In the original timeline, Queen Zeal summons an angry Lavos and dies along with the Kingdom of Zeal and the Mammon Machine. There's no Crono and his crew to intervene Lavos' attention and subdue the Mammon Machine with the Masamune. The portal event still takes place. So her son Magus in 600 AD follows suit by summoning Lavos and dies. We alter time by basically saving Magus from soloing Lavos and dying. 'The Entity" then shoves us to 65M BC and Magus to 12K BC which indirectly saves his mom by being the Prophet and telling her about all these events. That's why the Black Omen exists.
Okay, looks like there's not enough information there in the video, so I'm going to tell my own lore about this space faring, planet parasite. First thing's first, the design of Lavos. The design of Lavos is actually based of a French Mythological creature called Peluda. A Peluda is a mythical hairy dragon that was the last one to the party when the biblical flood saturated the planet when God( depends on the version that you believe in) decided to punish man for their actions after the eviction of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden. When Noah was gathering all of the animals in pairs, I guess he decided that the creature would not fit on the ship... Anyway... Being the odd man out, it actually survived the flood by hiding out in a cave near the Huisne River. Once the water level returned to normal, it began its assault on mankind by causing trouble in the plains of France in the La Ferté-Bernard area. The creature's attack are simular to the attacks Lavo's but minus the use of its tail. It can: Searing breath that could wither crops. Firing off its quills like arrows. Invulnerability except for its tail. Creating floods by stepping into rivers. A single strike from its tail was lethal to a full grown man. Breathing out fire as a typical dragon. Spitting out a powerful stream of water or acid. But despite the fact that it was the size of an ox, it was still a force to be reckon with. The original description of the creature was that it had the features of a snake but with turtle like feet. Unlike the game where you have to go through all of the game bosses to kill it, if you cut off the tail of the creature, it drops dead! As far as its origins are concerned, they are vastly unknown at this time. As far as we know it came from space and has the ability to alter the course of history and the evolution of the planet's inhabitants like a farmer cultivating its crops on its land. Once, it was "time to harvest", it bursts from the ground like a festering sore only to rave havoc upon the planet with its ear shattering cry. By that time, it would create spawns of itself through asexual reproduction and like a dandelion will leave the planet of their birth behind and scatter into the deep reaches of space. My theory basically comes to this. The group of heroes may have prevented the world from being drained, but they have only delayed the inevitable. There's a one in a million shot that another Lavos will appear again, but as far as the universe is concerned, unless drastic prevention is done, the universe is doomed and it can not be stopped. Sorry to be so grave and dark about the subject, but this is the most likely scenario for that game's universe.
Sounds about right... Makes me wonder though, do the lavos kind know what planets have allready been infected..? if so, will they only ever send one seed per planet, so they dont have to fight themselves... or is two lavos landing on the same world utter CHAOS for all involved? hum.
Lavos. Well, he is my favorite villain in any game, without saying a thing! And I think that is because he is the Gestalt the unites both the story, the gameplay and even the music of Chrono Trigger. This is mostly my speculation from things in the game. Lavos is an interplanetary parasite that entered the planet in 65 000 000 Bc and began absorbing the life energy of the planet since. Everything began with Lavos, for he destroyed the reptites and made it so humans could become the dominant species. Then humans extracted magic from Lavos and created an age of enlightenment. Lavos made progress possible. In the far future, once Lavos wakes up, humanity lost its dominance and the planet was destroyed. Everything ended with Lavos. Lavos is the Alpha and the Omega of Earth in Chrono Trigger. However it doesn't end there. Characters like Frog and Robo before the final battle claim that he has been absorbing the DNA of every single living thing as well: this is why he is able to summon the powers of the previous bosses, copying it's abilities. It is also why he had an humanoid shape for the final boss, for the dominant species on Earth were humans. It is important to note that Lavos is the not the Humanoid form he spawns from collecting all the energy of the planet and the species data, but the small core that lies by it's side. Lavos made humans the dominant species on the planet so HIMSELF he could create the perfect lifeform, or "GOD". However it is naturally always incomplete, as even with all beings from the planet the combined DNA still isn't infinite. This is why he spawns smaller Lavos that would one day go on their own quest to create the perfect lifeform within themselves when the time comes to leave into other planets and harvest their energy as well. In other words, the purpose of Lavos species is going on a neverending quest to create God within it's shell. That is pretty cool. But since Chrono Trigger is really good at telling a lot while saying very little, it gets deeper. This is a long running thing within the Chrono Trigger fanbase, but in the Robo and Lucca sidequest where you bring the forest back to life, they begin talking about an "Entity". This is speculated to be either God or the Player, or maybe they are one in the same, and are responsible for the time warping. Chrono Cross taps a bit into this meta, but If I were to explain how Lavos was able to warp time and make the Black Omen exist beyond time (in all time periods), them I would estimate, in a way, Lavos is the player, or Lavos "wants" to become the player. "It is like someone wants to revisit this events and memories, from different times." is the gist of what Robo tells the party after thinking long for 400 years. For this reason, since Lavos is the beginning and the end of Chrono Trigger's world, I feel that he is an analogy for the player to make the spark, to catalyze the events for a big epic adventure. After all, Chrono, Lucca and Marle never needed to save the world, they were at a perfectly safe time period. Unlike other RPGs, in Chrono Trigger they decided to save a future that they would never live in, there never was any imminent danger to them. That is a catalyst was needed, Lavos: the Player. I think this reflects in the nostalgic somber music in his first form that plays after the triumphant main theme of the game once you have defeated the boss rush gauntlet, as if Lavos was awaiting the moment of the end, the climax when he is finally fighting the heroes he summoned in the first place. In Lavos second form this is further reinforced by playing the main world theme and distorting it for the sake of contrasting the weight Lavos has in the world and in the narrative: the more upbeat parts of World Revolution are the terrifying last showdown for the heroes, whilst the motif of the world theme is Lavos/Player reminiscing on the adventure. The third form is the only one which warps through time, and the "core" is not what you expect, for even the great supreme form Lavos has created in the supposed 65 million years is but another puppet in the traditional RPG narrative, the final boss, while the creator lies by it's side. The scream incorporated in that song could serve as the reminder of the animalistic Lavos contrasted with his newly acquired humanoid form. And of course, the final screen of the Earth in the game, now with the final variation of the main motif of the game, is the same shot you seen in the bad ending of the game where you loose aganist Lavos and the world is laid waste upon. Contrasts of the two outcomes possible that Lavos/Player made possible from it's initial spark. This all naturally lends together with the Newgame+ so that you can face Lavos at any time to see what would happen if certain events in the story hadn't happened yet or if you did something different. Still to this I have to see a better mix of gameplay and story so thematically intertwined. You can even see an ending where the Reptites were never extinct and remained the dominant species on the planet. It is very much so why Lavos and the Black Omen became beyond time. The Entity was recalling memories, all coexisting with themselves, like Robo says, and the result is the time distortion portals, altering history/story. Zeal tapping into those powers through the Frozen Flame (by it's name, a contradiction) is like a character wanting to surpass the story their in. The Frozen Flame, and Chrono Cross has more of it's lore, is like what separates/links the Player(Entity)/Lavos with the rest of the fiction. For if the player and lavos are opposite sides of the same coin, then Zeal, with the Black Omen, tried to land the coin on it's side. But that is why the Black Omen is in every time zone, by tapping into that power, of someone beyond the story you are in, grants you the ability to alter the very laws of the universe you are in. Becoming apart of that collection of memories the Entity is recalling. After all, "dreaming" is a big theme in Zeal, as you can see from talking to the NPCs there, acting as if dreaming is a superior state of being. The extra super boss in the DS version and Chrono Cross and Radical Dreamers go into that theme of "dreaming" a bit more. I think the devs realised how intertwined the gameplay and story was, and seeing what kind of narrative spark Lavos was, "the Entity" was made a thematic blanket the whole game is on. The yearning for an adventure like no other but when you go with the destiny of the prophecy you yourself prophesied. The power of the "Entity" can be seen directly once, in the game. When the "chrono trigger" is used to save Crono, the proxy character for the player. One thing that alters the very laws of the universe so one event could happen.
Damn that's deep. Very, veeeeeeeery deep. Really gets one thinking. I know your comment is over 4 years old, but I still felt the need to say something.
@@mackchop3274thank you. Honestly now I think more of it was the "Planet" wanting to see the hero's actions through. That being the "Entity". Essentially by experiencing the many stages of history, the planet gives its materials through time in form of weapons for the heroes to fight Lavos. Hence Crono and Co represent symbiosis with the Planet, aganist Lavos the Stranger. Something that, as humans tainted by Lavos' influence, is essentially equivocal to breaking the chains of fate, and proving that humanity can indeed coexist with the natural world and not merely feed upon it. The Player BECOMES the World Revolution.
if you look at the unseen forums they say that Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana was once the same game/project known as Maru Island, which explains why Crono and Randi look alike. The mammon machine might have also been called the Mana machine that somehow connected the mana fortress. Black Omen seems similar to the Mana Fortress along with the Ronka Ruins in Final Fantasy V. My theory is that Lavos was a more corrupted version of the Mana Beast.
I always thought of Lavos as a giant Space Tick. Ticks lay dormant until sensing the bodyheat of a potential host, burrow into the host's body, and drain them of blood until the tick is engorged. This act can create lyme disease in the host. Human evolution would be the lyme disease in this case.
A "parasite" is the best description of Lavos. No details lead to his beginning except for when they show Lavos coming to Earth. From the traveling that they show Lavos doing may mean he came from another galaxy. Wouldn't it be interesting if he was an evolved Metroid that could affect time?
thanks for watching it...it was a lot of fun to make...i'm a nerd for fiction and game lore is filled with awesome stories and ideas! hopefully will be making some more soon. If there is any classic characters/plots/whatever you want me to do one on i'm open to suggestions :)
Nowhere in any of the (current) Chrono games are the origins of Lavos explained... it would have been a GREAT plot point for a third Chrono game... the best we can hope for now is that Square decides to do a remake of Chrono Trigger... then again, they DID wait 13+ years to create a sequel to Kingdom Hearts 2... everything is up in the air at this point...
The future for Chrono is definitely less certain than the future of KH. Before KH3, there were at least a multitude of spin-offs being made. That was a clear sign that Square-Enix was still interested in the KH series. Chrono has mostly been abandoned. Up until the "Another Eden" crossover, all that we had were updated ports of CT, with the main port being the DS port. The AE crossover *does* provide some hope, however.
In short Lavos is crazy Space Duck (and evil cousin of Howard the Duck) that landed on Earth to steal all the cut babes (he started with Shala! yeah! rad!).
Well, the earliest Lavos is a virus, but it is pretty funny, because the end of Chrono Cross always reminded me of Crisis on Infinite Earths. What you're doing essentially is collapsing all reality into one single universe, and the Time Devourer, like the Anti-Monitor, cannot exist in that single universe. And since it happened at the dawn of time, it's always been that way. Which also means none of these characters are going to remember it, and the doppelgangers we saw between Home World and Another World no longer exist. (To be fair, in COIE, characters who were at the dawn of time were only truly erased from existence when they died later.)
Hey, saw your comment and had to give this video a watch. Great stuff. I agree with you on Chrono Cross though...I finished it and even did a couple New Game Plus playthroughs as well, but I never enjoyed it nearly as much as CT. There were just too many characters so none of them were really developed that much, and the storyline just seemed like a jumbled mess.
yeah it just couldn't live up to chrono trigger imo. Have you checked out the fan-made rom hack of the original? Crimson echoes...it's pretty cool. it's set 5 years after the original. acts as an unofficial interlude between the two games . neat stuff :)
Some of this was incorrect like when you said " it is unknown if lavos awakens in the dark ages in the timeline that chrono isn't in. He DID awaken proof is magus is in the Middle Ages and was transported there by lavos wether chron was their or not. More proof is Melchior and old man at end of time (can't remember his name). And jasper in the future.
Connectiontheory to World of Warcraft and Game of Thrones.... Lavos are an old god thrown into Chronos world by the Void Lords. The red comet are Lavos or a child of Lavos traveling through the galaxy....
7 years late to this party but I believe one mistake you are making is regarding lavos slumbering state. The thing to consider is that slumbering IS lavos normal condition. It eats the earth while in its slumber and it is its aim to basically be there, feed on earth, reproduce and repeat. Thinking about it, lavos is only seen awake while dispatching its enemies and destroying the earth to ensure the survival of its offsprings. In other words it needs no reason to return to its normal state and the reason it blew up the people of zeal is cause they became dangerous.
if I'm not mistaken. I think I saw Lavos in another game that not chrono related. well his humanoid form. it refer to him as the God of DNA. but again I could be mistaken him for something else. if not tho .he could be a being that last ark of said planet type deal.
We never are given specifics on what Lagos is or where it is from. We have some knowledge about the creature but we don’t know everything. We know basic functions times when it has interacted with the world but if someone were to say where did it come from we wouldn’t have an answer. If someone were to ask about its purpose we wouldn’t know what it did but we wouldn’t be able to say why necessarily. We understand the creatures final goal or goals we even understand how it attempts to reach those goals on multiple levels but again why is the question and where did it come from. Things actually get confusing when you look at the ultimate goal at the end of CHRONO Trigger and CHRONO Cross. Just think at the end of one game it’s all about destroying the planet with a goal that appears to be to create more Spond to destroy other planets. Meanwhile at the end of the sequel the goal of the creature appears to be to devour all of the time. Then of course raises the question why did the goals primary objective change is it the bonding west Schala that changed everything maybe maybe not we simply don’t know. There is one thing we can all agree on though we would love another goal with this we would all love another game in the series. I’m sure most of us would love to see the original two titles remade. I know I’m to the point where you can give me the original title on the PlayStation or an Xbox I don’t care I’ll give you $20 for it just to play it again right now. That’s actually the most confusing thing of all square is literally sitting with this ace in the hole and they just won’t put it out there because we would gladly say thank you and buy the original.
Canonically, lavos was sadly not the entity, instead it's a lame plot point about the planet trying to save itself. It would have been much more interesting if lavos actually was the entity though, think about the implications of an ancient creator, eons old, being conflicted about what it's doing and guiding its own rivals towards a climactic battle with it in order to settle a moral dilemma it's having. Maybe all those tens of millions of years of fostering humanity's growth caused it to grow attached, but can't simply give up because its own offspring deserve to live too. What are the great things about lavos is that it's not actually an evil villain, but an unknowable alien entity just doing its natural thing. Is it really worthy entity, doing as outlined above, this would greatly enhance that aesthetic. Now it's more clear than ever that it isn't a battle between good and evil, but a conflict of complex issues and survival. Ironically making this game one of the most realistic in terms of characterization, despite the fantastical elements.
chrono cross is non-canon (by 90% of the fans). it was a mistake... i will forgive square enix if they make a real sequel and ditch the DS version (with the schala ending in the time devourer, something that was pushed by 10% of fans to make it connect to CC) yes, ditch this mess please square enix... the future refuses to change!
@@ironstar183 Granted it's an artful wonder by Square, but the fact that they shoe-horned its connections to Chrono Trigger into the latter half of the game, plus the fact that nearly the entirety of its plot revolves around a "What if Schala survived" scenario... its writing at best makes a great story out of a shoddy plot point... don't get me wrong, I LOVED Chrono Cross, almost as much as Chrono Trigger... but the game still has its flaws...
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In the original timeline, Queen Zeal summons an angry Lavos and dies along with the Kingdom of Zeal and the Mammon Machine. There's no Crono and his crew to intervene Lavos' attention and subdue the Mammon Machine with the Masamune. The portal event still takes place. So her son Magus in 600 AD follows suit by summoning Lavos and dies.
We alter time by basically saving Magus from soloing Lavos and dying. 'The Entity" then shoves us to 65M BC and Magus to 12K BC which indirectly saves his mom by being the Prophet and telling her about all these events.
That's why the Black Omen exists.
Clear explanation. Thanks!
This is heavy
@@EnjoySackLunch Weight has nothing to do with it.
Man im a dumbass.
I didnt understood whats happening the whole game
I think the Black Omen is proof that by trying to fix everything you create new problems.
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You never really describe WHAT Lavos is, other than a parasite. Kind of a misleading title, don't you think?
Yeah, I was left with the same impression. This video explains _when_ Lavos was but not _what_ lavos was.
Lol I agree, this is like a teaser vid before the real content starts.
I mean, he's basically the love child of Unicron and a Metroid, right?
I heard someone call Lavos a "Dragon Leech."
Okay, looks like there's not enough information there in the video, so I'm going to tell my own lore about this space faring, planet parasite.
First thing's first, the design of Lavos. The design of Lavos is actually based of a French Mythological creature called Peluda. A Peluda is a mythical hairy dragon that was the last one to the party when the biblical flood saturated the planet when God( depends on the version that you believe in) decided to punish man for their actions after the eviction of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden. When Noah was gathering all of the animals in pairs, I guess he decided that the creature would not fit on the ship...
Anyway... Being the odd man out, it actually survived the flood by hiding out in a cave near the Huisne River. Once the water level returned to normal, it began its assault on mankind by causing trouble in the plains of France in the La Ferté-Bernard area.
The creature's attack are simular to the attacks Lavo's but minus the use of its tail. It can:
Searing breath that could wither crops.
Firing off its quills like arrows.
Invulnerability except for its tail.
Creating floods by stepping into rivers.
A single strike from its tail was lethal to a full grown man.
Breathing out fire as a typical dragon.
Spitting out a powerful stream of water or acid.
But despite the fact that it was the size of an ox, it was still a force to be reckon with. The original description of the creature was that it had the features of a snake but with turtle like feet.
Unlike the game where you have to go through all of the game bosses to kill it, if you cut off the tail of the creature, it drops dead!
As far as its origins are concerned, they are vastly unknown at this time. As far as we know it came from space and has the ability to alter the course of history and the evolution of the planet's inhabitants like a farmer cultivating its crops on its land. Once, it was "time to harvest", it bursts from the ground like a festering sore only to rave havoc upon the planet with its ear shattering cry. By that time, it would create spawns of itself through asexual reproduction and like a dandelion will leave the planet of their birth behind and scatter into the deep reaches of space.
My theory basically comes to this. The group of heroes may have prevented the world from being drained, but they have only delayed the inevitable. There's a one in a million shot that another Lavos will appear again, but as far as the universe is concerned, unless drastic prevention is done, the universe is doomed and it can not be stopped.
Sorry to be so grave and dark about the subject, but this is the most likely scenario for that game's universe.
amazing! I did not know about that one
you should write a book
Its wrong.....
Sounds about right...
Makes me wonder though, do the lavos kind know what planets have allready been infected..? if so, will they only ever send one seed per planet, so they dont have to fight themselves...
or is two lavos landing on the same world utter CHAOS for all involved?
hum.
Lavos. Well, he is my favorite villain in any game, without saying a thing! And I think that is because he is the Gestalt the unites both the story, the gameplay and even the music of Chrono Trigger.
This is mostly my speculation from things in the game.
Lavos is an interplanetary parasite that entered the planet in 65 000 000 Bc and began absorbing the life energy of the planet since. Everything began with Lavos, for he destroyed the reptites and made it so humans could become the dominant species. Then humans extracted magic from Lavos and created an age of enlightenment. Lavos made progress possible. In the far future, once Lavos wakes up, humanity lost its dominance and the planet was destroyed. Everything ended with Lavos. Lavos is the Alpha and the Omega of Earth in Chrono Trigger.
However it doesn't end there. Characters like Frog and Robo before the final battle claim that he has been absorbing the DNA of every single living thing as well: this is why he is able to summon the powers of the previous bosses, copying it's abilities. It is also why he had an humanoid shape for the final boss, for the dominant species on Earth were humans.
It is important to note that Lavos is the not the Humanoid form he spawns from collecting all the energy of the planet and the species data, but the small core that lies by it's side. Lavos made humans the dominant species on the planet so HIMSELF he could create the perfect lifeform, or "GOD". However it is naturally always incomplete, as even with all beings from the planet the combined DNA still isn't infinite. This is why he spawns smaller Lavos that would one day go on their own quest to create the perfect lifeform within themselves when the time comes to leave into other planets and harvest their energy as well. In other words, the purpose of Lavos species is going on a neverending quest to create God within it's shell. That is pretty cool.
But since Chrono Trigger is really good at telling a lot while saying very little, it gets deeper.
This is a long running thing within the Chrono Trigger fanbase, but in the Robo and Lucca sidequest where you bring the forest back to life, they begin talking about an "Entity". This is speculated to be either God or the Player, or maybe they are one in the same, and are responsible for the time warping. Chrono Cross taps a bit into this meta, but If I were to explain how Lavos was able to warp time and make the Black Omen exist beyond time (in all time periods), them I would estimate, in a way, Lavos is the player, or Lavos "wants" to become the player.
"It is like someone wants to revisit this events and memories, from different times." is the gist of what Robo tells the party after thinking long for 400 years. For this reason, since Lavos is the beginning and the end of Chrono Trigger's world, I feel that he is an analogy for the player to make the spark, to catalyze the events for a big epic adventure. After all, Chrono, Lucca and Marle never needed to save the world, they were at a perfectly safe time period.
Unlike other RPGs, in Chrono Trigger they decided to save a future that they would never live in, there never was any imminent danger to them. That is a catalyst was needed, Lavos: the Player. I think this reflects in the nostalgic somber music in his first form that plays after the triumphant main theme of the game once you have defeated the boss rush gauntlet, as if Lavos was awaiting the moment of the end, the climax when he is finally fighting the heroes he summoned in the first place. In Lavos second form this is further reinforced by playing the main world theme and distorting it for the sake of contrasting the weight Lavos has in the world and in the narrative: the more upbeat parts of World Revolution are the terrifying last showdown for the heroes, whilst the motif of the world theme is Lavos/Player reminiscing on the adventure. The third form is the only one which warps through time, and the "core" is not what you expect, for even the great supreme form Lavos has created in the supposed 65 million years is but another puppet in the traditional RPG narrative, the final boss, while the creator lies by it's side. The scream incorporated in that song could serve as the reminder of the animalistic Lavos contrasted with his newly acquired humanoid form.
And of course, the final screen of the Earth in the game, now with the final variation of the main motif of the game, is the same shot you seen in the bad ending of the game where you loose aganist Lavos and the world is laid waste upon. Contrasts of the two outcomes possible that Lavos/Player made possible from it's initial spark.
This all naturally lends together with the Newgame+ so that you can face Lavos at any time to see what would happen if certain events in the story hadn't happened yet or if you did something different. Still to this I have to see a better mix of gameplay and story so thematically intertwined. You can even see an ending where the Reptites were never extinct and remained the dominant species on the planet.
It is very much so why Lavos and the Black Omen became beyond time. The Entity was recalling memories, all coexisting with themselves, like Robo says, and the result is the time distortion portals, altering history/story. Zeal tapping into those powers through the Frozen Flame (by it's name, a contradiction) is like a character wanting to surpass the story their in. The Frozen Flame, and Chrono Cross has more of it's lore, is like what separates/links the Player(Entity)/Lavos with the rest of the fiction. For if the player and lavos are opposite sides of the same coin, then Zeal, with the Black Omen, tried to land the coin on it's side. But that is why the Black Omen is in every time zone, by tapping into that power, of someone beyond the story you are in, grants you the ability to alter the very laws of the universe you are in. Becoming apart of that collection of memories the Entity is recalling. After all, "dreaming" is a big theme in Zeal, as you can see from talking to the NPCs there, acting as if dreaming is a superior state of being. The extra super boss in the DS version and Chrono Cross and Radical Dreamers go into that theme of "dreaming" a bit more.
I think the devs realised how intertwined the gameplay and story was, and seeing what kind of narrative spark Lavos was, "the Entity" was made a thematic blanket the whole game is on. The yearning for an adventure like no other but when you go with the destiny of the prophecy you yourself prophesied. The power of the "Entity" can be seen directly once, in the game. When the "chrono trigger" is used to save Crono, the proxy character for the player. One thing that alters the very laws of the universe so one event could happen.
Damn that's deep. Very, veeeeeeeery deep. Really gets one thinking.
I know your comment is over 4 years old, but I still felt the need to say something.
@@G.L.999 thank you man. I think a lot about the Chrono verse haha
@@BinaryDood Dayum, you actually responded despite your comment being over 4 years old. Thanks :)
Thanks for your detailed comment! The content of it was more what I was looking for than what I found in the video itself.
@@mackchop3274thank you. Honestly now I think more of it was the "Planet" wanting to see the hero's actions through. That being the "Entity". Essentially by experiencing the many stages of history, the planet gives its materials through time in form of weapons for the heroes to fight Lavos. Hence Crono and Co represent symbiosis with the Planet, aganist Lavos the Stranger. Something that, as humans tainted by Lavos' influence, is essentially equivocal to breaking the chains of fate, and proving that humanity can indeed coexist with the natural world and not merely feed upon it. The Player BECOMES the World Revolution.
if you look at the unseen forums they say that Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana was once the same game/project known as Maru Island, which explains why Crono and Randi look alike. The mammon machine might have also been called the Mana machine that somehow connected the mana fortress. Black Omen seems similar to the Mana Fortress along with the Ronka Ruins in Final Fantasy V. My theory is that Lavos was a more corrupted version of the Mana Beast.
Lavos is the most beautiful creature in all of the cosmos
I always thought of Lavos as a giant Space Tick.
Ticks lay dormant until sensing the bodyheat of a potential host, burrow into the host's body, and drain them of blood until the tick is engorged. This act can create lyme disease in the host. Human evolution would be the lyme disease in this case.
Plus bringing magic to the world 😁
A "parasite" is the best description of Lavos. No details lead to his beginning except for when they show Lavos coming to Earth. From the traveling that they show Lavos doing may mean he came from another galaxy. Wouldn't it be interesting if he was an evolved Metroid that could affect time?
Quick explanation hes a giant space wood tick
Since the acronyms of A.D. and B.C. Are in the game pretty much confirms that JESUS in canon in the Chrono lore lol
Jesus vs. Lavos (?
Thanks for the recap. Nothing like a refresher course to one of the all time greats
Lavos was in fact a Hakai attack from Beerus in an alternate universe.
This was so cool! I hope to see more of these videos, it had a real case file feel to it. ^^
thanks for watching it...it was a lot of fun to make...i'm a nerd for fiction and game lore is filled with awesome stories and ideas! hopefully will be making some more soon. If there is any classic characters/plots/whatever you want me to do one on i'm open to suggestions :)
Ooo I've got one then, it's the appearance of Gilgamesh in the Final Fantasy worlds.
i like it....adding it the list! thanks for the idea :)
Nowhere in any of the (current) Chrono games are the origins of Lavos explained... it would have been a GREAT plot point for a third Chrono game... the best we can hope for now is that Square decides to do a remake of Chrono Trigger... then again, they DID wait 13+ years to create a sequel to Kingdom Hearts 2... everything is up in the air at this point...
The future for Chrono is definitely less certain than the future of KH. Before KH3, there were at least a multitude of spin-offs being made. That was a clear sign that Square-Enix was still interested in the KH series. Chrono has mostly been abandoned. Up until the "Another Eden" crossover, all that we had were updated ports of CT, with the main port being the DS port.
The AE crossover *does* provide some hope, however.
he’s called a dragon leach
In short Lavos is crazy Space Duck (and evil cousin of Howard the Duck) that landed on Earth to steal all the cut babes (he started with Shala! yeah! rad!).
Well, the earliest Lavos is a virus, but it is pretty funny, because the end of Chrono Cross always reminded me of Crisis on Infinite Earths. What you're doing essentially is collapsing all reality into one single universe, and the Time Devourer, like the Anti-Monitor, cannot exist in that single universe. And since it happened at the dawn of time, it's always been that way. Which also means none of these characters are going to remember it, and the doppelgangers we saw between Home World and Another World no longer exist. (To be fair, in COIE, characters who were at the dawn of time were only truly erased from existence when they died later.)
Hey, saw your comment and had to give this video a watch. Great stuff. I agree with you on Chrono Cross though...I finished it and even did a couple New Game Plus playthroughs as well, but I never enjoyed it nearly as much as CT. There were just too many characters so none of them were really developed that much, and the storyline just seemed like a jumbled mess.
yeah it just couldn't live up to chrono trigger imo. Have you checked out the fan-made rom hack of the original? Crimson echoes...it's pretty cool. it's set 5 years after the original. acts as an unofficial interlude between the two games . neat stuff :)
Really makes one wonder if Lavos might actually be from a parallel universe.
Some of this was incorrect like when you said " it is unknown if lavos awakens in the dark ages in the timeline that chrono isn't in. He DID awaken proof is magus is in the Middle Ages and was transported there by lavos wether chron was their or not. More proof is Melchior and old man at end of time (can't remember his name). And jasper in the future.
Basically, I think Lavos is an parasitic Alien or something like that.
Standing there menacengly to another level
You never told us what Lavos is.
Connectiontheory to World of Warcraft and Game of Thrones....
Lavos are an old god thrown into Chronos world by the Void Lords.
The red comet are Lavos or a child of Lavos traveling through the galaxy....
Why does this video have so many dislikes? It's just a simple overview of the events. REALLY simple, but still.
Me trying to explain to my friends that I play Chrono trigger for the Lore.
There’s a difference between regurgitated info and an actual explanation. It sounded like you were reading from a script, and not a well written one.
Your name and the title made so many think this would be about Gnosticism meets Terminator.....
7 years late to this party but I believe one mistake you are making is regarding lavos slumbering state. The thing to consider is that slumbering IS lavos normal condition. It eats the earth while in its slumber and it is its aim to basically be there, feed on earth, reproduce and repeat.
Thinking about it, lavos is only seen awake while dispatching its enemies and destroying the earth to ensure the survival of its offsprings. In other words it needs no reason to return to its normal state and the reason it blew up the people of zeal is cause they became dangerous.
Man, this was pretty well made. I hope you come back and do more of this sort of thing at some point!
Bring Chrono Trigger to the Switch
Lavos isn't evil. It's just living the natural life cycle of its species.
if I'm not mistaken. I think I saw Lavos in another game that not chrono related. well his humanoid form. it refer to him as the God of DNA. but again I could be mistaken him for something else. if not tho .he could be a being that last ark of said planet type deal.
I'll tell you exactly where you saw Lavos out of Chrono's universe. He looks very much like Cell's 2nd form on Dragon Ball Z.
Well, the art of both series is done by Akira Toriyama
Deus from Xenogears is very similar to Lavos
Every time I run into chronotrigger video or news I get frustrated on how much of a wasted opportunity Magus’s character could have been developed.
Lavos is a large dog tick
1:34 Super Mario Bros movie. Nice!
lame you did not even try to talk about what he was or anything relating to theorys on his past
A fictional character from a fictional game that people take to serious. The End
We never are given specifics on what Lagos is or where it is from. We have some knowledge about the creature but we don’t know everything. We know basic functions times when it has interacted with the world but if someone were to say where did it come from we wouldn’t have an answer. If someone were to ask about its purpose we wouldn’t know what it did but we wouldn’t be able to say why necessarily. We understand the creatures final goal or goals we even understand how it attempts to reach those goals on multiple levels but again why is the question and where did it come from. Things actually get confusing when you look at the ultimate goal at the end of CHRONO Trigger and CHRONO Cross. Just think at the end of one game it’s all about destroying the planet with a goal that appears to be to create more Spond to destroy other planets. Meanwhile at the end of the sequel the goal of the creature appears to be to devour all of the time. Then of course raises the question why did the goals primary objective change is it the bonding west Schala that changed everything maybe maybe not we simply don’t know.
There is one thing we can all agree on though we would love another goal with this we would all love another game in the series. I’m sure most of us would love to see the original two titles remade. I know I’m to the point where you can give me the original title on the PlayStation or an Xbox I don’t care I’ll give you $20 for it just to play it again right now. That’s actually the most confusing thing of all square is literally sitting with this ace in the hole and they just won’t put it out there because we would gladly say thank you and buy the original.
Lavos also comes out on Chrono cross
Very nice. Solid info.
An intergalactic peanut.
Those with eyes to see.....seen a ton of triangles......
Canonically, lavos was sadly not the entity, instead it's a lame plot point about the planet trying to save itself.
It would have been much more interesting if lavos actually was the entity though, think about the implications of an ancient creator, eons old, being conflicted about what it's doing and guiding its own rivals towards a climactic battle with it in order to settle a moral dilemma it's having.
Maybe all those tens of millions of years of fostering humanity's growth caused it to grow attached, but can't simply give up because its own offspring deserve to live too.
What are the great things about lavos is that it's not actually an evil villain, but an unknowable alien entity just doing its natural thing. Is it really worthy entity, doing as outlined above, this would greatly enhance that aesthetic.
Now it's more clear than ever that it isn't a battle between good and evil, but a conflict of complex issues and survival. Ironically making this game one of the most realistic in terms of characterization, despite the fantastical elements.
I always pronounced its name as Lay-vos
I am not on edge. I am the edge. That was random. And inaccurate.
So...what is Lavos ?
Damn. Dislike and like ratio are pretty much even. I can see why.
Um bixo destruidor de mundos
Good video, bad at explaining what Lavos actually is.
Heard of it but never played
you should give it a go...chrono trigger is one of my fav rpgs...that, lunar, and BOF 3
fuck u for never playing it jk
An isopod
So Jesus exists in this story?
XD
great ending with chrono cross
chrono cross is non-canon (by 90% of the fans). it was a mistake... i will forgive square enix if they make a real sequel and ditch the DS version (with the schala ending in the time devourer, something that was pushed by 10% of fans to make it connect to CC) yes, ditch this mess please square enix... the future refuses to change!
Your mother was a mistake moron. Cry more fanbaby.
You are a real mistake of the human gene pool and I will forgive your parents if they agree to never meet when I go back in time and meet them, Kavya.
Chrono Cross is actually an excellent sequel if you paid attention
Castle Road Official agreed, its a great game
@@ironstar183 Granted it's an artful wonder by Square, but the fact that they shoe-horned its connections to Chrono Trigger into the latter half of the game, plus the fact that nearly the entirety of its plot revolves around a "What if Schala survived" scenario... its writing at best makes a great story out of a shoddy plot point... don't get me wrong, I LOVED Chrono Cross, almost as much as Chrono Trigger... but the game still has its flaws...
You deserve more views, dude!
ya but he didnt tell us what lavos was all he did was explain the timelines which you learn from playing the game lol
What the fuck, 24sec for a intro is way to long.
This would be better titled "A Quick Recap Of The Chrono Trigger Plot". Disappointing.
you didn't say shit.
lame
Lavos was easy to beat, way overhyped, corny, and just horribly illustrated. Worst final boss ever.