I'm 5'11 and now really appreciate my Perfect 10 bars! When you have ridden tiny bars for years, now in my mid 30's, my back is happier. Had to update my 2005 Specialized Fuse Iv Pro with the S&M 10's and no regrets!
I’m 6’4 and I find anything shorter than 9.5 a bit small. I run 11 inch bars right now and they’re perfect but it’s all up to preference if you’re 7 foot and wanna ride 7 inch bars by all means go for it
I grew up on a S&M Dirtbike with Standard 1in 4pc bars 7.5in tall. IT IS A HEAVY TANK !! But I still ride it and shes solid. On my new bikes im a fan of the 9inch or so bars. new bikes handle and feel so different. Technology is amazing, I wish I could buy all titanium. Its lightweight and the raw finish looks sick. Thanks for the videos. Nice seeing some of the older bikes in some of your videos
My WeThePeoole BMX bike from 2003 had about 7 inch bars. I need to upgrade them. I have been riding in 15 years or so. I'm 39 soon. I need to just go to my local bike shop and get a feel on bars. Great video
Also every BMX bike I have every owned I have cut the bars down on the widths. Always. You may get tall bars but they never have to be "wide" bars. Just cut them and then re grip them.
I have 9.5 and top load but honestly feel like it needs to be taller still and I’m only 5’10”. Feel so hunched over even at that. 8 and 8.5 was the smallest I ever rode to answer your question though
Im just starting, I bought a used eastern 07 traildigger and the bars were so small, everything felt small, ended up buying a used kink gap xl w 9.5 bars. Much better
@@AlfredoMancuso thank you for the answer but i was referring to the handlebars tho, mines are 9.75 and i already got like another stem but not even like that, i feel like it's too big for me, and then i just found out, they have different sizes so i was like fuck maybe that's why
I’m 6 foot four when I started riding I had 7.75 rise volume Regal beagle bars then I had 9” rise Standard strip bar then fiend Reynolds bars in 9.25 then I got some 11” rise shadow vultus sg bars in Matt black I cut them to 27” wide 🔥👍🚲💨
I’d have to look it up but I remember riding Sunday color bars. Things had to be like 6.5. And top that puppy off with a front load stem. Lol those were the days though!
i'm 6.1" and i ride 9.25s with a front load stem. (with a few headset spacers to compensate). i used to ride 10" bars with a super tall stem but i realised that i ride mostly transition and i could probably benefit from a lower bar setup. I inverted my stem bc im broke and couldn't afford a front load and it felt way better. now whenever i ride tall bars it feels like im pushing a shopping trolley and i wonder how i even rode 10". People might think my bar setup is too low for my height but this is what feels good for me. it really is all about preference.
I’m 194cm (6’3’?) and I’d love some 10,25” or 10,5” bars with 3 degrees upsweep. I’m riding eclat morrow 10” bars with highest stem I could reasonably get. I tried 10,5 BSD bars and 11” WTP MadMax bars but they are too mellow for me, I felt like my bars were bend downwards. So I stuck to 10” with good upsweep. Yes I’m extremely picky when it comes to upsweep😂
I'm 5'6", always liked smaller bars, favorite ever were the original s&m castillo bars and odyssey milk bars, I don't remember the size but they are short and narrow.
good video. i know its a year old at this point. ive got a 2001 haro backtrail, the bars on it were 7.5". which was fine when i was a kid, but now that im 6'1" in my mid 30s, its not ideal. i got a set of 9.5" haro baseline bars, its a lot more comfortable.
I'm around 6'3 and I rode 8" bars on frontload cause it was all I knew. Then I tried a 9" bar on topload from a friend and directly ordered a 10" bar for my bike. All the difference in the world for your back and the force to pull the front end up.
Used Peregrine Q bars for years. Switched to Odyssey Chase BS later on. Chase was much narrower and lower (8 inch rise). My riding immediately tanked but I got used to them and wound up better than with the Peregrines. I tried riding an old bike with Q bars recently and it was funky as hell. They seem gigantic now. I still like the Odyssey Chase bars.
Used to ride the animal Tyrone Williams bars back in the day, tiny tiny bars. Put them on one day and it was like “what did you do to your bike?” Lol. Rode 8s for a while and now into 9 or 9.5s. I’m taller so it all worked out
What I think is most important, is up and backsweep. If they really fit your hands, basically every bar height is good. I find big bars comfortable in terms of levrage and body position, but it's wayy too unstable in my opinion. So if you were to get big bars, you need to have a longer chainstay as well. I had 9.5" for some time but switched down to 8.75" because its more stable.
It's more so a case of modern frames have chain stays that are just far too short because almost nobody does huge street anymore just tech stuff, and the art of riding everything all at once has sorta been lost. Along with shorter steer tubes on forks. 09 I had forks with 183mm long steerer tubes. Now the longest you can find is legit making your Bars 10mm lower. But most people now are running like 165s or 170s sometimes in the 150mm range. So like half an inch or more lower. Like realistically for street. You really don't need a rear end shorter than like 13. Even 13 is a touch short for 4 pegs but gets you to 13.2 easier than dealing with slammed set ups. Rear ends used to be 13.75 slammed with drop outs over an inch long. And dudes rode fine. There's dudes who ride modern street on those old frame geometries still at high levels. Kinda like low bb heights don't make that much sense for bnx. Small wheels center of gravity is already low enough. Wheel base headtube angle and stay length. You are right upsweep and back sweep is mad important. But height makes a huge difference once you get it dialed in. Problem is it tweaks bike to bike and also stem to stem in alot of cases. And requires messing with alot of bars.
@@bmxriderforlife1234 Not a single thing I disagree with.. mad props to you man for writing such a true comment bro! The only advantage I see with those shoter things nowadays is the chance for smaller people like me to get a bike that they can handle.. look at Matt Ray: 13,4 chainstay, frontload, 30mm offset fork. I couldn't imagine handling that bike. But look at how clean and stylish he rides and does everything soo effortless even with the long cs. He can do that because he is really tall and has the levrage to handle it all. So if I had a cs that long, Id probably need higher bars or a topload for more levrage but it would probably still feel kinda long.. I am 5,4'. 165cm. I need to have everything shorter so I have control over everything. Not everything long so the longer bars give me more levrage. My body needs to be the levrage. I measured my effective cs at about 13", still longer than maybe even most people these days, I noticed my R15 is wayy too steep because nozzas are too unstable. Ima get a R25 once I sold my R15. I lowered my cockpit to a 7mm rise Frontload and 8,75 Bars. Best decision ever. People need to realize that its not about short chainstays and big bars because it gives levrage, its about you being the levrage and that its way better to pull back for bunny hops instead of up. For more detail I'd need to show some videos lol hit me up on discord if you like LikaMuuk#7314
@Lika Muuk I'm not that tall. And in 9th grade I was on 13.75 stays 74.5 headtube 35mm offset forks with my wheel having to be pulled back like an inch or so to clear my frigging brake mounts(macneil Gary Young 2 frame it had chainstay brake mounts) At best I got it to a 32mm offset fork that didn't account for the tapered legs so its like a 28 to 30mm offset. Had the same frame. Or when I basically cloned that build but shortened the rear end a half inch. If you're like a youth yeah short stays are awesome. But once you hit teenage years unless you're like 5 foot 6 ish range you kinda want some stability if you intended to ride at speed. Albeit 13.75 is long. 13.2 or 13 means you can get it at 13 and a quarter. And use top tube length and bar height plus fork offset and stem length to for most people at least get a build that'll help them with nose wheelies and manuals, still let them hop mad high without pain, bur have long enough wheel base for higher speed stuff. Also tall headtube and short steerers make it almost impossible to run gyros and even with normal set ups headtube wise it can be annoying. You have few fork options or gotta run your brakes tight. I typically run an odyssey medium sized lever and custom bend it works out to you can still leave your brakes loose enough that if you murk your back wheel you can ride to a shop or something. But it works without touching your grip or knuckles. You need like 20mm roughly at least of headset spacers plus like 5mm for a gyro plate. Tall bars is nice. But they went about it wrong. Taller headtube leave fork steersrs like 175mm to 185mm range with the cut indicator marks. Run the gyro tabs low enough on the frame you can get the headset top bearing to site above the gyro if you wanted and rest just above the top tube. Stiffer stronger front end, helps with fork and headset life. Takes some leverage off the bars in the stem for slippage prevention. And also let's shorter rides still ride frames with normal headtubes a slammed stem or less spacers and shorter bars. Like 8.25 to 9.25. 10s become the new equivalent of an 11. Include the usage of switching bmx to 25.4mm stem clamp and tapering bars in the proper areas and we can drop alot of unnecessary weight and gain strength. All the weak bend points and the clamp point gain strength and surface area. Because of further apart headsets get less deflection and will spinning better cause being more perfectly aligned and more of your height in the front end is reinforced. But not being able to get your bars tall enough. For some people a half inch can kill their hops. But if you did everything else proper you'd have to be like taller than hoder to really need 11s I think or run a regular 100 to 115mm headtube no headset spacers a stem that drops your bars and you're tall, but then like why. Other than maybe low top tube frame for whips. But people need to stop thinking of bar height as bar height and more so total height of the system.
In 2009/2010 I was already running silly tall bars. Like 8 inch minimums but with like and inch and a half or more of spacers under my stem. Ended up with same amount of spacers and either 8.25 bars with a topload or madman og bars 8.7 with a flipped toploader that still adds 8mm rise flipped.
I got my first bike ever and it's a custom build I think the bars are like 7.75 I'm gonna get 10 inch bars based off what others are saying. I'm 5'11 and I'm hunched over alot
New to this but why is bar width not more of a consideration also? At 90 my bar ends are at the tip of my seat. 6'1" and that seems like it will make barspins unnecessarily difficult. For reference riding a bone stock kink gap fc with 9" bars
I'm also newer to bmx but rode mountain for ever now, I have a kink launch also bone stock, and my bars are the same way and I believe we have the same bars, I find them very hard to attempt to learn bar spins on, I keep nailing my self with them wich is terrifying lol they are soooo wide haha like as wide as my mountain bike bars! Edit: I just flipped it over and put the two bikes bar to bar and the bmx bars are wider by a solid inch lmao! Why is this!
@@lifewithlenny2696 I just can't imagine bunnyhop barspins on those 30" bars. My buddy who started with me is 5'6" and even his bars, with his feet level, hit him. If your crank is level with the frame during barspins (as it should be) why is your forward leg the main obstacle and not the spin itself? He has a We the People 20" with 3 piece shadow aftermarket bars, same width, same problem
Just got my first new pair of new school bars... After riding haro Slims & midschool gt racing 4 piece bars.... I recently went n got a new pair of gt 4pc bars. Building a Dyno sonic. It's one of only 2 aluminum frames Dyno ever made... It's the forest green one.... .
I'm 186 cm, I've tried riding 9.65" bars on my Cult 2Short, bunny hops are very easy but feels very sluggish on high speed and jumps. Now I'm riding a Hoffman Condor with 8.875" Patriot bars on a top load bars, i guess this is my sweet spot
The worst part of the mid school and their 6,5 inch bars, is that we also rode these with front load or inverted top load stems making the overall height even lower! Plus, most people rode without detanglers, and so the stem would be slammed all the way down on the forks!! Talk about hunchbacks... Standard bikes even had a stem with built in top headset cap so the stem could go a little bit lower!
I had 5.5 cruiser bars for my 24 in cruiser and had to go up to 7.5 Answer pro bar. I was thinking 8 inch but I still need the race profile, i had to find the middle ground for me. The stock 5.5 was just too low for me. I needed to save my back. I'll take the 2 inch rise over 5.5 any day.
But how tall are you boy in the yellow please be honest I have 9” and I’m 6’1 and my back so hunched I look stupid. Should I get taller ones knowing this? Or would longer frame help me more
@@AlfredoMancuso I’ve been out of the scene for so long but they are out there. Can’t remember the companies I’ve been out of the game since Power light & Adamlad. But I did have one in 14 and remember I got it at Empire Bmx I live in the Atx and many moons ago. I like your videos.. and and I moved to Harley’s. Yes that’s been the standard in years but they are out there I just don’t know if they’re being sold anymore.
Banana seat ape hanger bars were like 14" and that's where it started.. then v bars were like 7" to 8", CWs seemed huge and I hated them, Mongoose Californian bars were my favorites for a long time and they're like 8, them og Haro bars were my favorites, now I hate them too, back sweep like a rams horn, midschoo came and I rode 7s on a 40 pound bike... so backwards... back to 8s, now I ride 9s on a. Top load because I'm 50 and can't be crouched all day and 10s and 11s look dumb as hell, almost as bad as a 4 piece bar, (all 4 pieces are ugly. . .) All opinions obviously... Thanks for the videos Alf.
I’m 5’ 10.5” and ride 9.5” now. I’m solidly from the mid school and would have no problem still riding something like standard 6 piece strip bars. I don’t know the height offhand but they were probably 7-7.5” and I ran my stem inverted too. Yes it was hard to pull up on but you could pull with all your might and never loop out! I could definitely hop higher with that set up on a 35lb+ bike than my current 25lb bike but maybe that’s just because I’m an old guy now haha!
I'm not sure of the height but the little v bars in the early 80s were short and narrow with a strange upsweep, i tried to ride them recently and was like WTF
My favorite bars were terrible one but I don’t know the height, I was more impressed that I didn’t have to cut them…my buddy rode the S&m gay bars…those were super low
If it’s a old school bike, it doesn’t matter how big the bars are because you can slide the neck up. Newer bikes have clamp on style necks so you need taller bars, depending on your height and riding style
I'm 6' on a Stolen Max 29 with a 23.25" TT and the bike has 6" bars. Bunny hopping and especially J-hopping are INCREDIBLY awkward. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what size I should try? I use the bike for wheelies as much as I use it for cruising. Thank you.
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I'm 5'11 and now really appreciate my Perfect 10 bars! When you have ridden tiny bars for years, now in my mid 30's, my back is happier. Had to update my 2005 Specialized Fuse Iv Pro with the S&M 10's and no regrets!
Nice bro I'm going to be rebuilding a specialized fuse 2 2010
I personally like to ride with 36" ape hangers on my BMX
I’m 6’4 and I find anything shorter than 9.5 a bit small. I run 11 inch bars right now and they’re perfect but it’s all up to preference if you’re 7 foot and wanna ride 7 inch bars by all means go for it
Can you throw bars?
Yeah and they don’t really get in the way. I cut them down to be narrower tho
What frame size do you run?
@@rodolfoo3015 21.25 inch top tube, 12.75 chainstay and 9.75 standover
I grew up on a S&M Dirtbike with Standard 1in 4pc bars 7.5in tall. IT IS A HEAVY TANK !! But I still ride it and shes solid. On my new bikes im a fan of the 9inch or so bars. new bikes handle and feel so different. Technology is amazing, I wish I could buy all titanium. Its lightweight and the raw finish looks sick. Thanks for the videos. Nice seeing some of the older bikes in some of your videos
My WeThePeoole BMX bike from 2003 had about 7 inch bars. I need to upgrade them. I have been riding in 15 years or so. I'm 39 soon. I need to just go to my local bike shop and get a feel on bars. Great video
Also every BMX bike I have every owned I have cut the bars down on the widths. Always. You may get tall bars but they never have to be "wide" bars. Just cut them and then re grip them.
i had s&m slam bars on a specialized vegas frame. one of my favorite bikes ever.
I'm 5'9" ..9.8 ..feels so good.
..I don't know why any one over 5'9" would go anything under 9.5...trust me your back will love you for it
I'm 6'3 and ride a 21.8 tt and 10.5 bars and it feels great for me.
Haro Lineage Nyquist bars FTW
I'm a little over 6ft and still growing and like high handle bars, so finding handle bars that I think feel good is always hard, i appreciate the help
I have 9.5 and top load but honestly feel like it needs to be taller still and I’m only 5’10”. Feel so hunched over even at that. 8 and 8.5 was the smallest I ever rode to answer your question though
Im just starting, I bought a used eastern 07 traildigger and the bars were so small, everything felt small, ended up buying a used kink gap xl w 9.5 bars. Much better
Great video, thanks for the info, very useful, now i know how to do easier manuals
At 11:48 what are the those blue/teal bars called?
What would be a good size for someone like me 5’6-5’7?
20.0 through 20.25”
@@AlfredoMancuso thank you for the answer but i was referring to the handlebars tho, mines are 9.75 and i already got like another stem but not even like that, i feel like it's too big for me, and then i just found out, they have different sizes so i was like fuck maybe that's why
I’m 6 foot four when I started riding I had 7.75 rise volume Regal beagle bars then I had 9” rise Standard strip bar then fiend Reynolds bars in 9.25 then I got some 11” rise shadow vultus sg bars in Matt black I cut them to 27” wide 🔥👍🚲💨
This helped me a lot. I ride flatland and the trends always flipped from low to high too!
Im 5.7ft hight, using 9.5" bar rise but I choose a bit low top load stem rise which is 25mm. Feeling comfortable.
Bars that are high and wide is my preference. The BMX I had back in my teens had CW-style bars which felt perfect to me.
Thinking about getting 4 piece bars cuz there a bigger box for flatland tricks n stuff and the look and strength
I’d have to look it up but I remember riding Sunday color bars. Things had to be like 6.5. And top that puppy off with a front load stem. Lol those were the days though!
i'm 6.1" and i ride 9.25s with a front load stem. (with a few headset spacers to compensate). i used to ride 10" bars with a super tall stem but i realised that i ride mostly transition and i could probably benefit from a lower bar setup. I inverted my stem bc im broke and couldn't afford a front load and it felt way better. now whenever i ride tall bars it feels like im pushing a shopping trolley and i wonder how i even rode 10". People might think my bar setup is too low for my height but this is what feels good for me. it really is all about preference.
max does stuff in sandals that i can't even do in dreams.
Haha he’s wild for sure
1:00 what's the purpose for those bars?
I’m 194cm (6’3’?) and I’d love some 10,25” or 10,5” bars with 3 degrees upsweep. I’m riding eclat morrow 10” bars with highest stem I could reasonably get. I tried 10,5 BSD bars and 11” WTP MadMax bars but they are too mellow for me, I felt like my bars were bend downwards. So I stuck to 10” with good upsweep. Yes I’m extremely picky when it comes to upsweep😂
I'm 6'2 on a fit 22" frame and I run 1st gen brad sims 9.5" bars.
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I'm 5'6", always liked smaller bars, favorite ever were the original s&m castillo bars and odyssey milk bars, I don't remember the size but they are short and narrow.
good video. i know its a year old at this point. ive got a 2001 haro backtrail, the bars on it were 7.5". which was fine when i was a kid, but now that im 6'1" in my mid 30s, its not ideal. i got a set of 9.5" haro baseline bars, its a lot more comfortable.
Just wait till we come out with the 12" Bar
I'm around 6'3 and I rode 8" bars on frontload cause it was all I knew.
Then I tried a 9" bar on topload from a friend and directly ordered a 10" bar for my bike.
All the difference in the world for your back and the force to pull the front end up.
Always enjoying the food for thought 💭
Hi, I'm 5'10" and ride Waltx Dune 1, how to upgrade to BMX handlebar, Kindly suggest the correct size
The boysssss
Wow! I ride 5.5. No lie.
But I'm racing a cruiser so pretty standard lol. Gotcha!
Used Peregrine Q bars for years. Switched to Odyssey Chase BS later on. Chase was much narrower and lower (8 inch rise). My riding immediately tanked but I got used to them and wound up better than with the Peregrines. I tried riding an old bike with Q bars recently and it was funky as hell. They seem gigantic now. I still like the Odyssey Chase bars.
I got a set of ramp room love handles gen 2 removebile grip tubes in black they are on my 03 pro team condor 😊
Hey, I need a opinion for a BMX handlebars for my 26" mountain bike
7:03 what stem is that pretty interesting
I ride 10s 😎🤙
Used to ride the animal Tyrone Williams bars back in the day, tiny tiny bars. Put them on one day and it was like “what did you do to your bike?” Lol. Rode 8s for a while and now into 9 or 9.5s. I’m taller so it all worked out
Those were so small for sure haha
Nate Hanson! OG Flatland Fugative!
I like the 9” bars.
What I think is most important, is up and backsweep. If they really fit your hands, basically every bar height is good.
I find big bars comfortable in terms of levrage and body position, but it's wayy too unstable in my opinion. So if you were to get big bars, you need to have a longer chainstay as well. I had 9.5" for some time but switched down to 8.75" because its more stable.
I rode 10” bars with 12,44” chainstay, and it felt good so personal preference is everything
It's more so a case of modern frames have chain stays that are just far too short because almost nobody does huge street anymore just tech stuff, and the art of riding everything all at once has sorta been lost.
Along with shorter steer tubes on forks. 09 I had forks with 183mm long steerer tubes. Now the longest you can find is legit making your Bars 10mm lower. But most people now are running like 165s or 170s sometimes in the 150mm range. So like half an inch or more lower.
Like realistically for street. You really don't need a rear end shorter than like 13. Even 13 is a touch short for 4 pegs but gets you to 13.2 easier than dealing with slammed set ups.
Rear ends used to be 13.75 slammed with drop outs over an inch long. And dudes rode fine. There's dudes who ride modern street on those old frame geometries still at high levels.
Kinda like low bb heights don't make that much sense for bnx. Small wheels center of gravity is already low enough. Wheel base headtube angle and stay length.
You are right upsweep and back sweep is mad important. But height makes a huge difference once you get it dialed in. Problem is it tweaks bike to bike and also stem to stem in alot of cases. And requires messing with alot of bars.
@@bmxriderforlife1234 Not a single thing I disagree with.. mad props to you man for writing such a true comment bro!
The only advantage I see with those shoter things nowadays is the chance for smaller people like me to get a bike that they can handle.. look at Matt Ray: 13,4 chainstay, frontload, 30mm offset fork. I couldn't imagine handling that bike. But look at how clean and stylish he rides and does everything soo effortless even with the long cs. He can do that because he is really tall and has the levrage to handle it all. So if I had a cs that long, Id probably need higher bars or a topload for more levrage but it would probably still feel kinda long..
I am 5,4'. 165cm. I need to have everything shorter so I have control over everything. Not everything long so the longer bars give me more levrage. My body needs to be the levrage. I measured my effective cs at about 13", still longer than maybe even most people these days, I noticed my R15 is wayy too steep because nozzas are too unstable. Ima get a R25 once I sold my R15. I lowered my cockpit to a 7mm rise Frontload and 8,75 Bars. Best decision ever.
People need to realize that its not about short chainstays and big bars because it gives levrage, its about you being the levrage and that its way better to pull back for bunny hops instead of up.
For more detail I'd need to show some videos lol hit me up on discord if you like LikaMuuk#7314
@Lika Muuk I'm not that tall. And in 9th grade I was on 13.75 stays 74.5 headtube 35mm offset forks with my wheel having to be pulled back like an inch or so to clear my frigging brake mounts(macneil Gary Young 2 frame it had chainstay brake mounts)
At best I got it to a 32mm offset fork that didn't account for the tapered legs so its like a 28 to 30mm offset. Had the same frame. Or when I basically cloned that build but shortened the rear end a half inch.
If you're like a youth yeah short stays are awesome. But once you hit teenage years unless you're like 5 foot 6 ish range you kinda want some stability if you intended to ride at speed. Albeit 13.75 is long.
13.2 or 13 means you can get it at 13 and a quarter. And use top tube length and bar height plus fork offset and stem length to for most people at least get a build that'll help them with nose wheelies and manuals, still let them hop mad high without pain, bur have long enough wheel base for higher speed stuff.
Also tall headtube and short steerers make it almost impossible to run gyros and even with normal set ups headtube wise it can be annoying. You have few fork options or gotta run your brakes tight. I typically run an odyssey medium sized lever and custom bend it works out to you can still leave your brakes loose enough that if you murk your back wheel you can ride to a shop or something. But it works without touching your grip or knuckles. You need like 20mm roughly at least of headset spacers plus like 5mm for a gyro plate.
Tall bars is nice. But they went about it wrong. Taller headtube leave fork steersrs like 175mm to 185mm range with the cut indicator marks. Run the gyro tabs low enough on the frame you can get the headset top bearing to site above the gyro if you wanted and rest just above the top tube. Stiffer stronger front end, helps with fork and headset life. Takes some leverage off the bars in the stem for slippage prevention. And also let's shorter rides still ride frames with normal headtubes a slammed stem or less spacers and shorter bars.
Like 8.25 to 9.25. 10s become the new equivalent of an 11. Include the usage of switching bmx to 25.4mm stem clamp and tapering bars in the proper areas and we can drop alot of unnecessary weight and gain strength. All the weak bend points and the clamp point gain strength and surface area. Because of further apart headsets get less deflection and will spinning better cause being more perfectly aligned and more of your height in the front end is reinforced.
But not being able to get your bars tall enough. For some people a half inch can kill their hops. But if you did everything else proper you'd have to be like taller than hoder to really need 11s I think or run a regular 100 to 115mm headtube no headset spacers a stem that drops your bars and you're tall, but then like why. Other than maybe low top tube frame for whips.
But people need to stop thinking of bar height as bar height and more so total height of the system.
@@bmxriderforlife1234 Agreed. But since I dont run brakes I cannot really talk about all that gyro stuff, but yeah makes sense..
What is the chainstay length max frame? ty
In 2009/2010 I was already running silly tall bars. Like 8 inch minimums but with like and inch and a half or more of spacers under my stem. Ended up with same amount of spacers and either 8.25 bars with a topload or madman og bars 8.7 with a flipped toploader that still adds 8mm rise flipped.
I got my first bike ever and it's a custom build I think the bars are like 7.75 I'm gonna get 10 inch bars based off what others are saying. I'm 5'11 and I'm hunched over alot
Back in the eighties I ran pro sized bars at the full width, never cut my bars
I just got a sunny day model c 24" spent about 2k to finish it and because I'm 6 foot 3" I now need an upgrade bar from 7.5" to 11" or maybe 12".
Dude looked over his shoulder for Nate Hansen after the clobberring joke 🤣
I have 9.4s on my flatland build and on my Sunday when I grab that I’ll be throwing 10s on for so my back doesn’t hate me more
Hey, are you guys located in Cali? I wanna swing by
Bmx’ing in flip flops 🩴 🤯🤯🫡
I'm gonna put an 11" bar on my Specialized Hard Rock resto 😁😂
Odyssey Milk bars were the smallest bars i rode. I had them in 2002, those bars were so small but so easy to do barspins 🤣🤣
What shoe size is that big vans over there
Used to cut our peregrine q1s down crazy lol
New to this but why is bar width not more of a consideration also? At 90 my bar ends are at the tip of my seat. 6'1" and that seems like it will make barspins unnecessarily difficult.
For reference riding a bone stock kink gap fc with 9" bars
I'm also newer to bmx but rode mountain for ever now, I have a kink launch also bone stock, and my bars are the same way and I believe we have the same bars, I find them very hard to attempt to learn bar spins on, I keep nailing my self with them wich is terrifying lol they are soooo wide haha like as wide as my mountain bike bars!
Edit: I just flipped it over and put the two bikes bar to bar and the bmx bars are wider by a solid inch lmao! Why is this!
@@lifewithlenny2696 I just can't imagine bunnyhop barspins on those 30" bars. My buddy who started with me is 5'6" and even his bars, with his feet level, hit him. If your crank is level with the frame during barspins (as it should be) why is your forward leg the main obstacle and not the spin itself? He has a We the People 20" with 3 piece shadow aftermarket bars, same width, same problem
@@xxtingyxx9497 yeah so weird! I'm looking into what other people ride for widths online now, may try cutting them down a bit 🤔
Just got my first new pair of new school bars... After riding haro Slims & midschool gt racing 4 piece bars.... I recently went n got a new pair of gt 4pc bars. Building a Dyno sonic. It's one of only 2 aluminum frames Dyno ever made... It's the forest green one.... .
WOW Dyno Sonic's are the rarest! Once you build it, snap Phu and myself a photo! Send it to either of our socials @alfredomancuso or @_epicbmx
I really like those black Dyno pretzel handlebars myself.
I used to ride S&M DIVE bars.. 6 1/2 on GT Bump trail rider
I'm 186 cm, I've tried riding 9.65" bars on my Cult 2Short, bunny hops are very easy but feels very sluggish on high speed and jumps. Now I'm riding a Hoffman Condor with 8.875" Patriot bars on a top load bars, i guess this is my sweet spot
It’s the top load I swear in my opinion they feel a whole lot smoother
I had s&m slam bars back in the day
The worst part of the mid school and their 6,5 inch bars, is that we also rode these with front load or inverted top load stems making the overall height even lower! Plus, most people rode without detanglers, and so the stem would be slammed all the way down on the forks!! Talk about hunchbacks... Standard bikes even had a stem with built in top headset cap so the stem could go a little bit lower!
9 is fine
BMX and BARS!
Spit hot fiya! Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan
I only ride 80's bikes and they all have bars at 9inches height or close and the stem up high,my back needs all the help it can get
I had 5.5 cruiser bars for my 24 in cruiser and had to go up to 7.5 Answer pro bar. I was thinking 8 inch but I still need the race profile, i had to find the middle ground for me. The stock 5.5 was just too low for me. I needed to save my back. I'll take the 2 inch rise over 5.5 any day.
I ride my bike with no handle bars…but I’m him…
Lol my old diamondback joker had like 5 1/2” bars I was like wtf can’t ride anything under an 8.5
Im 5 ft 8 and i ride 10s with a 10mm spacer and a topload stem
But how tall are you boy in the yellow please be honest I have 9” and I’m 6’1 and my back so hunched I look stupid. Should I get taller ones knowing this? Or would longer frame help me more
And I know it’s Not about looks but the hunch is real I got a fit trl 2018
thank you for the help
Nate Hanson the Biking Viking prerunner king !
I run custom home made 12 rise bars and there perfect tbh
Great video one thing you forgot clamping size and stem.
That would be more in the stem discussion video. There’s only one standard bmx bar diameter in the clamping area
@@AlfredoMancuso I’ve been out of the scene for so long but they are out there. Can’t remember the companies I’ve been out of the game since Power light & Adamlad. But I did have one in 14 and remember I got it at Empire Bmx I live in the Atx and many moons ago. I like your videos.. and and I moved to Harley’s. Yes that’s been the standard in years but they are out there I just don’t know if they’re being sold anymore.
But doesn't this also depend on the length of your head tube
9" topload
9.5" frontload
Thats it
bet just ordered 9,25 im happy after watching this
I ride a 10in Iam also like 6'2 or 3 anything shorter either feels weird or hurts after riding for like 10mins
Banana seat ape hanger bars were like 14" and that's where it started.. then v bars were like 7" to 8", CWs seemed huge and I hated them, Mongoose Californian bars were my favorites for a long time and they're like 8, them og Haro bars were my favorites, now I hate them too, back sweep like a rams horn, midschoo came and I rode 7s on a 40 pound bike... so backwards... back to 8s, now I ride 9s on a. Top load because I'm 50 and can't be crouched all day and 10s and 11s look dumb as hell, almost as bad as a 4 piece bar, (all 4 pieces are ugly. . .)
All opinions obviously...
Thanks for the videos Alf.
Chase hawk bars!
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Phu always dropping bars. 🎤🏁👊🏾🇵🇭
I’m 5’ 10.5” and ride 9.5” now. I’m solidly from the mid school and would have no problem still riding something like standard 6 piece strip bars. I don’t know the height offhand but they were probably 7-7.5” and I ran my stem inverted too. Yes it was hard to pull up on but you could pull with all your might and never loop out! I could definitely hop higher with that set up on a 35lb+ bike than my current 25lb bike but maybe that’s just because I’m an old guy now haha!
I think it's because when you pull the bike up towards your chest, the front end rises higher with lower bars albeit with more effort.
I love my alienation 9's. Cut to 28" I wanna try the 9.5
I'm not sure of the height but the little v bars in the early 80s were short and narrow with a strange upsweep, i tried to ride them recently and was like WTF
i ride 10inch bares and feel so nice for street and park and dirt
💥💥💥
My favorite bars were terrible one but I don’t know the height, I was more impressed that I didn’t have to cut them…my buddy rode the S&m gay bars…those were super low
I want to stay the t1 bars were 8.8”
10’s
Nice fish... Jorts too.
Fuckin Phu trying to sneak fart! 😂🤣😂
Thank you
I jump from 9 rise to 10 rise and the difference is big but still rocking it (5'6 btw 😅)
I had 8 slams and went to 11s feels mint
9:16 lmao
If it’s a old school bike, it doesn’t matter how big the bars are because you can slide the neck up. Newer bikes have clamp on style necks so you need taller bars, depending on your height and riding style
That was an excellent point on the quill-type stem. Tho some clamp stems allow for spacer height depending on the fork cut
I ride 11” bars and my back thanks me for it.
Nice bro...bar high 11 ever kkkkk
Nate's bike in 2000 was the Phantom Lord.
Haha facts
I'm 6' on a Stolen Max 29 with a 23.25" TT and the bike has 6" bars. Bunny hopping and especially J-hopping are INCREDIBLY awkward. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what size I should try? I use the bike for wheelies as much as I use it for cruising. Thank you.
Yeah wow definitely a shorter frame honestly that’s MASSIVE. And taller bars of course