I promise this isn’t stupid - Ubiquiti Pro Max 24 PoE
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
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Finally, RGB gaming network switch. Well, not really. Ubiquiti is here with their new Pro Max 24 PoE with etherlighting, so you get quick status/speed updates at a glance. Jake couldn't wait to get his hands on it to see if the port lighting is just a gimmick or if it should be in server rooms around the globe.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 This can't be real...
0:38 Unboxing and visual differences
1:31 The name is a bit confusing
2:31 Port selection
4:03 Sponsor - Pulseway
4:36 Starting it up and why the lights are useful
6:02 Trying out different cables
7:17 SC after dark
8:06 Other Etherlighting products and customizing the colours
11:02 Pricing and comparison to an alternative
11:48 Overall thoughts
12:49 Outro 
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Remember that old video when Linus said "RGB isn't the main focus for server manufactures, yet"
Ubiquity took that personally
Seriously I look at my servers like once a year if that. The rest of the time it is strictly text based.
I mean, server rooms need to look swag to get investors right? right?
“YET” !
They love making their proprietary racks all pretty. The ibm or dell storage solutions come in racks designed to look like spaceships compared to the more standard style racks like the one Linus recently got a pink version of.
It needs a load mode, that goes from green to red depending on how much traffic there is in certain ports, and maybe one for packet rate specifically.
red/green is a terrible outdated color scheme imo with the amount of people that are red/green colorblind, a small glowing LED is hard to tell the two colors apart.
@firefox69 then they can add a colorblind mode.... then again should everything default to a small subset of the population?
@@TokoloziI mean, they could also just pick a different color scheme that’s also semantically clear but doesn’t have accessibility issues 😅 I’m not a UX designer but this is a very solved problem
@@bakedbeanfanclub There's no colour scheme that doesn't have accessibility issues, red/green isn't the only colour blindness.
@@bakedbeanfanclub red/green is surely the most obvious. I think most people transpose the red/yellow/green traffic light analogy to mean high/medium/low, no?
The one time RGB makes sense for color coding! You know how hard it is to write documentation for network???
I'm surprised it's taken this long tbh.
RGB has always made sense for color coding. Imagine having your entire PC case glowing red because your fans are set to do that when you overheat. It's possible to set up.
@@MrGamelover23, yeah, my computer is, blackout unless stuff gets dangerously hot. Lol. Only reason I have RGB.
Try writing network documentation when you can have new clients and networks set up for as little as one day. Happens all the time here.
I'm colorblind...so ..😅
The VLAN identification feature is what dreams are made of.
Awesome cause then Trunk ports can be the rainbow road to the internet.
Port 1-4 VLAN 1 orange, port 5-8 VLAN 2 blue. That's cool.
It's my Dream Machine
yeah but they also have an AR feature where the little screen displays a qr code and then your phone or tablet shows you live whats conencted where at the ports
No, no it’s not.. use software defined networking.. the access port is irrelevant
Jake: describes functionality that doesn't exist
Somewhere, a product manager at ubiquiti: furiously taking notes
There actually is an easy way around that cable covering up the light problem - that huge amount of space above each port, they could simply have the RBG lights there right above each port nice and clear so yeah all kinds of IT teams could use the RGB as color coding to make managing racks full of these far simpler for their IT teams. Pretty cool feature with lots of potential if you think outside of the box and don't just associate "anything RGB = gamer lulz".
Yeah for sure spending $15 more on extra pcb wouldn't hurt and there would be no cable compatibility issue
Yeah but that's not as cool... Lol.
But that doesn't let them sell you the custom cables
They use this same design on a 48 port model which doesn't have a massive amount of free space above the ports.
Damn you all really don´t get how businesses operate huh? They obviously want to lock you into the ecosystem@@taktuscat4250
Imagine cables using some cheap fiber optics integrated in them, to not only light up the plug on the switch side, but also on the other end! If you’d want to see where a cable run ends, just blink the light on the port and see where else in the rack/building it lights up! One of my previous employers uses cables similar to that, but you can just use a little device that clips onto the connector and does the same.
Exactly this. This is what I expected to be the use case for, because you can already see in the interface which port is what if you want. But apparently it's not. I hope someone will get this idea to reality, I would be happy to adopt that the next network deployment in our office. Even when the network engineer out of office, he could point out a cable someone should use. There's many use cases to me where it would be useful to light the other end instead the switch side.
I didn't know this existed. I need to setup a new network soon and I'll definitely look this up. That sounds so good!
PatchSee already do something similar.
Seems to me the light wouldn't make it the whole way with keystones in the middle and on the end.
@@JacksonCampbell yeah, you’d need compatible keystones as well in that case, but I don’t think it would be all that difficult to engineer. It’d probably cost quite a bit more for the purchasing party, but it would make life for network engineers so much easier.
My dad told me that someone at his workplace moved his desk and setup stuff to another room, and then plugged in a pc on a voip ethernet socket. Due to the config of vlan’s and the addition of a new IPS, that brought down the network itself apparently. There’s a lot more wrong with this than just the improperly labeled outlet and the person just plugging things in willy nilly, but to be able to label it correctly, knowing what runs where would be a lot easier with tech like this.
Starting a networking job (Which wont be on site most of the time), I was quite excited for this.
If when I need something doing, instead of having to drive to site or try and painfully tell someone how to find the right port, I could just light it up remotely and say "that one".
Also having them set to the VLAN is really nice.
Hoping they do flesh this out a bit more, some of the other features I would imagine are currently on the beta firmware.
that sounds like a dream. imagine how much easier your job would be
I can confirm on Ubiquiti not being able to recognize everything, that whenever I look at my connected devices, my Arch Linux desktop will show as a Steam Deck in unifi network even though it is not that specific distro.
Or magically you Black magic design ATEM mini has packet loss through a ubiquti switch. and your trying to figure out why your live stream is being throttled.
The steam deck's OS is a modified arch linux, so it likely sends the same vendor string. It's still insanely stupid to show all archs as decks and not the other way around (or to use the mac address to tell them apart) though...
its definitely gotten better over time though
@@aysnov The mac address might not be constant. A lot of mobile devices randomise the MACs, unless you specifically tell them otherwise, and I could see the steam deck being no exception.
The steam deck (and networkmanager in general) doesn't spoof mac addresses by default except when scanning.
Out of the box thinking on Ubiquiti's part, what a great idea. And you only need to replace the cables on ports/configs you want to give RGB meaning like this group is the LAG, or these ports are for access points (I know you said that function isn't there yet, but I am hoping it is in their long term plan. They wouldn't need to do anything other than just let you set the color without regard for the things they currently set the color for). Very cool!!!
This will become a mandatory feature in all switchgear by 2030
And yet Cisco still won't do it.
I would love to see a home setup that's normal like a couple poe cameras, a few acess points, a few general plug ins, and then maybe a small home storage. Also a few videos on how to set it up would be cool.
+1. My dad wants to set up their home with security cameras, and it would be nice to see how to do it properly. Currently he just bought a cheap option that has to connect to the home network, and has its own proprietary mobile app to look at the camera feed. Standard and cost-efficient options would be especially interesting.
Check the ubiquiti subreddit
@TUTMak3r I hate reading redit would much rather watch a video and at least get some entertainment out of learning
@@rustedoutwrench it’s just pictures but yeah I get what you mean
there's only like a million RUclipsrs with videos on just this thing.
I could see RGB lighting being soooo useful in networking simply because of being able to color code at the device which things are what, which would absolutely pay for itself in saved time from having to read port numbers or label everything with labelmaker labels that fall off or rub off after a while. Especially if you have someone who’s your boots on the ground but doesn’t necessarily have access to accounts and stuff but you’re talking them through the situation, which happens at my work all the time. Hopefully they add further logic functionality in the lighting, because I could absolutely see a use for this right now.
Having the ability to identify things visually is great. I feel like there should be an indicator above/below the port and not just IN the port, that way you don't have to worry about opaque cables blocking it, or getting the special transparent cables. [I'd like it to be both, and if I had money I'd get the special transparent cables, it does look lovely]
As an often remote network guy, this is my favorite thing unifi has uniquely done. The idea of telling a user "I've marked two ports orange - please plug in there" is amazing. Definitely not a gimmick.
be good to see more videos with jake presenting, i have watched him grow into a very confident presenter. Also i do like the way you present your knowledge Jake, very informative and you can certainly tell you have a passion for it.
Hit the nail on the head: they should add this to everything AND THEY SHOULD MAKE IT CUSTOMIZABLE!!
As someone who uses Ubiquiti products quite a lot for work I can't wait to play with one of these!
I know nothing about networking but some of my favorite videos by LTT or Short Circuit is Jake just being super passionate about it.
RGBICW cable sheathes that are POE powered and matching the switch would be kinda cool.
I love how jake transforms into a kid on christmas everytime new ubiquity shows up.
Ich would like to buy more Ubiquiti stuff. But their refusal to proper support IPv6 in their Unifi lineup is keeping me from doing it.
There is IPv6 support I currently have it up and running on my ubiquiti Network it's just a pain in the butt to set up. Because there's no indication whether or not it's working.
@@SeabooUsMultimedia No it is not. I can't configure ULAs there, I can't configure DHCPv6 IA_PD or any other type of DHCPv6. I can't configure any IPv6 subnets in my unifi controller. I can't even fucking ping my Enterprise 8 poe Switch on an IPv6 address. The only thing Unifi does with IPv6 is to present a router advertisement to the devices with the prefix from the ISP.
If there are all those options, please explain where to find them.
7:45 might trigger some network admins 🤣
Sends me loopy.
definityly excited for the locate port highlight shutting off all other lights on multiple switches. that seems to be the most excitiing possible future update, if not already supported. other than that by device type sounds great also. glhf fam and asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedication!!! excited for the future!
Imagine a fiber-optic diffuser cable that lets you TRACE THE CABLE(probably limited to 15-30 feet depending on bends)
Yea yea yea, this means you'd need an RGB patch pannel but still.
Jake forgot about all the "Ultra" new Unifi gear that is just a rebranding of "Lite," which is just the basic stuff in new cases. And there is nothing "Ultra" about a 1G switch these days.
As Ubiquiti name Ultra which means they are targeting the cost effective market with low cost you get better specs not like pro or enterprise
yep once you go 10g you never go back and all 1G switches are a waste of money
It's Ultra low cost and flexible install. They do explain this in their marketing.
And it's not a rebrand of the lite devices. The Gateway and Switch are new hardware. Only the AP you maybe argue is due to being a Gen 2 AP but it's still different form factor.
@@fujitsubo3323 so you connecting all your cameras and door access with 10Gb connections? Talk about wasting money.
Completely. $800 and not a single 10GbE port on the sucker. I would happily trade the RGB for even just a couple 10GbE ports.
I think it would freak me out for a second if a whole rack would suddenly turn dark if I select a port.
I’d actually have a heart attack I think
You lack object permanence? You perform an action and you can't remember that your action has consequences?
Are you old enough to have a YT account?
@@tim3172 ? no it's because in a typical use case the entire rack going dark means everything has suddenly gone offline - which absolutely is a cause for panic in many situations, especially if you weren't expecting it
@@MotoCat91 Or if you're not the one who pushed the button. It's not implausible that you might have a colleague who clicked it at the same time that you were plugging something else in, making you think that you broke everything somehow.
And I think (would need to see it to know) it would actually be easier to locate in a rack if all the other lights stay on. The one switch that's suddenly dark helps you quickly pick out which switch you're looking for, then look for the one lit up port. If everything went dark except for one port but your room was fairly well lit it could actually be a lot harder to find the one port.
I picked up one of these after the announcement, its great. I agree they should give you more customization options for the etherlighting
Ngl the part of the video where you turned off the lights was quite more relaxing than those big bright studio lights. What about warm softer lights tech showcases? Gn
This is actually really cool. I hope they add lighting profiles, so you can quickly find a device and see if it's on a specific vlan or at a specific speed. Two clicks and you instantly know from a glance if you need to move it to a different port. Chef's kiss.
Imagine if they add the ability to set the colours of individual ports yourself. You'd be able to easily group specific computers, or colour code entire sections of the network. Would make it so much more useful.
ubiquiti be doing anything but actually making their products work as expected
They are garbage. DO NOT BUY. I have worked for MSPs for the last 10 years. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP BUYING THESE. Going with literally ANYONE else. Meraki, DATTO, Aruba... LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE.
Just like Apple
@@LeonLionHeart God please not meraki, I'm not a huge fan of Ubiquiti, but wow Meraki is the least user friendly and over priced piece of crap I have ever seen.
They work perfectly fine in my experience, I'm not sure what you guys have encountered. Maybe longevity wise things like Access Points last longer from other companies, but Uniquiti's UI is unmatched I think.
@@LeonLionHeart The only good thing in Ubiquiti are their Wifi 6E APs which is cheap compared to other companies.
this would be great for fiber ports for identifying end-to-end connections. Even for a copper run they could run a fiber strand to each jack connector for quicker identification.
I seriously need one of those. Being able to identify vlan enabled ports would be a godsend!
Honestly these feel like a great idea for live entertainment. Between video outs, Dante, AES, DMX, and a million other things you see in complex installs that often need to be hot swappable the color coding would be awesome.
Just ordered this switch to handle my lone 2.5gbe connection from my UDM-SE. Damn you, Ubi and your rabbit hole
its actually useful; we have luminex switches at work, and i always use the rgb to visually show VLan designations
I agree, on the surface, it looks like very much follow-on trendiness... With context, however, I can see a lot of utility here, especially for remote teams or for dynamic changes to the network.
Thus could be a good idea if they did let you change the colors like you mentioned. Being able to color coordinate what wire is what so that when you have to do maintenance would be easier.
id love one. It also makes showing vlans so you know what ports are for what. So color coded via vlan. Sweet!!!
This would look super clean next to my Dream Machine / NVR Pro - as a home user, I would LOVE this. Plus it would tie in with the PC next to it.
I saw the usefulness immediately. Their marketing should focus more on practicality and less on applesque looks. To me it seems like they've got the priorities wrong. Maybe the port itself should be translucent so it didn't matter what cables you use, or maybe the light should illuminate an area that's larger than just the inside of the port.
Breathing is so annoying that I end up disabling all leds that don't allow switching it to static. For the first unboxing experience it's fine, but it wears off extremely quickly once the device just sits in a cornet. Thank goodness they fixed it.
this would be a good idea in my line of work, i chat with network programmers to plug into switches and if they could dedicate lights to indicate what ports i need to plug into that would be great
I love the rgb ports, I want one now
One rgb port?
Gotta say, ever since I saw the Shark Jack from Hak5, I've wanted more people to pass light through RJ45 connectors. This is exactly what I had in mind. Thanks, Ubiquiti, for making dreams come true
I could see this being useful in a larger deployment with dozens of switches, where you might assign a unique color to the first 8 ports for ESX data, next 8 ports for ESX vmotion, next 8 ports for ESX vsan. Then you could just tell the cable monkey - who often can't find their backside with both hands - to plug cables into the appropriately colored port.
Another cool feature could be relative load, i.e. green/grey idle and red fully utilized, if you want a quick overview of where traffic is going to and coming from.
I bought and set up a couple 48 pro max switches at my company.
I bought the switches because they are quite cheap for their features like 2.5gig, poe and especially redundant power.
The rgb thing was just a nice bonus for us.
The do look really pretty, but the locate function is probably the only real use for it.
I want special cables with a thin strand of fiber optic so you can see the colors at both ends. Bonus points if there was some (easy) way to attach that though wall plates and everything. Etherlighting in walls has a log more potential to be helpful in my opinion.
If only unifi's damn controller software would identify the devices on the right ports this might actually be useful.
True that! It is hot garbage. Prob the Chinese hacker man in the background changes them around for you since they have backdoors.
I bought this for the 10G SFP ports and the 2.5G ports. My favorite feature is having all the ports in a single row, makes for neat cabling.
I like it. Can only imagine the banger discos and raves in server rooms and datacenters...
Very good idea, could spare a lot of time searching for a port . does the full transparent rj45 have the metal shielding ?
I started seeing videos about this a few weeks ago and I was like, wait Jake is a huge Ubiquiti nerd...and it has RGB, why hasn't LTT covered this yet..... lol, but you finally got there. Big productions take time, I get it.
I got this switch 2 weeks ago and it's pretty nice. It is the only thing I could find under $1000 that had POE++ and 2.5gb Ethernet. The RGB added all the megabits to my internet.
Great video , it’s how I learn about networking
The led id feature is rockin
It's refreshing to see Ubiquity trying something different in such a stagnant market. While it's mostly aesthetics, the practicality of the colored ports can't be ignored for large scale setups.
I find it interesting that he mentioned wanting dual PSUs in this switch ... I just recently got to look at a Ubiquiti Edge Router Infinity which has 2 PSUs in a easy swap insert configuration. The Infinity is a 8 port SFP+ switch with one RJ45 as a eth0, and one as a console port. Amazing hardware, but no RGB unfortunately ...
i think it is a nice idea if you have multiple networks or configurations you can show the with light. for example you have a ipmi, a telephone, and a two different ip networks you can mark the mit colors. i have this done in my home network and at work with small colored dots over the ports and a table on the rack for identification. so you find the right port faster. i thinks this is nice with lights
This was the greatest purchase I've made. Link speed identification at a mere glance is wonderful
I think this is FANTASTIC!!! But there needs to be cables that have a fiber in them to transmit the light/color to the other end so you can follow them MUCH easier.... and full RGB control is a MUST, which I would expect them to do after enough people tell them... AND a way to control ALL the RGB Switches from one place....
- ALSO if do that locate feature and the cable is going from one of these to 2nd one then BOTH ENDS should light up with that same color.... and like Jake said ALL of the RGB ports would turn off when you locate... BUT I REALLY think they NEED cables with a way to transmit the light to the other end (like a fiber optic line) oh and there could be two versions of these cables: one with the fiber inside the cable so you only see the ends light up, and the other with the fiber going around the outside (probably a clear plastic coating over the fiber too tho.... or just a clear sleeve on the cable would work) so the entire cable would have light LOL .... some people would probably buy it for their home lab... some people like me LOL - - WHO WOULDN'T WANT RGB ETHERNET CABLES IN THEIR HOME LABS??? lol
Wow, Jake is looking really good. Great job buddy
Any plans to do a video for the "Cloud Gateway Ultra"?
I mean... obviously it depends on whether Ubiquiti will sponsor it, but it would be cool as entry level equipment.
Perhaps a video on where to get started replacing your normal router and Amazon cams etc.
Luminex, a company in the AV industry, has different type of switches that have that LED on each port for a couple of years now. Very easy to locate which ports is on which VLan. Quite a neat ans easy way to work!
That was a good video Jake. I only watched it because of your humourous title, and wasn't disappointed, gj. I liked the video better without studio lights too.
I would love an update to this in a few months with any updates to the color control
I'd say an api for fully custom rgb is a must for something like this. Even if you want to display company logo or lets say writhe some text, you should be able to do that.
If they offered cables that carried the light to the plug on the other end as well so you can identify both ends of the connection at the same time would be cool.
Thats actually the most useful thing ive ever seen on a switch to date....
Would have been better if the RGB was above the ports. There's plenty of empty space above the ports to have cut an opening into the metal plate. Then you wouldn't need to get new cables.
From a manufacturing perspective that would be way more complicated and expensive to achieve is my guess.
Wouldn’t work on the 48 port model…
Aren't switches generally at/near the top of racks due to their light weight and wanting to keep the center of gravity low?
Alongside the obvious benefits of not having to lift a heavy server to the top?
Hopefully the LEDs don't dim like the ones on the access points do! After a year or so any unifi AP has such a dim (blue) glow that you can only see it when the lights are out!
I have one of these. Yes it's a gimmick but it does make things slightly easier to diagnose. I was having issues with one of my devices not getting the throughput I was expecting. I quickly noticed thanks to the link speed colour coded RGB that the port was only connecting at 100 mbit instead of 2.5 gbit. I would have worked it out anyway after looking at the link speed of the connection on my computer and in the Unify UI but it certainly sped things up. The other features on the switch are what I bought it for as it had the right number of PoE and 2.5GB ports for my purposes at home. Ubiquiti do 24 and 48 packs of the UI cables, which are pretty cheap so I just got a 24 port of those.
Really like Ubiquiti's suff and have swapped all of my networking out for their stuff only so that it's easier to track down issues in a network. However, the Dream Machine SE has a known fault which means you can't power it down without it going into a hard lock mode that requires a 20 minute power off reset and unfortunately, they don't support a UPS that can shut the router down in the case of a power failure. I'm guessing they'll silently fix this issue in their next Dream Machine but who knows when that comes out.
'Running a patch cable up directly to a patch panel'; yeah i remember my first home lab too.
The only thing I wish this had was proper fast-blinking lights for port activity :)
It does.
Even outside of the lights, it's a great 'upgrade' from their previous 24 poe pro switches. All the ports in line alone is enough.... I hated trying to run the pro-24-poe into patch panels. The 2.5gbe ports are cherry on top though. I'd still like to see a pro-max-mega or something with 10GbE ports too.
I'd love if they changed colour depending on how much data each port was using!
And an option to choose between instantaneous and total data.
And matching the colour of ports that are communicating with each other!!
Re the redundant power, there's plenty of enterprise gear that runs with a similar AC primary DC backup - though there's also plenty of enterprise stuff that just rolls with more PSUs, or even multiple PSUs per switch with power shared between them as well.
Makes sense to use DC for backup to avoid unnecessary AC/DC conversion losses
Most enterprise switches also have hot swap PSUs.
Luminex uses that RGB methodology in the VLan setup GUI
Ubiquiti is loading out new products and updates fast they have come a long way
That desk is wobbling holy cow
I would love to see the 2.5gb and the lighting make their way to the UDM pro line.
i came really, really close to getting one of these for my home rack
4:03 segue sponsor.
I wish there will be quickbits intro😂.
By the way that rgb gaming nerwork is so cool.
when it was first announced my first reaction was "wow this would be so handy when instructing on-site technicans.. (or even regular users)"
Also mapping devices and cables would be a breeze. If you move into a new location and the cabeling team hasn't marked the wires you could just go into the switch, toggle the port of whatever device you're looking for and boom.
Switch Christmas Trees will be lit in a few years.
I alright thought of a usecase. Remote IT highlights cable to pull/plug using the colors, instead of telling "GO TO THIS RACK THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS AND DO THAT BBLAH BLAH", Id buy it for these usecases for sure
I was hoping the cables would have a fiber in them, to light up the other side. But maybe that is for the next gen pro enterprise plus max switch series...
I wonder how they got around the already existing patents out there for the RGB feature.
I love our Luminex Switches for that feature for years, and that they implemented proper IGMP, unlike Ubiquiti.
7:50 HOLY SPANNING TREE BATMAN!
10:22 "I don't have another switch to test that" - literally having 2 switches there
I like the idea of being able to locate and segment with colour but maybe they should move the LED out of the port and put it above and below the port so that you can see it.
You can color code them and indicate various things like status or throughput etc
I already ordered 4 of these for our network room refresh, can't wait to install.
on a switch that expensive the fact that all the ports aren't poe++ and 2.5gbe is crazy
My handmade patch cables are always beating those factory made. And those all have reflection. Low quality also. I have tested resistance on small patch cables have to be a foot minimum.
8:40 judging from the UI, it does not do much. the light is static except the network speed. Nice feature to have on switches is a small server for a light VM and storage, like NVR or ad-blocking on the network level.
Seeing the tiny unifi express driving these standard rack size switches just looks silly 😂
Jake, the idea of having the secondary power input being 48v is because most commercial grade UPS units run at 48v and having the input configured for 48v DC means that the switch can take a direct DC input from the control circuits for the UPS instead of having to do an extra two steps of conversion ( [UPS 48v - >110/240v] == [110/240v - > Switch internal DC voltage] ). Though they could improve it by making it a modular component that you could switch out to choose a input that suited you more instead of just going straight to 110/240v..
Yeah, probably more customisations will be added in future updates, but thb I would use one of these default modes too, probably VLANs.
Seen it a couple of days ago looking at their lineup, was an instant facepalm followed by the realization that yeah, it’s useful to pinpoint the right cable.