Great job! The step by step dialogue, film quality and general way you lay things out is bar none. Really priceless for guys wrestling with a task like this for the first time. Keep it up!
Awesome, I'm glad the upgrade gets your approval. I went with a Goerend triple disc converter for my built 47rh. I'm a long way off from putting power to the ground, but I hope it's as noticeable of a difference as you describe.
Suncoast makes arguably some of the nicest torque converter’s money can buy greg abarella likes them a lot and I think they’re very good quality there’s other good people out there too but anyway this is six in a row jim in Kennerdell PA good job guy good job
Remember whenever you’re turning the engine over for anything whether you’re trying to find top dead center on number one so you can adjust your valves take the torque converter bolts out anything always turn it in the same rotation that the engine runs so that way you’re pulling oil up out of the oil pan into the oil pump otherwise you’ll be pumping the oil out of the pump not good not good anyway that’s something I think it’s a good way to go this is six in a row jim Oh by the way a guy named Jerry Ruth taught me that in Seattle Washington an old-time top fuel dragster guy he was extremely good at what he did so anyway remember always turn the engine in rotation that runs that we are not pumping oil out of the oil pump the oil pumpfrom Kennerdell Pennsylvania
Yep good point. Turning the barring tool counterclockwise actually turns the adaptor plate clockwise which i believe is the same rotation as the engine does. Great point
I would love to see you put an nv5600 6spd in your crew cab. I do not know of a good video on a swap like that for a 1st gen, and I would be very curious to see how hard it is to do. I have heard there is more fabrication in a six speed swap than in a five speed swap. Another great video!
A lot of work, but I'm sure it was worth it! It's all good wrenching fun anyways. So is the plan to take this tranny and put it in prospector bob then put a NV5600/G56 in the OG crew cab?
Hey Tim, Digging up an old one here, but I'm installing the 46RH Suncoast Converter on my A727 Loadflite w/o overdrive and seems like it's engaged with the pump lugs. I'm still seeing appx 1/2"~ protrusion, where the converter isn't perfectly flush with the housing. I can't tell by looking at yours if the converter was perfectly flush or slightly out. I may need to fiddle with it a bit more. Suncoast said to have pump gear 12 and 6, then install vertically.
I don't recall if mine was quite flush. I believe it sticks out just a tad. Put the flexplat on and measure from the flex plate to the edge of the adapter plate and that should be how much it sticks out
Alrighty! Thanks Tim, helped me so much throughout this rebuild. I’m trying to go off of both suncoast and the 727 fsm. Wasn’t sure how accurate the 727 fsm would be on page 57: Measure Torque Converter for full engagement: Make sure torque converter hub slots are also vertical and fully engage pump inner gear lugs. Test for full engagement by placing a straightedge on face of the case (Fig. 52). The surface of converter front cover lug should be at least 1/2 inch to rear of straightedge when torque converter is pushed all the way into transmission.
What transmission is this? 46RH/518? I can't seem to find a SFI flex plate for them. That's what I have. With 450hp to the wheels a stock unit will fail.
Does the guy that you mentioned about doing the transmission oil cooler lines have an Instagram? I don't have a Facebook 😭😭 Been needing these lines lol Thanks In advance & bad ass work appreciate you 🤙
im confused. i own a 1990 d250 cummins 2wd and my transmission looks similar to yours minus the transfer case and all. but apon further research it notes that i have the tourqeflite 727 3 speed. but yours a 4 speed correct? my confusing mostly is what the heck transmission do i have it has CAV 1 on the side, stock torque converter looks the same as the one you pulled out of your truck. and mostly from what i can only tell from the video same connections. im trying to purchase a tranny rebuild kit along with a torque converter but they sent me one that dosnt match up at all and has like a flywheel built into it odd.. and i also dont have a tps in my truck being its an older 90 or maybe its missing the tps and thats been my trouble all along im not 100% sure this stuff is highly confusing to me any help or notes is highly appertained and if more info is needed dont hastate to ask for it
Is a torque converter going to change how much horsepower and torque your transmission can handle without rebuilding the entire transmission? I’ve been curious about it for a while now, because I have a first gen with a 727 and I wasn’t sure if putting in a torque converter would help my trans or if I’d have to get the whole thing rebuilt for the power I want to make.
The answer to this question is slightly complicated. A torque converter does exactly that: converts power from the engine to torque through the transmission. Torque converter used to be measured by their level of efficiency. The stock converters on these were said to be 60% efficient (40% being lost to inefficiency or heat). So a more efficient torque convertor will have less loss to heat and will convert engine output to the wheels more efficiently.
@@decentgarage hey thanks man, really appreciate the work you put into these videos, on my first gen build started at 16 years old 2 years ago, and as I go through my build I look forward to being able to go through your many videos to watch how to do things. Your videos have helped me so much already. I’m sure other people as well
I know this was a long one, but I didn't want to miss any details. So happy with how this came out!
Thank you for doing this video, now I am going to order my converter for my D350. Your trans is a A518 correct
@@chrispitcock2003 Correct.
Great job! The step by step dialogue, film quality and general way you lay things out is bar none. Really priceless for guys wrestling with a task like this for the first time. Keep it up!
Thanks for the kinds words Nate!
I’ll have to let my buddy know about this upgrade
I'll be doing a comparison video with the stock convertor as well
Nice work my friend!!!! You say you don't know what you're doing, but I've done quite a few and it looks like you know what you're doing to me!!!!
Thanks guys! I stumble through and figure it out. I just enjoy learning how to do stuff like this.
Awesome job Mr Tim. Looking forward to these performance upgrades.
They'll be coming before you know it 😉
Awesome, I'm glad the upgrade gets your approval. I went with a Goerend triple disc converter for my built 47rh. I'm a long way off from putting power to the ground, but I hope it's as noticeable of a difference as you describe.
It's quite noticeable. A 47rh will be a whole different level compared to this haha
Suncoast makes arguably some of the nicest torque converter’s money can buy greg abarella likes them a lot and I think they’re very good quality there’s other good people out there too but anyway this is six in a row jim in Kennerdell PA good job guy good job
Yep it's really nice for sure!
So much for that bottle jack haha. Awesome video Tim! If you want it done right it takes time. Especially if you’ve never done it.
Yep, I thought that was funny too. Goodbye bottle jack!
Found you from fb group wonderful video glad to see someone doing stuff to these trucks in more detail.
Thanks for coming to the channel.
Remember whenever you’re turning the engine over for anything whether you’re trying to find top dead center on number one so you can adjust your valves take the torque converter bolts out anything always turn it in the same rotation that the engine runs so that way you’re pulling oil up out of the oil pan into the oil pump otherwise you’ll be pumping the oil out of the pump not good not good anyway that’s something I think it’s a good way to go this is six in a row jim Oh by the way a guy named Jerry Ruth taught me that in Seattle Washington an old-time top fuel dragster guy he was extremely good at what he did so anyway remember always turn the engine in rotation that runs that we are not pumping oil out of the oil pump the oil pumpfrom Kennerdell Pennsylvania
Yep good point. Turning the barring tool counterclockwise actually turns the adaptor plate clockwise which i believe is the same rotation as the engine does. Great point
I converted from Getrag to NV4500 in a 93 D350. The bad thing about the NV4500 is the high cost of the specific oil required.
I hear ya. But you can't go wrong with a manual.
love it
Thanks man!
Recommend using locktite on converter bolts.
I would love to see you put an nv5600 6spd in your crew cab. I do not know of a good video on a swap like that for a 1st gen, and I would be very curious to see how hard it is to do. I have heard there is more fabrication in a six speed swap than in a five speed swap. Another great video!
I'm gathering parts right now. It won't be an nv5600 though...
A lot of work, but I'm sure it was worth it! It's all good wrenching fun anyways. So is the plan to take this tranny and put it in prospector bob then put a NV5600/G56 in the OG crew cab?
🤔 Something like that
Im just waiting for the conversion to a manual.
Coming pretty soon 🙂
Yeah me too 😎
It's coming! I'm on the search for a 1st gen clutch/brake pedal assembly
Hey Tim, Digging up an old one here, but I'm installing the 46RH Suncoast Converter on my A727 Loadflite w/o overdrive and seems like it's engaged with the pump lugs. I'm still seeing appx 1/2"~ protrusion, where the converter isn't perfectly flush with the housing. I can't tell by looking at yours if the converter was perfectly flush or slightly out. I may need to fiddle with it a bit more. Suncoast said to have pump gear 12 and 6, then install vertically.
I don't recall if mine was quite flush. I believe it sticks out just a tad. Put the flexplat on and measure from the flex plate to the edge of the adapter plate and that should be how much it sticks out
Alrighty! Thanks Tim, helped me so much throughout this rebuild. I’m trying to go off of both suncoast and the 727 fsm. Wasn’t sure how accurate the 727 fsm would be on page 57:
Measure Torque Converter for full engagement:
Make sure torque converter hub slots are also vertical and fully engage pump inner gear lugs.
Test for full engagement by placing a straightedge on face of the case (Fig. 52). The surface of converter front cover lug should be at least 1/2 inch to rear of straightedge when torque converter is pushed all the way into transmission.
How do know the sequencer disassemble... amazing knowledge and experience!
Believe it or not this is only my second time pulling a trans but i did it recently so it's fresh on my mind how to do it
What transmission is this? 46RH/518? I can't seem to find a SFI flex plate for them. That's what I have. With 450hp to the wheels a stock unit will fail.
Yes this is an a518. The flex plate is from Moldoon's.
@@decentgarage thank youI will check into Moldoon's. They have a Decent Garage discount code?
Does the guy that you mentioned about doing the transmission oil cooler lines have an Instagram? I don't have a Facebook 😭😭
Been needing these lines lol
Thanks In advance & bad ass work appreciate you 🤙
Why not just upgrade to a full built transmission. Do it once and over with it?
im confused. i own a 1990 d250 cummins 2wd and my transmission looks similar to yours minus the transfer case and all. but apon further research it notes that i have the tourqeflite 727 3 speed. but yours a 4 speed correct? my confusing mostly is what the heck transmission do i have it has CAV 1 on the side, stock torque converter looks the same as the one you pulled out of your truck. and mostly from what i can only tell from the video same connections. im trying to purchase a tranny rebuild kit along with a torque converter but they sent me one that dosnt match up at all and has like a flywheel built into it odd.. and i also dont have a tps in my truck being its an older 90 or maybe its missing the tps and thats been my trouble all along im not 100% sure this stuff is highly confusing to me any help or notes is highly appertained and if more info is needed dont hastate to ask for it
A518 and torqueflite a727 relatively the same? do i have a Frankenstein transmission idk lol
I don't have Facebook, is there another way to get ahold of the guy who made the transmission lines?
What would a triple disc torque converter do for the truck compared to the stock if you don't mind me asking
Did you notice a increase in mpgs?
Slight if any
What made you gou with stock stall versus a low stall?
Mainly that was the advise of Suncoast. I would love to feel the difference between stock and low stall though.
Got anything done to the valvebody?
Nope, stock valve body on this truck
@@decentgarage might want to put a transgo shift kit in it. To help the new converter
Is a torque converter going to change how much horsepower and torque your transmission can handle without rebuilding the entire transmission? I’ve been curious about it for a while now, because I have a first gen with a 727 and I wasn’t sure if putting in a torque converter would help my trans or if I’d have to get the whole thing rebuilt for the power I want to make.
The answer to this question is slightly complicated. A torque converter does exactly that: converts power from the engine to torque through the transmission. Torque converter used to be measured by their level of efficiency. The stock converters on these were said to be 60% efficient (40% being lost to inefficiency or heat). So a more efficient torque convertor will have less loss to heat and will convert engine output to the wheels more efficiently.
@@decentgarage so it really just will decrease the load and heat put on a transmission when you put in a better more efficient torque converter?
@@billytraughber8427 with my limited knowledge that is my understanding
@@decentgarage hey thanks man, really appreciate the work you put into these videos, on my first gen build started at 16 years old 2 years ago, and as I go through my build I look forward to being able to go through your many videos to watch how to do things. Your videos have helped me so much already. I’m sure other people as well
@@billytraughber8427 thanks man! I don't know everything but i feel like i know enough to share what i know
Do you have to change the flex plate when using this converter?
You don't have to. You can still use the stock plate.
Can you please share what part number its that flex plate...??? Thanks Gilbert
@@sernagallardo Look in the description of the video. I've got a link to it there.
G56 swap........
Oh it's coming 🙂