Never buy, sell or consign a watch to a guy who: 1. Wears a ball cap backwards. 2. Wears a hat indoors. 3. Has tattoos. Etc. Why does anyone have to write this?
1. any adult conducting business with a company called 'Watches 'R Us' is a mark. 2. any adult conducting business with a gentleman who models themselves as a prison convict is a mark. 3. any adult conducting business without due diligence is a mark.
Interesting, you'd do your research how long the person was into horology, and in Sydney, who would you trust? Well there's a guy who is a real watch maker who invested a crateload to build watches who has been dealing for yonks, so he's the kind of person you'd deal with. It takes a long time to build reputation, so do some real due diligence, don't be a sheep.
You are absolutely correct 100% Oisin…..And yes, you could tell by this guy‘s appearance…. He’s not a refined person….! Another scam artist…! Don’t ever sell your watches on consignment ever! Good reporting Oisin…5 ✨
Asking for cash for significant amounts is an immediate signal of a bad operation- at the very least they are involved in tax avoidance. It’s also known that expensive watches are used for money laundering and even trafficking. People criticise authorised dealers but they offer security and you don’t have to deal with criminal types out to scam whoever they can. This sort of thing only started happening when some people started regarding watches as investments, which they are not.
As an Aussie who has spent way too much money on watches, most of them from second hand dealers, what were these guys thinking? Did they do no homework before they rushed into this? There are highly reputable dealers in all the capital cities that have been around for a long time and earning very good reputations, I've dealt with a few of them with no drama. These guys were just suckers waiting to be ripped off.
Anyone that get tattoos in place they shouldn't be you know there fucked up people. I got 4 tats if I could go back in time I wouldn't have never got them they make people look trashy.
Those "refined types who know about art & wine" can be scammers too, they're just better at it; look at Aurel Bacs and Goldberger, for example. Pretty silly to assume that these people are any more honest, just because they wear a suit and know a fun fact or two about grape juice.
Well said. It's remarkable how this sector has evolved since the pandemic. One normally would associate fine Swiss time pieces traded by smart, professional, central Europeans in the manner of a private banker. After Covid, baseball caps, tattoos and vulgarity
Hey O'Malley, you may not like everything I have to say here but ever since Roman started filming the trade shows, it has left a semi bitter taste in my mouth; The way they handle these items that we cherish, it is with no emotions, sure they are some what used to dealing day in day out and therefore, they see it as a business. However. the treatment of watches in these shows has lost some value for me in a lot of these dealers. Another big issue for me is when these guys wear watches they have for sale, that is so unethical. So, yea you are right about the watch world full of cow boys. Online journalists have commented about the market being low, it is a correction in my view because prices went from 0-60 in few months with the help of guys who thought they were in the stock market with high frequency trading. I am so happy with the current state. The industry was fostering investors, rather than true enthusiasts, they are part of the problem.
Funny, about 4 yrs ago I emailed Roman to ask a few questions about a watch and mentioned why do you guys treat watches like crap and throw them around....he just said yes you are right but never really answered my question.
@@GregSmith-pb3gh IT really is off putting, it was really nice to see what goes on. I'd rather go into a so called hated AD and buy a watch whenever I can.
the same muppets who throw around watches like groceries will skin you from the value of the timepiece you want to sell if the caseback is scratched by laying flat on the bracelet. low class scumbags
These watches are just stock to them, it could be anything else… These trade shows videos are interesting for the banter but the huge mass of these watches gave me nausea. We are led to believe these are rare, exclusive and precious, etc… but in reality not so; there are truckloads of these and these are also sold by the truckload…
Picked up a amzwatch's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
The people who trusted this dodgey tattooed criminal are absolutely mind blowing. There are many reputable traders in Sydney. I believe this man is either in Bangkok or Dubai
That's a very exclusive Sydney CBD address. No wonder people got hoodwinked with such a High Street location giving them confidence thinking their timepiece can be sold quickly and for a profit by a professional, successful and connected dealer. I agree with our esteemed venetian host Oisin: avoid such geezers. They can often be identified by their heavily tattooed knuckles scraping on the ground behind them and they saunter down the high street, usually dressed in bright Fluro designer garb, often in company with a rotund, short, uncouth and obnoxiously loud man-child screaming into a GoPro.
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on mamacoo 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
If it looks like crap and smells like crap chances, are it probably is crap . I feel sorry for the pigmy with the tough stickers one day he might meet a guy he ripped off and the tough stickers are not going to save him . Karma is a bitch when it bites back.
Again. Who wants to deal for a time piece like this by a dumpster in the back alley from a guy who just got out jail? Why anyone does business with these charlatans is beyond me.
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on amzwatch 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
I am in Dubai. If this guy is genuinely in Dubai then it would not be easier to report him to the local authorities who will do their job. Fast and efficiently. Through friends I know a local who deals with deportation of scammers. The other way to catch that guy is passport renewal as at some point he’ll need it. Yet another easy way to clamp onto someone unless that person goes rogue abroad…
Funny thing is a watch market is worst place to do dealls, Im often buying and selling antiques, electronic. all kind of stuff that I can make some money on it, and watches are most risky, brutal, angry, fake, non trusty and ugly market from all of them. People are rude and so many scammers between them. I never buy watches for flipping, always for my self and sometimes I help people with my knowledge and many times they didn't say thank you when they know what they need. This is very ugly and specific market infected by worst people.
I hate to say it, but I fear the same. Once the flexing and the flying starts, it just raises red flags. I own my own business and know what travelling like that costs and is there enough money in watch sales to carry all that? Please let me be wrong!
The watch market world wide had such a dark side, you thank used car dealers are crooks. let me put you on a wait list and I will see if you can spend $10,000.00 bucks on a stainless steel watch. another Crime piece gentlemen !!.
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Looks like a fairly respectable young lad. I would definitely give him my luxury watch.
Never buy, sell or consign a watch to a guy who: 1. Wears a ball cap backwards. 2. Wears a hat indoors. 3. Has tattoos. Etc. Why does anyone have to write this?
amen
C'mon now, I have one tattoo,U.S.M.C. surely I get a pass right?
1. any adult conducting business with a company called 'Watches 'R Us' is a mark.
2. any adult conducting business with a gentleman who models themselves as a prison convict is a mark.
3. any adult conducting business without due diligence is a mark.
Must of had a trip to the States in the past and bought his 11 illegitimate children some Legos from Toy R Us store...which has also gone tits up.
Tugging on Coat tails!
Mark ass buster!
The prison tattoos was a dead giveaway. Why the owners trusted him is just beyond stupidity.
HA!
prison tatoos? hardly moishe soyberg
so u mean everyone with tattoos are crooks?
Sharf hoodie style is also a RED FLAG!!!!
Tattoos especially on the hands is always a red flag.
Tattoos anywhere to be fair
Never trust your money with someone that gambles... never
You didn't even mention the biggest red flag!
If his profile picture shows him perched over a poker table? That's probably bad news! 😢
Tugging on Coat tails!
Or rented Ferrari's
I don’t understand people handing over watches to people they don’t know, absolutely crazy
It's the same as handing over fine artwork. There's literally no difference.
@@clifforddriver9434 you cant wear a painting on your wrist and a painting doesn’t tell the time so fucking shut it
Interesting, you'd do your research how long the person was into horology, and in Sydney, who would you trust? Well there's a guy who is a real watch maker who invested a crateload to build watches who has been dealing for yonks, so he's the kind of person you'd deal with. It takes a long time to build reputation, so do some real due diligence, don't be a sheep.
You are absolutely correct 100% Oisin…..And yes, you could tell by this guy‘s appearance…. He’s not a refined person….! Another scam artist…! Don’t ever sell your watches on consignment ever! Good reporting Oisin…5 ✨
It’s just so tough to protect people from bad judgment
You can judge a book by its cover when it comes to watch dealers.
That picture isn’t Ian Tilman - news posted wrong picture
so many watch dealers are scammers!
Car dealers,real estate anywhere big bucks are involved.
Literally anything big $$ is involved
Asking for cash for significant amounts is an immediate signal of a bad operation- at the very least they are involved in tax avoidance. It’s also known that expensive watches are used for money laundering and even trafficking. People criticise authorised dealers but they offer security and you don’t have to deal with criminal types out to scam whoever they can. This sort of thing only started happening when some people started regarding watches as investments, which they are not.
Watches are us 😂
These people probably believe politicians are telling the truth.
Tugging on Coat tails!
The company name would have been the first red flag.
You only need a backpack and a rail pass to become a watch dealer these days?
Tatts n watches…
As an Aussie who has spent way too much money on watches, most of them from second hand dealers, what were these guys thinking? Did they do no homework before they rushed into this? There are highly reputable dealers in all the capital cities that have been around for a long time and earning very good reputations, I've dealt with a few of them with no drama. These guys were just suckers waiting to be ripped off.
Call me a snob but I never do business with someone who has tattoos on their hands or face unless I want a builder...
Anyone that get tattoos in place they shouldn't be you know there fucked up people. I got 4 tats if I could go back in time I wouldn't have never got them they make people look trashy.
Concur
Also always buy with a credit card since if scammed, you can reverse the charge and get your money back.
I'm exactly the same. People can call us snobs all they want
Or class A's obviously 😂👍
At one stage I thought it was Paul Thorpe’s wrist.
good one
The problem is the real owners will report the watch as stolen. Then the new buyer is going to be screwed.
Well said Oisin.
I feel the sympathy, yet sometimes it's a lesson that one needs to learn....🧐 GET HIM !!! 👊
Those "refined types who know about art & wine" can be scammers too, they're just better at it; look at Aurel Bacs and Goldberger, for example. Pretty silly to assume that these people are any more honest, just because they wear a suit and know a fun fact or two about grape juice.
Well said. It's remarkable how this sector has evolved since the pandemic. One normally would associate fine Swiss time pieces traded by smart, professional, central Europeans in the manner of a private banker. After Covid, baseball caps, tattoos and vulgarity
Even private banking people can be frauds, look at Bernie Madoff and I doubt he is the first nor the last one…
Hey O'Malley, you may not like everything I have to say here but ever since Roman started filming the trade shows, it has left a semi bitter taste in my mouth; The way they handle these items that we cherish, it is with no emotions, sure they are some what used to dealing day in day out and therefore, they see it as a business. However. the treatment of watches in these shows has lost some value for me in a lot of these dealers. Another big issue for me is when these guys wear watches they have for sale, that is so unethical. So, yea you are right about the watch world full of cow boys. Online journalists have commented about the market being low, it is a correction in my view because prices went from 0-60 in few months with the help of guys who thought they were in the stock market with high frequency trading. I am so happy with the current state. The industry was fostering investors, rather than true enthusiasts, they are part of the problem.
Funny, about 4 yrs ago I emailed Roman to ask a few questions about a watch and mentioned why do you guys treat watches like crap and throw them around....he just said yes you are right but never really answered my question.
@@GregSmith-pb3gh IT really is off putting, it was really nice to see what goes on. I'd rather go into a so called hated AD and buy a watch whenever I can.
the same muppets who throw around watches like groceries will skin you from the value of the timepiece you want to sell if the caseback is scratched by laying flat on the bracelet. low class scumbags
These watches are just stock to them, it could be anything else… These trade shows videos are interesting for the banter but the huge mass of these watches gave me nausea. We are led to believe these are rare, exclusive and precious, etc… but in reality not so; there are truckloads of these and these are also sold by the truckload…
No sympathy for idiots.
Thought it was the blob of Brisbane…..
Clay?
Grazie per aver condiviso queste preziose informazioni.
Picked up a amzwatch's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
And look what happened to 4P? Tattoos on hands period or saying you’re “honest” seems conspicuously and criminally consistent.
Who is 4P (genuine question)
@@thediplomat3137 A crook , a liar and Nazi.
Don't ever buy watches as an investment, buy them to wear! Investments go up & go down, unless you have money to lose think very carefully..
The people who trusted this dodgey tattooed criminal are absolutely mind blowing. There are many reputable traders in Sydney. I believe this man is either in Bangkok or Dubai
That's a very exclusive Sydney CBD address. No wonder people got hoodwinked with such a High Street location giving them confidence thinking their timepiece can be sold quickly and for a profit by a professional, successful and connected dealer. I agree with our esteemed venetian host Oisin: avoid such geezers. They can often be identified by their heavily tattooed knuckles scraping on the ground behind them and they saunter down the high street, usually dressed in bright Fluro designer garb, often in company with a rotund, short, uncouth and obnoxiously loud man-child screaming into a GoPro.
That dealer looks like the archetype of a sketchy scammer.
This video deserves more recognition.
Here we go again 🤦🏼♀️
Watches r us ? Like toys r us ? Come on bro 😂
As opposed to Hodinki? Watchdeals? Chrono24? Jaztime? They all sound like untrustworthy names to me, and yet...
Some epic puns in that news report, I bet they are very proud over there 😂
I'm so impressed with your creativity.
Watches R Us..😂😂😂
Why are watch dealers always either from the Traveller community or covered in tattoos?
It’s not even Ian Tilman in the picture , news got it wrong
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on mamacoo 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
Let's not insult the used car salesman.
How hard is it to see these guys are jocks? Did Paul back him up?
Great channel - as an avid watch admirer, I’m hooked!!!
You need to do a Public Service Announcement (PSA) once a week until people finally get the message.
and becoming the next Paul Thorpe?
If it looks like crap and smells like crap chances, are it probably is crap . I feel sorry for the pigmy with the tough stickers one day he might meet a guy he ripped off and the tough stickers are not going to save him . Karma is a bitch when it bites back.
“Never trust anyone but your mother…but still cut the deck.”
-Dad- many years ago.
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Again. Who wants to deal for a time piece like this by a dumpster in the back alley from a guy who just got out jail? Why anyone does business with these charlatans is beyond me.
This video really touched my heart.
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on amzwatch 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
Love your review, honest friend. It is a pity that you are not available to review our watch.
Apparently Ian Tilman fled to Dubai and has been there for some time now.
who told u this mate?
I am in Dubai. If this guy is genuinely in Dubai then it would not be easier to report him to the local authorities who will do their job. Fast and efficiently. Through friends I know a local who deals with deportation of scammers.
The other way to catch that guy is passport renewal as at some point he’ll need it. Yet another easy way to clamp onto someone unless that person goes rogue abroad…
Another successful graduate of TPG University.
Where's Archie Luxury? I'd love to hear his take on this matter. 😂
TPG graduate 😂🤣 but fir the victims it’s 😭😤😡🤬
Archie offered his horns on consignment and is still waiting for offers
You are 100% correct❤❤❤
This video made my day better.
If you watch youtube watch sellers, many more look like this guy than some kind of sophisticated gentleman.
I would argue that RUclips is certainly NOT the standard by which one should judge.
Do people really lack the skill to look and someone and not think... 'He looks dodgy' lol
Este video realmente me llegó al corazón.
When is Anthony going to face the Judge?
No idea. A guy called LUS on RUclips seems to be following up from time to time. I am curious about what will happen next. $5M should be a huge crime…
This video is top-notch quality.
Book him Danno, shame Shame SHAME😢
Este video es increíblemente inspirador.
Spending 100 grand without checking him out a bit stupid
Beware anyone donning a flat-brimmed hat and sleeve tattoos.
"The flat-brimmed hat is the modern day dunce cap." --Daniel Tosh
I feel connected to you through this video.
This video made me think deeply.
They prefer to be paid in cash. “No shit”. 😂 Good job commentating without over talking.
My mother told me : In business - Tatts and/or baseball cap - RUN.
Your mother sounds like a prude
No kidding. I wouldn't leave a Casio in consignment with a guy looking like that.
Yeah because a suit and a tie won’t f* you over …
My mother told me, "A fool and his money are quickly parted".
The most sweeping generalization ever
You did an amazing job.
Mazal!!!! My friend 😂😂😂
😂
Mazal is a dodgy
🤣😂 That’s mad.
What you said was 100% true
Nice video mate 🥃🏌🏽♂️
Thanks for the update.
I'm with you. These youtube watch flippers all seem so shady. And that term "mazal" makes me cringe so hard.
Cant hide with those tats, someone must know where he is probably Dubai
🤣🤣A fool and his money - are soon parted.
lol..Where were all these cultured men warning people two years ago?
I purchased an Everose Meteorite Daytona from the timepiece gentleman. Thanks Tony!
You'll hear from the original owner someday. Or the cops.
Vulgariant is a good word, it describes them perfectly. I'm not going to name any names, but some are here on RUclips too.
Crackpiece gentleman
Strong George Michael vibes, great video!
Awful, so shady
Just fall guys for the real criminals at the top.
Funny thing is a watch market is worst place to do dealls, Im often buying and selling antiques, electronic. all kind of stuff that I can make some money on it, and watches are most risky, brutal, angry, fake, non trusty and ugly market from all of them. People are rude and so many scammers between them. I never buy watches for flipping, always for my self and sometimes I help people with my knowledge and many times they didn't say thank you when they know what they need. This is very ugly and specific market infected by worst people.
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Ich habe so viel aus diesem Video gelernt.
Really like that gold sub you got on!
Watches R Us , I imagine it took about 2 minutes to think up that name.
I would love to hear Lenny‘s point of view on these pieces of crap.
Obrigado por compartilhar essas informações valiosas.
I think the next chap for this too happen to will be a certain fella from Belfast area
I hate to say it, but I fear the same. Once the flexing and the flying starts, it just raises red flags. I own my own business and know what travelling like that costs and is there enough money in watch sales to carry all that?
Please let me be wrong!
Possibly, if the pikeys don’t get raided again first
Nico, really ? 🤔
These people are ruining the grey market industry. SMH.
The watch market world wide had such a dark side, you thank used car dealers are crooks. let me put you on a wait list and I will see if you can spend $10,000.00 bucks on a stainless steel watch. another Crime piece gentlemen !!.
I've watched this video multiple times already.
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