Piastri is an intelligent and very focused human being. And he has the right people around him to give him proper advice. I believe Piastri is the next big name in the sport, he is going to let the driving do the talking and just make wise decisions.
Between this guy and the awful upper management at Alpine, he's dodged several. Helps that his manager Mark Webber was also seeing the signs that something was up.
@@FabledGentleman Piastri has the same raw speed that Verstappen and Vettel had early in their F1 careers without being accidental-prone. I have yet to see Piastri cause an accident in an F1 race, dispute having outright aggression in overtaking. His tyre management challenges will be addressed by the end of the year. In addition, Piastri is happy to be a team player. Zak Brown would be more than happy with his $20 million decision.
In hindsight it's hilarious some people blamed him for not being loyal to the team that brought him through their academy. No loyalty needed when the the team is inwardly and outwardly a dumpster fire.
I find the comparisons to Kmag that some people love to point out hilarious. Kmag is the polar opposite of Ocon. Kmag will make dumb and risky decisions exclusively to other teams, has never put hulkenberg as risk, and will happily sit behind hulkenberg creating a train if it means hulkenberg and haas score a point. Every team would rather deal with kmag's shenanigans than Ocon's.
@@SanchezS1998 At least never an intentional attack on hulk. In that monaco crash, kmag only focused on perez, and hulk's positioning was just unfortunate. Had hulk been in perez's place, kmag would've never made that lunge and would've stayed back.
But every team will take a fast driver like ocon who may be selfish can drive car faster. Alpine trying to suit the car to Gasly's driving style hasn't really helped the fact Ocon has so far destroyed Galsy
Honestly, fair play to Webber and Zak Brown in orchestrating Mclaren's swoop of Piastri.. otherwise we wouldn't be seeing Piastri's true pace at Mclaren and he would be stuck in that hell-hole ..
Piastri is so lucky to have a fellow aussie to look after him. a well connected and respected one too. glad he didn't get to sign to that dumpster fire of a team
I'm still convinced Webber and Alonso had discussions to time Alonso's announcement that he was leaving with Alpines option on Piastri running out so that they could both escape
Has to be up there with the best driver moves in history tbh. He'd be stuck with Ocon at the back of the grid instead of fighting for podiums in the MCL38.
There were always signs things weren't right at Alpine. I think Riccardo leaving the team was the first red flag. A pity he never got to grips with the McLaren and everything that happened after but the move at least was strategically sound. There are things that are not right within that team and it's not just the drivers that show this.
Seems like Gasly cares about beating their rivals, and Ocon has only ever cared about beating his teammates. As long as Ocon is beating Gasly he doesn’t care how slow they are, while Gasly seems outraged he can’t race further up the field. Ocon has never showed any maturity racing his teammates.
I agree. Gasley has always had good relationships with his team mates. I used to hate Pierre but I like him now and ocon has not matured or progressed with teammates at all he has been doing these things for years. I do think a lot of drivers would go for that gap at Monaco but ocon is not going to improve
Exactly! Finally someone has some common sense. It is true, people deny Ocon being a pain by saying he’s faster than Gasly- he’s faster, not a better driver. I’ve already spouted a lot about it across this comment section, but yeah! He’s too much of a pain for both F1 and Alpine
And side-point: ocon's social media apology wasn't really an apology either. It was one of those where all these reasons for an apology are given, but none of them address what the issue was.
There's that popular saying: idiots will bring you down to their level and defeat you with their superior stupidity. Same thing goes for Ocon in alpine
This exactly. I can't name a teammate he hasn't had an issue with. Not to mention all the other drivers not in his team that also have problems with him.
@@sephiros9883i’m really feeling that. I was a huge Renault fan because of the Alonso years and I felt like they were a respectable team with history until they became Alpine
If I was running an F1 team, I certainly wouldn’t choose as teammates two guys who have hated each other in a very personal way since they were 10 years old.
Ocon is not an asset for any team. The facts are that he is fast but nothing like Max, Alonso, Hamilton and rest of the top tier, he is seen as unlikable personality, bad teammate and therefore as someone with very limited fan base. The latter means, his marketing value is negligible.
Ocon beat Alonso, he beat Perez and he beat Gasly. He is undoubtedly an asset especially because he can drive car's with lose rear end something Fernando and Galsy always struggled with and had the development changed to understeer
I don't think I've even heard someone support ocon 😂 maybe back when he was out for a year and was going to Renault ppl said some nice stuff about him but not really since 😂
@@MuhammadNiz007 I mean he's guaranteed to cost a team 5-10 mil in crash damage and take out both cars like 3 times a year so you have to weigh the pros and cons I wonder why alpine is wanting to bench him leading the team in points and backing him for years is probably because it's not worth it anymore 😂
Your dear Max crashtrappen has collided with Ricciardo multiple times, Your dear Hamilton has collided with Jenson Button and Nico Rosberg multiple times, Top tier Vettel has done it multiple times with Webber and don't get me started on Alonso being a bad teammate. Ocon is an asset to any F1 team, it's just your hatred and blindly following a trend has made you hate him.
Ocon just couldn't cope with the fact that Gasly got in front of him, he's like a little child that got his candy taken away. He's so immature and unprofessional...
Monoco GP is essentially Alpine's home race, the big boss from Renault are probably there. Crashing in front of your paymaster is bad enough, but crashing with your teammate is a spit in their face. Famin is right to be furious at Ocon, Since this season is a writeoff for Alpine, benching Ocon with Doohan isn't going to change the team result much and they get to evaluate Doohan for next year.
Well that’s what f1 is about. IMO he is an og f1 driver not a modern day nice guy driver. I’m not saying his actions are always correct not at all but I respect it
@@maximem5356bro ur there to score as many points as possible and beat ur teammate that way, not like ocon does driving like hed prefer a 19-20 instead of a 1-2 if it means hed be ahead of his teammate
@@jeffbarnett3702 After what he had to deal with between Rosberg and Hamilton, I can't really blame him for NOT having Ocon there. Guy seems like he wants to throw hands with ANYONE he's paired up with.
Yeah Ocon may have the talent to be in f1 but not the mentality. With all the talent currently not on the grid this probably will be Ocon's last season unless he can prove to somebody that he's grown up a bit with a few seasons as a test driver.
100%. Thank you. Also, remember when he was in the running for the Mercedes seat in 2019/for the 2020 season? And for various reasons, they kept Bottas.
To be honest, a driver pairing that doesn't like each other can still work if they are professional enough. But Ocon never was professional, he didn't work well with Checo and he didn't work well with Fernando. And, given his arrogance, I don't think he'll ever work well with anybody
The only reason it slightly works is Gasly is the likeable one on that line up and wants to better the team. Can only go so far if the other end of the garage is a toxic, head up his own arse prick that destroys any harmony because he wants to be top of the team.
He just needs to be in a one driver team. They exist, and then he's responsible for the whole team's fortunes. I think that suits his philosophy better than "my job is to try to win, but I need to be less win-focused around this one guy who I'm measured against more than the others anyway", which seems to be how he views same-team drivers. Given that, he's going to be toxic either in a Monaco way, or in a 'not really helping the weaker teammate' way in a multi-car outfit.
Bruno Famin showing clear anger at that move was probably a boiling over of things even from last year. He wasn't team principal then but Monaco 2024 showed that nothing changed between this year and last between Ocon and Gasly. I doubt he will actually bench Ocon but it should be a stern warning that nothing like this should happen again this year.
Well I wouldn't be surprised Famin benches him because Famin fired Otmar in spa weekend to make himself the team principal and get the lime light. He is the same guy who is responsible for alpines engine and the same guy who told the team to praise his engine work although it's the worse on the grid by a good margin. He is the same guy who was responsible for contract's of Oscar. The same guy who forced otmat and Laurent to delay Fernando's deal . I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he gets benched for Canada but I also wouldn't be surprised to see a law suit as there is no way in hell a manager like Toto Wolff wouldn't have mentioned everything in details and a billionaire like him can practically ruin Bruno's life
@@aj897no, you don't know what he's talking about. He's saying that if Toto really wanted Ocon, then Ocon would have gotten the seat over George. And that didn't happen. Reading comprehension is hard, huh?
When you have the same problem with 3 different teammates, it’s pretty obvious who’s at the root of it. Plus a Gasly and Doohan lineup is way more interesting and likable anyway.
Why not just sack him now and give Doohan a 15 race audition? Does anyone really think at this point that Ocon is going to be in an Alpine next season? So since you all said no, then why run the risk of him doing this again and costing the team millions of dollars in destroyed cars? Second question: why would Haas or Williams with their limited resources want to bring in a driver that doesn't cooperate within the team structure? Neither of those teams can afford a selfish (insecure) driver ruining development and cars.
There are exactly 4 drivers I don't want to see on the grid - Ocon (he needs his own team where hs is the ONLY driver) - Stroll (daddys little boy causing more damage than Magnussen to Haas) - Zhou (no hard feelings, just maybe not enough??) - and Logan (just not enough)
@@jeffreyhutchins6527 Unless mechanics in France get paid significantly more than they do in the States, Ocon's silver spoon was made from tin. His dad owned a garage and they had to sell their home and garage to keep Ocon racing...that's a LONG way off from the Schumacher/Stroll/Mazepin's of the F1 Silver Spoon club
@@MrDufDaddy That's still millions which is more than what most people will see in their lives. He may be no billionaire but it still costs more than 5 million euros to get there.
Nobody expected this to work..I don't expect ocon to be in F1 much longer. Ocons strategy is sound ..if you beat your teammate you can't get fired... But he will try and beat them by any means necessary he's proven that from the beginning.
agreed. No one (RB, Merc) is going to put him in as a #2 because he will never submit to another driver and why would teams like Haas or Williams risk the damage he creates? Neither has the resources to deal with in fighting or wrecking a teammate. He's also shown no capability to help improve any of the cars he's been in.
@@freyalove3831 That I hope, but I don't see it. He has gotten away with his attitude for so long, so he will probably continue and get no reprecussions. But I hope ur right.
@@Grexen-bo6zp if we, the viewers, are fed up how do you think his team mates feel and how do you think his team bosses feel. He's on thin ice right now. I think if it happens even once more he's toast. Honestly I think he's already toast but he'll just be allowed to finish his season
The problem is Ocon's attitude, his huge ego prevents him to have any accountability for his mistakes, even if this cost points for the team. He always blames any incidents as external factors and never his, without any accountability, he will never learn or get any better, so I think what we are witnessing right now is a driver that already at his maximum potential. He will never be a champion as he won't get any better.
His ego? 😂 I don't think he has a whole lot to have an ego over lol dude is a waste of a seat I say kick him out after every f1 seat is full and get doohan in and let ocon out of f1 completely
It's intriguing that the most broken driver lineups always contain Ocon. Remember the Ocon-Perez days? Just get rid of this overly aggressive and mediocre driver once and for all.
He’s not mediocre lol, he’s a race winner lol, and you all say Alonso won him the race, yet he had a 4 time would champion in Sebastian Vettel, behind him all race, he doesn’t get enough credit for that
@@zlm4869 Vettel had a mildly competitive car, and was struggling to keep up in the AMR. Ocon isn’t too mediocre, but a huge prick. Selfish, immature, and just an asshole on the track. Alonso won Hungary for him, Hamilton was miles quicker than Ocon and would’ve overtaken him if it wasn’t for Magic. I have to handle it to Ocon though, his speed during some races in 2021 was not bad.
@sidharthtirkey44 I get that but you’re not understanding what I am saying he was holding a 4 time world champion behind him, making 0 mistakes in 70+ laps, with the pressure on him at all times
It's Ocon who is broken and can't be saved. No matter what teammate you give him, he will crash into them again and again. He's been in F1 for a while now and has had this issue every year with every teammate and just doesn't learn from his mistakes (but how could he? He barely ever admits it's his mistake). The only reason he is still on the grid after he was booted from it in '19 is because he's French and a French team was looking for a decent driver. Who else would take a broken team player?
I can't imagine Oscar with how good he's been with McLaren, being forced to try that tractor of an Alpine car wasting away his true natural born talent fighting to maybe get a point instead of fighting for podiums.
Ocon has had a huge chip on his shoulder ever since Max was selected ahead of him to drive in F1 even tho he beat Max in F3. Like alonso pointed out, ocon fights harder with his teammates than he does with other drivers. He only cares about beating his teammate to make himself look better, he doesn't care about the team. He has a huge EGO. We get that in racing, incidents happen. What matters is the accountability following those incidents, and ocon has never shown any. Alonso, Perez, Gasly, all three are great drivers who didn't have teammate issues until they raced with ocon. And if that happened with 3 drivers, then the problem is ocon.
Sums him up perfectly. While I don't hate him as much as everyone does (the hate for Ocon is too much imo) if his mentality was better he could be a good number 2 for top teams
Yes, but he's not a great one to get away with it. Senna/Prost was a spicy pairing, but BOTH Alain and Ayrton were greats, so each got away with it and won championships. Ocon is just a very good midfielder that is an absolute cretin when it comes to teamwork.
This is going to be the case for any driver competing directly with another driver at a high level in the same car when they’ve competed in karts 2:05 We only notice it bc this is the rare time top talent overlaps like this as both are young. Unless you can cite specific information about their “off track” issues, nothing to report there for now then. We saw it at merc with Nico and Lewis too. It’s not a problem for the likes of say George and Lando as they wouldn’t likely be paired but you’re out to lunch if you think it would be copacetic if they were on the same team. It would not.
He is and the pathetic little boy still calls himself Merc junior driver despite having ZERO association with Merc beyond Papa Wolff. Ocon is a little coward who doesnt understand what being in a team means
Ocon has a serious immaturity problem. Watch Hungary 2022 when he was so focused on blocking Alonso. This was the year after Alonso‘s defense helped him win a race. When Ocon’s driving gifted Ricciardo a double overtake on the Alpines, it really encapsulates why I despise him. Alonso immediately left for a slower team at the time, I would’ve done the same.
Daniel Riccardo has mentioned in the interviews, it was not a walk in the park to have Ocon as teammate( Put it mildly). Also remember ocon was hired by Alpine(he didn't have a seat).And Riccardo was ahead of him.
I really like Esteban's story and would root for him. But he's just not doing himself any favors with his clashes with teammates. Even without Kimi Antonelli in the picture. Toto would not put Ocon with George and potentially have his cars crashing into each other again.
Honestly any story is meaningless when you behave like Ocon does. His story would have been admirable to get to this point if he wasn't so insufferable and selfish. All drivers need to be selfish to some degree, but Ocon takes it to a toxic level. He will never get a top drive with his mentality and lack of maturity.
Ocon will have been told, before the race, do not (unless we tell you do so) attempt to overtake Gasly, this is Monaco and the risk is far too high. Then on lap 1, what does he do? That is why they are furious.
F1 is a team game, Ocon is not a team player, the guy needs to not be part of F1, there are just too many quality drivers that should be given an F1 opportunity.
You can see by the way Ocon looks, that he was a type of guy in school that would always ask for help, but that he would also cover his test with his hand, so that you can not copy it
There is something about Ocon picking on his own team-mates that should be examined by a psychiatrist. I mean, it is a recurring issue, so medical attention is advisable.
The hate towards ocon makes me sad. He is one of the only driver who wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth and in an ocean of priviledge. He got where he is through sheet talent, perseverance and hard work, with no financial backing. His competitiveness gets over the top often, but he is a much more likable guy than many in the grid.
@@budgie1323 @michaelcobbin Not sure that would happen, though it would awesome. I doubt Yuki will be kicked out of RB, not with the way he is driving. Though he may need to tapper his attitude
@@smythie27 Alpine is definitely giving Jack Doohan as much time as possible in the F1 car. How many FP1 sessions will Ocon be giving up to Doohan for the rest of the season? Possibly every non-sprint GP for the remainder of the year.
I don't think you can really claim that during H2/23 Gasly was better, like you do at ca 5 min. mark. Your own graphics shows that when both managed to finish, Ocon had usually better position. Ability to finish at all is another kettle of fish entirely, tho.
Ocon's magnetism towards his teammates has never served his teams well. He is a very good driver on his good days, but his good days are often overshadowed by such incidents that could simply be avoided.
The way I see it, Ocon is stuck in a nasty feedback loop, the world is against me so I am against it: something happens to prove it to him and he gets worse from it, ie: Max getting a seat before him, lance getting his seat, getting overlooked for Bottas and so on. If he can't get out of this tunnel vision mind set, he's not long for f1.
He had one of the best junior career and, while always driving for mid-tier teams, has a win and multiple podiums. Like and dislike whoever you want but be objective about it.
Sure bruhh😂😂😂. Sargent, zhou, even bottas and Perez nowadays get a seat now and ocon dosent?. Too much hate it’s just a crash and only happens like once a year with him
Ocon is incredibly talented but has a massive chip on his shoulder. Like mate we get you didn’t have it easy coming up but sometimes he appears almost entitled like feels he deserves it more than others because of his background which is ridiculous. He is unfortunately not a very nice person seemingly who thinks only about himself.
Famin should go also. Unprofessional and unnecessary to vent to media instead of dealing with this behind closed doors, as any employee should be treated.
So when Pierre cuts off Ocon in Australia the consensus is that Ocon should had backed off, but when Ocon cuts off Pierre, the consensus is that Ocon was in the wrong? Make it make sense guys. You’re only as good as your last race, and Pierre is eating dirt right now. We all did the same thing to Ricardo when he came back with high hopes only to be getting his ass handed to him my Tsunoda. We wouldn’t say that Tsunoda is the problem just because Ricardo has a history of success, so I’m Not sure why this is being spun to make Ocon look like the driver that needs to go.
Well if you’re only as good as your last race. Ocon DNFed after a dumb move on a teammate that didn’t need to happen on Lap 1 and Gasly scored points after a potentially getting car damage
polar opposite these 2 drivers. Gasly seems likeable maybe not as top tier like Max Charles Carlos etc but seems like he is a good teammate to be around. Ocon is just average driver who thinks he is the best. has a bad attitude problem. remember when he messed up Max's win in Brazil a few years ago and almost always tried to mess up Nando's race?? Ocon easily forgot the only reason he got his one and only win was because of how Alonso held up Lewis for so many laps. Ocon needs to go to Formula E
Oscar Piastri dodged the bullet big time.
Piastri is an intelligent and very focused human being. And he has the right people around him to give him proper advice. I believe Piastri is the next big name in the sport, he is going to let the driving do the talking and just make wise decisions.
Between this guy and the awful upper management at Alpine, he's dodged several. Helps that his manager Mark Webber was also seeing the signs that something was up.
he didn't dodge a bullet, he dodged an entire fucking canon
@@FabledGentleman Piastri has the same raw speed that Verstappen and Vettel had early in their F1 careers without being accidental-prone. I have yet to see Piastri cause an accident in an F1 race, dispute having outright aggression in overtaking. His tyre management challenges will be addressed by the end of the year. In addition, Piastri is happy to be a team player. Zak Brown would be more than happy with his $20 million decision.
In hindsight it's hilarious some people blamed him for not being loyal to the team that brought him through their academy. No loyalty needed when the the team is inwardly and outwardly a dumpster fire.
I find the comparisons to Kmag that some people love to point out hilarious. Kmag is the polar opposite of Ocon. Kmag will make dumb and risky decisions exclusively to other teams, has never put hulkenberg as risk, and will happily sit behind hulkenberg creating a train if it means hulkenberg and haas score a point. Every team would rather deal with kmag's shenanigans than Ocon's.
True. KMag’s antics have only ever hurt Hulk once, and whether or not it was his or Perez’s fault is up to who you ask.
Until he wiped them both out trying to stay ahead of Hulk behind Perez.
They are both like sodium and chlorine tho so maybe joining them together isn't such a bad idea?
@@SanchezS1998 At least never an intentional attack on hulk. In that monaco crash, kmag only focused on perez, and hulk's positioning was just unfortunate. Had hulk been in perez's place, kmag would've never made that lunge and would've stayed back.
But every team will take a fast driver like ocon who may be selfish can drive car faster. Alpine trying to suit the car to Gasly's driving style hasn't really helped the fact Ocon has so far destroyed Galsy
ah yes the years old nemesis of french people... other french people
The sexual tension has been too much for the two
@@KA-om9oz Always one weirdo making up stuff, you secretly hating who you want to be with doesn’t mean everyone does that.
As a French, can confirm. We hate all each other, it's in our blood.
@@aj897 it’s a joke Karen. Get triggered much? Hahaha
@@aj897 Lighten up, its a joke. Its not that deep.
Honestly, fair play to Webber and Zak Brown in orchestrating Mclaren's swoop of Piastri.. otherwise we wouldn't be seeing Piastri's true pace at Mclaren and he would be stuck in that hell-hole ..
Piastri is so lucky to have a fellow aussie to look after him. a well connected and respected one too. glad he didn't get to sign to that dumpster fire of a team
I'm still convinced Webber and Alonso had discussions to time Alonso's announcement that he was leaving with Alpines option on Piastri running out so that they could both escape
The race has probably been sitting on this video since gasly to alpine was confirmed
😂😂😂 history always repeats itself
Piastri made the right move. Driving for Renault/alpine as well as along with ocon is not the move..
Seems like French teams have fights for weird reasons, I heard the English and French speaking employees stay at different hotels……
Has to be up there with the best driver moves in history tbh. He'd be stuck with Ocon at the back of the grid instead of fighting for podiums in the MCL38.
There were always signs things weren't right at Alpine. I think Riccardo leaving the team was the first red flag. A pity he never got to grips with the McLaren and everything that happened after but the move at least was strategically sound. There are things that are not right within that team and it's not just the drivers that show this.
And likely set up Doohan for an F1 seat.
He’d probably be too far ahead of Ocon to be bothered by him.
Ocon vs Gasly, Ocon vs Alonso, Ocon vs Perez -------- All these 3 battles proved who is to blame here. Ocon needs to go.
It was Perez, when they were tm8s lol, what you on about
Yes, there's an obvious trend.
@@zlm4869 And it's obviously Alonso and Gasly in the other two cases, Ocon is clearly the cleanest and most innocent driver in all three cases.
@@jkliao6486 nice sarcasm it suits you
I’d rather have him being fast and having a few clashes rather than someone else like Jack Doohan that would be further off the pace
Seems like Gasly cares about beating their rivals, and Ocon has only ever cared about beating his teammates.
As long as Ocon is beating Gasly he doesn’t care how slow they are, while Gasly seems outraged he can’t race further up the field. Ocon has never showed any maturity racing his teammates.
I agree. Gasley has always had good relationships with his team mates. I used to hate Pierre but I like him now and ocon has not matured or progressed with teammates at all he has been doing these things for years. I do think a lot of drivers would go for that gap at Monaco but ocon is not going to improve
Exactly! Finally someone has some common sense. It is true, people deny Ocon being a pain by saying he’s faster than Gasly- he’s faster, not a better driver. I’ve already spouted a lot about it across this comment section, but yeah! He’s too much of a pain for both F1 and Alpine
Ocon has become a more toxic version of Grosjean..Crash happy..Never behaved like that before.
Why tf would you hate à driver??? Were you à teenager or younger perhaps?? That's too immature@@AlanpittsS2b
And side-point: ocon's social media apology wasn't really an apology either. It was one of those where all these reasons for an apology are given, but none of them address what the issue was.
This is not a Gasly-Ocon problem. It’s just an Ocon problem. Would happen and did happen to any other teammate.
There's that popular saying: idiots will bring you down to their level and defeat you with their superior stupidity. Same thing goes for Ocon in alpine
@@UrgrannytrannyHow did Ocon defeat anybody? His stupidity got him out of the team.
This exactly. I can't name a teammate he hasn't had an issue with. Not to mention all the other drivers not in his team that also have problems with him.
Backmarkers, manufacturer team, civil war.
Disgrace of a works team
They're French it's typical. The French also colonized. They are inherently problematic
That's the French for you. Arrogance
Complete disgrace. I was a Renault fan but this is just an embarrassment.
The ultimate downfall of Team Enstone.
@@sephiros9883i’m really feeling that. I was a huge Renault fan because of the Alonso years and I felt like they were a respectable team with history until they became Alpine
If I was running an F1 team, I certainly wouldn’t choose as teammates two guys who have hated each other in a very personal way since they were 10 years old.
If I was running a F1 team I just would never choose Ocon at all.
Ocon drives likes he's got that Stroll insurance policy
Christ. Any excuse to insult stroll eh?
@@LaChartre Where's the insult? Daddy's team = insurance he won't be dropped even if he drives/behaves the way he does
@@markbogdan2 what bad behavior does stroll display?
@@LaChartre Blaming other drivers for his numerous mistakes ?
@@LaChartre I see you just figured out what jokes are!
Ocon is not an asset for any team. The facts are that he is fast but nothing like Max, Alonso, Hamilton and rest of the top tier, he is seen as unlikable personality, bad teammate and therefore as someone with very limited fan base. The latter means, his marketing value is negligible.
and he's adix
Ocon beat Alonso, he beat Perez and he beat Gasly. He is undoubtedly an asset especially because he can drive car's with lose rear end something Fernando and Galsy always struggled with and had the development changed to understeer
I don't think I've even heard someone support ocon 😂 maybe back when he was out for a year and was going to Renault ppl said some nice stuff about him but not really since 😂
@@MuhammadNiz007 I mean he's guaranteed to cost a team 5-10 mil in crash damage and take out both cars like 3 times a year so you have to weigh the pros and cons I wonder why alpine is wanting to bench him leading the team in points and backing him for years is probably because it's not worth it anymore 😂
Your dear Max crashtrappen has collided with Ricciardo multiple times, Your dear Hamilton has collided with Jenson Button and Nico Rosberg multiple times, Top tier Vettel has done it multiple times with Webber and don't get me started on Alonso being a bad teammate. Ocon is an asset to any F1 team, it's just your hatred and blindly following a trend has made you hate him.
Ocon just couldn't cope with the fact that Gasly got in front of him, he's like a little child that got his candy taken away. He's so immature and unprofessional...
Not like, he IS a kid.
He saw a gap and went for it. He’s a racing driver who knows he’s not got a seat next year, I dunno why anyone’s surprised
And french
@@thesonofthesouth This aged well
Ocon made Alonso look cooperative. That says it all.
Alonso takes care of daddy’s little baby, you know
Well, Ocon is too down the list. Alonso IS cooperative.
Alonso can work with the right line up and the right team. Ocon can't. He's just an a hole and that's all there is to it.
@@SpartanArmy117Say that to: McLaren, Renault, Ferrari, McLaren again and Alpine... He's not a saint you know?
Are you really trying to defend Ocon? Mate, please ...
Monoco GP is essentially Alpine's home race, the big boss from Renault are probably there. Crashing in front of your paymaster is bad enough, but crashing with your teammate is a spit in their face. Famin is right to be furious at Ocon,
Since this season is a writeoff for Alpine, benching Ocon with Doohan isn't going to change the team result much and they get to evaluate Doohan for next year.
Piastri dodged a train wreck lol
Ocon is a clown who always takes racing against his teammates to the extreme.
Well that’s what f1 is about. IMO he is an og f1 driver not a modern day nice guy driver. I’m not saying his actions are always correct not at all but I respect it
@@maximem5356bro ur there to score as many points as possible and beat ur teammate that way, not like ocon does driving like hed prefer a 19-20 instead of a 1-2 if it means hed be ahead of his teammate
You would think him not being remotely considered for the Merc seat despite being a Merc driver should been a wake up call
Toto is also his manager!!
says it all!
@@jeffbarnett3702 After what he had to deal with between Rosberg and Hamilton, I can't really blame him for NOT having Ocon there. Guy seems like he wants to throw hands with ANYONE he's paired up with.
Yeah Ocon may have the talent to be in f1 but not the mentality. With all the talent currently not on the grid this probably will be Ocon's last season unless he can prove to somebody that he's grown up a bit with a few seasons as a test driver.
100%. Thank you. Also, remember when he was in the running for the Mercedes seat in 2019/for the 2020 season? And for various reasons, they kept Bottas.
Ocon is very toxic
I’d be taking Gasly and binning Ocon. The guy is one torpedo away from having his garage moved from next to Gasly to Faslane.
Ocon: the guy your driving instructor warned you about
To be honest, a driver pairing that doesn't like each other can still work if they are professional enough. But Ocon never was professional, he didn't work well with Checo and he didn't work well with Fernando. And, given his arrogance, I don't think he'll ever work well with anybody
The only reason it slightly works is Gasly is the likeable one on that line up and wants to better the team. Can only go so far if the other end of the garage is a toxic, head up his own arse prick that destroys any harmony because he wants to be top of the team.
I don't why an team principal would get ocon he literally toxic
Cus he's fast.
He’s slightly above average, not worth the hassle
@@Collouk1 an average racing driver is way worse than for example mazepin.
Bring him to Mercedes please - the look on Toto's face as he takes out Russell would be priceless!
Ocon is selfish
Ocon and KMAG dream team. Make it happen!
LOL! 😎🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How many races before there is a fistfight between those two? I like it!
😂😂😂
Sunday Sunday Sunday! Most expensive destruction derby you have ever seen.
Mazepin and Grosjean as backups...
Hopefully Ocon won't get a new seat in F1
No matter where Ocon goes he will have issues with his team mate. It makes you wonder why any other team would actually want him.
He just needs to be in a one driver team. They exist, and then he's responsible for the whole team's fortunes. I think that suits his philosophy better than "my job is to try to win, but I need to be less win-focused around this one guy who I'm measured against more than the others anyway", which seems to be how he views same-team drivers.
Given that, he's going to be toxic either in a Monaco way, or in a 'not really helping the weaker teammate' way in a multi-car outfit.
So glad Piastri isn't stuck in some petty Ocon bullshit early in his f1 career. Might have completely changed his trajectory.
Bruno Famin showing clear anger at that move was probably a boiling over of things even from last year. He wasn't team principal then but Monaco 2024 showed that nothing changed between this year and last between Ocon and Gasly. I doubt he will actually bench Ocon but it should be a stern warning that nothing like this should happen again this year.
Well I wouldn't be surprised Famin benches him because Famin fired Otmar in spa weekend to make himself the team principal and get the lime light. He is the same guy who is responsible for alpines engine and the same guy who told the team to praise his engine work although it's the worse on the grid by a good margin.
He is the same guy who was responsible for contract's of Oscar.
The same guy who forced otmat and Laurent to delay Fernando's deal .
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he gets benched for Canada but I also wouldn't be surprised to see a law suit as there is no way in hell a manager like Toto Wolff wouldn't have mentioned everything in details and a billionaire like him can practically ruin Bruno's life
@@MuhammadNiz007Toto doesn't care at all about this junk of a "driver" otherwise he would have got the Mercedes seat instead of georgie boi.
Doohan is going to get an opportunity earlier than expected imo.
@@antoniohagopian213 George has been signed for months, you don’t know what you’re talking about lol.
@@aj897no, you don't know what he's talking about. He's saying that if Toto really wanted Ocon, then Ocon would have gotten the seat over George. And that didn't happen.
Reading comprehension is hard, huh?
When you have the same problem with 3 different teammates, it’s pretty obvious who’s at the root of it. Plus a Gasly and Doohan lineup is way more interesting and likable anyway.
Why not just sack him now and give Doohan a 15 race audition? Does anyone really think at this point that Ocon is going to be in an Alpine next season? So since you all said no, then why run the risk of him doing this again and costing the team millions of dollars in destroyed cars?
Second question: why would Haas or Williams with their limited resources want to bring in a driver that doesn't cooperate within the team structure? Neither of those teams can afford a selfish (insecure) driver ruining development and cars.
Ocon is the worst teammate in F1 he has such a broken philosophy.
Ocon vs Russell will be interesting.....
The moaning and whining would be intolerable
Will never happen lol I don't think toto will ever be that desperate 😂
There are exactly 4 drivers I don't want to see on the grid
- Ocon (he needs his own team where hs is the ONLY driver)
- Stroll (daddys little boy causing more damage than Magnussen to Haas)
- Zhou (no hard feelings, just maybe not enough??)
- and Logan (just not enough)
It's a shame too because of Ocon's story. That alone would make him so much more popular, but he just doesnt seem likeable
Ironically that story is where his mentality comes from...
@@thomasvrielink299 oh yeah poor Ocon had it so rough. His silver spoon was slightly less shiny than the other drivers on the grid.
Yeah story of a Algerian narcissistic kid who wants it all for himself.
@@jeffreyhutchins6527 Unless mechanics in France get paid significantly more than they do in the States, Ocon's silver spoon was made from tin. His dad owned a garage and they had to sell their home and garage to keep Ocon racing...that's a LONG way off from the Schumacher/Stroll/Mazepin's of the F1 Silver Spoon club
@@MrDufDaddy That's still millions which is more than what most people will see in their lives. He may be no billionaire but it still costs more than 5 million euros to get there.
Nobody expected this to work..I don't expect ocon to be in F1 much longer. Ocons strategy is sound ..if you beat your teammate you can't get fired... But he will try and beat them by any means necessary he's proven that from the beginning.
agreed. No one (RB, Merc) is going to put him in as a #2 because he will never submit to another driver and why would teams like Haas or Williams risk the damage he creates? Neither has the resources to deal with in fighting or wrecking a teammate. He's also shown no capability to help improve any of the cars he's been in.
Sadly he will still be in F1 for more years to come.
@@Grexen-bo6zp if Ocon doesn't change his attitude he won't be for long in F1.
@@freyalove3831 That I hope, but I don't see it. He has gotten away with his attitude for so long, so he will probably continue and get no reprecussions. But I hope ur right.
@@Grexen-bo6zp if we, the viewers, are fed up how do you think his team mates feel and how do you think his team bosses feel. He's on thin ice right now. I think if it happens even once more he's toast. Honestly I think he's already toast but he'll just be allowed to finish his season
A French civil war? I’m shocked
The problem is Ocon's attitude, his huge ego prevents him to have any accountability for his mistakes, even if this cost points for the team. He always blames any incidents as external factors and never his, without any accountability, he will never learn or get any better, so I think what we are witnessing right now is a driver that already at his maximum potential. He will never be a champion as he won't get any better.
His ego? 😂 I don't think he has a whole lot to have an ego over lol dude is a waste of a seat I say kick him out after every f1 seat is full and get doohan in and let ocon out of f1 completely
It's intriguing that the most broken driver lineups always contain Ocon. Remember the Ocon-Perez days? Just get rid of this overly aggressive and mediocre driver once and for all.
He’s not mediocre lol, he’s a race winner lol, and you all say Alonso won him the race, yet he had a 4 time would champion in Sebastian Vettel, behind him all race, he doesn’t get enough credit for that
@@zlm4869 "you all say Alonso won him the race"
YES, he did.
@@zlm4869
Vettel had a mildly competitive car, and was struggling to keep up in the AMR. Ocon isn’t too mediocre, but a huge prick. Selfish, immature, and just an asshole on the track. Alonso won Hungary for him, Hamilton was miles quicker than Ocon and would’ve overtaken him if it wasn’t for Magic. I have to handle it to Ocon though, his speed during some races in 2021 was not bad.
@@PhazerSC and what about Ocon holding Vettel behind for 70+ laps, no one gives the credit for that at all, but no typical honestly
@sidharthtirkey44 I get that but you’re not understanding what I am saying he was holding a 4 time world champion behind him, making 0 mistakes in 70+ laps, with the pressure on him at all times
tbh, all i care about is that Piastri managed to sign with mclaren instead of their team. he dodged a pretty fat bullet
It's Ocon who is broken and can't be saved. No matter what teammate you give him, he will crash into them again and again. He's been in F1 for a while now and has had this issue every year with every teammate and just doesn't learn from his mistakes (but how could he? He barely ever admits it's his mistake). The only reason he is still on the grid after he was booted from it in '19 is because he's French and a French team was looking for a decent driver. Who else would take a broken team player?
Its crazy how hard he drives against his teammates but barely even tries against anyone.
Everyone saw this coming the moment they said they’d be paired together.
Changing teams? That's a 10 seconds penalty for Ocon.
They’ve had 3 incidents in 2 years. All of this they can’t work together is a bit of a stretch.
I can't imagine Oscar with how good he's been with McLaren, being forced to try that tractor of an Alpine car wasting away his true natural born talent fighting to maybe get a point instead of fighting for podiums.
Ocon has had a huge chip on his shoulder ever since Max was selected ahead of him to drive in F1 even tho he beat Max in F3.
Like alonso pointed out, ocon fights harder with his teammates than he does with other drivers. He only cares about beating his teammate to make himself look better, he doesn't care about the team. He has a huge EGO.
We get that in racing, incidents happen. What matters is the accountability following those incidents, and ocon has never shown any. Alonso, Perez, Gasly, all three are great drivers who didn't have teammate issues until they raced with ocon. And if that happened with 3 drivers, then the problem is ocon.
“Alpine was unaware of this at the time of signing” well then they were the only one we all knew when it was announced where this was going.
Ocon is a good driver with a shit mentality
Sums him up perfectly. While I don't hate him as much as everyone does (the hate for Ocon is too much imo) if his mentality was better he could be a good number 2 for top teams
Sums it up nicely
Well said
He's trying to ride the "oh, look at me, I didn't grow up with a lot of money, I'm just a smiley normal dude" vibe far too far.
Yes, but he's not a great one to get away with it. Senna/Prost was a spicy pairing, but BOTH Alain and Ayrton were greats, so each got away with it and won championships. Ocon is just a very good midfielder that is an absolute cretin when it comes to teamwork.
This is going to be the case for any driver competing directly with another driver at a high level in the same car when they’ve competed in karts 2:05 We only notice it bc this is the rare time top talent overlaps like this as both are young. Unless you can cite specific information about their “off track” issues, nothing to report there for now then.
We saw it at merc with Nico and Lewis too. It’s not a problem for the likes of say George and Lando as they wouldn’t likely be paired but you’re out to lunch if you think it would be copacetic if they were on the same team. It would not.
Is Toto still Ocon's manager? Because this is important
He is and the pathetic little boy still calls himself Merc junior driver despite having ZERO association with Merc beyond Papa Wolff. Ocon is a little coward who doesnt understand what being in a team means
Ocon to williams confirmed 😅
Yes, he's still linked to Mercedes yes, though I have no idea why that is still the case after 5 years at Renault/Alpine.
@@titancheatplease no 😂
@@soundscape26He dont have links with Mercedes.
He have link with Toto Wolff. Very important difference
Would LOVE to see Alpine reunite Gasly and Tsunouda next year
Estie Bestie needs a Restie
🤣🤣
Ocon has a serious immaturity problem. Watch Hungary 2022 when he was so focused on blocking Alonso. This was the year after Alonso‘s defense helped him win a race. When Ocon’s driving gifted Ricciardo a double overtake on the Alpines, it really encapsulates why I despise him. Alonso immediately left for a slower team at the time, I would’ve done the same.
Ye there's only 1 word needed to explain why the lineup can't be saved:
"Ocon"
sacre bleu
Ocon=Au con
Maybe it’s the BWT logo that affects Ocon psychology?
Ocon fights with literally every teammate he has.
All of Ocon's teammate pairings have been toxic except for maybe Danny Ric, and he is the common denominator
Daniel Riccardo has mentioned in the interviews, it was not a walk in the park to have Ocon as teammate( Put it mildly). Also remember ocon was hired by Alpine(he didn't have a seat).And Riccardo was ahead of him.
Blame Alpine management. They knew Ocon reputation and they knew his "close friendship with Gasly" so, what did they expect to happen.
I really like Esteban's story and would root for him. But he's just not doing himself any favors with his clashes with teammates. Even without Kimi Antonelli in the picture. Toto would not put Ocon with George and potentially have his cars crashing into each other again.
Honestly any story is meaningless when you behave like Ocon does. His story would have been admirable to get to this point if he wasn't so insufferable and selfish. All drivers need to be selfish to some degree, but Ocon takes it to a toxic level. He will never get a top drive with his mentality and lack of maturity.
Rumor has it, Ocon even gets in to fights with his mirror
Opposite of Chuck Norris. 🤣
I chuckled hard.😂😂😂
Ocon will have been told, before the race, do not (unless we tell you do so) attempt to overtake Gasly, this is Monaco and the risk is far too high. Then on lap 1, what does he do? That is why they are furious.
F1 is a team game, Ocon is not a team player, the guy needs to not be part of F1, there are just too many quality drivers that should be given an F1 opportunity.
You can see by the way Ocon looks, that he was a type of guy in school that would always ask for help, but that he would also cover his test with his hand, so that you can not copy it
K-Mag has never done everything wrong
From the minute they signed Gasly this was inevitable, regardless of what team they drive for having two French drivers is asking for chaos !
This aged well
There is something about Ocon picking on his own team-mates that should be examined by a psychiatrist. I mean, it is a recurring issue, so medical attention is advisable.
It’s called narcissism
Icon and Stroll should be on the same team, I would enjoy watching that very much
no one cares what you enjoy
Saying there is a problem with the team pairing is a little misleading. There is a problem, with Ocon...
Yeah, what did Renault think was going to happen with these two…
The hate towards ocon makes me sad. He is one of the only driver who wasn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth and in an ocean of priviledge. He got where he is through sheet talent, perseverance and hard work, with no financial backing.
His competitiveness gets over the top often, but he is a much more likable guy than many in the grid.
Is it coincidence that Ocon had problems with all his teammates?
5:15 - exactly what danny ric needs to do if it's not too late
As an Australian, it would be awesome to see 3 Aussies starting on the grid, even if it is just for one race
I’m also an Australian, how about 3 Aussies and 1 New Zealander on the 2025 F1 grid?
@@michaelcobbinas another Aussie, this is the stuff my dreams are made of. 3 Australians and our kiwi brother Liam Lawson flying around the track!
@@budgie1323 @michaelcobbin Not sure that would happen, though it would awesome. I doubt Yuki will be kicked out of RB, not with the way he is driving. Though he may need to tapper his attitude
Alpine must have seen my post🤣🤣
@@smythie27 Alpine is definitely giving Jack Doohan as much time as possible in the F1 car. How many FP1 sessions will Ocon be giving up to Doohan for the rest of the season? Possibly every non-sprint GP for the remainder of the year.
Well it's official, after this season Ocon will no longer drive for Alpine
Ocon = Au con
Translate the second part from french and you'll know all you need.
Ocon isn't even a bad driver, but there needs to be an intervention about his attitude towards his teammates.
I don't think you can really claim that during H2/23 Gasly was better, like you do at ca 5 min. mark. Your own graphics shows that when both managed to finish, Ocon had usually better position. Ability to finish at all is another kettle of fish entirely, tho.
The problem with Ocon is he goes after his teammates more than his rivals.
Ocon's magnetism towards his teammates has never served his teams well. He is a very good driver on his good days, but his good days are often overshadowed by such incidents that could simply be avoided.
Piastri and Alonso having a laugh while watching this with a glass of wine 😂😂😂
Who's here after they dropped Ocon?
The way I see it, Ocon is stuck in a nasty feedback loop, the world is against me so I am against it: something happens to prove it to him and he gets worse from it, ie: Max getting a seat before him, lance getting his seat, getting overlooked for Bottas and so on. If he can't get out of this tunnel vision mind set, he's not long for f1.
Ocon needs to go. He has no business in F1 and never has.
Ocon is fast though...
He had one of the best junior career and, while always driving for mid-tier teams, has a win and multiple podiums. Like and dislike whoever you want but be objective about it.
@@1ena585 So what. He was gifted that win, lets talk about objective.
Sure bruhh😂😂😂. Sargent, zhou, even bottas and Perez nowadays get a seat now and ocon dosent?. Too much hate it’s just a crash and only happens like once a year with him
He can drive
Ocon is the problem. His only F1 race win is due to his (then) teammate Alonso in Hungary and yet Ocon regularly trashes Alonso publicly.
P45 for both along with Lance, Kmag, Zhou, Bottas, Logan, and DR. The grid needs some talent
Ocon is incredibly talented but has a massive chip on his shoulder. Like mate we get you didn’t have it easy coming up but sometimes he appears almost entitled like feels he deserves it more than others because of his background which is ridiculous. He is unfortunately not a very nice person seemingly who thinks only about himself.
ocon can not be pair with anyone. so he better go race somewhere else outside F1. He would just cost Hass more damage that Hass cannot afford.
The real problem with Esteban Ocon is, that he himself thinks he is a great driver, something he is clearly not.
He has talent though.
@@freyalove3831 A talent to piss people off, yes indeed.
Famin should go also. Unprofessional and unnecessary to vent to media instead of dealing with this behind closed doors, as any employee should be treated.
Kmag be the loyal one and ocon be the silly one who can't obey shit. At least when kmag crashes, he does it for the team, unlike ocon
So when Pierre cuts off Ocon in Australia the consensus is that Ocon should had backed off, but when Ocon cuts off Pierre, the consensus is that Ocon was in the wrong? Make it make sense guys.
You’re only as good as your last race, and Pierre is eating dirt right now. We all did the same thing to Ricardo when he came back with high hopes only to be getting his ass handed to him my Tsunoda. We wouldn’t say that Tsunoda is the problem just because Ricardo has a history of success, so I’m Not sure why this is being spun to make Ocon look like the driver that needs to go.
Well if you’re only as good as your last race. Ocon DNFed after a dumb move on a teammate that didn’t need to happen on Lap 1 and Gasly scored points after a potentially getting car damage
I can't stand the way Ocon acted against Alonso, his benefactor
ocon has serial killer vibes
polar opposite these 2 drivers. Gasly seems likeable maybe not as top tier like Max Charles Carlos etc but seems like he is a good teammate to be around. Ocon is just average driver who thinks he is the best. has a bad attitude problem. remember when he messed up Max's win in Brazil a few years ago and almost always tried to mess up Nando's race?? Ocon easily forgot the only reason he got his one and only win was because of how Alonso held up Lewis for so many laps. Ocon needs to go to Formula E
Ocon and russell will make interesting teammates... They will always endup blaming each other 😂😂
Hope you are having a good day Edd. You deserve to make it to the official F1 media team! Huge fan of your commentary.