Fantastic and insightful review✴! What impressed me the most is your thorough examination of the bike, delving into aspects often overlooked by professional reviewers. You explored how the BMW performs in low traffic urban settings, assessed wind buffeting on the body, and highlighted any vibrations, or the panniers, etc - all of which provide practical, everyday insights for regular people. Additionally, your comparison to the older GS model and its primary competitors gave us valuable context. Keep up the excellent work👍!
3 things I need to correct in my haste to get out this video. 1. The Competition Chart, states cost is 25k, but 19.1k is the base price here in Germany - Standard options, no center stand & speaking of center stand: 2. The Center Stand is missing from my weight savings calculation - which is about 2+ kg. 3. The BMW K1600 does not have inductive charging.
Here in Bulgaria the base price comes around 18.7k euros (36.6k BGN) from the dealer's website. That is with the white color and the base 3 years warranty. No taxes included. It is pretty stripped down tough - I wouldn't ride it without at least some accessories...
I always watch your video's, and your Competition Chart is very informative, but, unfortunately, as I'm dwarf like, I struggle to mount a big bike. So I ask, is there any chance you could include a column on your chart for the standard seat height? Regards
Had the 2021 R1250R Lost it when Van hit me and the bike. Ordered a 2022 1250 GS for coming out of Rehab as a reward for getting through the rehab and to prove there are no inhibitions towards riding . 👍 Served it’s purpose released and sold. Now have the 100 anniversary R 1250R 2023 fully loaded. No regrets 🏍️👍🇨🇦
BMW has raised the level in the class, now everyone must have active cruise control and suspension, blind spot radar, full Integral ABS Pro brakes, electric windscreen, etc. The other competitors can add more technology, but combined with engine power in terms of torque and low center of gravity, it will be more difficult to achieve. I am sold, have placed an order for triple black.😊
Great review. All of my questions are answered. A real rider's review and this is what sets you apart from the generic RUclips reviewers. Thank you, Scott!
I really hope to see the lowering suspension on the RT. My issue always has been that when I have the seat low enough to comfortably flat foot the bike I become to cramped as the seat to peg distance is then too short. Guess I get to wait for the 2025 RT
Nice review! The GS has evolved a lot since the original R 80GS. As far as weight goes, my 2007 R 1200 GS weights standard, from the factory 226kg I have changed the heavy exhaust system to a light weight titanium Mivv system and shaved off another 6kg. My GS is now only 2kg heavier than my R nineT!
Second time watching this great review - enjoying it as a virtual alternative while I wait for my r1300 which arrives in Oz by early Feb hopefully! Great insights and picked up a couple of things the second time. Ive picked up some complaints by some reviewers (who seem to be old GS obsessed) I just sold my 2022 1250 GSA after doing around 30K on it to get the r1300.Your review helped me decide not to wait for the GSA version and go for a lighter bike this time around. Ive ridden the Pan America, KTM and Triumph - the GS was preferred. No bikes available to ride yet in Oz so watching the GS videos will have to keep me going till mine arrives. Thanks for the vids, saw that you bought one yourself. Incidentally I have seen a couple of reviewers complain about the vario panniers failing on the central locking or difficult to get off, be interested in finding out if this is a common thing or early production gremlin.
I dont know how you managed to do that, I mean being probably the first doing an in depth review of this bike before anyone else, but “chapeau” ! And hanks for the amazing job ✌️
Great review, Scott, thanks for this job! I know your taste after years of following you here, so I take your enthusiasm seriously! How the hell do these BMW engineers keep upgrading this bike again and again! Now everything is new and it will be a hit again for sure. Incredible!
Scott Test rode one and found it to be very "BMW" like in the handling department. Very vague and not connected. The quick shifter was very clunky from 2-1. Other than that it's nicer, to me, than the 1250 GS. For me my 2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer kills it in the handling, shifting, acceleration and Fun to ride boxes. New Benchmark? They are now trying to play catch up. Great video as always Sir Ride SAFE and BE safe! 👍👍
Just came back from the dealer. I was surprised that off the side stand the new bike takes noticeable more effort to set upright than the 1250 GSA. At 80kgs the GSA with two hands on the steering bars and a lean-on with my hips, the bike is up effortlessly. On the 1300 GS it also requires a push of the legs. I tried this multiple times alternating, wanting to be wrong. But no, convinced it takes more effort on the new. Don't know what it is. Maybe the cylinders are now higher with the gear box under, and looking to keep the same clearance. In this particular aspect feels more Ducati like, top heavy. A shame. The magic of the weightlessness of the big giant seems to be gone. Which was what made the previous bike incredibly easy to live with; and this comparison is with the GA and old GSA!. Let's see when the GSA 1300 comes out, but my suspicion is that people will not the thrilled.
They may have made the flywheel heavier to help it at lower rpm. Could also have made changes to crank. Back in the day we used to knife edge them so the engine would spin up quicker so more hp but less torque.
I m loving this bike more and more. I m currently riding a 2015 R1200GSA. I wanna see what BMW does with the adventure variant. You review was very clear and helpful. I m now a subscribers. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your honest, kind words. The only reason that I'm "raw & classic" is because I am a "1 man show" and I have the bike for just a short period of time, for this video was just 36 hours. If I had the bikes for longer periods of time I could be less raw. I get bikes from the dealers, not direct from the OEM, I'm hoping that I will get big enough one day to get them directly and keep them for longer periods of time but for now, this is all I can do. Thank you once again for your kind words, Take care, Scott
Dunno. It’s not that the 1300 is a bad looking or badly spec’d unit .. it’s that until now the appeal of the bike was the sense of rugged, go anywhere and do anything utility. The 1300 looks more like a street-oriented ADV. which the big GS arguably always has been, but the outgoing model looked more off-road tough.
The bike is awesome. Thank you for the in deep review of it!👍🏻 Didn’t appreciate that they choose to put a charging usb port instead of and induction surface for the phone and really didn’t understand what they were thinking with the contacts for the side luggage cases!? The lid doesn’t lock because they want you to buy the panniers!? 😅
By far, the most useful review of the new GS; it appears to be another state-of-the-art adventure bike. The only thing left unanswered? Nostalgia aside, is the 2034 eGS really that much better?
To complete the review package, a bit if off roading, isnt that the purpose of these machines? How is it for real riding rather than sitting in and stering? Well made piece.
For everyone who said "it looks horrible" I wanna say that the looks means nothing comparing to the technology this GS offers, & about the front design: you'll get used to it 😉
Thank you for a review, you are really the first in the whole world who made a quality in-depth review we have all been waiting for and you covered everything about it. Good job.👍 This bike is quite a package no doubt about that. The only question is should I wait for 1300 RT or buy this one. If they implement this engine, better front feel, 10kg lighter RT, a little better seat to foot ration, it's gonna be a killer road bike. 30k is a lot of money so it really should tick all the boxes.
I don't get why anyone should buy this while they can just get used-like-new 1250's from all the people who jump on the newest thing just to go pick up a coffee with these beasts 1250 looks better and is 99% as good, what's the point?
@@Galf506 Well somebody has to buy it new, otherwise there would be no used bikes😀 . Imo it really isn't a big difference 20k (used like new 1250) or 30k. If you care for 10k that much then you probably shouldn't buy it for 20k anyway...at least I wouldn't.
Great review. I wasn't initially keen on the looks but its grown on me and besides that it sounds like it is improved in every area. I'll have to wait until some come into second hand market in a couple of years but I'm sure I'll be buying one.
I hate the headlights, and I don't like the fact that the design moved away from a rugged and masculine bmw adventure style to a more sporty ducati-like style.. no thumbs up from me..
This is probably the first GS I've looked at and thought I like the looks of that (that green colour is to die for). Also with the 820 low seat setting and self lowering suspension makes it well with in my short leg comfort zone. The price was a bit of a shocker though in UK I think it will be about £25K+ when you have finished adding the essential options. Will definitely be seeing about a test ride, who knows it might replace my lovely Mandello S.
@@nickzourb190 i have a feeling that the new Stelvio will have the same issue for me as the old Stelvio the seat height is just gonna be to tall with out any major options for seat height reduction.
Great review Scott! (As always). Please test the new navigation unit! I've heard from my local dealer that it is bmw's own product I.e. not Garmin. I'm looking forward to your thoughts on it. 😊
Just trying to understand, off-road and handle-bar mount inductive charger, even though we have a smart phone glove box but you can't put an inductive charger in it. So, we have to mount it on the handle-bar, watch the Fort 9 video on this, they took 4 different main brands off-road. LOL! It's funny...well not for us who want inductive charging and vibration damping. I want a pocket to keep the phone safe & away from the elements and have inductive charging in that pocket. BMW is already doing it on the 1250RT since 2021, so why not their flag-ship bike in 2024? See the point I was trying to make now? Take care, Scott
Great job on this review. And you're probably one of the first online vloggers yet to try this bike - I appreciate your honest opinions about this motorcycle. It's definitely on my wishlist😊. Only gripe is that it reminds me / looks like a CFMOTO 800 MT, but hey I guess the Chinese will always be ahead in this industry from now on.
Hey Scott, great review thanks. I am a Ducatista at heart but this is the first time I am looking at a BMW. I currently ride a 2010 MTS 1200S that I am totally in love with but it is getting long in the tooth. (older italian machinery tends to get chubby and grumpy) I also have a xDiavelS that will always be my mistress (think Sophia Loren...)... words cannot describe the fun and pleasure that bike brings me ... I am now looking at perhaps my last bigbike investment ... I am 63 and do around 30000 km a year in sth Asia (Thailand based). . The Duke v4S caught my eye ... i dont really do serious off road ... and then came the Ducati Pikes Peak ... thought it was the bees knees for me being an ex amateur road racer ... until they announced the enduro .. ticked all the boxes ..... now this bmw1300 has confused me ... its like I have to choose between 2 gorgeous voluptuous women to share the rest of my life with ... the sultry italian or the reliable german. I am still erring on the side of the italian .... to keep me on my toes ... and keep me feeling young ... so I am interested to hear your thoughts given you have spent intimate time with both ... where your thoughts given my situation ...
Excellent review ! Hope BMW puts this engine in an RT. I currently ride a '15 R1200RT, and am ready for a new ride. Thanks for your excellent analysis and doing your homework to give us all this thorough report !
If you want to force hillstart assist/hold then squeeze the front brake a little harder when stopped mate you dont have to wait for it to do it by itself.
Thank you for another nice and helpful review Scott 🙏🏼 How do you like the new headlight design 😊 many people say, GS had an iconic headlight design and BMW should had keep it.
Excellent as always Scott. Looks great in that green with the electric screen. Roll on the R1300 RS (for me - IF they do one)……… so you DO get bad weather in Germany (occasionally !) x
Very nice review! I had not watched your videos in a while and I really like the way you transition from the walk around to on the bike while giving information and reviewing how it feels. Nice job!
Beautiful bike! I have a 2022 R 1250 GS 40th Anniversary with all options all the cases 719 package. Getting a new GS means I start all over again. UGH. My Bike is phenomenal and i love the rugged look. The two main things I like about the new GS. Electric windscreen, better quick shifter, safety features. I’ll have to test ride one to see if I’m blown away. Fantastic Review!!!
I have nothing against you, but My whole experience with a motorcycle it's the attention to the little thing on the road and the vibrations of my engine between my legs and .... Everything!!! Maybe because I am new to this😂
test rode one 3 days ago. was surprised of how nice it rode and that it really didnt feel like a 2c boxer besides when at stand still. the local dealer put it on a bench and it measured 132hp at the rear wheel. but with the dynamic chassie it felt kinda weird cornering. it felt floaty
You had me at spreadsheets! Lol. I do the same thing. At this point I have about 10 years of bikes of all kind and thousands of datapoints. It’s mildly psychotic but I like it. Keep up the good work.
LOL! Yea, agreed. I started doing the spreadsheets a couple years ago so that I have all the numbers of all the competition on one page, just to keep my sanity. 🙄😁
Lucky, lucky guy - that looks like a seriously capable machine, and with the improved engine response, lighter weight and ability to lower the seat at low speeds quite a step from the 1250. Better looking too, imho.
One of the coolest bike reviewers. Always enjoy your videos and I’m not into motorcycles…not yet 😅. The bike looks good especially the new boxes design, the older ones were just Hideous.
Everybody always gets impressed by HP numbers, but folks like Harley Davidson, Cummins Diesel, and other diesel manufacturers fully understand, we are driven and powered by torque. Higher HP numbers only come with higher rpm, which only uses more fuel, and induces more wear. Sounds like BMW figured this out. Torque is what pulls you and holds that speed up hills, riding two up.
Love your spreadsheet! Id like to see torque off idle (how easy is it to let the clutch out) and torque at say 100km/hr (overtaking) for all bikes, independent of rpm. Peak numbers is for salesmen.
That's what ya get if you want everything lighter and faster. Or is it the beginning of "controlled breakage" under the form of maintenance? I wouldn' t be surprised since they prob will let u pay for certain packages with monthly subscription as with other brands... Everything with engine must go in a decade unless you have money so they're gonna try and cash in as much as they possibly can.
Thanks Scott very good review. I changed my 2021 Rt for a 2023 Rt maybe I should have wait the Rt 2024. Question for you ? Quick shifter maybe nice to have but really tell me what is use for what is the real purpose of it ? I have this option on my Rt but changing gears is taking me 1 inch pull on the shifter done in 1 second personally I would like more having the option to go automatic than having a quick shifter which I really don't use much
Great review Scott!! IMO (I love GS's/ had one) this new R13GS will be the "overall" King of the big boy Adventure motorcycle segment!! As for me (different strokes for different folks) this "wonderful" new 1300, with all its great refinements/ improvements, seems to make it easy/ easier to ride/ car-like (hard for me to explain) thus taking away from some of the rawness that lesser spec motorcycles provide. Anyway, this is just my feeling/ personal problem if you will - YMMV. Anyway, if feel BMW will have great success with it!!!!!
Scott your channel is blowing up!! Great review man, I have one for ya../ the old gs had a LOT of road noise coming up the rough the front end , have they cured this ? Thanks Scott
I did not notice that on this bike, now that you mention it. Hmm...it could be that I was so focused on all the new things that the normal every day things don't come into view. take care, Scott P.S. Thank you!
Thanks for the reply Scott , I’m back over to Germany again this summer , Black Forest from the uk so yeah France to, thionville, Kaiserslautern, then a few nights at pension Williams (seebach) then back to epernay and home , ride safe man, the gs looks lovely , not sure if I could part with my v4 multi over it , that bike makes me feel alive man 🙏🏼
From your review it seems BMW has a very drivable motorcycle. As I get older and still want to ride the GS1300 has improved in areas that you pointed out and I understand completely. However they missed by not having CarPlay. I have it on my Africa Twin and it would be difficult to give up.
I just got a 23 1250gsa... love it... I'll wait a few years for the kinks to work out.. and get this out the RT as the sport tourer .. for my continent crusher I'll stick with the 1250 for the next decade
Fantastic and insightful review✴! What impressed me the most is your thorough examination of the bike, delving into aspects often overlooked by professional reviewers. You explored how the BMW performs in low traffic urban settings, assessed wind buffeting on the body, and highlighted any vibrations, or the panniers, etc - all of which provide practical, everyday insights for regular people. Additionally, your comparison to the older GS model and its primary competitors gave us valuable context. Keep up the excellent work👍!
3 things I need to correct in my haste to get out this video. 1. The Competition Chart, states cost is 25k, but 19.1k is the base price here in Germany - Standard options, no center stand & speaking of center stand: 2. The Center Stand is missing from my weight savings calculation - which is about 2+ kg. 3. The BMW K1600 does not have inductive charging.
Here in Bulgaria the base price comes around 18.7k euros (36.6k BGN) from the dealer's website. That is with the white color and the base 3 years warranty. No taxes included. It is pretty stripped down tough - I wouldn't ride it without at least some accessories...
I always watch your video's, and your Competition Chart is very informative, but, unfortunately, as I'm dwarf like, I struggle to mount a big bike. So I ask, is there any chance you could include a column on your chart for the standard seat height? Regards
@@chrishayes4146 I will take that into consideration, thank you.
Had the 2021 R1250R
Lost it when Van hit me and the bike.
Ordered a 2022 1250 GS for coming out of Rehab as a reward for getting through the rehab and to prove there are no inhibitions towards riding . 👍
Served it’s purpose released and sold.
Now have the 100 anniversary R 1250R 2023 fully loaded. No regrets 🏍️👍🇨🇦
Vans are a menace everywhere.
i cried after reading this
You have just given us the most comprehensive and detailed review of this new GS 👍! It just a shame it’s so far out of my price range 🙁.
Probably the best, most unbiased motorcycle reviewers on RUclips. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
BMW has raised the level in the class, now everyone must have active cruise control and suspension, blind spot radar, full Integral ABS Pro brakes, electric windscreen, etc. The other competitors can add more technology, but combined with engine power in terms of torque and low center of gravity, it will be more difficult to achieve. I am sold, have placed an order for triple black.😊
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Test rider for factory to iron out glitches?
2025 model will have changes, I am sure after market feedback. Enjoy the ride.
Great review. All of my questions are answered. A real rider's review and this is what sets you apart from the generic RUclips reviewers. Thank you, Scott!
Much appreciated!
Great review Scott, I’ve already ordered one based on the spec and release videos so am really pleased you’ve found it as good as you have!
same! Triple black, every option except: Akro exhaust, extended suspension travel, wheels.
How much are they selling for? Quoted $31K in Dallas
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Thank you Scott for all efforts and great review..your structure of videos and editing is top notch.
These GS’s are like the Porsche 911. They will never get old
I really hope to see the lowering suspension on the RT. My issue always has been that when I have the seat low enough to comfortably flat foot the bike I become to cramped as the seat to peg distance is then too short. Guess I get to wait for the 2025 RT
Yes ! Well stated. I am only 5'8" and 140 lbs. I struggle with that same issue on my '15 RT.
Nice review!
The GS has evolved a lot since the original R 80GS.
As far as weight goes, my 2007 R 1200 GS weights standard, from the factory 226kg
I have changed the heavy exhaust system to a light weight titanium Mivv system and shaved off another 6kg.
My GS is now only 2kg heavier than my R nineT!
Fit a NOCO battery and it will start up better and you save more kilo's 😉
Second time watching this great review - enjoying it as a virtual alternative while I wait for my r1300 which arrives in Oz by early Feb hopefully! Great insights and picked up a couple of things the second time. Ive picked up some complaints by some reviewers (who seem to be old GS obsessed) I just sold my 2022 1250 GSA after doing around 30K on it to get the r1300.Your review helped me decide not to wait for the GSA version and go for a lighter bike this time around. Ive ridden the Pan America, KTM and Triumph - the GS was preferred. No bikes available to ride yet in Oz so watching the GS videos will have to keep me going till mine arrives. Thanks for the vids, saw that you bought one yourself. Incidentally I have seen a couple of reviewers complain about the vario panniers failing on the central locking or difficult to get off, be interested in finding out if this is a common thing or early production gremlin.
Scott you are the BEST man to show us all of the motorcycles you do. Unbelievably good.
I dont know how you managed to do that, I mean being probably the first doing an in depth review of this bike before anyone else, but “chapeau” ! And hanks for the amazing job ✌️
He lives in Germany. I'm not sure how many of the other reviewers live there .
Great review, Scott, thanks for this job! I know your taste after years of following you here, so I take your enthusiasm seriously! How the hell do these BMW engineers keep upgrading this bike again and again! Now everything is new and it will be a hit again for sure. Incredible!
What do you like more about the RT over the GS? Just the bullet points would be fine unless you want to go into a little detail.
Just as I suspected, the looks of the thing are really growing on me. Beautiful bike.
I really like the Green and Gold color combo..... Looking forward to trying one here in Canada
Scott
Test rode one and found it to be very "BMW" like in the handling department. Very vague and not connected. The quick shifter was very clunky from 2-1. Other than that it's nicer, to me, than the 1250 GS. For me my 2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer kills it in the handling, shifting, acceleration and Fun to ride boxes. New Benchmark? They are now trying to play catch up.
Great video as always Sir
Ride SAFE and BE safe! 👍👍
Interesting watching my normal ride through the countryside passing Wewelsburg to get to paderborn in reverse. Nice vid👍
The ability to make a rough road smooth on road trips can not be understated 😊
Just came back from the dealer. I was surprised that off the side stand the new bike takes noticeable more effort to set upright than the 1250 GSA. At 80kgs the GSA with two hands on the steering bars and a lean-on with my hips, the bike is up effortlessly. On the 1300 GS it also requires a push of the legs. I tried this multiple times alternating, wanting to be wrong. But no, convinced it takes more effort on the new. Don't know what it is. Maybe the cylinders are now higher with the gear box under, and looking to keep the same clearance. In this particular aspect feels more Ducati like, top heavy. A shame. The magic of the weightlessness of the big giant seems to be gone. Which was what made the previous bike incredibly easy to live with; and this comparison is with the GA and old GSA!. Let's see when the GSA 1300 comes out, but my suspicion is that people will not the thrilled.
I had the same reaction after I sat on the bike and set it upright. Not impressed. I will keep my GSA.
BMW should give you a nice check! You just convinced me to trade in my 2022 1250GS ❤
They may have made the flywheel heavier to help it at lower rpm. Could also have made changes to crank. Back in the day we used to knife edge them so the engine would spin up quicker so more hp but less torque.
I think that the VAST majority of GS riders would prefer that lost liter of fuel over a phone compartment (which I assume is where that space went).
I m loving this bike more and more. I m currently riding a 2015 R1200GSA. I wanna see what BMW does with the adventure variant. You review was very clear and helpful. I m now a subscribers. Keep up the good work.
22:23 USB is actually much better than inductive in such close room as the phone heats much less
OMG. I grew up in PB and you drove by my high school as well. Great review of the GS1300 as well!😊
The older i get the more i want a GS. It just does everything right.
Such a raw and classic review style! REally miss these kind nowadays. Thanks for the detailed video.
Thank you for your honest, kind words. The only reason that I'm "raw & classic" is because I am a "1 man show" and I have the bike for just a short period of time, for this video was just 36 hours. If I had the bikes for longer periods of time I could be less raw. I get bikes from the dealers, not direct from the OEM, I'm hoping that I will get big enough one day to get them directly and keep them for longer periods of time but for now, this is all I can do.
Thank you once again for your kind words,
Take care,
Scott
Dunno. It’s not that the 1300 is a bad looking or badly spec’d unit .. it’s that until now the appeal of the bike was the sense of rugged, go anywhere and do anything utility. The 1300 looks more like a street-oriented ADV. which the big GS arguably always has been, but the outgoing model looked more off-road tough.
It's good to see Paderborn after spending a few years there in the forces.
The bike is awesome. Thank you for the in deep review of it!👍🏻
Didn’t appreciate that they choose to put a charging usb port instead of and induction surface for the phone and really didn’t understand what they were thinking with the contacts for the side luggage cases!? The lid doesn’t lock because they want you to buy the panniers!? 😅
Yea, those are 2 points that bother me the most for a bike that starts @ 21k euros. You've got me pegged! 😄👍
Best video by far about the new GS. GREAT 👍
I´m always watching here, from Brazil. Best videos! Tks!
Also from Brazil. Waiting for it to get here. 🇧🇷
By far, the most useful review of the new GS; it appears to be another state-of-the-art adventure bike. The only thing left unanswered? Nostalgia aside, is the 2034 eGS really that much better?
To complete the review package, a bit if off roading, isnt that the purpose of these machines?
How is it for real riding rather than sitting in and stering?
Well made piece.
For everyone who said "it looks horrible" I wanna say that the looks means nothing comparing to the technology this GS offers, & about the front design: you'll get used to it 😉
Thank you for a review, you are really the first in the whole world who made a quality in-depth review we have all been waiting for and you covered everything about it. Good job.👍
This bike is quite a package no doubt about that. The only question is should I wait for 1300 RT or buy this one. If they implement this engine, better front feel, 10kg lighter RT, a little better seat to foot ration, it's gonna be a killer road bike. 30k is a lot of money so it really should tick all the boxes.
I don't get why anyone should buy this while they can just get used-like-new 1250's from all the people who jump on the newest thing just to go pick up a coffee with these beasts
1250 looks better and is 99% as good, what's the point?
@@Galf506 Well somebody has to buy it new, otherwise there would be no used bikes😀 . Imo it really isn't a big difference 20k (used like new 1250) or 30k. If you care for 10k that much then you probably shouldn't buy it for 20k anyway...at least I wouldn't.
that price disparity with the 1250GS is far more than I expected, are they like to like?
Great review. I wasn't initially keen on the looks but its grown on me and besides that it sounds like it is improved in every area. I'll have to wait until some come into second hand market in a couple of years but I'm sure I'll be buying one.
Excellent review answering all possible questions, so thank you Scott.
Technology has come a long way. It is amazing how stable and comfortable this bike is at 100mph!!! It's just incredible!
It’s growing on me a little. But that engine racket, holy crap! I’d go insane
You'll be deaf within a week then sue bmw for earing damage 😢
I hate the headlights, and I don't like the fact that the design moved away from a rugged and masculine bmw adventure style to a more sporty ducati-like style.. no thumbs up from me..
You are too polite...... it looks shite, ugly and cheap looking. And its smaller. No matter how well it goes doesnt cut it for me. Its an abortion
This is probably the first GS I've looked at and thought I like the looks of that (that green colour is to die for). Also with the 820 low seat setting and self lowering suspension makes it well with in my short leg comfort zone. The price was a bit of a shocker though in UK I think it will be about £25K+ when you have finished adding the essential options. Will definitely be seeing about a test ride, who knows it might replace my lovely Mandello S.
23k with a lot of the 'required options' - still mega £££ though
@@nickzourb190 i have a feeling that the new Stelvio will have the same issue for me as the old Stelvio the seat height is just gonna be to tall with out any major options for seat height reduction.
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Good first look at the 1300. It seems BMW took their design cues from the latest Honda NC750X as they look fairly similar. 😊
Great review Scott! (As always). Please test the new navigation unit! I've heard from my local dealer that it is bmw's own product I.e. not Garmin. I'm looking forward to your thoughts on it. 😊
Since it is off-road, it makes sense to keep a charging cable as an that’s an option. Plus you can always add an aftermarket inductive charger.
Just trying to understand, off-road and handle-bar mount inductive charger, even though we have a smart phone glove box but you can't put an inductive charger in it. So, we have to mount it on the handle-bar, watch the Fort 9 video on this, they took 4 different main brands off-road. LOL! It's funny...well not for us who want inductive charging and vibration damping.
I want a pocket to keep the phone safe & away from the elements and have inductive charging in that pocket. BMW is already doing it on the 1250RT since 2021, so why not their flag-ship bike in 2024?
See the point I was trying to make now?
Take care,
Scott
I'm looking forward to riding the R 1300 GS.
Killer review. I love what they've done. I was so looking forward to reviews, you were first up. Nice!!!!
Everything after the beak and the headlight looks decent. The front end is not my thing.
Great job on this review. And you're probably one of the first online vloggers yet to try this bike - I appreciate your honest opinions about this motorcycle. It's definitely on my wishlist😊. Only gripe is that it reminds me / looks like a CFMOTO 800 MT, but hey I guess the Chinese will always be ahead in this industry from now on.
Hey Scott, great review thanks. I am a Ducatista at heart but this is the first time I am looking at a BMW. I currently ride a 2010 MTS 1200S that I am totally in love with but it is getting long in the tooth. (older italian machinery tends to get chubby and grumpy) I also have a xDiavelS that will always be my mistress (think Sophia Loren...)... words cannot describe the fun and pleasure that bike brings me ... I am now looking at perhaps my last bigbike investment ... I am 63 and do around 30000 km a year in sth Asia (Thailand based). . The Duke v4S caught my eye ... i dont really do serious off road ... and then came the Ducati Pikes Peak ... thought it was the bees knees for me being an ex amateur road racer ... until they announced the enduro .. ticked all the boxes ..... now this bmw1300 has confused me ... its like I have to choose between 2 gorgeous voluptuous women to share the rest of my life with ... the sultry italian or the reliable german. I am still erring on the side of the italian .... to keep me on my toes ... and keep me feeling young ... so I am interested to hear your thoughts given you have spent intimate time with both ... where your thoughts given my situation ...
Sir, your channel makes less errors than other you -tubers. Utterly compelling and trusted content.
warmest regards
Wow, thanks! That was really nice of you to express that in words. It means a lot to me and encourages me to keep going.
take care,
Scott
Looks like BMW holds the holy grail of motorcycles.
Thanks for the great video! I have a 1250 now and I'm drooling over the 1300. This video makes me want one even more.
Excellent review ! Hope BMW puts this engine in an RT. I currently ride a '15 R1200RT, and am ready for a new ride. Thanks for your excellent analysis and doing your homework to give us all this thorough report !
If you want to force hillstart assist/hold then squeeze the front brake a little harder when stopped mate you dont have to wait for it to do it by itself.
Thank you for another nice and helpful review Scott 🙏🏼 How do you like the new headlight design 😊 many people say, GS had an iconic headlight design and BMW should had keep it.
Excellent as always Scott. Looks great in that green with the electric screen. Roll on the R1300 RS (for me - IF they do one)……… so you DO get bad weather in Germany (occasionally !) x
Fantastic first review on this bike. Now it's shed weight and is more compact I'm very tempted to take a test ride!
Very nice review! I had not watched your videos in a while and I really like the way you transition from the walk around to on the bike while giving information and reviewing how it feels.
Nice job!
Thank you very much!
Beautiful bike! I have a 2022 R 1250 GS 40th Anniversary with all options all the cases 719 package. Getting a new GS means I start all over again. UGH. My Bike is phenomenal and i love the rugged look. The two main things I like about the new GS. Electric windscreen, better quick shifter, safety features. I’ll have to test ride one to see if I’m blown away. Fantastic Review!!!
I have nothing against you, but
My whole experience with a motorcycle it's the attention to the little thing on the road and the vibrations of my engine between my legs and .... Everything!!!
Maybe because I am new to this😂
Let’s wait for the ADV series.
It’s amazing !!
Can’t wait until the release GS1800 in 2030…!
Certainly got ahead of the pack with these reviews , good to see an honest review of a new bike 👍
Thanks! 👍
test rode one 3 days ago. was surprised of how nice it rode and that it really didnt feel like a 2c boxer besides when at stand still. the local dealer put it on a bench and it measured 132hp at the rear wheel. but with the dynamic chassie it felt kinda weird cornering. it felt floaty
Wow!…the best evaluation of GS 1300 I have seen so far!…thank you very much!!…and congrats!!
Thanks a lot!
Would love to see a head-to-head with a MultiStrada Rally. I think there are quite a few improvements over the plain V4
You had me at spreadsheets! Lol. I do the same thing. At this point I have about 10 years of bikes of all kind and thousands of datapoints. It’s mildly psychotic but I like it. Keep up the good work.
LOL! Yea, agreed.
I started doing the spreadsheets a couple years ago so that I have all the numbers of all the competition on one page, just to keep my sanity. 🙄😁
very2 compre review with detailed infos R1300GS thanks riderScott 👍👍👍godblessed !!! More vlogs #nothingtoprove
Lucky, lucky guy - that looks like a seriously capable machine, and with the improved engine response, lighter weight and ability to lower the seat at low speeds quite a step from the 1250. Better looking too, imho.
Love that paint work! In the US that section of the autobahn would have a 55mph speed limit ☹️
As a 3 time owner of GSA's the new design language doesn't work for me. Great video.
Great video, id love to see the difference in models from colour spec to TE to accessories, good work mate
Great as always! Blindspot warning really works? I'm afraid to take it to test run, and comparing to my R1250GSA 🫣
One of the coolest bike reviewers. Always enjoy your videos and I’m not into motorcycles…not yet 😅.
The bike looks good especially the new boxes design, the older ones were just Hideous.
First proper review of this bike 👍🏻
The GS has always been a great bike and now it is actually good looking!
Great review. Love your comparison list. Keep doing so. I can't wait for the launch of the new R 1300 RS. Greetings from Europe BE.
No GSA?
Everybody always gets impressed by HP numbers, but folks like Harley Davidson, Cummins Diesel, and other diesel manufacturers fully understand, we are driven and powered by torque. Higher HP numbers only come with higher rpm, which only uses more fuel, and induces more wear. Sounds like BMW figured this out. Torque is what pulls you and holds that speed up hills, riding two up.
Great review! Super tolle Vorstellung von dem neuen Motorrad.
Love your spreadsheet! Id like to see torque off idle (how easy is it to let the clutch out) and torque at say 100km/hr (overtaking) for all bikes, independent of rpm. Peak numbers is for salesmen.
Apparently the shaft drive will need to be replaced every 80,000 km as a part of regular maintenance... 40+ years of GS development and here we are...
That's what ya get if you want everything lighter and faster. Or is it the beginning of "controlled breakage" under the form of maintenance? I wouldn' t be surprised since they prob will let u pay for certain packages with monthly subscription as with other brands... Everything with engine must go in a decade unless you have money so they're gonna try and cash in as much as they possibly can.
Bullshit….
check the service book for 1300 GS before you say anything. @@fragu123
@@fragu123 Shush you
Thanks Scott very good review. I changed my 2021 Rt for a 2023 Rt maybe I should have wait the Rt 2024.
Question for you ? Quick shifter maybe nice to have but really tell me what is use for what is the real purpose of it ?
I have this option on my Rt but changing gears is taking me 1 inch pull on the shifter done in 1 second personally I would like more having the option to go automatic than having a quick shifter which I really don't use much
This looks like a bike and not like some fallen scaffolding. Nice review!
Cheers!
Great review Scott!! IMO (I love GS's/ had one) this new R13GS will be the "overall" King of the big boy Adventure motorcycle segment!! As for me (different strokes for different folks) this "wonderful" new 1300, with all its great refinements/ improvements, seems to make it easy/ easier to ride/ car-like (hard for me to explain) thus taking away from some of the rawness that lesser spec motorcycles provide. Anyway, this is just my feeling/ personal problem if you will - YMMV. Anyway, if feel BMW will have great success with it!!!!!
Scott your channel is blowing up!! Great review man, I have one for ya../ the old gs had a LOT of road noise coming up the rough the front end , have they cured this ? Thanks Scott
I did not notice that on this bike, now that you mention it. Hmm...it could be that I was so focused on all the new things that the normal every day things don't come into view.
take care,
Scott
P.S. Thank you!
Thanks for the reply Scott , I’m back over to Germany again this summer , Black Forest from the uk so yeah France to, thionville, Kaiserslautern, then a few nights at pension Williams (seebach) then back to epernay and home , ride safe man, the gs looks lovely , not sure if I could part with my v4 multi over it , that bike makes me feel alive man 🙏🏼
Glad you got this new bike for review. Any hints on this engine being the platform for the next generation RT?
From your review it seems BMW has a very drivable motorcycle. As I get older and still want to ride the GS1300 has improved in areas that you pointed out and I understand completely. However they missed by not having CarPlay. I have it on my Africa Twin and it would be difficult to give up.
Agreed, Lack of Android Auto/Carplay is a real shame
Very good review! Great attention to detail and you did a great job breaking down the changes.
Best review yet. Dudes living our best life. 😢
Great review. Can you also do a review of just the blind spot warning and the front approach speed warning system as well??
I think it became smaller for the pillion and the 1250 GSA is better in that concern, right?
I just got a 23 1250gsa... love it... I'll wait a few years for the kinks to work out.. and get this out the RT as the sport tourer .. for my continent crusher I'll stick with the 1250 for the next decade
790 on an adventure bike is such a breakthrough, love the attention companies are starting to give to shorter riders
I like the name & the mantra of this channel -👍🏾