Lol y'all only bring up one player lol. Before you start talking. Please read about the new cba lol.then talk. They could not trade pg if they gave him a new deal. No team would trade for that
@@donnellbrown4575 because that’s the player that got signed to a massive deal and then shipped off afterwards by this exact team. It’s called common sense, try it some time.
@@donnellbrown4575 I can't think of a single other team who creates a mock jersey retirement for a player to convince them to resign, then immediately trades that player after they resigned.
I blame Kawhi for forcing the trade for PG. Clippers front office gave up way too much. It's now clear to everyone that PG wasn't even worth half the haul.
@@akirosakuragi9279 With his net worth, he can have 31 more clippers teams and it wouldn't hurt him at all but the problem is that he probably wants to win and it looks impossible for the next 6 years. It probably sucks to be the richest owner in the league and no matter how much money you throw at this problem, it cannot be fixed.
Kawhi when healthy and thats a big WHEN is still a tier above paul george. I understand health is everything but paul george has never led a team anywhere. Dude played with a prime,angry,hungry westbrook in OKC and couldnt even get out the first round. Lets talk facts if yall wanna be real
I can understand why the Clippers didn’t bite but at the same time when you give up as much as they did to get him you can’t just let him walk. Should’ve gave him the 3-year extension mid season
@@J0EN1DASim tryna tell this bro! dude shooting split aint that bad even in playoff but its legit like 1 game dude shot 55-60% then the next 2 playoff game dude shot like 35% 😂 thats why the playoffp is real lol
Paul George got a fully guaranteed max deal at age 35 after one healthy season in his 30s on a super desperate team 😬 I can't really fault the Clippers for not wanting to give him that same deal. It's time for the Clippers to try something else and stop giving the 5 fans they have false hope.
Pg is just like “it’s no big deal just pay my old ass $50,000,000 a year for the next 3 years. No matter of a fact how about y’all can’t just trade me anywhere. Ahh forget the no trade thing just throw in another $50,000,000. Wait what why won’t y’all agree to that ???!!!”
The fact that they let pg go but gave kawhi 153 million when he’s been injured about 80% of the time shows you everything you need to know about this franchise
@@pfpchad2747 I'm talking about the 2yr-60M deal for PG. Low balling the shit out of that guy, just like I do when I want an old nightstand from FB Marketplace
The Clipper's owner is one of the richest people in the world and he tried to lowball PG. PG was often 1A on the Clippers because Kawhi was often injured. That offer was an insult.
Kinda makes sense now why the Clippers dropped from #1 seed to 6th seed around all star break… PG realizing the Clippers weren’t tryna budge and give him what he wanted prolly messed his groove and the teams chemistry. If the Clippers would’ve never dropped so hard and kept competing with OKC, Wolves and Nuggets for the top seeds, who knows how the playoffs would’ve played out
@@rob.j.g nah it wasn’t something serious that’s why he’s playing now in the Olympics. He just wasn’t 100% and tried playing 2 games against the Mavs but was hurting the team instead. I’m sure if they had an easier matchup where he could’ve rest. He would’ve been fine for the next series
@@geefryherrera3261 It was serious enough that he was unable to play, bad enough that he literally had a negative impact being on the floor. He can play in the olympics because had more than 2 months to recover from this injury but a not serious injury is something like those boys on the Knicks who were all playing through their injuries through the entire playoffs run
The reason they're not the same is because a healthy Kawhi=championship, a healthy PG=early vacation. Ijs. However, Kawhi will probably never be healthy again and PG needs to be a number 2 or 3 somewhere with a healthy player. So I'm not too sure how it will work considering he chose another unhealthy player to play with. Sometimes I think these mfs don't want to win but idk.
The 2 years 60 millions is wild, his ego obviously got hurt , so he started adding stuff like no trade clause and a 4th year , i think after that initial offer he was outta there and he was trying to find reasons to leave and asked for things he knew they wouldn't give him
I think the pivot they made from not giving the kawhi contract and then offering it raised some eyebrows. It’s almost like the clippers tipped their hand - if he signed chances are the clippers likely run it back for a year and then use PG as a trade chip for assets and to get out of the second apron. PG realized this and wanted to control his destiny
if they decided to give him the same deal as Kawai from the very beginning they would have never been in the situation they are but they decided to play games and they got what they deserve and if Kawai Harden gets hurt, they’re the lottery team and the OKC thunder will literally have a top-tier pic
@@justtimes9257 Clippers now have the bleakest future in the NBA They have no assets, no picks, no draw. The moment Harden and Kawhi leave or retire the team is going to return to the 80s for at least another decade
No instead all he does is average 19 in the playoffs on 30% from the field. This dude didn't even score 17 points per game in games 5 or 6. Not only is he not worth a Max contract, I'd argue he's not worth $30 mil a year.
Tbh with how it all went down, PG’s demands were relatively understandable. Philly defo had the max on the table for him during all of this once free agency started, and I believe he wanted to stay a Clipper but also wanted some control of his career. The Clippers have heavily under performed and there’s a genuine possibility they split everything up in the next 3/4 years and players lose their opportunity to dictate their landing spots. On top of that, the blatant disrespect in January probably nailed it there and then.
With the exception of 2021, they've largely underperformed because of him directly. And it's ridiculous to me that $30 million a season for an injury prone 34-year-old is " blatant disrespect".
Did Kawhi get a little over $150M? In any event, I can see why after months he wouldn't want the deal without the no-trade clause. If they say they want you there and you want to be there, why not add the no-trade clause so that he feels comfortable after it took months to get to that number. That would make one feel leery at that point. And as he said, if they decided to trade him during that time, he could be somewhere getting paid less than what he could have gotten and not in LA where he wanted to be. Hence, why he would accept that deal.
@@CovfefeDotard There is no reason for them to be mediocre, they'd rather have the chance to contend or be bad than fall off over time as PG and harden age
@@chan13153 nobody knew Sga was gonna be this good Plus me personally picks don’t matter unless it’s top3 If your team ain’t good at identifying talent or developing it than picks don’t matter anyway
@@nitoshadow You personally guess that makes it correct lol. Tons of good draft picks were from players chooses after #3. Just bc u said it doesn't matter doesn't make it right. They drafted SGA. They knew why OKC wanted him. But they were pressured by Kwahi. The big reasons why OKC is in such a great spot right now is bc of the deals they made at the end of Westbrook's and PG era in OKC. They traded SGA and a bunch of young players, Tons of draft picks. Clippers were a scrappy young team b4 Kwahi got there. They were tough against the Warriors with KD. They just had to keep it going, but instead they traded for PG and signed Kwahi only to watch those 2 load manage. They def fumbled the bag big time..
@@nitoshadow Although the argument here is kinda true, almost anyone who watched his rookie season knew that he was at least gonna be a solid #2 next to Kawhi. Hindsight is 20/20, and it is kinda hard to predict what would've happened if he never played next to CP3.
@@drewelric118 It’s Less when other teams are offering you 4 years guaranteed $212 As with the clippers after 3 years he will struggle to get max dollars…. Look at Russ, or Harden
@@the_one1001 it can be less and the point of NBA contracts being insane still stands. I understand that it’s not as much, tough to feel for someone who plays a game for a living thinking I’m worth more than 150 million over the next 3 years
@@drewelric118 less & more are concepts relative to the profession, compared to us guys sure it’s alot, but it wouldn’t be less if he was not able get more with another team… If someone offered him 300 for 4 years, then his current contract would be less again… Just wait till we see what wembys supermax extension will be, I predict 5 years 80m per (on his first deal)
“PG has an Ego” isn’t exactly fair, I mean his talents at his size is literally the most valuable thing in the entire NBA, he and his camp knew what his market looked like, the Clips could’ve at least matched what he wanted considering he’s gonna last longer than Kawhi.
To put it in perspective, Jerami Grant’s deal is better than 2 at $60m and Grant’s deal is now considered being a bargain for role players with the new CBA. That offer to PG was disrespectful.
Sixers front office has been playing a fun little game where they try and slowly destroy all the assets they got from the process and call themselves contenders despite their overreliance on one guy to get them to the postseason.
@@moomie1634what are you talking about? Morey has reloaded our picks including 2 picks from the Clippers, he got a 3rd star, and filled out the team with good role players. This free agency was a Morey masterclass
PG will be great during the regular season, except when he sits out due to injury. It's the playoffs where Sixers fans will realize that PG wasn't worth the contract.
PG Greedy. Clippers signed literally every player he wanted, and gave him more control of the offense when he complained and then got Harden and Westbrook when PG complained it was annoying bringing the ball up all the time. They wnated him and Kawhi on the same timeline for contracts with 3 years. He greedy leaving all that for one more year
Their first offer was less than they paid harden… they definitely didn’t plan on him leaving. there’s no way they would choose this the first year they get their own arena.. forced them to pay harden more
@@michaelcarney8496 I’m actually a season ticket holder, been a fan since I was in middle school, I wrote that to see how many die hard sixer fans look at the comments on videos like this, you win- you a real 1! 10,9..8 baby!
As a Clippers fan, it upsets me we gave Kawhi the money instead of PG Talent wise, yes, Kawhi is better player. But PG has been out there more and was playing both last postseason and against the Suns in the WCF. Shouldn’t you reward the guy who plays instead of the guy who doesn’t?
This what happened. Clippers offered 2/$30 mil as incentive for george to play as many games and they would renegotiate based on if he coould play games healthy. He did and they gave kawhi deal of 3 years not 4. Paul wanted 4, so agreed based on nonsensical no trade clause, thinking he could say ok take away no trade clause but give me 4 years. Clippers gave kawhi 3 not 4 on purpose so were against 4th year to george as well. George wanted 4th year..so he left..thats all that happened.
I don't think there's any point trying to rationalise what the Clippers FO are doing/thinking 😂 they seriously extended their best (but always injured) player without consulting their 2nd best on the figures AND THEN extend them together they just assumed he wouldn't leave at all or that he would even take less than what Kawhi took
Honestly Paul George is very unprofessional with having a podcast n what he decides to talk about is always negative light where he was at or who he played with regardless it’s never his fault n he always tries to “expose” the people who messed it up for him.
I can understand not wanting to pay that much for a group who will be at the end of the 30s when the deals end but it sort seems like the Clippers went into this not understanding that everyone, including PG, would know every detail of Kawhi'd deal. Even if it wasn't public they could have been talking privately.
idk if your leaving stuff out on purpose or not, but the Clippers initially declined that deal mid-season and he obviously felt disrespected. He got better offers in Free Agency and gave Clippers a counter, which they declined. They coulda had him locked up before Free Agency, but they obviously didn't want him as much as Kawhi
He only wanted the clause because he felt that the Clippers were going to swindle him. Why would they come back with the Kawhi offer (which they originally refused) all of a sudden now? W/o that clause, PG ends up being traded and loses out on his money while the Clippers gain back some assets. I don't blame him at all
No-trade clause is a poison-pill for the front office, especially given the Beal scenario. No one in their right mind would hand those out anymore, especially for a 35 y.o. who have already reached his max and likely on the decline. I understand that players gots to get theirs, but at the end of the day the team is looking out for the team, not to cater for a couple of players exclusively.
It sounds like PG grew doubt from them saying no at first for so long just to turn around and say yes, so he probably looked at it as if I'm signing three years, I wanna be here for the three years, but if you wanna trade me down the line, at least I got my four years that I would have signed anyways.
Its very simple: 1) Paul George is not on the level of Kawhi, never has been 2) Paul George played last time in playoffs in 2021, beside 2024, so he is basically same injury prone like Kawhi. 3) You literally need to pay more to 2 time NBA champ and FMVP, not the historical choker, who George clearly is. 4) Maybe 35 a year is ok deal for the level of PG game atm, cause Harden was better player and he got 70/2 contract.
PG did great for himself. He gets $216 million for 4 years, Embiid, and Maxey as teammates and a better chance to win a championship. Good for him. I also think with that second apron thing the Clippers did the right thing. They wasn't winning the championship with him and they not without him, so why pay PG?
Soo... they were to cheap to pay both and now are paying for it... I guess you can take the Clippers out of Donald Sterling, but you can't take Sterling out of the Clippers
I think part of his reasoning changing was just reflecting back on the season and the offers he’d been given. The Clippers notoriously signed Blake to the max and hung his jersey in the rafters just to trade him less than a year later. PG probably views himself as being in a similar situation. The org clearly favored Kawhi based on the negotiations so it was likely that George would get a lot of blame if the team continued underperforming and he’d be the one sent out the door to siberia or wherever he doesnt want to play for real. So he decided to do what was best for himself and go to the Sixers where it might not be a city he knows but the team is built to win and he gets all his money.
It certainly does not feel like Paul George really WANTS to be in Philly. He's not making any secret about having wanted to stay in LA, and his second choice was to play with Steph in Golden State. He's clearly only in Philly because they were basically the only team that could pay him, which makes me wonder about good of a fit it'll truly end up being. Kind of reminds me of Al Horford signing with the Sixers, but leaving his heart in Boston.
The Clippers had valid reasons for not re-signing PG, but they are flaming hypocrites. They understandably didn't wanna give max money to an aging, injury-prone star... but that's exactly what they did with Kawhi. Speaking of Kawhi, I think that he should get more blame than he's getting for the Kawhi-PG era failing. PG is not worth $50 million a year at this point in his career, especially not with his playoff struggles, but it's not like Kawhi is a much better option at this point. I think the Clippers extended him based on what their team COULD be WHEN he is healthy, which is ALWAYS the problem: WHEN he's healthy. I feel like he's been getting passes over the last few years due to his stoic personality and his playoff success compared to PG, but his past successes have nothing to do with right now. PG may be gone now, but their issues are still there.
I don't blame PG for leaving yet at the same time, I don't blame the franchise for not wanting to pay two injury prone players and a travelling machine the max with nothing to show for it
is there a option for like a 10- team not trade clause ? like in hockey ,, if there isnt that is something the player should try to get in the next cba ....its a good middle ground it doesn't toally handcuff the team and the player has some control where he doesn't go
Give a player in his mid 30s who was a no show in his final two playoff games a full max? Yeah no. I like how people want to say he deserves the money because of how he played during the regular season but yet when he was a Clipper, they brought up how bad he was in 2020 during that playoff run lol.
No trade wasn't going to happen, it was silly even to ask. It was a leverage play to try to get the 4th year and the Clippers were not going to do it either. So in the end it was either accepting the Kawhi deal or leaving, he chose to leave and it's not like Morey won't trade him either, but he got his 4th year.
I'm sure there is truth to what PG said but I don't think he's an entirely reliable narrator of events. Maybe he left because he wanted the full four year max. Moreover, Embiid is less of an injury risk than Kawhi and gives Paul a better chance at winning a championship.
in 5 years, PG played 263 matches of regular season, and tbh to me that's worth 30 Mil in the cap space, except if you win every match you make a appearance in. And now he joins a franchise with absolutely no history of injuries for his stars.. oh wait.
Clips disrespected him when they didn’t want to give him that initial offer. So when they came back he said “yesterday’s price is not today’s price.” That’s why u gotta strike when the irons hot
I can't hate on Kawhi getting the bag. but lets be honest you can't blame the clippers. lets be really really honest. their mistake was not blowing this team up.
This is also probably why he rejected his option. He didnt want the clippers to dictate where hes gonna go. He got screwed, he screwed them back. Seems like an even trade
60 mil for two years is a good deal. He’s in his mid-30’s. I’m tired of theses mid and late thirty year olds asking for max level contracts. And I’m 36!!
Probably more so that them not offering him the deal same time as Kawhi shows that his place there is not secure so he wanted added security. Seems fair enough to me
To be honest, Kawhi destroyed the Clippers by asking for PG and then telling Toronto to also bid for PG. Clippers front office had SGA and 5 1st round picks. They were too desperate to become relevant and lost everything. They should have traded Podcast P when they realized that he was either not available in the postseason or choking.
9:29 I was with you until you said the Clippers didn't think they would lose PG in free agency. They knew they were going to lose him. Made a decision to let him go and only time will tell if it was the right one. Paul isn't a spring chicken, and hasn't made an all-nba team since 2021. Will he be the missing piece in Philadelphia? Will he stay healthy? I guess we'll see.
in essence, the Sixers and Clippers traded Harden for George. The Clippers got Harden for less money than the Sixers would have had to pay him and for less years. The Clippers know they arent winning a championship if PG stayed or not, so why pay him all that money. they can use that money on other players to see what they can do.
Clippers didn’t want PG. They could have kept him and let Harden walk if they wanted to stay under the 2nd apron but they chose Harden because he was cheaper. Clippers need stars to sell tickets but are looking at a “rebrand” in the next couple years. They aren’t going to tank, instead they will be a fringe playoff team and have all their contracts expire at the same time and build a new team from scratch through free agency. It’s likely also the reason they turned down the Warriors. They didn’t want to be a 2nd apron team by matching salaries with the Warriors and probably didn’t feel like Kuminga was worth the contract he will likely be offered this next offseason.
No one who watches the Clippers every day thinks PG is in the same stratosphere as Kawhi. Both regularly injured, both good dudes, but PG is basically a trainwreck every 3rd game and is never good as Kawhi on his best day.
The CBA is the honest answer though. Teams cannot maintain two supermax players and expect to be competitive. They get one supermax two just under that and then everybody else gets a s***** contract. That's just the way it's going to be until a new CBA is negotiated 10 years from now or whenever the current one expires
The Clippers are gonna Clipper. Anyone noticed theyve never won a title? Hell, theyve NEVER been to the Finals. They have the richest owner in the league, their own stadium, are in a huge market, and they are still IRRELEVANT. PG doesnt realize it, but he was done a favor by the Clippers bumbling front office.
Just saying, every story of Paul George that has come out in his career regarding how he interacts with the management, has made him seem like a reasonable guy. For him to walk on nothing, I wanna lean towards his story more
Based on what the Clippers did to Blake, I wouldn’t trust them to not trade me either.
Lol y'all only bring up one player lol. Before you start talking. Please read about the new cba lol.then talk. They could not trade pg if they gave him a new deal. No team would trade for that
@@donnellbrown4575 because that’s the player that got signed to a massive deal and then shipped off afterwards by this exact team. It’s called common sense, try it some time.
@@thepiratepenguin_facts they did Blake Griffin Dirty
@@donnellbrown4575 I can't think of a single other team who creates a mock jersey retirement for a player to convince them to resign, then immediately trades that player after they resigned.
why u acting like pg and blakes situation are comparable lmao clippers may have done blake dirty but they sure as hell didnt do pg dirty
They offered Harden more 😂
He was their best player too, PG was supposed to be the #1 if Kawhi got hurt but bro stayed a #2
He was the better player
@@sydguitar99bro stayed #3 😭🤡😂
@@tomek6132 desperation to keep their (now) 2nd best player after knowing PG is fr about leaving
Harden signed a 2 year $70 million deal. PG had a 3 year $150 million deal. How is $35 million/yr worth more than $50 million/year?
Dude has been a goat trade piece though. Got Indy Haliburton and OKC Shai.
That’s his best quality. Make other teams better and he will get u to the second round
I blame Kawhi for forcing the trade for PG. Clippers front office gave up way too much. It's now clear to everyone that PG wasn't even worth half the haul.
@@pfpchad2747 that was the cost to get Kawhi to come to the Clippers though
@@pfpchad2747it's ok, the owner is a billionaire anyways. He can afford to throw money around.
@@akirosakuragi9279 With his net worth, he can have 31 more clippers teams and it wouldn't hurt him at all but the problem is that he probably wants to win and it looks impossible for the next 6 years. It probably sucks to be the richest owner in the league and no matter how much money you throw at this problem, it cannot be fixed.
Giving Kawhi $50m and turning around and offering PG $30m is a bad look.
facts they was tryna play in his face u cant blame pg for feeling some way
@@ericveneto1593 sixers giving harden a 1plus 1 with team option on the 2nd year is a bad look also
right... and considering kawhi just didn't even play in the last playoffs how do you expect that???
Make one big mistake don't mean you gotta make another.
Kawhi when healthy and thats a big WHEN is still a tier above paul george. I understand health is everything but paul george has never led a team anywhere. Dude played with a prime,angry,hungry westbrook in OKC and couldnt even get out the first round. Lets talk facts if yall wanna be real
I can understand why the Clippers didn’t bite but at the same time when you give up as much as they did to get him you can’t just let him walk. Should’ve gave him the 3-year extension mid season
They should have traded him last season or in the years before.
he is the most inconsistent "star player" tbh
Sucks at the time but ppl will look back at this down the road and say the clips made the right choice
@@J0EN1DASUh, did Kawhi not know that when he held up the Clippers to get PG to their side of L.A.?
@@J0EN1DASim tryna tell this bro! dude shooting split aint that bad even in playoff but its legit like 1 game dude shot 55-60% then the next 2 playoff game dude shot like 35% 😂 thats why the playoffp is real lol
Paul George got a fully guaranteed max deal at age 35 after one healthy season in his 30s on a super desperate team 😬 I can't really fault the Clippers for not wanting to give him that same deal. It's time for the Clippers to try something else and stop giving the 5 fans they have false hope.
Pg is just like “it’s no big deal just pay my old ass $50,000,000 a year for the next 3 years. No matter of a fact how about y’all can’t just trade me anywhere. Ahh forget the no trade thing just throw in another $50,000,000. Wait what why won’t y’all agree to that ???!!!”
@@buddahkz9980 He wanted the same deal as Kawhi in the middle of the season, and they declined. That's the Clippers fault
Okay let's say your reasoning makes sense. Why did they give Kawhi a 3 year max then? He has been less reliable than PG the entire Clippers tenure.
@@buddahkz9980but it doesn’t make sense not to when they put everything in on this team.
PG has been more consistent than Kawhi these last 3 years. Kawhi's knee is irreversibly damaged
The fact that they let pg go but gave kawhi 153 million when he’s been injured about 80% of the time shows you everything you need to know about this franchise
You comment before watching the video? They got the same offer. One took it the other one didnt
@@Hirtelen-pf1dpbut not right away tho.
Not to mention how stupid they were giving up SGA and all those picks just to see PG fly fly awayyyy lol
kawhi played more games than pg. This is false information.
@@burrybondz225look up the stats. Kawhi played 68 games versus PG-13 played 74 last season. Kawhi wasn't even available in the playoffs.
The clippers GM thought he was buying a used bike on Facebook Marketplace
He kind of is
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He's worth $125 billion. Dropping $2 billion on the Clippers was pocket change considering it's probably worth twice as much now.
@@pfpchad2747 I'm talking about the 2yr-60M deal for PG. Low balling the shit out of that guy, just like I do when I want an old nightstand from FB Marketplace
And he's low-balling still 😂😂😂
The Clipper's owner is one of the richest people in the world and he tried to lowball PG. PG was often 1A on the Clippers because Kawhi was often injured. That offer was an insult.
Salary caps exist. Ballmer isn't cheap.
They would destroy their team if they gave him the 4th year. They would have ZERO room to make ANY roster moves. Wouldn't even be able to use the MIL
Bro read the new rules you goof
@@christopherhejduk3291 Then give him 3 years. He would have taken that
PG has proven nothing. He hasn’t won nothing. I’d rather take a Kawhi who can take us all the way.
Kinda makes sense now why the Clippers dropped from #1 seed to 6th seed around all star break…
PG realizing the Clippers weren’t tryna budge and give him what he wanted prolly messed his groove and the teams chemistry.
If the Clippers would’ve never dropped so hard and kept competing with OKC, Wolves and Nuggets for the top seeds, who knows how the playoffs would’ve played out
Yeah that typa shit isolates ur stars in the locker room
he said so
Kawhi’s probably still injured for the playoffs though
@@rob.j.g nah it wasn’t something serious that’s why he’s playing now in the Olympics. He just wasn’t 100% and tried playing 2 games against the Mavs but was hurting the team instead.
I’m sure if they had an easier matchup where he could’ve rest. He would’ve been fine for the next series
@@geefryherrera3261 It was serious enough that he was unable to play, bad enough that he literally had a negative impact being on the floor. He can play in the olympics because had more than 2 months to recover from this injury but a not serious injury is something like those boys on the Knicks who were all playing through their injuries through the entire playoffs run
The reason they're not the same is because a healthy Kawhi=championship, a healthy PG=early vacation. Ijs. However, Kawhi will probably never be healthy again and PG needs to be a number 2 or 3 somewhere with a healthy player. So I'm not too sure how it will work considering he chose another unhealthy player to play with. Sometimes I think these mfs don't want to win but idk.
Kawhi has degenerative knees, it’s not physically possible for him to be healthy for a full season and postseason
Ain't no way they offered Harden more than PG lol
Harden was much better in the playoffs, and Harden is historically much better than pg, stop the bs talk
The 2 years 60 millions is wild, his ego obviously got hurt , so he started adding stuff like no trade clause and a 4th year , i think after that initial offer he was outta there and he was trying to find reasons to leave and asked for things he knew they wouldn't give him
I think the pivot they made from not giving the kawhi contract and then offering it raised some eyebrows. It’s almost like the clippers tipped their hand - if he signed chances are the clippers likely run it back for a year and then use PG as a trade chip for assets and to get out of the second apron. PG realized this and wanted to control his destiny
if they decided to give him the same deal as Kawai from the very beginning they would have never been in the situation they are but they decided to play games and they got what they deserve and if Kawai Harden gets hurt, they’re the lottery team and the OKC thunder will literally have a top-tier pic
@@21danny17 and control his destiny he should....man has a family to take care of
@@justtimes9257 Clippers now have the bleakest future in the NBA
They have no assets, no picks, no draw. The moment Harden and Kawhi leave or retire the team is going to return to the 80s for at least another decade
@@jonathand.t.5051 exactly unless they trade kawhi and Harden
They should have gave the max to pg and did this to Leonard at least he dont rest half season
Yeah he played 70 games in a contract year. Guarantee you PG plays 50-60 games next year
No instead all he does is average 19 in the playoffs on 30% from the field. This dude didn't even score 17 points per game in games 5 or 6. Not only is he not worth a Max contract, I'd argue he's not worth $30 mil a year.
I looked at their games played and it’s hard to believe, but Kawhi has played more games as a clipper and has been the more healthy star
No injury-prone 34 year old should get a max (and yes Kawhi shouldn't get it either). $30M per year is what this dude is worth anymore
@@jakegoldberg6700PG has played 49 more games than Kawhi for the Clippers
Tbh with how it all went down, PG’s demands were relatively understandable. Philly defo had the max on the table for him during all of this once free agency started, and I believe he wanted to stay a Clipper but also wanted some control of his career. The Clippers have heavily under performed and there’s a genuine possibility they split everything up in the next 3/4 years and players lose their opportunity to dictate their landing spots. On top of that, the blatant disrespect in January probably nailed it there and then.
With the exception of 2021, they've largely underperformed because of him directly. And it's ridiculous to me that $30 million a season for an injury prone 34-year-old is " blatant disrespect".
@@lafif1707 stop talking rubbish....pg has been carrying clippers because kawhi always hurt....give the man his dam respect
Kawhi wanted George to come or he would have gone somewhere else. So you offer Harden more, and let George leave.... what?
Did Kawhi get a little over $150M? In any event, I can see why after months he wouldn't want the deal without the no-trade clause. If they say they want you there and you want to be there, why not add the no-trade clause so that he feels comfortable after it took months to get to that number. That would make one feel leery at that point. And as he said, if they decided to trade him during that time, he could be somewhere getting paid less than what he could have gotten and not in LA where he wanted to be. Hence, why he would accept that deal.
Shit is crazy how they offered Kawhi 3 years 153mil but dude barely plays
George old man
Kawhi is the only reason they can contend
@@aymandopkawhi misses half to the majority of seasons
@@CovfefeDotard There is no reason for them to be mediocre, they'd rather have the chance to contend or be bad than fall off over time as PG and harden age
Kawhi actually took a pay cut.
the clippers fumbled its simple
fumbled yes they did. They had SGA on their team and then they traded him away plus a bunch of picks to OKC.
@@chan13153 nobody knew Sga was gonna be this good
Plus me personally picks don’t matter unless it’s top3
If your team ain’t good at identifying talent or developing it than picks don’t matter anyway
@@nitoshadow You personally guess that makes it correct lol. Tons of good draft picks were from players chooses after #3. Just bc u said it doesn't matter doesn't make it right. They drafted SGA. They knew why OKC wanted him. But they were pressured by Kwahi. The big reasons why OKC is in such a great spot right now is bc of the deals they made at the end of Westbrook's and PG era in OKC.
They traded SGA and a bunch of young players, Tons of draft picks. Clippers were a scrappy young team b4 Kwahi got there. They were tough against the Warriors with KD. They just had to keep it going, but instead they traded for PG and signed Kwahi only to watch those 2 load manage. They def fumbled the bag big time..
@@nitoshadow Although the argument here is kinda true, almost anyone who watched his rookie season knew that he was at least gonna be a solid #2 next to Kawhi. Hindsight is 20/20, and it is kinda hard to predict what would've happened if he never played next to CP3.
They fumbled the initial trade get PG. But they were right to let him walk. Wish they could have gotten back some peices but oh well.
The Clippers are just a very cursed franchise in my opinion. 😬
Paul George talking out both sides of his mouth:
"I just want what Kawhi got"
"Actually٫ I want something more"
Clippers paid the wrong player 😂
Not really.
Pretty much
disagree. You can't have PG13 as your best player. NEither player deserves 3 year $150mil
They’ve been paying the wrong players for YEARS
If you offer an All NBA Player only 2 Years 60 Mil then you probably wanted him to leave anyway.
He's not an all NBA player he just made all star 😂
Hes still a top 25 player, thats all NBA caliber
@@TobiTobiTobi1 I disagree
@@ruthj2359 name 24 better
It's insane to me that 3 years 150 million is considered taking less. Nba contracts are insane!
A lockout I feel like is coming in the next 5 years idk if the cba is up soon but it’s joever when it is
@@drewelric118 It’s Less when other teams are offering you 4 years guaranteed $212
As with the clippers after 3 years he will struggle to get max dollars….
Look at Russ, or Harden
@@the_one1001 it can be less and the point of NBA contracts being insane still stands. I understand that it’s not as much, tough to feel for someone who plays a game for a living thinking I’m worth more than 150 million over the next 3 years
@@drewelric118 less & more are concepts relative to the profession, compared to us guys sure it’s alot, but it wouldn’t be less if he was not able get more with another team…
If someone offered him 300 for 4 years, then his current contract would be less again…
Just wait till we see what wembys supermax extension will be, I predict 5 years 80m per (on his first deal)
It makes it harder to trade these players as well. Look at Zack Lavine.
The whole situation is funny, Clippers low balled on the first offer and PG has an Ego, so he got mad.
2 years $60m for PG is wild though
@@SportingLogicallyhe deserves $20mil/yr with that playoff performance
if i was a gm which im obv not i would’ve let him walk and cut my losses
“PG has an Ego” isn’t exactly fair, I mean his talents at his size is literally the most valuable thing in the entire NBA, he and his camp knew what his market looked like, the Clips could’ve at least matched what he wanted considering he’s gonna last longer than Kawhi.
To put it in perspective, Jerami Grant’s deal is better than 2 at $60m and Grant’s deal is now considered being a bargain for role players with the new CBA. That offer to PG was disrespectful.
@@RevivedBeast184 Isnt that exactly what happened?
Bro what are these ai generated comments
Gonna need to hire someone just to get rid of them apparently
@@SportingLogicallywtf this is a first, I’m guess you doing big things then. 😂😂
I’ll do it on a 4 year 50k no trade clause contract. I really don’t want to go to another channel.
@@buddahkz9980 bros driving a hard bargain
@@SportingLogicallyI got you. I work a from home IT job anyways half my day is spent on RUclips.
Players have got to understand that a no-trade clause is basically death to their market value unless they're willing to take less money.
I really thought he was only using the sixers as leverage and in my opinion the sixers shld have gone for high level roleplayers
Sixers front office has been playing a fun little game where they try and slowly destroy all the assets they got from the process and call themselves contenders despite their overreliance on one guy to get them to the postseason.
@@moomie1634fr
@@moomie1634what are you talking about? Morey has reloaded our picks including 2 picks from the Clippers, he got a 3rd star, and filled out the team with good role players. This free agency was a Morey masterclass
PG will be great during the regular season, except when he sits out due to injury. It's the playoffs where Sixers fans will realize that PG wasn't worth the contract.
@@pfpchad2747 all he has to do is be better than Tobias Harris
PG Greedy. Clippers signed literally every player he wanted, and gave him more control of the offense when he complained and then got Harden and Westbrook when PG complained it was annoying bringing the ball up all the time. They wnated him and Kawhi on the same timeline for contracts with 3 years. He greedy leaving all that for one more year
Would you turn down an extra $62m?
Their first offer was less than they paid harden… they definitely didn’t plan on him leaving. there’s no way they would choose this the first year they get their own arena.. forced them to pay harden more
His podcast was great, im not a sixers fan but when he talked about the pitch with dr j is where the nba fan in me was like damn
Bro, there's always room on the Sixers bandwagon for a new Sixers fan...Come on aboard..😅😅
@@michaelcarney8496 I’m actually a season ticket holder, been a fan since I was in middle school, I wrote that to see how many die hard sixer fans look at the comments on videos like this, you win- you a real 1! 10,9..8 baby!
Thank you for seeing both sides here. He renegotiated two big factors about that Kawhi offer, that was NOT the same deal Kawhi got anymore 😅
As a Clippers fan, it upsets me we gave Kawhi the money instead of PG
Talent wise, yes, Kawhi is better player. But PG has been out there more and was playing both last postseason and against the Suns in the WCF.
Shouldn’t you reward the guy who plays instead of the guy who doesn’t?
they just thinking about keeping their "star" to attract fans for their stadium
@@wadepeters7373Which is soulless and fans won’t show up anyway once Kawhi is hurt, and we’re 8 games under .500 by the deadline
yeah how the clippers gon say they not gon trade him but not give him a no trade clause
PG put his all into last season to secure that contract, I highly doubt we’ll ever see him play that many games again
PG thinks he’s worth the same as kawhi on a contending team??
2 years 60 is crazy tho
He's worth more cuz he doesn't get injured every time, only some of the time
Basically he didn’t want to get Blake Griffin’ed
He also said he didn’t wanna leave the pacers I don’t trust him at all
I remember!
at the end of the day its business....the man has a family to take care of
@@wadepeters7373 True, you can still call him out for being a lying clown doe.
when he wore the Philly kobes last season… he was trynna tell us
This what happened. Clippers offered 2/$30 mil as incentive for george to play as many games and they would renegotiate based on if he coould play games healthy. He did and they gave kawhi deal of 3 years not 4. Paul wanted 4, so agreed based on nonsensical no trade clause, thinking he could say ok take away no trade clause but give me 4 years. Clippers gave kawhi 3 not 4 on purpose so were against 4th year to george as well.
George wanted 4th year..so he left..thats all that happened.
I don't think there's any point trying to rationalise what the Clippers FO are doing/thinking 😂
they seriously extended their best (but always injured) player without consulting their 2nd best on the figures AND THEN extend them together
they just assumed he wouldn't leave at all or that he would even take less than what Kawhi took
It changed in the broadcast booth when Embiid walked in and said, "Hey come play in Philly"
The clippers didn’t fumble, they wanted George gone!
Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown are everything Kawhi and PG wanted to be
Honestly Paul George is very unprofessional with having a podcast n what he decides to talk about is always negative light where he was at or who he played with regardless it’s never his fault n he always tries to “expose” the people who messed it up for him.
Great reporting on this one! 🎉🎉
I can understand not wanting to pay that much for a group who will be at the end of the 30s when the deals end but it sort seems like the Clippers went into this not understanding that everyone, including PG, would know every detail of Kawhi'd deal. Even if it wasn't public they could have been talking privately.
He said he wanted about the same as Kawhi got, then he got offered that and didn’t take it cause he wanted a no trade clause, he has a ego
maybe its cuz how the clippers was treating him its the principle
Its about the time and trust
Probably a combination of the lowball first offer and Philly showing commitment to max him out. Gotta sweeten the deal somehow.
idk if your leaving stuff out on purpose or not, but the Clippers initially declined that deal mid-season and he obviously felt disrespected. He got better offers in Free Agency and gave Clippers a counter, which they declined. They coulda had him locked up before Free Agency, but they obviously didn't want him as much as Kawhi
He only wanted the clause because he felt that the Clippers were going to swindle him. Why would they come back with the Kawhi offer (which they originally refused) all of a sudden now?
W/o that clause, PG ends up being traded and loses out on his money while the Clippers gain back some assets. I don't blame him at all
As an Orlando fan, this is the Clippers equivalent to the Magic and Shaq.
Mike Conley also has a no trade clause
No-trade clause is a poison-pill for the front office, especially given the Beal scenario. No one in their right mind would hand those out anymore, especially for a 35 y.o. who have already reached his max and likely on the decline.
I understand that players gots to get theirs, but at the end of the day the team is looking out for the team, not to cater for a couple of players exclusively.
Hi Tucker!
It sounds like PG grew doubt from them saying no at first for so long just to turn around and say yes, so he probably looked at it as if I'm signing three years, I wanna be here for the three years, but if you wanna trade me down the line, at least I got my four years that I would have signed anyways.
Its very simple:
1) Paul George is not on the level of Kawhi, never has been
2) Paul George played last time in playoffs in 2021, beside 2024, so he is basically same injury prone like Kawhi.
3) You literally need to pay more to 2 time NBA champ and FMVP, not the historical choker, who George clearly is.
4) Maybe 35 a year is ok deal for the level of PG game atm, cause Harden was better player and he got 70/2 contract.
PG did great for himself. He gets $216 million for 4 years, Embiid, and Maxey as teammates and a better chance to win a championship. Good for him. I also think with that second apron thing the Clippers did the right thing. They wasn't winning the championship with him and they not without him, so why pay PG?
Soo... they were to cheap to pay both and now are paying for it... I guess you can take the Clippers out of Donald Sterling, but you can't take Sterling out of the Clippers
Wow I heard the narrator’s voice and thought is that flight Mike
Facts
I think part of his reasoning changing was just reflecting back on the season and the offers he’d been given. The Clippers notoriously signed Blake to the max and hung his jersey in the rafters just to trade him less than a year later. PG probably views himself as being in a similar situation. The org clearly favored Kawhi based on the negotiations so it was likely that George would get a lot of blame if the team continued underperforming and he’d be the one sent out the door to siberia or wherever he doesnt want to play for real. So he decided to do what was best for himself and go to the Sixers where it might not be a city he knows but the team is built to win and he gets all his money.
Clippers did the right thing. He's had years to prove what he's worth.
As a Sixers fan I agree with whatever 8 Ball Paul said
Nice job with the new branding! 💪🏽
It certainly does not feel like Paul George really WANTS to be in Philly. He's not making any secret about having wanted to stay in LA, and his second choice was to play with Steph in Golden State. He's clearly only in Philly because they were basically the only team that could pay him, which makes me wonder about good of a fit it'll truly end up being. Kind of reminds me of Al Horford signing with the Sixers, but leaving his heart in Boston.
“I never wanna leave Indiana.”
“I’ll never leave OKC”
“I wanna stay in LA”
Oh ok whatever man
The Clippers had valid reasons for not re-signing PG, but they are flaming hypocrites. They understandably didn't wanna give max money to an aging, injury-prone star... but that's exactly what they did with Kawhi. Speaking of Kawhi, I think that he should get more blame than he's getting for the Kawhi-PG era failing. PG is not worth $50 million a year at this point in his career, especially not with his playoff struggles, but it's not like Kawhi is a much better option at this point. I think the Clippers extended him based on what their team COULD be WHEN he is healthy, which is ALWAYS the problem: WHEN he's healthy. I feel like he's been getting passes over the last few years due to his stoic personality and his playoff success compared to PG, but his past successes have nothing to do with right now. PG may be gone now, but their issues are still there.
Paying PG was the best of the available options the Clippers had to choose from.
I don't blame PG for leaving yet at the same time, I don't blame the franchise for not wanting to pay two injury prone players and a travelling machine the max with nothing to show for it
Clippers tried to call his bluff and lost. Too much time to think and it backfired on them. Congrats PG.
is there a option for like a 10- team not trade clause ? like in hockey ,, if there isnt that is something the player should try to get in the next cba ....its a good middle ground it doesn't toally handcuff the team and the player has some control where he doesn't go
Give a player in his mid 30s who was a no show in his final two playoff games a full max? Yeah no. I like how people want to say he deserves the money because of how he played during the regular season but yet when he was a Clipper, they brought up how bad he was in 2020 during that playoff run lol.
No trade wasn't going to happen, it was silly even to ask. It was a leverage play to try to get the 4th year and the Clippers were not going to do it either. So in the end it was either accepting the Kawhi deal or leaving, he chose to leave and it's not like Morey won't trade him either, but he got his 4th year.
I'm sure there is truth to what PG said but I don't think he's an entirely reliable narrator of events. Maybe he left because he wanted the full four year max. Moreover, Embiid is less of an injury risk than Kawhi and gives Paul a better chance at winning a championship.
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in 5 years, PG played 263 matches of regular season, and tbh to me that's worth 30 Mil in the cap space, except if you win every match you make a appearance in. And now he joins a franchise with absolutely no history of injuries for his stars.. oh wait.
Clips disrespected him when they didn’t want to give him that initial offer. So when they came back he said “yesterday’s price is not today’s price.” That’s why u gotta strike when the irons hot
I can't hate on Kawhi getting the bag. but lets be honest you can't blame the clippers. lets be really really honest. their mistake was not blowing this team up.
doesnt matter too much, its not like PG would have really put them in title contention based on lets see, the past 4 years
Kind of left out the Warriors part of this story
This is also probably why he rejected his option. He didnt want the clippers to dictate where hes gonna go. He got screwed, he screwed them back. Seems like an even trade
He's not a Clipper because the Sixers offered 4 years at 56 million per. No way he was going to turn that down.
Sign JT Thor
My boy PG got his bag. Wish him nothing but success in Philly. LAC let this man walk and kept Harden. Clippers are the most cursed team in NBA history
60 mil for two years is a good deal. He’s in his mid-30’s. I’m tired of theses mid and late thirty year olds asking for max level contracts. And I’m 36!!
Probably more so that them not offering him the deal same time as Kawhi shows that his place there is not secure so he wanted added security. Seems fair enough to me
To be honest, Kawhi destroyed the Clippers by asking for PG and then telling Toronto to also bid for PG. Clippers front office had SGA and 5 1st round picks. They were too desperate to become relevant and lost everything. They should have traded Podcast P when they realized that he was either not available in the postseason or choking.
George isn’t Kawhi, not even close. They are not the same.
Harden in Paul out
9:29 I was with you until you said the Clippers didn't think they would lose PG in free agency. They knew they were going to lose him. Made a decision to let him go and only time will tell if it was the right one. Paul isn't a spring chicken, and hasn't made an all-nba team since 2021. Will he be the missing piece in Philadelphia? Will he stay healthy? I guess we'll see.
Just what Philly needs, another star player that doesnt want to be there.
7:54 PG didn't want to be DeRozaned
in essence, the Sixers and Clippers traded Harden for George. The Clippers got Harden for less money than the Sixers would have had to pay him and for less years. The Clippers know they arent winning a championship if PG stayed or not, so why pay him all that money. they can use that money on other players to see what they can do.
Clippers didn’t want PG. They could have kept him and let Harden walk if they wanted to stay under the 2nd apron but they chose Harden because he was cheaper.
Clippers need stars to sell tickets but are looking at a “rebrand” in the next couple years. They aren’t going to tank, instead they will be a fringe playoff team and have all their contracts expire at the same time and build a new team from scratch through free agency.
It’s likely also the reason they turned down the Warriors. They didn’t want to be a 2nd apron team by matching salaries with the Warriors and probably didn’t feel like Kuminga was worth the contract he will likely be offered this next offseason.
That’s absolutely insane. LA legit paid the wrong dude. Glad I ain’t a Clippers fan I know they punchin air rn
No one who watches the Clippers every day thinks PG is in the same stratosphere as Kawhi. Both regularly injured, both good dudes, but PG is basically a trainwreck every 3rd game and is never good as Kawhi on his best day.
LET PAUL GEORGE TALK !!!!!
I doubt his attention from the sixers made him ask for the no trade clause but I think it influenced him to want the max 4 yr
The CBA is the honest answer though. Teams cannot maintain two supermax players and expect to be competitive. They get one supermax two just under that and then everybody else gets a s***** contract. That's just the way it's going to be until a new CBA is negotiated 10 years from now or whenever the current one expires
I think they are just salty about trading sga for pg and unfairly took it out on Paul George
Kawhi is the better player but there is no way he deserves more money than Paul George. George actually plays the games.
The Clippers are gonna Clipper.
Anyone noticed theyve never won a title?
Hell, theyve NEVER been to the Finals.
They have the richest owner in the league, their own stadium, are in a huge market, and they are still
IRRELEVANT.
PG doesnt realize it, but he was done a favor by the Clippers bumbling front office.
Paying Kahwi $50mil just so he can sit out half the season and get swept in the first round 😂 Dude did the smart thing.
Just saying, every story of Paul George that has come out in his career regarding how he interacts with the management, has made him seem like a reasonable guy. For him to walk on nothing, I wanna lean towards his story more
Look this may be on the clippers this time but PG has said he never wants to leave for every team hes been on lol