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5 Steps to Better Understanding When to Shoot RAW vs JPEG | Mastering Your Craft
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In this episode, Pye is talking all about shooting in RAW vs. JPEG. He will teach you the differences in quality and flexibility when working with one vs the other as well as when you should use one over the other.
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Nobody realize how good the microphone sounds.
Literally the first thing I noticed was how pleasing his voice was in that microphone.😂
Compressed JPEG image is not good for printing and editing, but good for fast sharing.
Finally a serious RAW vs JPEG video, unbiased and with right example images. Well done
Uncompressed RAW image recovers more image data faster but larger file size compared to compressed JPEG image.
As someone who is starting a hobby out of photography, this video helped out a lot in understanding raw & jpeg scenarios.
If you want to share image with others, choose JPEG. Or if you want to retain all image data for editing and printing, then you should choose RAW as the best.
@@giaptheson what if i want to upload it to Instagram after the editing? Can't i convert raw to jpg after editing?
I never really thought about it. I hear people say, "I ONLY SHOOT RAW". I get stuck in that mind set of only shooting Raw. But you're right, Raw isn't always needed. Family picnic (or family gathering) is a perfect example. Other EXCELLENT video.
Aren't those the times when raw is most needed? For example, imagine you are having a picnic and you spot the rare sight that is a squirrel. The in-camera jpeg processing may not properly and accurately reproduce all of the tones of cuteness of the squirrel, or the noise reduction may result in some loss of fine detail, thus further limiting the amount of cuteness captured. With raw files, you can ensure that only the cutest combination of values for each pixels makes it into your final export. Happiness will then spread through the world as the cuteness of the squirrel is shared with all.
@@Razor2048 Also don't forget, with a JPEG file, every time you open said image on a computer or from a hard drive, that image slowly degrades over time, in which case I would covert said image to TIFF instead.
Lossy compression doesn't recover image data, therefore it has poor quality than lossless one.
These people don't know how to get right exposure, so they shoot everything in -3 EV and then fix it in editor.
Definitely one of the better videos on this subject and also at least three Lightroom features I didn't know about before. This is enough to make me want to look at all your other work.
My current process (non 'professional' photography): shoot JPEG + RAW, do a first pass of deleting unnecessary images on camera itself (which gets rid of each pair), then import JPEGs only into Lightroom, look at the JPEGs full screen - identify any that are challenging and if necessary import RAW for those too, discard rest of RAW. With the exception that if the photos are for something especially important, or someone else may need to process them one day, I might as well retain the RAW files.
Also 'processing' means different things to different people - wherever possible I like to get the histogram right on the camera (and the Fuji cameras do an amazing job with white balance), but I still might make subtle tweaks to the overall exposure or highlights or saturation in Lightroom - and I'd argue you can do that absolutely fine with a correctly exposed JPEG. The other things I enjoy doing don't have much to do with levels, but still make a big difference to the image: cropping, levelling, fixing perspective, post-crop vignette, spot removal, maybe slight tweaks to parts of the image with the Color panel (and of course, assigning keywords). To the best of my knowledge, lack of RAW makes no difference to any of that (I guess the obvious exception is performance of masks).
The other workflow comment I'd make: if you're (and anyone reading this probably is) someone who takes time to get the exposure etc. right in camera, it's a bit frustrating / hard on yourself to have to do all that again every single time in Lightroom (whether by setting all the sliders manually, or using Auto then inevitably having to fix everything Lightroom did that you don't like). I'm trying to avoid that and maybe have a slightly fast import experience / less anxiety about disk space at the same time.
When he said "it's got nothing to do with RAW files, but I have to fix it fix it fix it", I felt that
Excellent, clear and well-balanced discussion of the issues involved.
JPEG image processes faster but has low quality than RAW image.
Excellent topic. I shoot sports for a newspaper and a college. They want fast delivery. I shoot portraits and families, they need processing. I've shot RAW for years because I was taught it was the way to go - period. But so many events are in dark school gyms, I went to JPG recently as the camera does a better job than LR presets. I don't see that much of a speed improvement between the two as my laptop is pretty quick, but JPG saves a few seconds per image on any enhancements and those seconds add up. It's also less stress.
Very good video to explain when shooting raw is needed and when jpeg is sufficient. I like your decision tree method.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! It hits my stage of photography perfectly!
I shoot in jpeg simply when I know I’m not going to edit 🤷♂️
true😂
This
Great video. Love the decision tree on choosing between RAW and JPG.
So helpful and informative. Thank you!
3:34 Glad to see a Canon user acknowledge that (5D IV for example has around 13.6 stops of DR compared to 14.6 on a Nikon Z7). Usually people get angry and all worked up if you just state the fact that Canon for whatever reason has lagged in the DR for several years now. Sony has been doing very well in that area and since some other brands use Sony sensors they get the benefit of that too. DR is not the only thing that matters, but it matters to me mostly because I like smooth transitions between highlights and shadows and how that makes the image look. I'm not one to beat an image to death in post with raising shadows 4-5 stops (I'd rather delete the file before I do that in most cases)...so that's not the reason I mention DR. Overall I just like the look of an image that has more DR because the highlights and shadows are more evened out, for lack of a better way to say it. And regarding JPG vs RAW, yeah I don't think I really need a ton of raw files for a little family gathering. Who needs to edit all that? ;-)
Funny thing is that I actually used RAW for the first time yesterday... and it was for a family BBQ. :') Then I ended up watching this video. In the end, the BBQ was a great exercice to experiment more with semi-manual mode + and RAW editing, so don't hesitate to use any opportunities to practice your photography skills, hehe.
Great video sir ! :) Liked the soothing voice and the use of the comparisons.
Good information
Great explanations, thank you!
You make a it all make sense! I'm going to watch more of your videos
Thank you Pye, for clarifying this subject. It was quite helpful for an old analog/film photographer like myself. Your tutorials are well thought out and not confusing or
convoluted like others I've viewed.
Thank you Pye for that explanation. In my opinion though, I would shoot both RAW + JPEG for everything, even if you know you're not going to need to process said images (at least not right away anyway). And I say not right away anyway, because how do you know that said image isn't going to be important down the road? Think of RAW files as digital negatives. Because one major downside of JPEG files is that, say you archive said JPEG images onto an External HDD or SSD. Unless you convert said images to TIFF (which for the beginner is another format that's related to JPEG but better), every time you open a JPEG image, that image degrades slowly over time. As Pye said though, the only exception are press photographers who NEED to shoot JPEG for their line of work.
Thanks for the time and information.
Great video, thanks. Your mic sounds great.
An important subject and well covered by yourself. Thank you!
Basically get it right in camera and the jpeg can look just as good. Problem with the demo is the shot is basically done wrong. If you are trying to get the extra dynamic range you would use exposure bracketing or hdr mode. It is ilogical to expect high dynamic range jpeg files if you don't set the camera up for it. You could also sometimes 0ut a gradient filter on the lens. The white balance should also be set right in camera but still it's usually easily corrected even on jpeg. It almost all comes down to the choice to either be a good thorough photographer or be an editor with lots to fix. Even with jpegs I think they require at least a good bit of post to get the most out of them so I don't think it forgoes the need to edit.
I was going to bring this up. Of course, it's a photo by the sea with waves crashing etc, so if you take bracketed shots you're reliant on Lightroom being able to merge that correctly (my Fuji camera has an in-camera HDR which merges 3 shots into a single RAW file, I don't know how well it'd cope with a scene like this). I think a lot of it depends on your camera - on the Fuji there is a dynamic range value - 100 (normal), 200, 400 etc. but using the higher ones requires higher ISOs, so it depends how much sensor noise there is (i.e. size/quality of sensor)
Very good, usefull and well done video ! There are so many urban legends saying that today shooting raw is useless ! I always shoot raw+jpeg exactly for the reasons you explained.
I would say that the software has improved a lot today. I have done new raw processing of old pictures taken with my old D200 and the result is quite better today with new software (noise reduction).
Great video thanks. Also, got to say, I've watched a load of RUclips the last two days and your microphone sounds the best hands down!
Amazing information, I really learned a lot. Thanks
Pye your videos are worth watching for your voice alone. 😎
It also helps that your videos have very, VERY valuable content.
That decision tree is really helpful, well explained, thanks!
Good job Pye.. I really enjoy the vids you post. Your execution and delivery are clear and concise .. Have u ever done any workshops in the eastern states maybe Cleveland or pittsburg areas??
Thank you for these explanations
Beautiful video bro
MANY THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO! I'm a JPEG kind of Nikon guy, but I'm willing to try RAW and risk using all of my computer file space! LOL Thanks again...
Good INFO!
RAW + JPEG one has a reference in jpeg to create an image, otherwise, we may have something totally different from what we saw in mirrorless.
One learns photography better using the jpeg.
Good to discard the notion of being a pro and learn photography.
Great video. I had no idea what raw in photography ment before seeing this video
That mic sounds incredible!!
Your mic sounds fantastic. Lol loved the remarks you made re: straightening the horizon 😂👍. Great video, thank you!
Excellent breakdown of RAW vs JPEG. Very well thought out and presented Thank you!
Fantastic video, very useful information. And very well explained. Thanks for sharing.
Many Thanks for this (saved) comparison & decision tree. Recently, I prefer making jpeg photos when composing and shooting: Time saving & a much more human touch than a full robotic and cold perfect Raw followed by hours of postprod.
Relying on Fuji simulation films: to be choosen, as well as WB, HDR, before composing, shooting. Final image can be checked on site & ready to share. Et voilà!
thank you! Very helpful for this amateur!
simple just shoot both together and u got it covered. tons of room on duel card cameras (cards are huge these days) so no issues running out space.
I dont need my photos seconds or minutes later. So I always shoot in raw. Still prefer raw for family events etc., dont see the post processing later as a hurdle, prefer the raw details in case I need them later.
Thank you so much, Clear and very useful.
Thanks. Your insights help a lot.
So great video! Thank you so much ❤️
Great advice Pye thanks for sharing.
The time I spent was 💯% helpful, to this newbie.
I have my canon 5D4 saves RAW and JPG in separate cards. I generally use the jpg files only. The RAW files are kept as backup and also for the rare occasion when I need to pull drastic adjustment.
I do bracketing and fill in flash in difficult situation.
The camera does a better job than the Lightroom presets.
Vacation and family pictures only for me. What’s going to be the easiest way to get great photos? We do a lot of landscape and wildlife on vacation. Shooting with a Pen ep7 (like the portability) and will edit on Rawtherapee or GIMP (haven’t used either but using free software)
Wow! Thank you so much for this. Much needed. Subscribed! 👍🏽
thank you , it really make sense what you just said
Excellent video! So helpful!
Well said and I totally enjoy your content.
While the basic point is clear, the blitz through the myriad editing software variables is bewildering. How many of them, in what ways and to what extent are worthy of one's attention in rendering a finished product?
You may end up forgetting which file you're shooting at. I'm just a casual shooter and I regretfully did mistake of shooting JPEG for high DR stuffs. From there on, I always shoot RAW.
Fuji does this very correctly. In body raw converter. I really hope other maker does the same.
Thank you. I feel better about shooting in jpeg. Because I shoot a lot of photos in a single shoot and I really try to get the shot "in the camera" I also thought your jpeg shot was more realistic. The image is back lit, you should not have all that information of the rocks, they should be in shadow as much as the subject is.
Taking advantage of the end of lockdown to take up a secondary hobby in photography. Raw vs JPEG really seems to be a huge debate, kinda like thermal paste in PC building, doing it the popularly "right" way only really matters for those doing highly custom work.
Pye speaking the truth. Still lost to the world's best photographer : Lee Morris.
But great advices, nonetheless. Thanks Pye !
no he didn't, also he took over f-stoppers too
but all this could be said in 2min instead the 20 min video ;)
lol, not for long! Next challenge results are coming soon ;)
Thank you very nice and clear
RAW is the best quality. JPEG is easy, quick, and for people who a lazy.
If you don't care about quality and letting a computer process your images go for JPEG.
I do agree sometimes JPEG should be used for fast sharing but I recommend RAW+JPEG when you need the best but want to share some shots fast.
TBH if I'm taking photos like a party or family event I am using my phone because I'm just documenting images for social media I don't need to carry a better camera and shoot JPEG.
I know you should keep your camera with you at all times but sometimes it is better to enjoy being in the moment not shooting away like a photographer documenting not enjoying the event or family.
Still a great video Pye for people who don't know the difference.
Edit the image in post? Huh?Iit sounds so cool to you.
Nice video. Thanks.
Well explained 👍🏾
What would you do without Photoshop? Before this tool and digital cameras photographers took perfect pictures?
Great video. But why does everybody reduce RAW-abilities to Lightroom-abilities? There are so many and even better RAW-processors. Some are even better adopted to the camera makers than adobe stuff. And some of those are even free.
Just save your RAWs for future progress.
I like this
Great video although thought the decision between shooting RAW and JPEG was decided once and for all when High speed 128GB SD cards dropped to $30. :)
Lol. Bought one not 10 mins ago.
Questions to ask yourself if deciding to shoot jpeg instead of raw.
1: Did you spend a lot of money on your camera equipment in order to get better quality, but wish you could get lower quality results? (then shoot jpeg)
2: Do you believe that imperfect software and hardware will give you perfect results 100% of the time? (then shoot jpeg)
3: Do you wish that you had fewer stops of dynamic range? (then shoot jpeg)
4: Do you wish that 14-16 bit per channel ADC that made up a large chunk of the price of your camera only gave you 8 bits per channel to work with? (then shoot jpeg)
Do I want to have fun using my cam?
Then shoot jpeg.
There is also the scenario 'i can't afford to shoot raw'
by this i mean i can only afford to get an entry level camera (M50) and half way decent glass (sigma 100-400)
i shoot wildlife action shots so i like to do fast burst which means 23 before buffer slows things down in jpeg and 8 in raw.
if i could afford a camera that can handle fast burst raw of 30+ then i would use raw.
I couldn't afford anything other than T6 with 18-55 lol
Formidable now I understand :) Very pleased that I am already "Subscribed" :)
Good video!
For an image with high dynamic range,should I shoot 1 raw photo or multiple jpegs with different exposures and then stack them together? What do you guys think will turn out "better"?
Ok, saved to be view....review...and review again and again =D
nice voice Pye...
Thank you for all your content, your channel has been really great. *Question,* if I'm just practicing my skills and getting to know my different lenses, would shooting in JPEG force me to be a more accurate photographer on site? I don't want to over-rely on editing, but at the same time I get some practice shots where I love the composition and artistry and would like to fine-tune the image later on, but can't since I've been shooting in JPEG. At the same time, hundreds of these shots are throwaways. I'm never sure which are which til I see them on a computer screen. Even though I'm shooting on an older crop sensor camera, I've invested in pretty good glass- not topline glass, but not kit lenses either, and the widest apertures I could buy (I have two f/1.4 lenses and a continuous aperture f/2.8 zoom). Please advise, thanks!
The issue is that jpeg does not work well for times when you want to maximize SNR. Ideally when practical, you need to saturate in camera and process in post. The goal should be to saturate the sensor as much as possible without clipping desired highlights, and then get the look you want in post.
My first camera was a kodak monitor six 20 I rescued out of my neighbors trash can back in 1958. Although an amature/hobbyist I have become decent with my Canon 80D. I have always shot jpeg but now want to shoot RAW. This video is a great incentive for me. Photograpy is fun.
thanks a lot you just make me think you are great !!
so if I shoot RAW with realtime lut, it doesn't come with the file when loaded on Lightroom for example?
Why there are more noise in raw
Very helpful. I guess for a wedding I should use raw? It’s a simple wedding. Not that fancy or big. Something family only.
Use JPEG
Great video👍
I will shoot jpeg to emulate analog film. Just develop or print its the final image or apply presets to save time
Is that photoshop he was using, does anyone know. What editing software was he using?
I just bought a camera and every image comes out noisy, there is even some noise in the bright images
So I make jewelry and am not a "photographer". I have a canon rebel T6 I use for my jewelry and have been afraid to shoot RAW. One of the comments I get frequently from customers is "it looks so much better in person". What that tells me is that my photos need to be better. The hardest thing to capture is the high polish silver. In your opinion, would I be able to edit those photos better shooting RAW, and is there somewhere I could learn as it would apply to jewelry or other small items with high reflection. No photo stacking please :) I;m in rural Vermont and don;t have access to in person training, but would be happy to pay for a course online.
Hi Pye, great video as always. I would like to know your opinion about RAW versus multiple JPEG EV bracketing? I tried this RAW processing and shadows looks awful after light up in PS. But when I shoot 3 or 5 JPEG with different EV settings after merging them together they looks lot better. I have to admit a lot more work but the results are lot better and cleaner image. I have seen professional photographers print outs from RAW editing, 100% shadows lifting and they were really ugly with lot of noise, colour shifting and lot of other issues. What do you think? Do you use EV bracketing with RAW?
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Uncompressed RAW image has the highest image quality and greatest detail compared to compressed JPEG image.
so if i edit may jpeg pic then it will make my pic low quality???
How do you get your camera on raw? I'm so confused about this... I understand its easier to edit but what about getting the camera set up to shoot in raw?
It depends on the camera you are using. It's in the menu. Try looking up "-my camera- set to RAW"
It depends on the camera, but usually in your menu it's under 'Image Format'. There may even be a setting for DNG (Digital NeGative, yes that is the way it's spelt) which is a general RAW format and not the RAW format your camera uses.
Hi, I have a doubt, in a photography competition they are asking to submit a raw photo, but I actually clicked my picture in a JPG format. Can I submit the JPG photo ??please reply
I just saw that the link for downloading photos is not working :( There is any posibility to have these photos, there is a link I could take from?
RAW has its benefits, but in this video JPEG looks better.
Your decision tree is wrong. You start out with a how decision. So lets take an apple pie as an illustration. I'm going to use an old military command tree as the starting point, the short form of it is called SMEAC, Situation - Mission - Execution (how) - Administration (includes logistics) - Communications. So back to the apple pie. Situation - a family Thanksgiving dinner, I want to prepare an apple pie for all to enjoy. Note this is not an apple pie to win the state fair, or an apple pie created to provide photographic steps to making an apple pie. I just want an apple pie for the family (JPEG). Mission - to create a family apple pie. Notice I still haven't got to the how yet, this comes next in execution. Your decision tree should really begin with a situation/mission statement or concept. Situation - family barbeque, Mission - photos to share with family and friends and to preserve a special memory. Execution - taking many photos in JPEG (the "good enough" format) to share on social media, emails, and maybe have one or two printed out in a photo book.
Does this work for mobile lightroom?
Great content... much appreciated!
I shoot JPEG because I'm lazy for editing and also I get to shoot more without running out the buffer. If the camera does the editing for me, why wouldn't I use my custom picture style.