@@cdeleon3494 I’m not saying it would happen but imagine kawhi miss half the season and the clippers are ass next year and okc ends up getting a edgecombe , Hugo or Nolan 😂😂
U don't know how happy I am right now if the clippers are a bottom seed this upcoming season that means the clippers pick is gonna be a lottery pick in 2025 for the thunder which means okc would be in the Cooper flagg sweepstakes this is what the clippers get for being a greedy bitch and a poverty franchise
Yeah never going to happen i heard that for the Joel for the past 8-7 years sorry being little pessimistic but im I need to be honest and not blind optimist
@@Ronsss-ew8wshe wasn’t healthy last year and still put up 30 ppg. If he does that and PG averages more than the 6 ppg we got from Tobias we might be on to something
As long as they try to make it work with a regular season MVP level Embiid they are going to have to roll the dice and hope the 10% chance he and/or the team are healthy for the playoffs happens this year or the next couple years (although 10% is generous. Has he EVER been healthy in the playoffs?)
The biggest concern is the fact PG is 34, the exact age we see 90% of superstars like PG fall off big time either due to general decline or injuries. Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Paul Pierce, and many more hit the wall at 34. Philly better hope he's built like KD and Lebron, Celtics and Knicks are still gonna beat them either way.
It’s different nowadays. Back then, former stars struggled to take a backseat and couldn’t adapt. Today, stars/good players are now embracing lesser roles as they age and “slow down.” Look at LeBron, KD, Harden, Westbrook, Conley, KLove, Horford, Draymond, Lowry, etc. Difference with PG is he is still producing at virtually the same rate that he’s always been. Sure he may have lost a bit of athleticism but he is still doing what PG does. Plus his game is likely to age extremely well.
I ain't gonna pay no bets on Phili to win anything, that's for damn sure. P.s. I don't see any rings for Morey pulling shit like this (giving out giant bags) ... Morey was gonna give Harden another max in Houston prior, remember that ... talk about bad contracts. Morey more of a snake oil salesman type spending (dumb) ownership money than he is any real basketball savant. He another Billy King type.
Tucker don't forget, Paul George wanted to go to the Warriors first. The Warriors tried to do a trade for Paul George, and the Clippers would've gotten assets back in return, but the Clippers turned it down. So that makes the situation even worse for them
Ballmer made the right decision for rejecting the warriors offer. Warriors wanted the clippers to take on two bad contracts. Ballmer made the right decision for letting George walk. Derrick jones and porter jr can replace a 35 years old George . I disagree with tucker with why not blow it up. Clippers don’t have their draft picks .
@@ViewlessDRH clippers Just signed 2 role players in jones and porter jr for a lot cheaper than what Chris Paul and Wiggins are making. It’s suicidal if you take on their bad contract
@@fabmyride5181 what's the point in even playing if you're going to be a shell of yourself and lose anyway? To win, they will need their superstars at their best, it ain't gonna happen with them at 60 or 80%
@@ericg4626 Embiid will be 34 by the end of the contract. That's pretty old for most big men in the NBA, especially ones with Embiid's injury track record. I'd say Philly's window is 2 years with or without tying up the money in a PG max contract.
I don't think people understand the ramifications of the new CBA yet. Beams which are up against the cap will not be able to make trades moving forward just look at Chicago Bulls they are trying to give away Zach and a first-round pick and no one is willing to take on the that contract
I think people are drastically overreacting to the CBA. Look at Boston, NY and Minnesota. If you have a contender you just pay the money and eat the "penalties" that aren't going to effect you anyway The bigger impact is on: 1) a team like Phoenix or Philly or the Heatles or KG Celtics who want to get a big three now and then to fill out the roster later. The new CBA removes the mechanisms for doing that. 2) a team like LA who is a quasi-contender but can't just throw money at the problem by packaging two players for someon like LaVine The new CBA rewards proper _team_ building while limiting how long teams can stay at the top The issue right now is teams got trapped between the old world and new. Boston and Minnesota threaded that needle. (Although it may blow up in Minnesota's face still.) Phoenix and Denver did not.
Clippers realized they are not good enough to win the title with PG he only averaged 19pts in the playoffs and if they paid him the max they would have zero flexibility to improve the team.
@@RD-zx6py They weren't winning with him either. At least now they can change the look of their team with a lot less restriction. They're draft picks in 7 years won't be frozen either, which not a lot of people were talking about.
@@Yonbu fine. Then blow it up. They should have just admitted it had failed and started trading away assets rather than trying to lowball one guy out of 3 - and it was a lowball offer as proven by how quickly he massively surpassed it for a contending team.
@@RD-zx6py PG was not lowballed. He was offered the same deal Kawhi got. He just didn't want to take it because of the over 38 rule which affects his next contract. It makes no sense for the Clippers to blow it up when OKC owns their picks. Some of ya'll just be talking without understanding why things played out the way they did. PG is a really good player but Clippers would have been stuck in cap hell for the next 4 years with a team they can't improve in any way if they had chosen to max him out. Kawhi took slightly less than the max. Harden took a massive paycut as well. PG is the one that didn't want to play ball.
There's nobody the Sixers can't beat in the Eastern conference if they're fully healthy? The Celtics and Knicks have entered the chat. Celtics have so much playoff experience on that team now. If you added up the total number of playoff games played by all players on Boston's starting 5, I don't think it can be matched. Yes, most of it is Tatum, Brown and Holiday, but on top of that you've got the fact that everybody on the organization knows what it took to win a championship last year, and they essentially did that without Porzingis and with Tatum shooting poorly.
Lets be real 76ers anit beating celtics in the playoffs period pg13 is a playoff choker just like embild harden it's not gonna workout the 76ers will have a good season but will end just like the dallas cowboys
@@Aaronwise253 that's assuming that embiid even makes it to the playoffs all his flopping and flailing is catching up to him. Unlike teams like the Celtics who's injury prone players are good but not important to winning if embiid goes 6ers shit the bed
@@Aaronwise253remember PG led the clippers to their first WCF and he’s not even the best player on the 6ers, don’t over estimate the Celtics because they broke through the year EVERYBODY was hurt, against seriously comp, them boys fold up, the East is open, nobody has a leg up on anyone between them three team js…
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think PG was more important than The Klaw for the Clippers. Although he was hurt, he was less injured than Leonard, and with him, they had their best playoff success (not much, but they are the Clippers, after all). But hey, they paid Harden (one year is a player option)…
@@MrE_ they were my pick for winning it all this season because klaw was looking healthy and great. But look at what happened. There is no hope for this core.
They got Embiid, but that's literally it. They got a center that can't stay of the court, and when he can he can't lead his team past the second round. He's a reg season stat merchant
I like PG in Philly, they need somebody to show up during playoffs, Harden wasn't going to be it, Embiid messes up every play offs and then throws somebody under the bus. Every. Damn. Time. Good for them, I like it.
-- PG plays great defense (over Harden). It is an upgrade over Harden. Philly didn't need scoring in Harden b/c Embiid and Maxey can fill that void. PG in the playoffs just needs win 2 games scoring wise and do a lot more defensively (than Harden).
Embiid's Knees are made of glass, this is the kind of all in nove they needed to make. If it works they are probably Championship contenders (I dont believe they are Celtics/Knicks tier but really good). If not, they can Just simply blow it up, which was a option for pretty much the last 3 years For the Clippers, I Just simply dont get it, specially since OKC still owns the next few picks
I agree. It's really sad but because of his glass knees, and nothing else, I don't think Embiid is ever going to win a championship regardless of who else is on the team and how healthy they are.
@@coopercourtney6459 Of course, the "fully healthy Embiid" excuse comes out every year. Knicks didn't have their second best player on the court, did you somehow forget about that? The Embiid/Maxey might still be the strongest duo in the east, but frankly I'm still not seeing this team get past the 2nd round.
Smell that? That’s the smell of desperation. 90% chance this blows up in Philly’s face, this contract won’t be able to be traded within 2 years. There is that 10% chance they make a serious run, but Boston will be there the whole time.
Fair but like he said there was really no other option and they have one of the best players in the league on their team who is aging and has still never even been to the conference finals. They had to do something and trying is at least better than continuing on with whatever was going on before
If by some miracle Embiid is healthy (it's not happening) they might match up well against Boston, who are thin at center if Porzingiz isn't playing and 38 year old Horford has to play high 20s or more minutes.
Not just Boston. Pacers, Knicks, and Magic all have super bright futures, and the Bucks are no slouches either. Also, can never count out the Heat. They've shown time and time again that their organization gets it done. West is very strong, but the east ain't exactly terrible.
It is stupid for almost 30 teams. For the Sixers, it's a necessity. You have to think of it as a 2 or 3 year deal. That's about as much as Embiid is probably willing to give the team before wanting to try to get his championship elsewhere. Of all the options, he was the best. He fills a need. He played well last year. The Sixers still have their assets for a deal at the trade deadline as well.
@@aaryadani2090 I thought Tuck is calling 76ers stupid, but he is scolding Clips. And it is awfully stupid take. LAC were paying generously PG13 in his prime, and got no finals appearance. Why should they pay him max money after his prime. It is would very stupid. But Tuck is so attached to big names, even of they don't bring success. I get 76ers, bc they cleared their payroll before this season.
@@mareklame8589 oh I agree with that. For having a basketball focused channel, not understanding the rules of the CBA and how picks can be demoted is kinda crazy. Clips need to hold out for a bit and then fully blow it up. OKC isn't gonna take Kawhi and Philly can't either. How can they get their picks?
@@aaryadani2090 I believe LAC wanted to continue their project for 2 years, so they don't need picks until 2027. Kawhi has 3 years more. Harden got 70M/2y. Givin PG13 4 years would mess it up. I suspect if they won't win a chip, in 2026 the Beard is off the books, and last year of Kawhi's contract is easily moveable to some desperate team. Maybe for some pick. Also it is LA, if they clear the space in 2026, they could attract new stars in FA.
I don't understand how any Embiid team can be called a contender, there's way too much evidence that proves they aren't legit and even when Embiid is healthy all he's done is underperform and throw the blame onto others while being a dirty player
Paul George has officially become overrated. I don’t get why teams keep handing out big contracts to non winners. Demar derozan, Paul George, Tobias Harris. When have these players ever won anything significant?
Lmao don't fckn bring tobias in there. He didn't even make an all-star team. Yeah contracts are ridiculously high but it's the norm right now... And philly is desperate to win so overpaying is the only way as Philly blew it several times through the draft anyway... 😅😂
You don’t base a players skill on their team’s success, it makes no sense to not give a guy a contract because he was good but on a bad team. 62iq take
Maybe they have watched the team fall short every year with Paul George as their main star?. Maybe they were being realistic about what Paul George would look like 4 years from now? Maybe they actually made a pretty smart move? They still have a couple of stars on the team and probably enough talent to do as well as they did last year. I don't know their financial situation but they did clear some cap space for the first time in a long time.😊
I think it's simpler. Clippers wanted to go under the luxury tax, but didn't want to decline PG outright as that would damage signing future free agents, so they offered 3 years hoping another team will pick him up.
Idk. I don’t think they necessarily wanted to go under the tax. I think they didn’t want to be in the second apron in the first year. 2nd apron teams are going to find it difficult to maneuver. I’m almost sure if the Clippers could have gotten a large trade exception for PG, they would have had him opt in then trade into Philly’s cap space.
Clippers wild for not paying him the extra years but with all the BS PG pulled and still left is a horrible look for him. They gave him all that money after he played like crap in the playoffs and blew a 3-1 lead, and signed pretty much every player he wanted
honestly, i dont think philly with george is better than the clips with george. they have absolutely no one but paul reed besides their big 3. the clips had np, zubac, mann.
I think you missed the point that they tried it with George and it didn't work out. He is very injury prone and in my opinion is extremely overrated. He hasn't done anything since leaving the pacers. The clippers should have never sent all their picks to okc for him anyway. I think signing him then trying to trade him aswell wouldn't have got that much attention from teams wanting to take on a max contract. Harden, kawhi and George are all too simular players and makes sense letting one of them walk. They now have Harden and Kawhi at under their value ( Even though they both don't want to play lol). The steal in all of this is signing Westbrook again for 4 million. No idea how his value is so low. 1/13 the amount of pg. Makes no sense.
I'm pretty sure Clippers traded for PG because that was Kawhi's demand for signing with them. Yeah it looks awful now that Shai has become an MVP candidate, but they just needed one healthy run to get to the finals at least once. Everything really is on Kawhi being injured every year, even Shai couldn't save the Clippers with that max contract stuck on the bench.
As a Clipper fan, it's sad to see George walk for nothing. On the other hand, he's a good player but he had the tendency to disappear in the playoffs. After 5 years, I think it's time to attempt to change things up and move on.
James Harden: Darryl Morey is A Liar! Darryl Morey: I'm A Liar? Okay James. Say Less. Enjoy ClipperLand. Darryl Morey is a totally Bonafide Savage for this!
its honestly hilarious how many of you feel like you understand why the clippres did what they did. the new CBA forced the clippers in a tough situation. extending paul george took the clippers over the second apron, which is a huge deal because they can't do anything else with their roster after that point. trading paul geroge to the warriors, especially for a package without kuminga also took them over the second apron. why would the clippers kill all of their potential flexibility for andrew wiggins??? if the new CBA was not in place, the clippers would likely have no problem paying Paul George his current contract, but the clippers figured that they did not have the personnel or flexibility to win a championship, so they really had no other choice but to leave him for nothing.
I don’t understand why anyone agreed to the CBA. It hurts big teams and stars and doesn’t really seem to benefit mid/lower level players. It seems to only benefit the front offices of lower level teams.
Most who complained here still didn't answer Tucker's question about who's the money is going to if not PG. "How to save on electricity?" "Don't use it" dumb AF
'losing Paul George for absolutely nothing'...are you kidding me?...they now have 50-plus million a year to get one or more players, ones whose contracts may not look bad in the final two years.....in the 5 years with the Clippers, he's played 263 games...that's less than 53 games a year, or almost a million per game...they haven't won enough with him, so what's the big deal?...
They literally explained in the statement - they were not going to give anyone, Kawhi or harden anymore than 3 years. They never bluffed. The trade flopped and they were cutting their losses, the new CBA made it harder. Actually look stuff up for once
As a former clippers fan, this makes me so happy. I've hated them since they traded for that piece of garbage petulant child James Harden. Not only did he not get a max extension, but he will never be in contention for a ring. Karma works in mysterious and amazing ways
I don't think Paul George is a good fit because PG plays best in isolation plays and needs the ball in his hands like Embiid to be effective. Problem is there is only one ball and you know Embiid is going to get the ball 75% of the time. I would not be surprised if PG's scoring average drops by 25% because PG will be the 3rd option. At the Clippers, PG was either the #1 or #2 option. Sixers would have been better off trading for Anunoby, Mikal Bridges or Klay Thompson.
PG is in the 73rd percentile as an iso scorer but 94th percentile as a spot up shooter and 95th percentile as a cutter. He'll be fine off ball He's also 95th as a PnR ball handler which means Maxey can play off ball more and Maxey is insanely good off ball. He shoots 45% on spot up threes and is maybe the best guy in the league attacking closeouts. He makes split second decisions and gets into the paint before his defender knows what happened Although I'm not sure Oubre makes quite as much sense now. He needs to make shots because teams just won't guard him in the playoffs.
I don't understand why so many people hate that deal while they were hype for Lillard to the Bucks. They have the same age, a huge contract, and are both injury prone but philly gave no asset to get Georges while the Bucks lost Holiday and 3 first round.
The fact that LAC could have had Kuminga and picks and instead got nothing is wild. Even more wild considering that Philly owns the LAC picks AND you know they are one of the key teams that could sign him. LAC is going to be stuck in mediocrity for years before they can rebuild.
It’s not just that the contract will be bad in 2 years, it’s that it will also be bad NOW. He’s been injury prone the past 5 years and will take up cap space away from depth, something the Sixers have struggled with since embiids first playoff year
This isn't stupid. This makes the most sense for Philly by far. Its win now time, and there's no telling how long Joels body is gonna hold up. PG is in a perfect position as the 3rd option. Just because you can't wrap your mind around it, doesn't mean its a stupid or a bad move
Even better is that the 76ers own 2 of the Clippers picks as well, so not only did they improve their roster, they might actually get some really good players from the draft in a few years.
Please make a video explaining the new CBA and how the provisions impact team decisions. The Blazers recent trade was seen by many here as needed due to the new CBA (reduced salary by 16 million). A lot of people comment about the new CBA impacts on team decision making.
One of the Dumbest Clippers moves. PG is more reliable than Kawhi and will guarantee a playoff run. Just sign PG to a 4 year contract and if it doesn’t work out you can always trade him later.
Yes I don't understand all the love for PG. He hasn't done anything since the Pacers. Clippers have seen it first hand and let him walk. Where clippers made the mistake was trading for him. They gave up way too much.
As a Clippers fan I can tell you we don’t give af about PG leaving I Atleast recognize that our championship window is closed and did y’all see PG in the playoffs good riddance
The Clippers trading SGA and all those first round picks for Paul George might bring the Thunder a championship. Meanwhile, the Clippers didn't even get 1 first round pick for Paul George? 👀🤣🤣🤣
THe only choices were to concede the East and blow it up - trade Embiid - start over with Maxey. Or, sign George. It was a binary decision. SO make the choice - the amount/length of the contract was the only way to get George so it's not worth even discussing that part. So you pay that, or, blow it up and start over. And totally agree - Sixers called the Clippers bluff.
1. Philly won't be healthy 2. That 3rd and 4th year of the PG contract are going to be painful 3. Philly won't be healthy 4. This should force the Clippers to be sensible and fleece some desperate teams by trading Kawhi and Harden 5. Philly won't be healthy
Why are we acting like Paul George was the Clippers 2nd best player? We have Kawhi Leonard and James Harden. Paul George has and will continue to be a better in theory player because you cannot name a year when Paul George overcame the odds and overachieved unless you're counting returning from injury.
It ain’t stupid only if your PG you left a situation to be in the same situation again in a worse city but yeah turning your back On your hometown knowing the CBA rules is selfish especially when harden and Westbrook even Bron understood that
Pg got a 4th year, if he truely wanted a title he could have signed for much less with a contender. Clippers dont want to give him the 4th year. 50 million + is life changing money.
My point is please tell me a better situation that’s available right now. Other than try and make something happen considering they don’t have a lot of draft picks down the line? Other than the money which they shouldn’t have a problem reconciling if they exhausted a lot of funds.. what’s better out there? Win now is the mindframe, I’m not sitting through two and three years for something to happen and there’s nobody coming out of college that looks even remotely impressive just like this year straight so what are you gonna do? Or what would you do? Let me hear that.
PG has always been overrated. Very good player but many in media overhyped him. Appears to be a solid fit with 76ers but lets see the final product on the court!
This is a good contract for PG13. What I’d like to know is why are you just putting the Knicks and 76ers over the Pacers when they lost to both of those teams once in the regular season and they eliminated the Knicks from the post season? PG13 made the LAC GM look like an absolute fool.
This trade was a huge failure for the Clippers trading all that draft capital and an mvp caliber player in SGA to OKC to get Paul George and then they lose him for nothing when he signs with Philadelphia someone needs to be fired wow that trade backfired on the Clippers big time
The other option is shooters and role players. You could get 3 solid options for the price of PG. and that’s 2 more chances for health for the Sixers. The Sixers didn’t have a top end talent issue. They had a depth issue and this only hurts that.
It would have been hard for me to choose who was the bigger fool: The Clippers for letting PG go for nothing OR the Sixers for paying him almost four times what Maxey is getting, based on his last four years of questionable health. The Sixers are my team, the Clippers are my frustration. All things considered, I now have less of a problem with the Sixers signing PG with them also getting Andre Drummond back. PG has said publicly he doesn't want to be "the guy", so I'm going to hold him to that. If PG has a year like this last one...if Maxey continues to do Maxey things...if Embiid can _qualify_ for the MVP this season...I like Philly's chances to get to the conference finals.
Kawhi Leonard and James Harden are signed for the next two seasons. Perhaps they wanted to see if things could work in that time, and if it does not, they want to wipe the slate clean. A four year contract for Paul George would keep them locked to him, when he is inadequate as the top star, especially at age 36/37. It makes sense for them to not want to give him the fourth year.
Clippers is not ok even if they have Kawhi. He did not bring anything within the past 5 years. With his constant injury, he won‘t be able to bring anything in the table anymore because he is past his prime. Big mistake for the Clippers.
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The clippers are the biggest losers bc Okc and Philly owns their future picks and they lost Paul George for nothing
Yeah okc still has them 2 draft picks remaining and it's looking good for them if clippers go out bad these next two seaons 😂
@@cdeleon3494 I’m not saying it would happen but imagine kawhi miss half the season and the clippers are ass next year and okc ends up getting a edgecombe , Hugo or Nolan 😂😂
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U don't know how happy I am right now if the clippers are a bottom seed this upcoming season that means the clippers pick is gonna be a lottery pick in 2025 for the thunder which means okc would be in the Cooper flagg sweepstakes this is what the clippers get for being a greedy bitch and a poverty franchise
That 2026 unprotected clippers pick is gonna be incredibly valuable for OKC
"If the team is fully healthy" there's about a 110% chance that the 76ers won't be.
Don't put that evil on us 😭
Yeah never going to happen i heard that for the Joel for the past 8-7 years sorry being little pessimistic but im I need to be honest and not blind optimist
@@Ronsss-ew8wshe wasn’t healthy last year and still put up 30 ppg. If he does that and PG averages more than the 6 ppg we got from Tobias we might be on to something
As long as they try to make it work with a regular season MVP level Embiid they are going to have to roll the dice and hope the 10% chance he and/or the team are healthy for the playoffs happens this year or the next couple years (although 10% is generous. Has he EVER been healthy in the playoffs?)
Yeah that can be possible
The biggest concern is the fact PG is 34, the exact age we see 90% of superstars like PG fall off big time either due to general decline or injuries. Dwyane Wade, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Paul Pierce, and many more hit the wall at 34. Philly better hope he's built like KD and Lebron, Celtics and Knicks are still gonna beat them either way.
PG gon be the Celtics Shaq equivalent ❤
That was before modern “supplements”. These guys are getting stem cell and TRT to keep them playing longer.
Hahaha now that's funny
It’s different nowadays. Back then, former stars struggled to take a backseat and couldn’t adapt. Today, stars/good players are now embracing lesser roles as they age and “slow down.” Look at LeBron, KD, Harden, Westbrook, Conley, KLove, Horford, Draymond, Lowry, etc.
Difference with PG is he is still producing at virtually the same rate that he’s always been. Sure he may have lost a bit of athleticism but he is still doing what PG does. Plus his game is likely to age extremely well.
It’s a roll of the dice but it could also bring them a championship. I like this move for the Sixers.
Him throwing management under the bus for losing the "glue guys" for Harden def didn't help.
That's his m.o.
When the pacers traded Danny granger Paul was done
He also is not wrong
Not paying anyone a max who says shit like that. Period.
@@jbischmannyou ain’t in no position to pay anyone 😂
I ain't gonna pay no bets on Phili to win anything, that's for damn sure. P.s. I don't see any rings for Morey pulling shit like this (giving out giant bags) ... Morey was gonna give Harden another max in Houston prior, remember that ... talk about bad contracts. Morey more of a snake oil salesman type spending (dumb) ownership money than he is any real basketball savant. He another Billy King type.
Tucker don't forget, Paul George wanted to go to the Warriors first. The Warriors tried to do a trade for Paul George, and the Clippers would've gotten assets back in return, but the Clippers turned it down. So that makes the situation even worse for them
Ballmer made the right decision for rejecting the warriors offer. Warriors wanted the clippers to take on two bad contracts. Ballmer made the right decision for letting George walk. Derrick jones and porter jr can replace a 35 years old George . I disagree with tucker with why not blow it up. Clippers don’t have their draft picks .
@@sting114 well you're just wrong, and its funny
its so stupid, they could have gotten some good 1-2 roleplayers and a 1st round pick lol
Naw, it makes sense not to trade him within conference.
@@ViewlessDRH clippers Just signed 2 role players in jones and porter jr for a lot cheaper than what Chris Paul and Wiggins are making. It’s suicidal if you take on their bad contract
It's kinda ironic. PG13 going from Kahwi who always injured, especially for playoffs. Going to Embiid, who is always injured during the playoffs.
At least Embiid tries to play injured. Kawhi would sit out for a common cold
@@fabmyride5181no difference in the End. At least Kawhi has a Ring lol.
@@hitman9198 & Embiid, still, has never gotten past the 2nd round.
@@fabmyride5181 what's the point in even playing if you're going to be a shell of yourself and lose anyway? To win, they will need their superstars at their best, it ain't gonna happen with them at 60 or 80%
@@MrE_Embiid was dropping 50 in the playoffs on the same injury that Kawhi refused to even practice on. Not the same.
overpaid for sure but not stupid
It was stupid…but for the Clippers..
60 million dollars for a 38 year old glorified role player (by that point) in the middle of your top 3 guy in the league’s prime. That’s stupid.
he’ll be on his retirement bed making 60 million lol, may not be totally stupid but it sure isn’t smart.
@@ericg4626 Except at that point, they're probably rebuilding anyway and would trade him and retain salary to maintain the 90%.
@@ericg4626 Embiid will be 34 by the end of the contract. That's pretty old for most big men in the NBA, especially ones with Embiid's injury track record. I'd say Philly's window is 2 years with or without tying up the money in a PG max contract.
The CBA is why
It’s not that complicated man
Ik he’s like I don’t understand lmao like bro everyone knows this
I don't think people understand the ramifications of the new CBA yet. Beams which are up against the cap will not be able to make trades moving forward just look at Chicago Bulls they are trying to give away Zach and a first-round pick and no one is willing to take on the that contract
I think people are drastically overreacting to the CBA.
Look at Boston, NY and Minnesota. If you have a contender you just pay the money and eat the "penalties" that aren't going to effect you anyway
The bigger impact is on:
1) a team like Phoenix or Philly or the Heatles or KG Celtics who want to get a big three now and then to fill out the roster later. The new CBA removes the mechanisms for doing that.
2) a team like LA who is a quasi-contender but can't just throw money at the problem by packaging two players for someon like LaVine
The new CBA rewards proper _team_ building while limiting how long teams can stay at the top
The issue right now is teams got trapped between the old world and new. Boston and Minnesota threaded that needle. (Although it may blow up in Minnesota's face still.) Phoenix and Denver did not.
Even if he does start to decline later down it would most likely still be more production than Tobias Harris
Harris averaged 16 a game PG 22
Also one is an elite defender and the other is a traffic cone
Clippers realized they are not good enough to win the title with PG he only averaged 19pts in the playoffs and if they paid him the max they would have zero flexibility to improve the team.
They're done now. They're winning the square root of jack without him.
@@RD-zx6py They weren't winning with him either. At least now they can change the look of their team with a lot less restriction. They're draft picks in 7 years won't be frozen either, which not a lot of people were talking about.
@@Yonbu fine. Then blow it up. They should have just admitted it had failed and started trading away assets rather than trying to lowball one guy out of 3 - and it was a lowball offer as proven by how quickly he massively surpassed it for a contending team.
@@RD-zx6py PG was not lowballed. He was offered the same deal Kawhi got. He just didn't want to take it because of the over 38 rule which affects his next contract. It makes no sense for the Clippers to blow it up when OKC owns their picks. Some of ya'll just be talking without understanding why things played out the way they did. PG is a really good player but Clippers would have been stuck in cap hell for the next 4 years with a team they can't improve in any way if they had chosen to max him out. Kawhi took slightly less than the max. Harden took a massive paycut as well. PG is the one that didn't want to play ball.
@@Yonbu also, the clips front office catered to whatever PG wanted, got all his friends on the team even tho there were better moves available.
There's nobody the Sixers can't beat in the Eastern conference if they're fully healthy? The Celtics and Knicks have entered the chat. Celtics have so much playoff experience on that team now. If you added up the total number of playoff games played by all players on Boston's starting 5, I don't think it can be matched. Yes, most of it is Tatum, Brown and Holiday, but on top of that you've got the fact that everybody on the organization knows what it took to win a championship last year, and they essentially did that without Porzingis and with Tatum shooting poorly.
Lets be real 76ers anit beating celtics in the playoffs period pg13 is a playoff choker just like embild harden it's not gonna workout the 76ers will have a good season but will end just like the dallas cowboys
@@Aaronwise253 that's assuming that embiid even makes it to the playoffs all his flopping and flailing is catching up to him. Unlike teams like the Celtics who's injury prone players are good but not important to winning if embiid goes 6ers shit the bed
Yeah this guy missed the mark entirely. Plus the clippers did right letting him go
@jakeogroton lolll the celtics are a pretty healthy the only player on the team that is injury prone Is kristap that's it period celtics will be fine
@@Aaronwise253remember PG led the clippers to their first WCF and he’s not even the best player on the 6ers, don’t over estimate the Celtics because they broke through the year EVERYBODY was hurt, against seriously comp, them boys fold up, the East is open, nobody has a leg up on anyone between them three team js…
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think PG was more important than The Klaw for the Clippers. Although he was hurt, he was less injured than Leonard, and with him, they had their best playoff success (not much, but they are the Clippers, after all). But hey, they paid Harden (one year is a player option)…
Not unpopular just wrong. Pg only there cuz of kawhii everything else that happened for good or bad is cuz of kawhii.
I mean yeah. Klaw didn't even get a chance to show off what he did in the reg season in the playoffs.
I would have paid pg before the other 2 guys
1 post season with a healthy kawhi and harden is all it takes for the clippers to look smart
@@MrE_ they were my pick for winning it all this season because klaw was looking healthy and great. But look at what happened. There is no hope for this core.
This was PG saying NO to more Kawhi nonsense
And proceeds to join embiid. Gingerbread man.
The Process ends where it started : nowhere... 🤔
They got Embiid, but that's literally it. They got a center that can't stay of the court, and when he can he can't lead his team past the second round. He's a reg season stat merchant
Trade all so called injury prone stars, and build around Maxey
I like PG in Philly, they need somebody to show up during playoffs, Harden wasn't going to be it, Embiid messes up every play offs and then throws somebody under the bus. Every. Damn. Time.
Good for them, I like it.
-- PG plays great defense (over Harden). It is an upgrade over Harden. Philly didn't need scoring in Harden b/c Embiid and Maxey can fill that void.
PG in the playoffs just needs win 2 games scoring wise and do a lot more defensively (than Harden).
With Embiid and PG on the same team, there will be no health. lol
Bro with embiid on one leg and one eye they still almost beat your knicks lol
@@themoviefan9990 knicks without Randal
@@squashrat9431 they play better without Randell but nice try lol
@@themoviefan9990ALMOST
@@themoviefan9990yet they lost to the knicks with injured randle, bojan, mitch
I would have signed Derozan and Miles bridges for that same money
Thinking the same thing make it worth it we gave up Shai for nothing
how's that stupid? i think it's a great fit the only problem is if they can stay healthy
Idk if sixers fans wanted to pay max for another 'if' on their team. They already have one, the youtubers i check in on wanted depth.
We know damn well they're not gonna be healthy lol
IF!!!
... and they can't.
Maybe watch the fkn video before u comment
Embiid's Knees are made of glass, this is the kind of all in nove they needed to make. If it works they are probably Championship contenders (I dont believe they are Celtics/Knicks tier but really good). If not, they can Just simply blow it up, which was a option for pretty much the last 3 years
For the Clippers, I Just simply dont get it, specially since OKC still owns the next few picks
I agree. It's really sad but because of his glass knees, and nothing else, I don't think Embiid is ever going to win a championship regardless of who else is on the team and how healthy they are.
With a fully healthy embiid they would’ve beat the Knicks last season, now it comes down to is Paul George better than Mikal Bridges
@@coopercourtney6459with Drummond they would have beat the knicks
@@coopercourtney6459 Of course, the "fully healthy Embiid" excuse comes out every year. Knicks didn't have their second best player on the court, did you somehow forget about that? The Embiid/Maxey might still be the strongest duo in the east, but frankly I'm still not seeing this team get past the 2nd round.
Price of Mikal Bridges, DiVincenzo, and Hart combined = PG 😂
That much money for an aging journeyman with an injury history and no playoff success is wild.
Bro stop. He's a HOF player. A journeyman? Tf is wrong with you
He's a top 25 player. That's what you pay top 25 players
Embiid end of the year : " me and Paul couldn't do it alone "
Smell that? That’s the smell of desperation. 90% chance this blows up in Philly’s face, this contract won’t be able to be traded within 2 years. There is that 10% chance they make a serious run, but Boston will be there the whole time.
Making up percentages out of your ass doesn’t make you right
Fair but like he said there was really no other option and they have one of the best players in the league on their team who is aging and has still never even been to the conference finals. They had to do something and trying is at least better than continuing on with whatever was going on before
If by some miracle Embiid is healthy (it's not happening) they might match up well against Boston, who are thin at center if Porzingiz isn't playing and 38 year old Horford has to play high 20s or more minutes.
You know what was desperate? Trading 5 first round picks for Mikal Bridges
Not just Boston. Pacers, Knicks, and Magic all have super bright futures, and the Bucks are no slouches either. Also, can never count out the Heat. They've shown time and time again that their organization gets it done. West is very strong, but the east ain't exactly terrible.
It is stupid for almost 30 teams. For the Sixers, it's a necessity. You have to think of it as a 2 or 3 year deal. That's about as much as Embiid is probably willing to give the team before wanting to try to get his championship elsewhere. Of all the options, he was the best. He fills a need. He played well last year. The Sixers still have their assets for a deal at the trade deadline as well.
Tucker awfully overrates aging stars.
It’s less about the star and more about the idea. Having PG as a 3rd option is so nice
@@aaryadani2090 I thought Tuck is calling 76ers stupid, but he is scolding Clips. And it is awfully stupid take. LAC were paying generously PG13 in his prime, and got no finals appearance. Why should they pay him max money after his prime. It is would very stupid. But Tuck is so attached to big names, even of they don't bring success.
I get 76ers, bc they cleared their payroll before this season.
@@mareklame8589 oh I agree with that. For having a basketball focused channel, not understanding the rules of the CBA and how picks can be demoted is kinda crazy. Clips need to hold out for a bit and then fully blow it up. OKC isn't gonna take Kawhi and Philly can't either. How can they get their picks?
@@aaryadani2090 I believe LAC wanted to continue their project for 2 years, so they don't need picks until 2027. Kawhi has 3 years more. Harden got 70M/2y. Givin PG13 4 years would mess it up. I suspect if they won't win a chip, in 2026 the Beard is off the books, and last year of Kawhi's contract is easily moveable to some desperate team. Maybe for some pick.
Also it is LA, if they clear the space in 2026, they could attract new stars in FA.
they didn’t give him the fourth year bc they didn’t like his contract
He's not worth the 3 years they were offering him to begin with lol
I don't see them playing 30 games together
I still feel like Orlando was the better fit but hey what do I know
I don't understand how any Embiid team can be called a contender, there's way too much evidence that proves they aren't legit and even when Embiid is healthy all he's done is underperform and throw the blame onto others while being a dirty player
Paul George has officially become overrated. I don’t get why teams keep handing out big contracts to non winners. Demar derozan, Paul George, Tobias Harris. When have these players ever won anything significant?
He's been overrated ever since he resigned with OKC in 2017
So when pg is with kawhi a non player he's a non winner? Sick of this give the mf a chance he's a baller
Lmao don't fckn bring tobias in there. He didn't even make an all-star team. Yeah contracts are ridiculously high but it's the norm right now... And philly is desperate to win so overpaying is the only way as Philly blew it several times through the draft anyway... 😅😂
You don’t base a players skill on their team’s success, it makes no sense to not give a guy a contract because he was good but on a bad team. 62iq take
@@willdouglas3202he’s been in the league for 15 years. He’s had chances ….
If Philly goes to the finals or wins a championship with PG someone in LA is losing their job😂
Clippers when PG13 doesnt sign: surprised Pikachu face
Maybe they have watched the team fall short every year with Paul George as their main star?. Maybe they were being realistic about what Paul George would look like 4 years from now? Maybe they actually made a pretty smart move? They still have a couple of stars on the team and probably enough talent to do as well as they did last year. I don't know their financial situation but they did clear some cap space for the first time in a long time.😊
I think it's simpler. Clippers wanted to go under the luxury tax, but didn't want to decline PG outright as that would damage signing future free agents, so they offered 3 years hoping another team will pick him up.
so why didn’t they trade him to the Warriors 😭
@@JirenUSklay is a free agent and wont do a sign and trade is one reason. Also klay wants a big contract too which is also bad for the luxury tax
Idk. I don’t think they necessarily wanted to go under the tax. I think they didn’t want to be in the second apron in the first year. 2nd apron teams are going to find it difficult to maneuver. I’m almost sure if the Clippers could have gotten a large trade exception for PG, they would have had him opt in then trade into Philly’s cap space.
@@JirenUS They'd have to take on salary back to make a trade work.
@@rockafeller3734 Klay had nothing to do with PG 🤣. Bro what are u saying. Warriors offer didn’t have Klay.
Clippers wild for not paying him the extra years but with all the BS PG pulled and still left is a horrible look for him. They gave him all that money after he played like crap in the playoffs and blew a 3-1 lead, and signed pretty much every player he wanted
THAT PAART ‼️
honestly, i dont think philly with george is better than the clips with george. they have absolutely no one but paul reed besides their big 3. the clips had np, zubac, mann.
I think you missed the point that they tried it with George and it didn't work out. He is very injury prone and in my opinion is extremely overrated. He hasn't done anything since leaving the pacers. The clippers should have never sent all their picks to okc for him anyway. I think signing him then trying to trade him aswell wouldn't have got that much attention from teams wanting to take on a max contract. Harden, kawhi and George are all too simular players and makes sense letting one of them walk. They now have Harden and Kawhi at under their value ( Even though they both don't want to play lol). The steal in all of this is signing Westbrook again for 4 million. No idea how his value is so low. 1/13 the amount of pg. Makes no sense.
Russ is probably worth more than he settles for, he just wants to play in his hometown and maximize his chances at a championship
I'm pretty sure Clippers traded for PG because that was Kawhi's demand for signing with them. Yeah it looks awful now that Shai has become an MVP candidate, but they just needed one healthy run to get to the finals at least once. Everything really is on Kawhi being injured every year, even Shai couldn't save the Clippers with that max contract stuck on the bench.
@@rob.j.g Russ is definitely not worth more than $4-5m/yr at this point
As a Clipper fan, it's sad to see George walk for nothing. On the other hand, he's a good player but he had the tendency to disappear in the playoffs. After 5 years, I think it's time to attempt to change things up and move on.
James Harden: Darryl Morey is A Liar!
Darryl Morey: I'm A Liar? Okay James. Say Less. Enjoy ClipperLand.
Darryl Morey is a totally Bonafide Savage for this!
PG worth about 35 million
its honestly hilarious how many of you feel like you understand why the clippres did what they did. the new CBA forced the clippers in a tough situation. extending paul george took the clippers over the second apron, which is a huge deal because they can't do anything else with their roster after that point.
trading paul geroge to the warriors, especially for a package without kuminga also took them over the second apron. why would the clippers kill all of their potential flexibility for andrew wiggins???
if the new CBA was not in place, the clippers would likely have no problem paying Paul George his current contract, but the clippers figured that they did not have the personnel or flexibility to win a championship, so they really had no other choice but to leave him for nothing.
Bella's one of the biggest mistake that the clippers ever made is letting that Paul George get away that was stupid
Trading away Paul Reed to signed a better backup center
I don’t understand why anyone agreed to the CBA.
It hurts big teams and stars and doesn’t really seem to benefit mid/lower level players. It seems to only benefit the front offices of lower level teams.
Most who complained here still didn't answer Tucker's question about who's the money is going to if not PG.
"How to save on electricity?" "Don't use it" dumb AF
'losing Paul George for absolutely nothing'...are you kidding me?...they now have 50-plus million a year to get one or more players, ones whose contracts may not look bad in the final two years.....in the 5 years with the Clippers, he's played 263 games...that's less than 53 games a year, or almost a million per game...they haven't won enough with him, so what's the big deal?...
I wouldn't want to pay Paul George 50 million in four years - No Thank you!
I think they wanted the cap reset in 3 years to miss some of the most severe 2nd apron penalties
They literally explained in the statement - they were not going to give anyone, Kawhi or harden anymore than 3 years. They never bluffed. The trade flopped and they were cutting their losses, the new CBA made it harder. Actually look stuff up for once
As a former clippers fan, this makes me so happy. I've hated them since they traded for that piece of garbage petulant child James Harden. Not only did he not get a max extension, but he will never be in contention for a ring. Karma works in mysterious and amazing ways
Paul George looked at his Chapionship potential on each team and picked Philly
Now the 76ers can choke in the playoffs but blame it on Paul George being injured instead of admitting they’re choke artists
Excellent content 👏🏼
I don't think Paul George is a good fit because PG plays best in isolation plays and needs the ball in his hands like Embiid to be effective. Problem is there is only one ball and you know Embiid is going to get the ball 75% of the time.
I would not be surprised if PG's scoring average drops by 25% because PG will be the 3rd option. At the Clippers, PG was either the #1 or #2 option.
Sixers would have been better off trading for Anunoby, Mikal Bridges or Klay Thompson.
PG is in the 73rd percentile as an iso scorer but 94th percentile as a spot up shooter and 95th percentile as a cutter. He'll be fine off ball
He's also 95th as a PnR ball handler which means Maxey can play off ball more and Maxey is insanely good off ball. He shoots 45% on spot up threes and is maybe the best guy in the league attacking closeouts. He makes split second decisions and gets into the paint before his defender knows what happened
Although I'm not sure Oubre makes quite as much sense now. He needs to make shots because teams just won't guard him in the playoffs.
I don't understand why so many people hate that deal while they were hype for Lillard to the Bucks. They have the same age, a huge contract, and are both injury prone but philly gave no asset to get Georges while the Bucks lost Holiday and 3 first round.
"If they're fully healthy" Lol heard that shit before. 😂
2:51 KCP AT 30 mill per year!! Did I hear you right ?he’d have to retire before getting that from anyone
* conspiracy theory mode on*
Feels like George signing with the Sixers was already part of the deal when the Harden trade was made.
The fact that LAC could have had Kuminga and picks and instead got nothing is wild. Even more wild considering that Philly owns the LAC picks AND you know they are one of the key teams that could sign him. LAC is going to be stuck in mediocrity for years before they can rebuild.
Leonard won more play off rounds in 1 year than with the Clippers in 5 😂😂😂
The Lamelo of GMs. Daryl Morey. All show and no substance.
It’s not just that the contract will be bad in 2 years, it’s that it will also be bad NOW. He’s been injury prone the past 5 years and will take up cap space away from depth, something the Sixers have struggled with since embiids first playoff year
As the Hawks secretly upgrade and get better......
This is a GREAT CONTRACT FOR PAUL GEORGE.
It’s a STUPID CONTRACT FOR THE SIXERS. And this is NOT DARTL’S MONEY.
This isn't stupid. This makes the most sense for Philly by far. Its win now time, and there's no telling how long Joels body is gonna hold up. PG is in a perfect position as the 3rd option. Just because you can't wrap your mind around it, doesn't mean its a stupid or a bad move
Even better is that the 76ers own 2 of the Clippers picks as well, so not only did they improve their roster, they might actually get some really good players from the draft in a few years.
Please make a video explaining the new CBA and how the provisions impact team decisions. The Blazers recent trade was seen by many here as needed due to the new CBA (reduced salary by 16 million). A lot of people comment about the new CBA impacts on team decision making.
There's a reason they call him L Frank. He brings L moves season after season.
I seriously can't believe they didn't trade him to the warriors last year. Absolutely crazy
One of the Dumbest Clippers moves. PG is more reliable than Kawhi and will guarantee a playoff run. Just sign PG to a 4 year contract and if it doesn’t work out you can always trade him later.
Don't forget the clippers passed up a solid package from gsw instead of losing him for nothing.
After Pacers, PG has been quite rubbish. Sixers is the best place for him. He can retire there.
Yes I don't understand all the love for PG. He hasn't done anything since the Pacers. Clippers have seen it first hand and let him walk. Where clippers made the mistake was trading for him. They gave up way too much.
Paul George choked in the last 8 seasons and 212 millions is waaaaay toooo much
As a Clippers fan I can tell you we don’t give af about PG leaving I Atleast recognize that our championship window is closed and did y’all see PG in the playoffs good riddance
The Clippers trading SGA and all those first round picks for Paul George might bring the Thunder a championship. Meanwhile, the Clippers didn't even get 1 first round pick for Paul George? 👀🤣🤣🤣
Maybe he finally came to the realization that the clippers suck!
THe only choices were to concede the East and blow it up - trade Embiid - start over with Maxey. Or, sign George. It was a binary decision. SO make the choice - the amount/length of the contract was the only way to get George so it's not worth even discussing that part. So you pay that, or, blow it up and start over. And totally agree - Sixers called the Clippers bluff.
1. Philly won't be healthy
2. That 3rd and 4th year of the PG contract are going to be painful
3. Philly won't be healthy
4. This should force the Clippers to be sensible and fleece some desperate teams by trading Kawhi and Harden
5. Philly won't be healthy
If Sixers didn’t have that cap. He would’ve come back. But we fumbled by giving them all the space by trading them expiring for Harden
Why are we acting like Paul George was the Clippers 2nd best player? We have Kawhi Leonard and James Harden. Paul George has and will continue to be a better in theory player because you cannot name a year when Paul George overcame the odds and overachieved unless you're counting returning from injury.
Why not
It ain’t stupid only if your PG you left a situation to be in the same situation again in a worse city but yeah turning your back
On your hometown knowing the CBA rules is selfish especially when harden and Westbrook even Bron understood that
Pg got a 4th year, if he truely wanted a title he could have signed for much less with a contender. Clippers dont want to give him the 4th year. 50 million + is life changing money.
My point is please tell me a better situation that’s available right now. Other than try and make something happen considering they don’t have a lot of draft picks down the line? Other than the money which they shouldn’t have a problem reconciling if they exhausted a lot of funds.. what’s better out there? Win now is the mindframe, I’m not sitting through two and three years for something to happen and there’s nobody coming out of college that looks even remotely impressive just like this year straight so what are you gonna do? Or what would you do? Let me hear that.
Philly needs depth!! Hopefully they can get Kyle Anderson, Malik Beasley, Miles Bridges or Sadiq Bey
PG has always been overrated. Very good player but many in media overhyped him.
Appears to be a solid fit with 76ers but lets see the final product on the court!
PG is bad if he is the 1st option on your team but he’s probably the best 3rd option in the whole NBA.
This is a good contract for PG13. What I’d like to know is why are you just putting the Knicks and 76ers over the Pacers when they lost to both of those teams once in the regular season and they eliminated the Knicks from the post season? PG13 made the LAC GM look like an absolute fool.
76ers did what they had to do, i give it a A+ honestly. What else were they gonna do, this a home run for them
Embiid so skilled even playing thru injury he makes shots like butter he may age better than a lot of ppl think and I hate the sixers
It is stupid. He's an expensive Tobias.
But after not paying Harden, Philly had to pay SOMEBODY. I can't blame them from a business point of view
This trade was a huge failure for the Clippers trading all that draft capital and an mvp caliber player in SGA to OKC to get Paul George and then they lose him for nothing when he signs with Philadelphia someone needs to be fired wow that trade backfired on the Clippers big time
He wasn't MVP caliber back then they were in win now mode this Isn't my eras on 2k you don't know who will be a star and who won't
it's been proven PG and Kawhi combo does not work. Time for a change.
The other option is shooters and role players. You could get 3 solid options for the price of PG. and that’s 2 more chances for health for the Sixers. The Sixers didn’t have a top end talent issue. They had a depth issue and this only hurts that.
I’m a die hard clippers fan. Thanks for your service and good luck.
As a Celtic fan if they’re healthy we still winning in 6
It would have been hard for me to choose who was the bigger fool: The Clippers for letting PG go for nothing OR the Sixers for paying him almost four times what Maxey is getting, based on his last four years of questionable health. The Sixers are my team, the Clippers are my frustration. All things considered, I now have less of a problem with the Sixers signing PG with them also getting Andre Drummond back. PG has said publicly he doesn't want to be "the guy", so I'm going to hold him to that. If PG has a year like this last one...if Maxey continues to do Maxey things...if Embiid can _qualify_ for the MVP this season...I like Philly's chances to get to the conference finals.
Second round contenders.
Kawhi Leonard and James Harden are signed for the next two seasons. Perhaps they wanted to see if things could work in that time, and if it does not, they want to wipe the slate clean. A four year contract for Paul George would keep them locked to him, when he is inadequate as the top star, especially at age 36/37. It makes sense for them to not want to give him the fourth year.
Clippers is not ok even if they have Kawhi. He did not bring anything within the past 5 years. With his constant injury, he won‘t be able to bring anything in the table anymore because he is past his prime. Big mistake for the Clippers.
After this contract Paul George will have made the 2nd most ever behind Lebron