! It does seem a little over complicated doesn't it? My guess would be that it took multiple batches of ice to create enough ice needed, and the conveyor belt was a way to collect it all before dropping it down. Perhaps if it was just directly above it would clump together.
I remember seeing the yeti move because I was terrified of the ride and the one time I looked up was at the yeti and it freaked me out. I kept my jead down the whole rest of the ride. I was very young.
I remember when the Yeti was fully functioning, and I remember when only the arm worked (limited motion) and it was cooler but it was constantly breaking down. The ride would be down for half of or the full day, often after you'd waited in line for a long time. It was a huge relief when they just turned it off, cause it's one of my favorite rides and you'd hardly get to ride it
I rode the original safari during the cast meme WR preview. I liked it that way best. I also really liked the now removed transportation boats around the park
Where did that footage at 3:50 where the guy goes, "THere's Little Red! We rescued Little Red from those Posturers after they killed his mom!" come from?
I witnessed the Yeti when it used to move when I was a kid back in 2006, I remember it scaring my younger sister so much she didn't ride any roller coasters for a really long time
I read in an article that an imagineer watched "Bambi" after being stumped on how to remove Big Red. They realized the impact of the film was NOT seeing the mother's body and instead seeing the impact of a baby animal left alone. "Mother! Mother, where are you?"
It seems that early on after opening they used dialog from the radio calls like "Big Red is down!" which is ambiguous, but still implies she was killed. Slowly they changed it so she for-sure lived.
I think they could have kept mommy elephant dead out of view, instead showing Little Red tooting for her, all alone as an animatronic, even if it would have been a patch closing the ride down for a while. This stuff does happen to elephants IRL, and being the social creatures they are, they actually grieve their herd members' deaths, staying with a body for days and making unique sounds. A baby elephant all alone would be confused, but it would be less graphic yet still heartbreaking.
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You're a genius omg
Yandere Chan Yeeeup! Drew him myself. :3
NItheBI Aw, shucks. :3
I wish that they had taken that approach, it would have been less graphic seeing a baby elephant motherless and all alone, have the message of poachers and not get a backlash from parents, it didn’t deserve
Eh, I still think a visible dead elephant would be more impactful. Which do more people consider to be heartwrenching, Bambi's mother's death, or Mufasa's death?
It's sad how most of these attractions/amusements are still broken, just like McDonald's soft serve machine
Artsy CinnamonRoll Especially the big mab machine :(
Artsy CinnamonRoll and the McFlurry Machine!!! BTW, love your username
Artsy CinnamonRoll their not broken the stupid workers refuse to clean them so when I hear their machine is broken I respond "actually you mean you guys are to lazy to clean it"
No they are "broken"
Actually, it means that they're cleaning it. I worked at McDonald's for two years.
I was very disheartened to find that the poaching skit from the safari had been removed. I learned at a very young age what poaching was and the importance of the issue FROM that aspect of the safari. I understand how it may not be appropriate for children, but, as I said, that’s how I learned so young.
Sure kids should learn but maybe not on holiday at the "happiest place on earth". There's a time and a place for things, especially when it involves young kids.
Jo but I mean, it is Animal Kingdom where you’re learning about conservation so...
@@nathanielc8892 do you have young kids? Older kids yeah they'd be fine but the young kids would probably end up really upset and crying.
@Renske Jungerling try getting that through to a toddler 😆.
@Renske Jungerling I'm guessing that you don't have experience with kids? 😆
"We haven't got the ghosts yet. But we are out - collecting - the ghosts."
Walt Disney could turn delays into stories.
He'd be rolling in his grave to see the heavily IP based attractions that are replacing original rides...
I despise the Maelstroms change... especially since it didn't bother to fix the Maelstroms original issues
Walt would hate what they've done. They opted out of making interesting stories for a ride and instead take someone else's stories and cram them into a ride format...
The only thing they're still good at is theming but they ffed that one up in Disney Land cali with the guardians of the galaxy attraction standing out like a giant space building in downtown Hollywood... who would've thought?
Who do they call to get the ghosts?
Matthew Chenault and they have room for 1,000
How Do You collect Ghosts? This Is Way Before Ghostbusters
@@Carl-jy2gr Ghostbusters! (Sorry Walt)
I work at Kilimanjaro Safari and most of the drivers are sad they abandoned the poaching storyline. in the area near the rhinos there is still a set piece that we like to mention because KSR drivers are still there to spread a message of conservation, and the biggest threat to rhinos is still poaching. there are rumors that another guest complaint was that the plot took away animal photography opportunities, the main point of the ride. I joined the ride after the change, so I don't really have an opinion, however, its frustrating that this was taken due to being "too violent" THE POINT WAS TO MAKE PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE. the point was to teach people that innocent animals are dying every single day. and to this day drivers continue to remind guests that animals may go extinct soon due to poaching.
Was the set piece you mentioned a pile of horns/ tusks? I could’ve sworn I saw something like that on my last trip but I wasn’t too sure what I had seen
J.M. Vail I rode it with the plot when I was young and was so disappointed when I came back a few years later and it didn’t happen. ☹️
of course, if the anti-poaching storyline was still there today, you'd have overprivileged coked-up pieces of shit like Don Jr on TV constantly attacking Disney for pushing it's "agenda" that threatens his "right" to slaughter endangered species to make a chinless wonder like him feel like a big man
I mean... on the one hand, I get what you're saying, but on the other hand, "the point was to make people uncomfortable" is an inherently weird thing to say about an _amusement park ride._
I hope disco Yeti eventually gets fixed after Avatar is opened. There's no doubt the attraction will go down for refurbishment since its never had one since opening.
Me too. I would love to experience the ride as initially envisioned with a full functioning Yeti!
Yesterworld Entertainment The same can be said about Dinosaur
Yesterworld Entertainment i went in 2010 to animal kingdom for a a vacation. they had the part about the pocher. when i went back in 2013 they took it out completely.
My memory may be incorrect here, but didn't Joe Rohde or someone say that's precisely what they are going to do? It would make sense. That would be the perfect time to shut the ride down and fix that frickin' Yeti since "Pandora: The World of Avatar" will be the single most popular part of Animal Kingdom for a long time to come. Come on Disney! Fix the yeti!
Why would they need to take out the yeti ? The problem is not the yeti itself (it functions) , but the weak connections down to the foundation. The job to do is under the yeti..
The fans of the ride now call the B-mode 'Disco Yeti'.
Funny you mention that, I had an edit where I said something along the lines of "B mode aka disco yeti", but didn't like how I sounded for whatever reason at the time and forgot to re-record that part.
Yesterworld Entertainment I didn't even know it was gone! I always thought it was there. I just don't like violent or scary rides, and absolutely no roller coasters. I only have specific choices of dark rides and stuff.
Same.
Kate O yes and there's a little tradition to tell "DISCO YETI" when the yeti part comes up.😂
XxAvaxX Lol tr
I knew I wasn't crazy to think there used to be poachers in the safari
razor muffin we went back to animal kingdom last year and I was telling my friends about the airplane and poacher encounter. They thought I was crazy when the ride was done.
T Z omg me too! I went when I was younger, going back 2 years ago and after the ride my mom and I said how there used to be poachers and stuff
Nate G do you like it better now or before
I like it better before, I went after they took Big Red out, but I enjoyed it because there was sort of a sense of adventure and urgency, like we had a mission to take down those poachers! Of course, that is my very young self's perspective on it, and I have to say it is a bit tasteless now in terms of plot.
Nate G I kinda like it more now, it's the most relaxing ride in all of Disney in my opinion and one of the most interesting
I remember the whole poachers thing on the safari. The first time I ever went to Disneyland we went on it, and I remember I kept asking “Are the poachers real?” And getting scared. We went for the third time about a month ago, and there was no mention of poachers, the woman driving just said “Oh, looks like we’re gonna have to take a turn, as our normal route is blocked off.” It was supposed to scare us, but that can’t replace the poaching thing.
Disney WORLD, you mean.
What's everyone's obsession with correcting people? We all know what they meant. For the sake of their conversation starter you don't need to correct them. To your topic, when I worked at dak they had lil red outside of pride rock cafe back stage. Anyone who is still there know if it's still back there?
I think it's beautifully important to use the correct terms, because it's important to understand each other, and also important for those who don't know this stuff. Imagine some kid, reading through, seeing DL instead of WDW, and then going to school, repeating that info, and being made fun of... nothing wrong with correcting the facts (politely), even more so in these distorted facts times we live in.
I thankfully got to witness the Yeti in full movement. It scared my brother at the time. XD
that must have been incredible!!
i saw the yeti in full movement too. it was legit terrifying
I was lucky enough to see the Yeti move as well . It’s not the only coaster that had a feature disabled unfortunately. The cave incline on Big Thunder Mountain which featured a “cave in” effect also had large moving boulders which are now disabled and all that remains is the rumbling sound being played over the sound system inside the cave. Knowing how these things have changed during my years of going to the parks, I find myself much more focused on every aspect of the ride and trying to appreciate them more as you never know when the day may come when they are lost. Feels bad man!
ME TOO I miss it so much
My grandmother swore on her LIFE that the yeti’s movement made her feel like he brushed her hair! I doubt it! But it was truly a sight to see! I’m so disappointed that we are in disco yeti mode ;-; almost all of these affects seemed to add so much more Disney magic!!!
I still remember that Big Red Little Red part of the ride. Kind of surprising that people were offended, you can turn on Animal Planet and see animal violence and no one would be upset.
Cid the Goblin I remember seeing it as a kid and it not even bothering me. I was more scared of the tilting bridge over the alligators
I remember little red
Stingy Cid thats different.. animal planet is for education reasons while disney is for family friendly fun
NekoSocks 25 On the other hand being reminded that poaching exists in possibly the most lighted hard place on earth and in a very innocent park within WDW may be a little shocking for a small kid or a parent. Apply YMMV.
I've never done it, I've never even been to any Disney park!
I remember seeing the fully functioning yeti when I went to Disney YEARS ago. And when I went back just recently I recall it being only the strobe effect. I assumed I had imagined it actually moving from the time before since I was so young. But I'm glad this video explained it wasn't just my imagination.
I'm going back to Disney in a couple days and can't wait!!
Was it scary When it moved?
pisses me off they took away big red's death. those people just want to ignore the fact that elephants are killed everyday by poachers and are soon going to be driven to extinction because of it. you can't ignore the facts
brianna childers ditto
They aren't going to be driven to extinction. Not while they have any market value at all.
It's a problem, yes, but one that can be mended partly, and ironically, by legalizing big game hunting.
Elephants are slow breeders. You'd have to farm elephants specifically for hunting and build up breeding stock or get people on a waiting list to shoot one. And then it would be canned hunting. That doesn't take skill, just a decent shot in a small area.
Frankly, I find trophy hunting disgusting. You hunt it, you eat it/use its fur. Two tusks or a wasted carcass that going to get stuffed and given glass eyes is hardly a justification for killing a huge animal like that.
The legitimately killed elephants (by the park wardens,not ivory hunters) are used as a source of meat. The elephants are butchered,and the animal is used to feed hungry people. The ivory is not used,but destroyed.
I pity them. I hear elephant meat tastes like glue.
I actually went to Disney when the yeti still ran. I was 7 but still remember that thing being awesome. I went last year and didn't even notice the dang thing. #BRINGHIMBACK
The yetis still there at the Florida one??
@@makaylarobitaille8491 yeah it's just hard to see
At least they are trying to fix it
I saw it moving just weeks before they shut it down. It was an amazing effect, too amazing for the ride itself to handle.
Makayla Robitaille yeah he's there he just doesn't move anymore. i just saw him last year.
it seems the Hat Box Ghost is the real ghost haunting that ride.....
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ZoraXire It's back!
Shame about them scrapping the original Safrai Little and Big Red ride. Had a fantastic message behind it, which the graphicness would have got across very well.
It was a good message, and while I never got to see the dead mother elephant version, the other parts that did stay just didn't mesh well with the rest of the ride, which is all about the real animals. I was glad when they finally got rid of it.
Grumpydrawer yes i wish that powerful message would return. to highlight how real animals are killed for ivory. so some kids get sad - good they wont buy Ivory products and will support anti-poaching efforrts.
It would be extremely controversial though, not just for the "graphic" material. I work in wildlife conservation and there are a lot of different opinions on what constitutes poaching (like ~who~ is killing the animals, just for one example).
Welcome to 'Murikkka, where we freak out about a fake dead elephant but wont do a damn thing about the real ones.
Grumpydrawer - One of the selling points was always that it has real animals. Naturally, one might then assume the dead elephant actually was real.
I was here before the Yeti died. It was one of the most terrifying and exciting moments of my life. It mades me sad to see him in his current condition, but if he is fixed SOMEDAY it'll be worth the wait ❤
WillowLane Productions I might e been there but I was a little at the time and scared so my eyes were closed the whole time ;v;
WillowLane Productions i could of sworn it was moving in 2008.
A J It was moving in 2008
WillowLane Productions I was never blown away by a ride as I was by the moving yeti. I was able to experience it once and it seriously freaked me out when I first saw it. It NEEDS to be repaired
Tercio Neves I rode it when it moved and it was fierce
I remember seeing the original Yeti during Passholder previews for Everest the weekend before it opened. I definitely remember it being scary and the next time I went to Animal Kingdom (a few years later, since it's my least visited park) I remember thinking "Huh. I feel like that Yeti was a LOT scarier last time." but I didn't really pick up on why. I thought maybe it was because I was 12 when I saw the original, so it was just scarier back then. I didn't even know about the issues until I started working there. I also definitely remember Lil Red and the poachers. Not sure about the Big Red carcass though. I might've seen it.
Shannon Bristol lol I thought that same thing about the yeti this time! He moved when my family & I rode that ride in 2009, not too long after it had been built and the yeti reached out like he was going to grab the train cart and I closed my eyes when I saw him do that so he couldn’t get me! Haha I was 12 at the time. Now, they have an animation of the yeti on HD screens that show him eating the track. Definitely not as scary.
It’s actually just him destroying it, and it is a silhouette and not a screen
My dad works at Disney, so a few months ago he saw little red. He is still living and still in the truck! Little Red is in good condition.
I remember seeing the carcas as a kid. However it didnt really affect me much since I learned a lot about poaching (elephants specifically) in kindergarten. I found it awesome that Disney would want to teach people about such a major issue and it saddens me that its gone now
Jeremy Gabriel did the fake carcass have anymore blood marks or anything on it or just lying there?? Curious? But I’m glad someone took this positively as a child after reading someone going on how it was dark and depressing and such. I feel stopping the poachers and saving little red would make you feel good inside for saving the elephant instead of dark and depressed from seeing the mom elephant dead
A refurb of the yeti animatronic is supposed to be one of the 50 small changes made for the 50th anniversary
Bethany Marsh how is that a small change?
It was announced today that the yeti will be fixed!!!
AdaylnTheLifeOf it wasn’t as of 2019
Frizzball who’s 50th anniversary? Disney World? Animal Kingdom? Or the ride itself? Because if it is the ride’s 50th anniversary, that is a long time from now, since it has only been up for 14 years.
Bidoofus it’s a small change that will cost millions
I was lucky enough to see the rubble fall from the ceiling in the Indiana Jones ride. My Uncle was an employee and we were able to go on the ride before it opened to the public. I went on the ride a couple years ago and didn't even realize that they had removed it until I saw this video.
Steven OC I know your uncle he works at Nintendo as well.
So Disney had an attraction where an elephant was murdered by poachers, and said poachers then shoot at you, then the poachers get arrested, meanwhile the dead elephant's child is now motherless...that's some heavy stuff.
(P.S who thought it was a good idea to make an animatronic part of the entire ride's structure?)
00ngedysys I remember this when I was younger and thought it was real and it made me really upset
it was 4 tons, I think it had to be apart of the entire structure just to get something strong enough to support it.
The Yeti weighs somewhere around 8000 pounds. If he wasn’t actually part of the structure he’d probably fall right trough the floor
00ngedysys A crazy person.
Well thats disney for ya. Its just the elephant counter part of bambi 😶
There is one effect that Disney tried to perfect for years before finally getting it to work properly. In the current iteration of Pirates at Disneyland, there is a waterfall that Davey Jones appears in. This effect has very old roots. There is a semi-successful iteration in the Temple of the Forbidden Eye involving rats but it only has a 1/3 chance of appearing correctly in my experience. That is not the oldest attempt, however.
The effect was originally tried out in the 1983 New Fantasyland update. At the end of Peter Pan Flight, the ships would fly through a waterfall. Unfortunately, the frequency of the ships passing through the mist screen created turbulence that prevented the screen from fully forming and the effect was removed.
The turbulence problem resurfaced in the Temple as well, thus the reason that the transport vehicle "stalls" just before the rats drop. This is to give a chance for the turbulence to die down and the screen to reform, This is moderately successful as sometimes the screen reforms and the edges can be seen swirling.
The final successful attempt is in Pirates of the Caribbean where the slow motion of the boats does not create any turbulence, allowing the mist screen to function 100% of the time.
Fascinating history!
I believe it is supposed to be Black Beard now?
WhattaDay I was there about 3 years ago and I believe it is Blackbeard too. But who knows.
Thank for this info!
it was Davy Jones when I went in 2008, shortly after the effect's addition. I rode it again 12/26/14 and i think it was black beard & the effect was having the "turbulence" issue previously mentioned referring to peter pan at MK. While i hate all of the motion picture add ins, I totally loved the smoke skrim effect!
*THUMB UP FOR YETI FIX*
Hehe,..
Yeti 🖒👣👣
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the yeti's powerful trusts *lenny face*
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Yep, rode it last month. Still a fun one!
They should of kept all of them, but Big Red is very realistic. It might teach kids the meaning of life and not to hurt some animals. They could do an age restricting or something! Why do they always have to take it away??
Edit: THIS IS WHY WE NEED MICROBOTS!!! IT COULD TAKE A WEEK TO MAKE THREE RIDES!!!! SOMEONE MAKE MICROBOTS!!!!!!!!
ii_TheOfficialFoxY Roblox welcome to life kid where nothing is fair and you usually don't get what you want
I went to WDW a few weeks back and while the elephants are definitely gone they still left the whole poacher campsite up with elephant tusks and such
ii_TheOfficialFoxY Roblox I agree.
Catmandu101 the whole point was to show us how fucked up it is. it wasn’t an extra. it WAS the ride. that’s what was supposed to happen. welcome to the real world where shit is fucked up and goes south hella fast. scary thing is while pussy moms got what they wanted in disney, the real animals were still having this happen to them
Alright hiro xD
I knew that the Yeti had been fully functioning!!! I remember seeing a documentary or special and freaking out over it (I adore animatronics) but every time I mention it, no one else seemed to remember. It used to be my favorite part. I also remember the Kilimanjaro ride back when they still had Little Red and the jeep scene.
I know there are a few other effects that weren't on this list... but in an amazing twist of irony, even I can't remember what they are!
Hannah O'Neil I also have veg memories of the old safari plot
At Disneyland, I know there is an animatronic jumping fish that used to be intended for Nature's Wonderland that still sometimes randomly works on it's own, but it is no longer taken care of by Disney... Ummm... After that, I am not sure.
Kali River Rapids is like 80% no longer working. The jeep falling in the water, fire scenes were toned down, I forget what else but I just remember that when riding it compared to the old 1990's promo VHS tape I have, there were many things no longer working.
Hannah O'Neil my first time at Disneyland was in 2006 and I'm just glad i saw it in working order. though i only went on that ride once since i haven't been back to Disneyland. But it was cool!
Ctina Vlogs~ world not land more pacifically the animal kingdom
The parks are financially stuggling, because of their tickets are too high. Lower it enough, so they get more guest, but not too little where they'll face a similar problem. They need to find a right balance.
i remember the little red and big red ride when i was little. i completely forgot about that ride but i remember seeing the dead elephant and all
Imagine the parents who complained. I’d hate to be those their kids.
Yeah
It's a shame all these are broken, but I guess that's the thing with animatronics. I know for instance even the shark in jaws (called Bruce if memory serves me correctly) malfunctioned all the time which is why its shown so little. Still, I'd love to get a close look through a ride at some point. :-P
Your memory is right it is called Bruce
James Ray yup, his name was Bruce! Steven himself named the shark after his lawyer!
Also before the Haunted Mansion was officially opened back when there were concepts for it being a ride through, there was a concept for a "ghostly temperature drop" and footsteps in the neverending hallway scene. If you look closely at the walls as you're passing through the speakers are still in the structure. They axed the concept though when the doombuggy concept was implemented because it didn't make sense for the effect to only happen to a select few people going through as the doombuggies run on a constant circuit.
There is also the actor dressed in a suit of armor meant to scare patrons which was scrapped not long after being implemented into the mansion. And I have yet to confirm it but there's an odd piece of construction on the exterior of the mansions property and it's said that there was originally supposed to be an underground walk-through catacomb that was scrapped before the mansion opened.
If the "odd piece" is the crypts with all the names on, this is actually an emergency exit. The interior door for the exit is in the portrait hallway on the left side.
Psycho-Princess I wish it was there cause that would be amazing. But they got rid of it😔
I was lucky enough to have seen the Yeti fully operational the year that Expedition Everest opened up. I had no idea that it wasn't working anymore until just now. Now I feel bad for the big guy! :(
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I remember the Yeti waving its arm when I went in 2008 but I guess it wasn't fully functional. It's sad because I love Expedition Everest, it's one of my favorites.
sailorqueen2013 I used to work Everest and it still had A show days in 2008. It definitely teetered off and on between the shows, but by the time I left the company it was solely in B show.
I remember breaking down and crying at the theme park when my parents told me the Yeti was not 'clawing at the cart'
ah, the Ice Drop; thing sucked because the ice would freeze together and require cast members to constantly go and break it up.
Every time I try to explain why they don't fix the Yeti.....I get told how wrong I am...thanks for backing it up!
Thank YOU for watching!
Kane Legacy because Disney never throws anything away. Company policy. Sometimes they dig things up from years ago and find new ways to use it. No matter what department it is Disney never throws anything away.
Because to repair it they'd have to get pretty deep into the rock facade that the Yeti was mounted on because that's where a good chunk of the supports and mechanics are. Which would require a fair chunk of closed time for the ride and the ride is one of the most popular ones in it's park. Once there's a new popular attraction to draw crowds away from Expedition Everest they can consider closing it for the required repairs and refurbishing to bring Yeti back.
It's not just the Yeti itself that needs to be fixed, it's its foundation and support structure. They would have to remove part of the mountain and the track to fix it.
SylYasha it is operating but they moved it to a easier support spot I went 2 years ago saw it moving
I was part of the crew that worked at The Great Movie ride maby months prior to its debut. Scripts and effects were constantly changing. The Footlight Parade issues were exactly as descibed. In fact, I'd estimate it only worked properly about 10% of the time. The full effect involved each platform layer rotating in alternate directions, fountain effects within it, and bubble effects all over. Honestly, it seemed a very simple effect to be ao unreliable.
The Wizard of Oz area was especially problematic because of timing issues: Disney simply could not get permission to use as much time as was needed. The intro was originally the Kansas tornado (which ended up as Fantasia), and the setpiece was originally mord than a half minute longer. The trailer was removed from the cue for the same reason.
Michael if you really did work on The Great Movie Ride are you sad that they're removing it for some stupid Mickey Mouse thing!!!!!! 😭
I hope they can get the yeti back up and running. Sure it may take a while and cost a lot to rebuild the mountain (well apart of it) but it would bring a lot more people in.
I remember posting that first video of the falling rubble to micechat years ago! I paused and re watched those frames countless times and was so sure it was the falling rubble effect. I can't believe all these years later I'm seeing it again here on this video! From what I remember, nobody on micechat seemed to agree that it WAS the falling rubble. Thank you for posting this!! I fee vindicated.
Your second video of the falling rubble is amazing footage! I've been looking for a video like that for over a decade.
Wow!! Talk about blast from the past! I remember searching through MiceChat, and finding someone (evidently you) posting that video so many years back!! My nerdy self had dreamed of being able to see that effect for myself, and yours was the first proof I'd ever seen of that effect.
You are more than vindicated my friend! That second video was due to many hours of searching through countless youtube "Indy" POV videos. In a way, you inspired this Disney lost attraction effects video, as it was the Indy Ice effect that started this whole thing!
Yesterworld Entertainment this made my whole day! So funny how this came full circle! I'm a huge nerd for this stuff and glad I could inspire such a well done video.
This is all I have ever wanted in a RUclips channel. Amazingly fascinating information which I used to research for hours, all presented in a nicely edited and paced video. Love your content, keep it up!
It was 10 years ago, back in April 2007, but I definitely saw Lil Red and if I remember right I also saw the Yeti before they were removed. Of course, the memories are hazy having just been a kid then.
Same man
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE FIX THE YETI lol
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Rumor as of today that it will be fixed!!!!!
It can’t be fixed. In order for it to be fixed properly, Disney would have to tear down over half of the mountain and track, fix the yeti, then rebuild almoast the whole ride. #bethankful
just found your channel recently and I really think it will get big fast! I'm a huge fan of theme park technology and especially Disneyland history, so by the looks of it, your channel is one I am all for! Great content dude, keep it up!!!
Wow, thank you for your kind words! Someone like you taking time out of your day to comment on something like that really means a lot to me, and truly makes my day. I'm aiming to balance my love and passion of theme parks, gaming, and movie history into content everyone can love and enjoy. I think you'll love my next theme park additon ;)
Yesterworld Entertainment - How come that *MGM* theme park recreated the *"Footlight Parade"* (one of my favorite Busby Berkeley movies, by the way) scene, if "Footlight Parade" was a *Warner Brothers* movie???
Great video! I got to ride Kilimanjaro for the cast member preview and it really did not sit well with me. Not seeing the dead elephant, but the fact that the ride touts all completely real animals and then ends with an animatronic. It really sent mixed messages and I was glad to (finally) see little Red go, so when they say all the animals are real, they really are.
Thanks so much! That's so cool you were among the few to see it, but I completely understand why it didn't sit well with people including yourself. I can imagine for a child, having seen all live animals up to that point then showing a lifelike "dead" elephant would be quite unsettling.
When went on that ride back in 2010, I think, I didn't know that the baby elephant was animatronic, so I was always wondering why nobody, was making a big deal about keeping a baby elephant locked up in one place for so long.
Disney Imagineer Terri Hardin and I visited Shanghai Disneyland in July 2017. She wanted to take the park in and deeply appreciate the Imagineers' work. She told me to go to new attractions immediately because you get to see everything the Imagineer's intended for the attraction working entirely. Past the first year, she told me, and it's anyone's guess what you'll get.
I was able to witness the falling ice. It wasn't filmed but they did it ONCE in 2011.
I remember going on Expedition Everest shortly after it opened and seeing the fully functioning Yeti. It scared me so bad, I actually cried. I went back in May of 2016, and, although I knew what happened to it, I was still disappointed at the change.
Camille Daaé is it weird that I've been on Expedition Everest before and I've NEVER NOTICED the Yeti? I mean, I did ride it after the Yeti was dormant, but I seriously didn't notice it.
I remember seeing the yeti being advertised on the Disney channel either the 411 or 365 segment
Those people offended by the elephant need to take the blindfold off their eyes. Welcome to life.
Welcome to life? Some of us go to Disney to escape life and pretend the world is as we wished it was
Silver Amaryllis that's what I thought
Conrad of Montferrat That is true. But a dream is important because we work hard to make it real, and to do that, we need to see what the world is.
Lol what? They’re animatronics.... it’s lame. And totally takes you out of the ride.
I would hate to know what the though about The Lion King.
I went to Disneyland when I was 5 years old in 1967. I distinctly remember the original Tiki Hut with the Barker birds and original demi gods. That attraction, The Pirates of the Caribbean and the Small World ride were my all time favorites.
I remember the original Kilamanjaro safaris!! I never knew that's what happened. I liked the original story :/
I love the videos from movies that you choose to loosely depict what you're describing. You have hilarious and great choices thrown in your videos which makes them all so great on top of the info you're giving us.
Thank you, I had sincerely hoped people such as yourself would enjoy this aspect of my videos :)
I swear that stuff in the Indiana Jones queue had stuff that used to work too. There a sign in there a that says "Warning: Bats" and I feel like touching those golden rocks would do something. Also with holes in the ceiling and I feel like stepping in certain tiles would trigger spikes to descend. Also I remember a part where if you pull on a rope carrying something, some guy under will complain about it
There was a bamboo pole that if you pulled on it, you would hear a loud crash and the spikes would start to lower from the ceiling but it hasn't worked in years! Also miss the free Mara font decoding cards!
Aaaah the rope! It’s my favorite part of the line lmao. My aunt didn’t know it was a joke and told my cousin not to pull on it but then I did and he was so confused because I literally did what she told him not to do. Lol I had to explain that it was allowed to be pulled because it was a joke.
I never knew the spiked would descend if you stepped on the diamonds! I always stepped on them and nothing happened. Maybe it’s an older feature or at a specific Disneyland, the only one I’ve ever been to is the California one, so I wouldn’t know anything about the others. Pretty neat!
I believe the spike effect was removed due to safety concerning tall guests. Disneyland CA is also the only installation of "Forbidden Eye", WDW has an allegedly copied layout in Dinosaur (Countdown to Extinction) @ Animal Kingdom.
Definitely yes. I got to go on it very soon after it opened (waited in line for well over 2 hours, lol - totally worth it!) and remember seeing the falling rubble and all of those awesome things in the queue. Man, I wish they would fix some of those effects, especially the ceiling rubble. So awesome.
The Yeti would be a nice reclaim, for sure. I know that you didn't include it here, but my biggest gripe at the WDW parks is the loss of Snow White's Scary Adventures. The biggest lost to the parks ever, I think!
Wow, i had completely forgotten about Lil and Big Red! I definitely remember Lil Red being there when I was a kid, and I'm pretty sure I remember Big Red's body too, but I don't remember the jeep.
Before the poachers would nearly kill big red (after they removed the old one) I would kill them all. Never, NEVER mess with these beautiful animals!
Nobody noticed Harambe at 3:21?
yes
Elizabeth Starks i did
Elizabeth Starks it's a location in animal kingdom
It's a swahili term
Disney had Harambe years before it became a lame meme online
I did my college program at DAK and seeing Lil Red when I'd go to work every now and then used to be a highlight of my day.
3:22 the name is back to haunt us
Royale Clasher ikr
I LOVE THE HATBOX GHOST
HE MY MOST FAVORITE GHOST IN THE MANSION I WANT ALL HIS MERCEDICES
I had a strange experience with my family on the Disneyland pirates ride. We rode the ride twice in a row. On the second time, the pirate balancing on the dock and boat holding a stack of stuff was gone. Almost as if the animatronic had been removed.
Can somebody explain this to me? Because me and my family are so confused!
Numerous attractions at Disney have rotating animatronics every hour. Not always as big as a full person but there are some
Visited as a kid and saw the rewritten but functional version of the safari, and saw the fully functional yeti. Because of the yeti, that is still my favorite Disney ride to this day, but more than a decade later I had no idea it hasn't been seen since.
You deserve wayyyy more subs! Your videos are AWESOME!
Words like that mean so much to me, thank you so much! You made my day with this comment :)
Oh My God, the Hat Box ghost gives me nightmares
I saw the falling debris on opening week! Believe it or not, it fell in the room when you looked into Maras eyes as well. Brown rocks would fall and smash. Obviously some colored ice that would melt and be recycled. I've been claiming this forever, and this is the first video I've seen about it.
I saw the the last one version of little red
I remember the Kilimanjaro safari poacher chase, I was actually looking forward to going back this year and experiencing that again. Knowing now that they took it out, is it just a "safari tour" now? Or what?
Princess Sonic it is but the older version was better
I thought the mannequin tiered cake was awkward.
Awesome information! I consider myself a connoisseur of theme parks, but you schooled me haha.
Thank you very much, I consider that the highest of compliments!
NickJRusso ditto!!!
I remember seeing the rubble falling on the Indiana Jones ride, but I rode it in the early months. Honestly, the scene is impressive without it. The musical queues, the fire, the feeling of the whole ride. Love it. I also remember the spikes in the queue and being an obnoxious teenager, hitting the bamboo pole(which also worked to make it move if I remember correctly) as I was leaving to make the spikes fall down on the people behind me when the line was going fast. x3
I remember the Animal Kingdom Safari ride with the poachers during a visit in '09. I thought it was pretty cool, and had a real world message for people. The jeep chase, the rocking bridge, and the animatronic baby elephant at the end was all integrated very well. What made it cooler, was our driver had an acting voice that sounded like Shaggy from Scooby Doo!
During our last visit in '15, we went on the ride again, and it just wasn't the same... it felt like we were just driving through a zoo.
Loving your videos man. Keep it up! I can't wait for more!
Thanks Kayla! More are definitely on the way!
Kayla Grimm your hot
Raymond Johnston ur weird
Speaking of the Safari ride, i remember riding the ride and getting really sad when i thought they got big red, but being happy we stopped the fuckin poachers from getting the baby. Thanks for bringing that memory up!
Edit: and in expedition everest, i deff remember the yeti actually swinging at me!
the headless ghost really reminds me of the babadook
Fun fact from an engineer who worked at wdw, they could have fixed the yeti during the time the parks were closed during lockdown, but surprise surprise disney didnt want to spend the money. One could argue they were worried because they were in the midst of uncertainty. But lets be clear. Disney had the money, they had the RARE opportunity of downtime to work on it, AND still chose not to. For that reason i highly doubt the yeti will ever be fixed, even with imagineer backing. Its sad.
i went earlier this year, maybe in april ? and the indiana jones ride was closed down for renovations.. yknow, maybe, just maybe, it's getting fixed ?
What Disneyland?
I went to Disney World in 2013 and I remember the yeti working... It was pretty freaky how realistic it looked!
I can verify with 100% that my Mother when riding the Haunted Mansion on a 'Soft Opening' that she spotted the Hatbox Ghost. It wasn't as the publisher of this video said that is was in 'Cast Member viewings' that they deemed the effect a failure.
I actually got to see the yeti working. My family was there opening week of Everest. It was an amazingly wonderful (and slightly terrifying) effect. I do really hope they fix it one day.
Your voice is very calming.
As a film lover I'm sad not only by the Footlight Parade segment never working in my lifetime, but also the tear down of the Great Movie Ride entirely. Most people didn't appreciate it, but it was one of my favorite rides.
I'm not surprised by the complaints regarding Big Red, there's leaving an impact on kids on the dangers of poaching, but then there's ruining a family's whole day by having the kids cry over the dead elephant. Disney is expensive people, parents just want to take their kids their to have fun. I wish they'd kept the second iteration that kept the poachers but omitted the corpse, but oh well.
The Haunted Mansion was my favorite thing at Disney Land. That and an Evening with President Lincoln and the Matorhorn!!! Brings back a LOT of great childhood memories💖💖
I remember as a little kid going on the Small World. When you entered the ocean, bubbles would start up. But now, there isn't any bubbles. When I ask people about it they don't remember. Am I tripping?
this guy sounds EXACTLY like the samuraiguitarist on RUclips. I'm convinced it's the same guy
#FIXTHEYETI!!!
Lol at least we have a disco yeti for now xD
Brooke Wolfnight fix the yeti!
I was extremely lucky and got to see The Yeti in A mode when I was just ten years old and Expedition Everest had been open for no longer than two months!!! The Yeti was absolutely amazing and I remember looking up and being right under his arm when he did his initial huge arm sweep!!! The taller people behind me all ducked fearing that they would accidentally hit their heads on his hand!!! It was absolutely perfect and I am holding Joe Rohde to his promise of fixing my favorite animatronic on my absolute favorite Disney ride!!!!!
I was there the summer of 2007 to witness the Yeti. It was truly a sight to behold especially since that ride has you going all over the place, the last thing you expect to see is a big ass animatronic yeti.
I think videos like these make me want to work with animatronics in my future.
Please do! I think there is so much potential in future advanced animatronics that is being overshadowed and unexplored by the ease and cost effectiveness of screen based attractions.
Great video, I loved it and learned many things! Thank you very much.
Why a conveyor belt for the falling ice, tho? Why not the ice machine directly above the hole (with a trap)?
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! It does seem a little over complicated doesn't it? My guess would be that it took multiple batches of ice to create enough ice needed, and the conveyor belt was a way to collect it all before dropping it down. Perhaps if it was just directly above it would clump together.
Yeah, it makes sense. I never thought such effect could have existed, and it's both clever and over-complicated.
Thanks for your answer!
I remember seeing the yeti move because I was terrified of the ride and the one time I looked up was at the yeti and it freaked me out. I kept my jead down the whole rest of the ride. I was very young.
This has got to be one of the coolest channels on RUclips!! Love these videos please keep them coming!!
I loved the hat boxed man part of the haunted mansion
I need a time machine just to see the original version of all these rides since these are my favourite ones lol. Great video.
Elle Calladine Well you were born as a different person in the past and you did go Disneyland and see everything
I remember when the Yeti was fully functioning, and I remember when only the arm worked (limited motion) and it was cooler but it was constantly breaking down. The ride would be down for half of or the full day, often after you'd waited in line for a long time. It was a huge relief when they just turned it off, cause it's one of my favorite rides and you'd hardly get to ride it
I rode the original safari during the cast meme WR preview. I liked it that way best. I also really liked the now removed transportation boats around the park
Where did that footage at 3:50 where the guy goes, "THere's Little Red! We rescued Little Red from those Posturers after they killed his mom!" come from?
The driver on the safari jeep.
WTF AT DISNEY LAND THEY GET A FULL INDIANA JONES RIDE AND ALL DISNEY WORLD GETS IS A STUNT SHOW
Do you realize you have 4 goddamn theme parks over there?
We have 2.
JPMoney hey!!! Be greatful that I Evan bother waste time of my day I have temples to be discovered just to give you a show
JPMoney Disney Land is the original after all
JPMoney our park Disneyland is the first so
I witnessed the Yeti when it used to move when I was a kid back in 2006, I remember it scaring my younger sister so much she didn't ride any roller coasters for a really long time
I wonder where is the footage of the slaughtered Big Red prop?
The Hat-Box Ghost in Goonies was the best part of this video.
such a quality video!!!!
Thank you so much!