Why It's So Hard to Like Esteban Ocon
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- Why It's So Hard to Like Esteban Ocon
Esteban Ocon is a Formula 1 driver that i honestly have mixed feelings about, he was once a driver who i saw as really nice and cool to be around. But then when we see his on track personality, its like seeing a totally different person. He has a bit of a delusional mindset and a way of competing which isn;'t healthy for himself and other drivers. He is talented and skilled though, theres no denying that. But i do hope that Ocon can better himself after the multiple incidents hes had with other drivers like Max Verstappen and especially his former teammate Fernando Alonso. This video is a bit of a funny and serious take on the situation so take it with a grain of salt. If you have a different perspective on the situation, feel free to leave a comment below.
Also this video was inspired by a video i saw regarding the UFC fighter Isreal Adesanya and "Why Everyone Hates Israel Adesanya" i felt like F1 should have its own version with the current grid, that being Esteban Ocon. I wouldve done Nikita Mazepin but well hes not in the grid anymore. Bye bye Maze-spin.
Bro has the record for most penalties ever given in an F1 race 💀
Also fixed the audio I think
"Alpine F1 driver Esteban Ocon had some terrible luck during the first race of the 2023 season. Before the lights went out, the Frenchman lined up his car ahead of his grid spot which led to the driver incurring one time penalty. He further went on to receive another time penalty for not serving his first penalty right. It was later found out that Ocon passed the speed limit while entering the pits." ....thats why he received the penalities. So whats the point in mentioning ? Is it cuz u just want to hate on ocon cuz u got an alonso stick up your tail? Hmmmm
@@shayzadg i aint reading allat 💀
@RicksF1Addictionn typical toxic f1 youtuber who just wants to hate on any and everything...I'm surprised u didn't also make a mazepin hate vid as well but anyways....your bias content will be the downfall of your channel but gl promoting it
@@shayzadg It is a fact that Ocon had the most time penalty in a Race
@user-fp4wt9kn8e yes I never denied that but it's for entering the pits to serve a penalty and entering too fast. Like if he got 20 secs for that vs someone who got 15 secs for ramming people off the track..which is worse? Like ocon pen isn't worth mentioning imo altho it's true because it isn't for a serious offense if u get me
Whats most surprising to me about Brazil, that I can understand in the heat of the moment complaining, because of adrenalin. But then after the session, he went and said he didn’t even lose the car, although he clearly did
I still think that because of what Alonso keep saying about him and the team all season, he did not wanted to take the blame, because he has taken in part in other crash/ problem this season, like in Australia. Still it was 50/50, with Fernando moving back early on the trajectory.
@@neildefoix6729Are you referring to 2023 when the two Alpine cars collided or was this before? In 2023 I know Gasly and Ocon came together in Australia and neither finished.
Ocon even had the dream PR scenario where the story line was: he “lost” his seat to a pay driver whose dad bought the team and through being a hard nose driver he clawed his way into holding a seat. But then he decided to flush that turd down the toilet and instead pit maneuver max and every teammate in sight
I think he even had such a good reputation at the time that the opinion on the Max incident felt more in favour of him than Max. At least from the things that I saw it was at least split equally.
And that was before the current state where Max had way more neutral fans.
Not Checo on the other side of the wall 😭😭😭
As a mexican I laughed my ass off.
Something to remember about Ocon is that he didnt grow up rich like most drivers and the Stroll episode means he knows how fast a seat can go away. Yes he's usually a prick, but I respect him because he's committed and tough as nails.
This idea where Ocon didn't grow up rich, but most other drivers did is just wrong. Please name more than 5 drivers on the current grid who grew up rich
@@LeXx0rVerstappen, Sainz, Russell, Norris, Piastri, Stroll, Zhou, Tsunoda, Sargeant. And I didn’t include Hulkenberg, Bottas & Magnussen bc I honestly don’t know much about them. Also Checo and Charles weren’t rich growing up but they were funded by millionaires (a billionaire in Checo’s case) very early on, so they had connections to wealth either way.
@@micagarcia2642
Let's first define rich. I would say 30M$+, as this is the definition of UHNWI.
I remember that the sponsor of Fabio Leimer (GP2 Champion of 2023) said in an interview he put 18M CHF (roughly 20M $ today) into his careers. Obviously Fabio had multiple seasons in F2, so you could get to F1 cheaper - and he didn't even make it to F1 - but still, you'd have to dish out at the very least 10M$ out of pocket. And this shouldn't impact your quality of live. So by that standard, let's examine the drivers you mentioned.
Verstappen: Well of but his dad was nowhere near where he could pay 10M$ out of pocket without affecting his quality of live. That would probably be most of his net worth if not more. But he's certainly well connected -> Not rich
Sainz: Well of but his dad was nowhere near where he could pay 10M$ out of pocket without affecting his quality of live. That would probably be most of his net worth if not more. But he's certainly well connected -> Not rich
Russell: Not rich, middle class
Norris: Rich, his dad could easily afford it
Piastri: His parents are certainly not poor but his dads company employs roughly 100ppl. Maybe enough to carry his sons career, maybe not. According to media, they definitely drop a few millions themselves.
Stroll: Rich, his dad could easily afford it
Zhou: Unknown, possibly also rich
Tsunoda: Not rich
Sargeant: His parents are not rich but his uncle is supposedly a potential billionaire
You can do both
Respect his rise and still don't like him
@@micagarcia2642
Much like Max, Kevin had a lot of support from his dad (Jan) from an early age, so he falls into that too.
I find it so funny that he's hated because I personally thought the first few seasons of Drive to Survive tried so hard (and succeeded) to make him look good, and still he ruins it
I had the exact same experience, netflix cant hide this man's character 😭
@@RicksF1Addiction 😂 couldn’t have said it better
French bashing, always.
@@Jeremy-is6dy some of my favourite drivers ever are french, I like Gasly, love Alesi, Prost, Loeb, Loubet, absolutely love Kevin estre and Michele Mouton; Ocon really is just that unlikeable
He only ruined it with fans of Alonso and Max, who tend to hate the same people now that those two are buddies.
IMO it kinda seems like for a guy that had to earn his place all the way to F1, but just isn't quite WDC contender material, Esteban is driving to keep his spot in F1. Massive respect to the guy for just being a legit talent, but I think that might be why it seems like he has an ego. He just is the kind of guy that always has to advocate for himself, because merit is what is keeping his seat, not how nice he is. He seems pretty nice off track, obviously a quiet dude, doesn't really need off track drama.
has the ego of CR7 being a Rashford
@@CozyRodentin terms of equivalents, ocon is much more consistent than rashford so thats not fair.
This point always seemed a little weird to me.
Firstly, Lewis had an even more humble family background, nevertheless, he is not behaving like a d*ck.
Secondly, everybody drives to keep their spot in F1 (except 1 individual on the grid) :D
And thirdly, at this point, he made north of $10 million, so he (or his family) clearly doesn't have to work a day in his life anymore. However, his attitude is still the same.
Let's be honest - Esteban has a massive chip on his shoulder. He is talented, but nothing extraordinary (relative to F1 greats). So he uses his upbringing to justify his anger management issues and lack of performance.
@Maxzung 1. Whether or not Lewis is dick is highly subjective, nevertheless you're right, but I never discounted, or even said anything about him.
2. This is true, but I don't think it's controversial to say that Esteban's seat is far more contentious than most others on the grid
3. This is kind of a non sequitur. Why does making a lot of money mean you aren't or shouldn't be a dick at your job? It's not like it would be acceptable (at least the way you frame it) if he didn't make a lot of money.
I think you're blowing his ego way out of proportion. I really don't see him acting out of line at all. Is he a little self-centered? Yes, that isn't really all that surprising, or really that unlikeable compared to everyone else on the grid, or motorsport in general
True but a principal doesn’t want to deal with a driver that will knock his teammate out every race either.
Ocon is extremely jealous of Verstappen. Maybe because he was champion in f3, but Verstappen third. That hate towards Max was perfectly shown in 2018 Brazil.
An incident that was, 6 seasons ago now. Both have gotten over it and are completely fine with each other. And he's not jealous, he respects Verstappen a lot. Just look at the interview he gave when Max won his third championship at Qatar
@@bilalrazaq8522 what else was he supposed to do there? Mimic a Twitter crybaby and tell everyone ItS jUsT tHe CaR?
What? Bruh you sound sick 🤣
@@bilalrazaq8522How do you know for sure? Are you friends with any of them? You just don’t get over stuff like this, and all the ass kissing is just for the media. I assure you that they both hate each other’s guts just the same as before
Bro 💀, this is an incident between a car who know how important this is to take a lap back and another who want to win, nothing was personal. Ocon don't hate Max, he hate mostly the man who didn't support him into F1. Verstappen has nothing to do with that.
5:19 aint no way you done put perez there bruh hell nah💀💀
Someone had to do it bro 😂
Man rich enough to get a Staying Visa tho :D
i think he’s just french
So is Gasly, but people love him. It ain’t that.
Haha, teuton boche spotted
There's a bit of truth 😀 but hopefully we are not all are like that... think Gasly, Panis, Alesi, Prost, Todt, Vasseur
Ocon's teammate battles against Perez were far worse than against Alonso
Yeah but that was mostly Perez fault just like with Button to be fair
Perez made some of the worst move ever when he realised he was as quick as him as a rookie
people comparing his temperament to Max’s are hilarious. the reason Ocon nearly got punched and Leclerc gets a debrief is bc they respect each other, are direct, and actually apologise to each other when warranted.
Ocon and Stroll are similar. Both idiots towards the team mate.
Only thing I like about Occon is that he made it to F1 despite his family being middle class, so he had it much harder than pretty much any driver on the grid as yes not everyone is super rich, but at least their parents had enough money to support their career, but thats the only thing really.
Lewis
@@thirdy4threetv yeah Lewis also didn't came from rich background but Occon had it even bit harder
Ocon also took blame for the crash Gasly caused, just to keep Gasly from being suspended.
But no one looks at that; all that matters is whether some driver hates him…
@@thirdy4threetvLewis comes from a nice middle class setting. Ocon parents definitely had less money.
Make excuses.
My personal theory was his head being shaken with the Force India situation. I can imagine his mindset to be "always #1 in the team" since then. Unfortunately, he didn't had car nor skills to match that mindset.
I remember in Drive to Survive how Netflix made Checo look like the bad guy when they were both in Force India.
Tbh I call him estie testie because he tests everyone’s patience. I get that his circumstances are different, but for me what I really dislike about him is his lack of accountability, and the fact that, even when he does make a crucial mistake or causes a collision, he will never take accountability. I have yet to see him ever take accountability for making mistakes and to meet the good drivers are the ones I can take accountability Acknowledge that they made a mistake and learn from it rather than trying to deflect the blame on everyone else.
KEEP EM COMING! Looking forward to your content throughout the season!
Thankyouu 🗣🔥🔥🔥
Ocon is one of the VERY FEW drivers that didn’t come from money. Even Hamilton, whose family wasn’t super rich like most others, was still relatively wealthy. Ocon was middle class and worked his way up purely on merit. It should be such a PR slam dunk, but it ends up working against him because he feels like he has more to prove as someone who didn’t come from the same social standing as the rest.
Isn't it wholesome that Lance and Estaban get along so well? Coming from such different cultures and Lance's dad probably hitting billionaire status before Lance was out of diapers. But that could also be a social contract, like HAM and Shakira. Beards to get the media off their backs for hanging out only staff and family.
He also gets in well with magnussen, bottas and seb. He’s an old fashioned guy not a diva.
As someone who has been watching for a while, he’s always been like this against his teammates- The way he fought Perez, but also slandered him AFTER races like the infamous tweet “everything went well until Perez tried to kill me” was crazy disrespectful in my eyes
Oh and don’t forget about the Brazil 2018 incident with Max of course…
Checo catching strays like that is WILD 💀
Ocons penalties in bahrain weren’t fully his fault (well 2 of them were) but one if them was because the team didn’t sever the penalty properly and touched the car before the 5 seconds had gone through, hence now a 10 second on top. The fia kinda stopped doing that after aston proved them wrong in saudi.
tbf, he calleed him a magnet, so penalties comes to him, doesn;t matter if its his own doing or someone else.
Sometimes it has to do with physiognomy as well, he just looks like a french super villian lmao
Esteban Ocon is the type of guy to let others through except his teammate
I’ve seen this joke and I guess it’s accurate:
Pierre, with a lush bag: Listen, I know we don't get along, but I got you a bath bomb for your birthday, so whenever you're feeling stressed and you need a bath, just fill a bathtub with water and throw it in. I guarantee all your worries will be over.
Esteban, opening the bag: This is a toaster.
I feel bad for both of them because the most positive thing I can say about Alpine nowadays is that at least it’s not Haas. It sucks because even when they had good race days this season there was always someone in mid field that was better than them and they ended up forgotten or they were mentioned for all the wrong reasons (as you mentioned in the video).
If we compare Stroll’s garage stunt from this year and Ocon’s “lapses of judgment” (for lack of better words) throughout the years we can see that everyone can earn redemption. But in Ocon’s case I think he gave up.
Aged like milk ( the haas part )
It did… lmfao. Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall during their next briefing with sponsors.
bro youre up there with rocketpoweredmohawk in terms of f1 journalism just so you know
Oh really? Hahaha ive seen that guys content before hes great. My main inspiration is videogamedunkey though ❤️🩹
While your styles are definetly very different, both of you are unbiased slagging off everyone whos deserving and I'm here for it.
Bruh, when you look up "5 second" on RUclips "penalty for Ocon" is one of the auto fill-ins 😂
Definitely true
Funniest sh*t was when he came on the radion and said "Someone tell hulkenberg im about to pass him" Then proceeded to be stuck behind him for 10laps...
That was a misinterpreted scenario, ocon explained he wasn't being cocky it was radio to screen glitch
great frequent vids! ur gna be famous 1 day
Its not just the charisma he is dangerous on track,a bit psycho. He closes other cars extremely agressive.
Alonso donated Ocons only win and then Ocon showed complete disrespect for Alonso
Ain't even on the shenanigans on Bahrein, that wasn't all his fault, the problem is in Austria where he got like 15 warnings and 40 seconds worth of penalties all cuz of track limits
It's true that his behavior towards teammates is sometimes pathetic and i hate the fact that he never recognize his mistakes, but he's definitely one of the most likable guy out of the car and the most underrated driver of the grid!
First of all, he was super solid in karting, not as good as Charles or Max, but stolid, despite coming from a poor background (he's the only driver of the grid that genuinely had a family that had barely enough money to live), then in the junior formulas, he was as good a the other of his generation and beat Max (although with a better team and with more experience) in European F3.
At Manor in 2016, he progressively closed the gap to Wherlein and had an amazing race in the rain in Brazil, where he fought for the points against much faster car (that performance give him the FI seat over Pascal), he also finished all the races and never made any mistake.
Then at FI, he was incredibly solid, almost finishing every time in the points and being incredibly close to Pérez in 2017 (scored 87 points against Sergio's 100), then out-paced him in qualifying in 2018 16-5 (and also showed great tire management, he was just a bit more unlucky than Pérez).
After a full year in the sideline, he had a somewhat mediocre season against Ricciardo but still scored good points consistently and was able on multiple occasions to challenge Stroll who had a much faster car.
Then, against Alonso, he was sometimes seriously impressive, although he was generally less brilliant and far less consistant, he was more often than not able to somewhat match Alonso's pace and did better against him than most of his teammates, let's not forget he's still the last driver at Enstone to have won a race.
Finally, last year, he scored only 4 points less than Gasly despite 3 times more DNF.
Btw, you also need to know that he is the driver who costed the least amount of money isn car crashes over the past 7 years among drivers who had at least 1 full season, so his propension to ruin his team are overly exxaggerated.
I'm a die-hard Alonso fan. Few years ago I kinda liked Ocon, and I was really happy to see him to take that victory by the help of Alonso.
The way he treated and talked sh*t about Alonso really pissed me off, and I also started to hate Ocon.
Ungrateful, totally mediocre egoist driver. He, and the way he is acting reminds me of Francois Delecour (I know he was a rally driver). Really unsympathic.
Ocon is not necessarily a bad guy or a bad driver. In my opinion he isn't any worse than Hülkenberg for instance. But I feel like sometimes his mouth is way bigger than his talent.
I feel he is jelaous. Mostly of Verstappen. But maybe of Alonso too. He should stop talking cr@p about Alonso.
Alonso's pair of gloves worth more than Ocon's whole career ever will.
So when Alonso completely talked sh*t about Ocon in Brazil, that's justified, but when Ocon does it, he has an ego? The only things Ocon has really said against Alonso was mentioning that he *also* had bad luck in 2022, and that he did majority of the sim and marketing work. Other than that, he's upheld he has respect for Alonso. Even in Grill The Grid, when he's asked who one of the best drivers was, he said Alonso.
And it's not like they hate each other. Monaco shows that they're fine with each other, and F1 posted something from Las Vegas which showed them greeting each other, so clearly they're fine
As for being jealous, that's just bullshit. No way to prove he is. And you act like Ocon is talking crap about Alonso every week, when he's not. Both drivers have other issues to deal with. I get you can be angry about Brazil 2023, or Hungary 2022, but those incidents happen to every driver. But because it happened to Alonso, Ocon must be villianised
After everything Alonso did for the guy he has every right to say what he wants about that idiot. Trying to say Ocon did nothing to Alonso didn’t watch the first few minutes of the video where he’ll risk everything to keep his teammate behind but let everyone else right past. Look at what he did to Gasly at the last race 2023 even against team orders the dick head just doesn’t understand
He's a bad guy. Its one thing to have a bad day here or there but when it happens often that means its their personality. You can't be a good person and have a bad rap sheet. Doesn't work that way. There is a saying about actions speaking louder than words.
Alonso's behaviour is normal to him, he come to a team say "look guys i'm the best" and don't achieve his goal, than trashtalk all the team, it's the same thing since 2006 (yes, even with Renault). He critize his teamates (look at Ferrari and how he killed Massa). Yet u say that Ocon is an "Ungrateful, totally mediocre egoist driver". Experience told us the other way.
Ocon do not hate Verstappen, he didn't take Ocon seat in F1 or anything, but yeah, hating the man who trashtalk you all season long and critizise the team is something normal.
@@neildefoix6729 Please tell me, when Alonso critizised his teammate? He killed Massa in Ferrari, because he was much quicker. Also I've never heard any Ocon's teammate praising him, he only praises himself. The most funny part came in DTS season 1, when he was complaing, that he has to go to circuit in a car, but his teammate Checo Perez went in helicopter. So yeah, Ocon is an egoist driver.
First ever video of yours that I have seen and I’m instantly a fan! ❤
I'll never support a guy that spins by himself and blames the guy that let him have his first race win
His speech in Monaco after the race and his radio to Haas saying "You better be ready" are the cringiest things I've ever heard in a while
On D2S Ocon said something that made me go: "That guy is alright."
He said something like "The time, the weather, holidays don't matter. We train. We race. We do what needs to be done"
Thank you... I've been waiting for this video and I didn't even know it.
I love you TJlovesFights type videos in a F1 perspective! Love the content man keep it up!
literally my favorite video of yours i'm always watching this
How you started this is EXACTLY how I felt about dude
I can only imagine how difficult it was for Esteban to avoid taking Max out in 2023 when Max passed him all year long…endlessly.
I feel like he just wants to keep his seat by being the better one in the team.
Ur videos are amazing keep it up!
I can admit that I'm a huge Esteban fan. He and Carlos are my favorite drivers rn in the grid
Why?
@@MrAobrady The guy has amazing racecraft and takes advantage when there's a gap, like Singapore 2023 when he overtook Checo and Fernando
4:00 oh shit he did💀
well, what can i say. magic alonso (literally)
He's disliked because when he's had incidents, whether with teammates or other drivers, it's always popular drivers. Perez's and Alonso's fanbases are very dedicated, so when Esteban would race them on track, he would be antagonised. Many people ignore that Perez was at fault for the majority of their incidents together.
Angering the Verstappen fanbase didn't help either. And the media turned people against him with the whole Gasly v Ocon story. As Gasly was the only one of the pair to talk about their past, and as he's more popular, people sided with him against Esteban.
A common idea that is used to hate Ocon is that none of the drivers like him, which isn't true. Him and Max have a good relationship, it seems like things have cooled off between Esteban and Checo, and his relationship with Alonso is good, despite what his fans think. And he's fine with Gasly as well. The hate against Ocon is just stupid, considering he's a heavily underrated driver and one of the nicest drivers in the paddock
Down to the ground and really well pointed out
All the fans that have interacted with him say he’s a really nice guy, even the media really like him, but Martin says he turns into a little devil when that racing helmet goes in. But he’s usually fair and never crashes out. He’s a firm but fair racer. For instance he holds the record for most races without a DNF as a rookie and the first DNF was due to grosjean
@@lexuslfa4739 i can personally say i was at a special Wednesday day and ocon took the most time to give fans what they wanted
@@randomrexy2135 exactly, most people speak this of him. The one I’ve heard that has an attitude is Carlos Sainz
I kinda liked the guy when he was racing for Force India together with Perez. And was clearly messing with him a lot. But at that point he was just a newcomer, fighting for his spot against a more experienced driver, a phase in his career when a driver could still get away with some shit. But once you've become an established driver, there gotta be at least some respect for both teammates and other competitors. And he shows absolutely none.
Wow and you should do a new video adding Ocon vs Pérez in Force India clashes. That was so odd too! xD
Also dont forget his rivalry with Perez while at Force India when he was younger.
I have always felt he simply just doesnt like Fernando Alonso, he seems to go out of his way to make Nandos life hell on track.
He’s a Lewis fan so it’s kind of obvious
@@lexuslfa4739 yes, I completely agree. It is very obvious Ocon prefers Hamilton than score points for the team(as long he fights his teammates).
Is being French not enough?
Have you got a similar video about Max Verstappen? I would love to watch!
One thing that really pissed me off about the SQ1 crash in Brazil without Alonso is how Ocon said he didn't have oversteer, even though you can clearly see in the video he *did* have oversteer
The fact that Stroll is hiss best friend says a lot about him.
His best friend is not stroll! He is best friends with mick
Stroll seems to be a chill dude tho. Makes sense.
That you judges Strolls character based on the bank account of his father says alot about you too, bro.
Stroll is a nice guy. Humble unlike the likes of Lando
@@lexuslfa4739
Lando isn't exactly unkind tho, he's just more... reserved and awkward socially, I'd say.
here before bro blows up in a few months
I think the point where F1 fans started not liking Ocon that much was him being a magnet to crashing out with Perez at Force India and ofc the taking out Verstappen at Brazil thing
Have you seen the race? Perez was driving like a murderer.
lmao, right. easy to blame ocon after the penalty for ocon lameass meme@@neildefoix6729
"Ocon may be the only teammate to outscore Alonso in terms of points."
Jenson Button would like a word..... 😂
Yeah Button only outscored in 2015 & again Alonso beaten him in 2016. But Ocon outscored Alonso in 2 years straight.
@@manasatatikonda they were teammates 2 years and button won 1 and Alonso the other yet you say he "only outscored in 2015 and alonso AGAIN beaten him in 2016"? So it's 1 a piece so how did he "again beaten him"? The statement was only teammate to outscore alonso, which Jenson did in 2015 lol
@@Veyron_fan yeahhhhh mate agreed.
Alonso had DNFs, even though close to points. Lol. Ocon is never going to win WDC, he will win some podium in 2nd or third position. O
He is french, thats why
I’m an Ocon fan. I’m just leaving this comment here to see what happens… 🇫🇷❤️
Yeah to make my F1 23 career mode somewhat realistic I took his seat lol
Thank youuuuuuuuuuu … so glad you said it. And well said. A Menace!!
0:26 ah man the delivery of that line sent me💀😂
Esteban's a natural heel, just a serf coming to play with the noble boys. He's rough around the edges and use petty minded tactics, he'll definitely try to steal Pierre's girl. Just the type of guy he is. I love it, he's a "The Joker".
I think i can kind of understand what he's doing. World is tough place to be kind and friendly. I recently watched 1st season of drive to survive where he lose place to lance stroll bcz Stroll's father bought the team. And he was picked bcz his partner Perez brought mexican sponsors so he's doing his best to not lose his seat in team even if by beating your teammates by defending against them. Ocon is a survivor
Love your channel man and great video :D
Glad you liked it :D
i got ptsd as a Checo fan
When fernando and ocon crashed in sau paulo i dont think fernando was at any fault at all considering ocon lost the car and alonso couldnt have done anything to prevent the crash
im glad i found this account before it beacome famous
I'm french and I totally disapprove Ocon's behaviour. As a frenchman he's expected to pull his white flag and run away from the track 😡
I’m fresh new to F1 and as a fan of another not-popular driver (George) I still find the hate ridiculous. Save for the multiple penalties, all of these things have been done by other, more popular drivers and it’s so funny to me how all the focus was placed on Alonso when Alonso seems to be known for getting away with a bunch of shady ass maneuvers that have put others in danger.
If there is any driver that deserves hate, it's Mojon.
Doesnt matter the background, some people are just unlikeble, still got the job, so fuck him, lets all cheers for charles now cuz we all now he needs our support
Alonso is the OG teammate killer
I’m just commenting for the engagement
I am sorry but if I was icon I would do the same. I am in F1 to win and beat my teammate, not here to drive around the back and make up numbers
I think he became worse because Sergio Perez treated him really terribly but Sergio kept his spot in force India while Esteban was kicked out.
This isn't quite fair. He didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth, hence he has everything to loose. It's like a bandwagon thing to hate the kid. He has talent and gets a lot of hate, which is sad to see.
We need a Ghost feature on f1
Ocon know what it is to lose an F1 seat, Perez was very hard against him at Force India (Belgium and Singapore GP), due to that, Perez was kept (he scored more points) so yes, Estaban defended hard against all of his teammate, knowing that it is important to lead the team by scoring more points. Also, he has an agressive style, so he is sometime more kind to do mistake. I think his style was really defined at Manor where he had a shitty car and has to do impossible things to keep the pace. Tha'ts also why he isn't a great overtaker, which is a thing we like very much in f1 (tbh, Ricciardo was the same before going the Red Bull in 2014). He is not perfect and isn't making a lot more mistake than other midfielder , but due to the fact that he was almost always alongside "cool" drivers (as consider by the fanbase such as Ricciardo (+he replace Hulk who was also popular) Alonso (I don't know why people like him as he is an absolute dick with the teams he had driven for) and Gasly ) any of the thing he does is criticable by anyone (of course Brazil 2018) and the toxics fans are numerous.
Also, see how netflix has treated Gasly win at Monza vs what they did for Esteban, for most of the new fan, his win is only due to Nando (OC he played a major role here but Ocon has to defend against a 4 time WC with an equal car).
Once again, the fanbase is unfair, like it was with many other drivers (like Villeneuve, Sutil or even Perez before), it is part of the sport, but it is too much this time.
Disagree that he isnt a great overtaker. He's had some of the greatest overtakes these past two years
@@ronan1686 He has some great move, but many time he hesitate when the moment come.
Generally i think its completely useless and ridiculous to speak about character when it comes to professional athletes, as that has nothing to do with the relevant topic at hand. Those are separate topics (like for videos like this).
As people i can stand neither Lewis nor Max (although I have a preference for directness and honestly), but ask me if i care. I do not. All thats important to me is how they drive a car. I do not watch a popularity contest.
@@LiftandCoa If you follow other sport, you should know that character is very important, in Football, people like Ramos, Pepe or Puyol are not reacting the same as they are confronted with the same situation. Same goes for all other sport, it is very important are athletes are also individuals
Ocon reminds me of a sim-racing driver. Constantly over-driving the car, and not accepting blame when he makes a mistake. He also always blames other people for accidents and attacks them on the radio before his car stops spinning. The sad part is that he has just enough talent to avoid being canned.
The fact that he has personal beef with so many drivers is becoming extremely concerning. We have already seen how his feud with Gasly caused a lot of issues for Alpine last year. Soon there won't be a team that will take him no matter how much talent he may have.
Ocon hasn't been the only teamate to beat Alonso in points. Button did to in 2015 with Mclaren-Honda (by 1 point)
😅😅😅😅 I love your very honest commentary 😅😅😅😅🎉🎉🎉🎉
ah man great video but thats a 10 second penalty for ocon
Some race in future:
Alonso:DNF
Checo:DNF
Max:DNF
Ocon got 5 minutes penalty.
He could be the most liked driver as he actually earnt his way in to a seat. No rich daddy or connections
I've always been a massive Ocon fan. Altough it's very tiring defending him after every race 🥲
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I love ocon, in my opinion he is aggressive as a a driver and if u like that then u like him if u don't u don't like him. Like all the hate he gets is from fan bases when he has had crashes with others tho lol
Video lasts for just over 6 minutes for most people, but will extend to in excess of 7 minutes length when Ocon watches it due to multiple 5 second penalties. 😅
Alonso can talk shit and be the way he is because his self-perception is based on reality; when he returned to F1 and wasn't fast, he knew and accepted that he wasn't fast. He was submissive and apologetic and honest. His confidence is related to how good he is. He acts like hot shit when he IS hot shit. So it's fine. It's honest snd self-aware. Alonso will stop acting like that as soon as his performance drops off.
Ocon thinks he's better than what he is. And he's unnecessarily dog-eat-dog. That's what makes him dislikeable.
Unfortunately, without Ocon, that team would have less points. And they need to finish well this year. I don't really like his personality but he's good. And now his team is struggling he's been nice and seems like they're going forwards.
I like the guys talent. He has gotten a lot better from when he started. I do agree that he needs to let the ego go.
2:04 exactly, exactly.
4 videos and almost at 2k subs already,you're gonna go far bro
Yeah he’s *always* given me a funny weird vibe. He lets his natural awkward goofiness be a part of his friendly good-guy persona. I don’t trust him, never have. He’s a worm but doesn’t show it in the spotlight because as long as he needs something, I think he’s gonna be low key manipulative.
That Max/Ocon confrontation, Ocon’s body language showed he wasn’t even defending the move he made, it was a laugh in Max’s face with snarky playing dumb like, “What?😃What did I do/What are you gonna do about it.” With his hands up and still walking towards Max saying something with a smile on his face when Max kept walking away pissed. But I bet Max pushed him more than once because of what was coming out of his mouth.
My theory was confirmed after hearing Max talk to Daniel about it. Might’ve been an On The Sofa with Max & Daniel from when they were teammates but I forget which exact vid it was.
Then there’s the Gasly/Ocon childhood stories, which Ocon was never open about it as Gasly was. You’d think if someone was spreading lies about your character, you’d at least want to share your side of the story and clear it up.
Around here is when I began noticing the way he drives against teammates, and was surprised that no one was talking about it and he was only receiving praises.
Then slowly people starting to catch on and I was like, Yes! So it IS a real thing and not just a delusional fabrication made by my distrust of the man boy.
And then like in ‘22 when everyone was speculating who would get the Alpine seat after Alonso/Piastri fiasco, Ocon tried to influence Mick to get the seat which he was open about.
It’s not because he thinks Mick is talented and deserves the seat, but Ocon wanted someone who he knew he could beat while at the same time increasing his own stock.
Can’t remember but must’ve been ‘22 when Ocon said his best mates on the grid were Lance Stroll & Mick Schumacher. I thought, okay how much of that is because no one really likes them so they just hang out with each other, and how much of that is being friends/close to those with money and the Schumacher name.
Kinda strange for a rags to riches guy (well, richer than before when his family would live and travel by caravan) to cling himself onto a the billionaire’s s son and also Michael Schumacher’s son.
I’m just waiting for the big scandal but that might not happen for years. I’m just glad people are catching on.
Just one thing tho:
Stroll doesnt seem to be really disliked by the grid when it comes to him as a person.
We fans dislike him for being a Nepo-Baby and im sure some one the grid think that as well, but as a dude he seems genuinely chill to hang with.
Same thoughts on Ocon.
people always hated ocon. why are you making yourself seem different? you're not special
I try to like the guy seeing how he didn't grow up with the money like others, but damn his attitude is so off-putting sometimes. I genuinely like most of the drivers but I just can't seem to want to cheer him on. I understand having ambition but I think esteban is just so volatile with his teammates
its sad for ocon because he has the talent and already the skill to pull some crazy moves and speed
I also find it a little odd that everyone sides with gasly with no reason other than hating on ocon,
people if you hate ocon for being egotistical (which yes has has alot of ego about racing and tbf but especially against alonso you kinda have too, drivers like Verstappen, Hamilton alonso a very difficult to deal with driving you kinda have to grow your ego trough the atmosphere or you will drown
Also one last thing, if ocon gets all the hate for being rough against competition than Following that logic gasly should have more than double the hate for being a massive dick to staff (one of the reasons why redbull dropped him don't know if he fixed that with himself)
Amazing video afther 3 vids you earned a Extra subscriber :)
Having an ego is fine but at least know your place, these guys understand where their teams stand and what’s best for the team, Ocon thinks he deserves the world and hasn’t done much to prove he deserves anything better than a seat in the haas. If he had the talent everyone hopes he does toto would have brought him up to Mercedes like he promised instead of George, toto is the only reason he’s on the grid
@@veljkotodorovic5071 Must as I don't always like George's ego, least he can back it up some what.
2:40 LMAO that caught me off guard
He just needs to win and then people will love him
Which he won't happen. He won't win a WDC
Ok I'll say it, I'm French, and I do like Ocon. I actually like him a bit more than Gasly or Leclerc, because he seems more genuine to me. He doesn't care about how he looks to the public, he does whatever is best for him, and he has a huge ego, as is often the case for the greatest of racing drivers. He didn't come from a rich family, and he's overall more relatable to me. Rant over.
Last year in Austria, he was showing off on radio becaude he did not have any penalties as the other drivers.
That day the FIA gave him 30s of penalties after race👍👍👍
He’s your Kyle and Denny all rolled into one.
Nah Ocon is a lot more tolerable than Hamlin.
@@BDeLuca4444 funny thing is he was never like what he is now during his short track late model days.