FULL TESTIMONY: Zulema Pastenes testifies in Chad Daybell trial

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  • Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
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    Zulema Pastenes, Alex Cox's widow and friend of Lori and Chad Daybell, testifies in Chad Daybell's murder trial. Here is her complete testimony from May 7, 2024.
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Комментарии • 388

  • @melstiller8561
    @melstiller8561 29 дней назад +108

    That anyone with more than one brain cell would believe any of this bunk will never cease to amaze me.

    • @rrksk
      @rrksk 29 дней назад +7

      Yeah but people with more than one braincell did not

    • @theresaloncar2539
      @theresaloncar2539 29 дней назад +21

      It sounds a lot like Sceintology and look at the big entertainment fools that are in that crap. Sorry I am just sticking with Jesus pure and simple! 😊

    • @toribern816
      @toribern816 29 дней назад +11

      Same. And what’s scary is they’re out there, many of them, that still believe this same shit 🤯

    • @KrisCorby-iv8dg
      @KrisCorby-iv8dg 29 дней назад +2

      Pure & simple!!..😆😂😆

    • @briarrose29
      @briarrose29 29 дней назад

      It’s a multi-level system that Chad gamed. He set things up to happen that made himself look believable to these desperate women. The women all seemed to have a history of prior bad marriages and possible abuse. Getting a divorce in their church likely made them be seen as “bad” women. Here comes Chad to tell them “no you’re actually an honored spirit with special powers”. Then he set them up to believe it was true. It wasn’t hard because these women WANTED to believe it!
      Add to that, the religion also teaches the glorification of men.
      So many believe the Joseph Smith drivel because their fleshly desire and egos wanted to. Men in that church believe they’re going to heaven and will have their own kingdom of spirits to worship them which will include their wives and children. 🙄. It’s an egomaniac’s dream and they start wanting that on earth. The women ate it up because they are no better at wanting to be special on earth.
      The kicker for me is that they all say they believe in Jesus, but have zero humility. 🙄

  • @cherokeegirl47
    @cherokeegirl47 18 дней назад +15

    So, anyone who disagreed or tried to question Chad regarding any of his teachings were declared to be dark. WHAT AN EGOMANIAC! He’s a sadist! Evil in its original form.

  • @rhondawhisenant1683
    @rhondawhisenant1683 29 дней назад +85

    I think she told the truth today! Chad is toast

    • @annettelacey7913
      @annettelacey7913 29 дней назад +18

      Yes, This alone will sink him,She done great on the stand & I think she told the truth,

    • @mariamaria2751
      @mariamaria2751 29 дней назад +15

      She knows about Alex

    • @melstiller8561
      @melstiller8561 29 дней назад +12

      @@annettelacey7913 --
      Zulema's immunity agreement with the prosecution is conditional to her telling the truth. Should she commit perjury (or lie) on the stand, the agreement is revoked, which would make her eligible to be charged for not coming forward to the authorities with what she had seen, participated in, or experienced.

    • @melstiller8561
      @melstiller8561 29 дней назад +13

      @@mariamaria2751 --
      What happened to Alex Cox (the guy who Zulema's own son didn't know was married to his mother) and how he died will always be a gnawing mystery to me. I have my own theories and suspicions; but that's all they are.

    • @dontask4990
      @dontask4990 29 дней назад +15

      Yes, she is trustful. She said the same thing in Lori's trial. I know they are people who don't like her. But we must keep the focus on the fact that she has never changed her testimony.

  • @susy590
    @susy590 25 дней назад +25

    Zulema and Melanie Gibb and Melanie Pawlowski heard enough about Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ's 'dying soon' from Chad Daybell 's 'visions', that if they were sane, responsible human beings, they would have done something.

    • @louesparza8003
      @louesparza8003 19 дней назад +5

      Zulema was gullible. She kept asking where Tylee and JJ were. Lori would give different answers, i.e., she said JJ was with Kay.

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD 18 дней назад +3

      They should be all be convicted!! I'm guessing the deal was they testify against Chad and Lori instead.

    • @MaggieMay757
      @MaggieMay757 15 часов назад

      All guilty as sin IMO.

  • @elizabethschweickart5545
    @elizabethschweickart5545 29 дней назад +27

    Chad and Lori are such losers. They were living off of everbody else.

  • @georgemonde8237
    @georgemonde8237 29 дней назад +86

    Chad was a hairs breath away from telling them hes God

    • @Kristenm28
      @Kristenm28 29 дней назад +25

      The LDS religion tells all men they will be gods of their own planet.

    • @kellypantin7423
      @kellypantin7423 29 дней назад +8

      I'm sure if he told them he was Jesus Christ in the flesh they all would have said okay.

    • @breAnnasmama
      @breAnnasmama 28 дней назад +16

      He told them in a past life he was the Holy Ghost

    • @chasity71mvp19
      @chasity71mvp19 27 дней назад +7

      Ikr. I couldn't help but to roll my eyes and scoff when she said he told them he was once the Holy Ghost 😳😒 🤦‍♀️
      Sounds like to me he was on shrooms 😂 I just don't understand how these ppl kept a straight face when being told bs like this.. seriously, he must be VERY convincing or they are VERY naive? Idk but when someone is talking and teaching things that u have nvr heard bfor, you'd think they would at least have doubt about his sanity.. I'm just sayin' .. all this shyt is off the wall crazy

    • @louniece1650
      @louniece1650 21 день назад +1

      ​@@Kristenm28I'm not sure that it is okay for you to be telling things. You're not wrong but.....🤫

  • @stephanieallangarman5598
    @stephanieallangarman5598 29 дней назад +44

    The two OCCULT LOVERS were both guilty of slaughtering those two children. CHAD ordered everyone around with his “BLESSINGS” ughh 😬. ZULEMA gave an incredible damming testimony of CHAD’S Actions. Wow 🤯 ALEX informed her that he had nothing to do with TAMMY. So, ALEX vocalized he knew he was the FALL GUY.

    • @Truth17John17
      @Truth17John17 29 дней назад

      You are absolutely right that they are part of the occult -- pure evil -- both of them parading around as if holier-than-thou while cavorting with demons and casting spells..... Chad and Lori probably both believe to this day that they are "exalted beings".

    • @valentinat3250
      @valentinat3250 27 дней назад +8

      Is anyone else over Zulema’s gullible baby voice?

    • @RachelDoesntknow
      @RachelDoesntknow 26 дней назад +1

      Uhh okay?

    • @Truth17John17
      @Truth17John17 26 дней назад +7

      You are absolutely right -- calling themselves followers of Christ, when they are in fact, followers of the occult.

    • @xxx-not666
      @xxx-not666 17 дней назад

      @@valentinat3250 It is pretend. She's a witch.

  • @17Bobby
    @17Bobby 27 дней назад +18

    Who can believe this kind of nonsense?? Lori and Chad wrote their own Monopoly rules 😆

    • @tigerlancer
      @tigerlancer 18 дней назад +2

      Scriptures, kjv, lds, franke and hildebrandt were working on version 4.0, chad and lori working on 5.0. They won't be the last.

    • @Creative-Chaos
      @Creative-Chaos 16 дней назад

      Who can believe this nonsense? Same type of people who would vote for the orange turd.

    • @VanessaMallia
      @VanessaMallia 7 дней назад

      😊

    • @SharonBrown-yn6fz
      @SharonBrown-yn6fz 2 дня назад

      Best to stay away from all churches in my opinion I was forced to go to a Pentecostal church speaking in tongues , saving the dying and healing the sick kind of church. I felt so scared. Felt it was witchcraft. Course I was kicked out of the church why ? Because as hard as they tried I wanted proof for EVERYTHING. I DIDNT Believe ONE THING. AND since they had no proof I had to be kicked out, I was a distraction for the others being sucked into the crap.
      And when someone just nods yes yes yes and never questions anything you get so sucked into anything. Scientology is just like a lot of cults.

  • @tonics7121
    @tonics7121 29 дней назад +38

    They're all in it up to their eyebrows. Period. Full stop.

  • @georgemonde8237
    @georgemonde8237 29 дней назад +46

    Wow this is some next level sci fi channel shit

    • @MindsetSpeakers
      @MindsetSpeakers 29 дней назад +1

      My exact thoughts

    • @KrisCorby-iv8dg
      @KrisCorby-iv8dg 29 дней назад

      👍😆

    • @chasingamurderer
      @chasingamurderer 29 дней назад

      🤣

    • @kellypantin7423
      @kellypantin7423 29 дней назад +5

      Omg that is the dang truth. I'm listening to this nonsense and thinking am I in a movie or something because this is the craziest bunch of nonsense I think I have ever heard.

    • @ishbelharris1857
      @ishbelharris1857 27 дней назад +5

      Scientology meets Dungeons and Dragons on top of the Masons for the crummy base layer.

  • @danishpastries3941
    @danishpastries3941 28 дней назад +12

    It makes me so mad that we have to pay for this ordeal and to see Chad sitting there without any remorse. He knows he is guilty. We know he is guilty! Just admit it!!

  • @ALLGIRL62
    @ALLGIRL62 29 дней назад +21

    Zulema's recollections are so detailed! Really disputes the defense's contention that Chad was not the ringleader. He was pulling the strings from the start. He found a kindred spirit in Lori, her henchmen Al, and her sheep. Lori is suspect in her dealings with Joe, too. Were those accusations ever proven? and where is Joe now... hmmm

    • @Jinxs-Journey
      @Jinxs-Journey 29 дней назад +5

      How died of aparent heart attack I believe. Alex wanted to get into confrontation with him so he could kill him and claim self defence like he did with Charles that was told by the ex wife in a interview

    • @transistic
      @transistic 28 дней назад +3

      He’s dead.

  • @kawehionalani3957
    @kawehionalani3957 29 дней назад +51

    Zulema sang like a bird. She sounds like she’s telling all the truth. Almost like she saved this from Lori’s trial. This testimony is damming for Chad.

    • @birtajonsdottir9910
      @birtajonsdottir9910 28 дней назад +6

      I agree she sang like a bird but she definitely didn't tell the whole truth. There's just not a chance that the first time her and Alex ever discussed these things, between the two of them, was the day before he died 🤔 Just imo tho...

    • @susiepummill9391
      @susiepummill9391 28 дней назад +4

      @@birtajonsdottir9910Realistically, for s normal thinker, I would agree. But, these delusional people were following Chad, marrying at his command, not exactly deep thinkers. Look at how the “blessings”’impacted Alex. He may well have take his own life (Alex) from the horrific thought he was wrong about it all.

    • @birtajonsdottir9910
      @birtajonsdottir9910 27 дней назад +4

      @@susiepummill9391 Quite on the contrary, I think these delulu's spent an enormous amount of time thinking and talking about darkness, light, and zombies in their quest to "save the world."
      All of them appear to have the same understanding of the urgent necessity of casting to "assist" these poor wandering lost bodies to get rid of their demons, so their bodies could "peacefully" pass on.
      You think, that with all of the mental gymnastics it took for them to distance themselves from the fact that they were aiding in or causing these deaths/murders, of real human beings, somehow, they just missed the connection that someone in their group might in fact be killing people? 🤔 I don't know about that...
      Oh and Alex, to be fair, I don't think he did much of the thinking but then again he had brain damage from a car accident. The perfect candidate for both a hitman and fall guy.

    • @jessyvalentine7492
      @jessyvalentine7492 27 дней назад +6

      ​@@susiepummill9391Alex was brain damaged, literally, i think his impulse control and overall critical thinking was absent. He was inappropriately attached to his sister and they took sick advantage of him.

  • @suziedebolt6619
    @suziedebolt6619 28 дней назад +16

    Chad made it up as he went.

    • @xxx-not666
      @xxx-not666 17 дней назад

      Nah, he wrote a ton of books, satanism has its sects too

  • @Pearlstrand
    @Pearlstrand 19 дней назад +9

    Not an expert but I think Lori and Chad are 100% dark. 🤔

  • @cynthiagibson6793
    @cynthiagibson6793 29 дней назад +38

    Poor Charles !!

    • @KrisCorby-iv8dg
      @KrisCorby-iv8dg 29 дней назад +2

      Yes! That's what I've thought all along. Really since I saw that video of him, chatting w the copper about being unable to contact his kids...

  • @robingurule30
    @robingurule30 29 дней назад +22

    Zulema needs to be arrested along with both Melanie's. They are so dumb and new that things were so wrong and went along with it anyway.

    • @gpfamilyvlogs3965
      @gpfamilyvlogs3965 25 дней назад +7

      I agree she actually disgusts me to my core she just turned a blind eye Lori almost told her in not so many words tylee was gone yet she knew all this and did nothing

    • @louniece1650
      @louniece1650 22 дня назад +4

      ​@gpfamilyvlogs3965 no one would have believed her. Just like no one believed Charles.

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD 18 дней назад +1

      ​@@gpfamilyvlogs3965exactly!! Come on... it was blatantly obvious that Tylee was in trouble or dead!! I would've run to the cops soooo fast 🏃🏻‍♀️

    • @anitahagerman4697
      @anitahagerman4697 10 дней назад

      Brainwashing?

    • @sheilafieldhouse.1627
      @sheilafieldhouse.1627 8 дней назад

  • @annettelacey7913
    @annettelacey7913 29 дней назад +43

    Chads kids are going look really dumb when they get up on the stand & say chad was set up by the police alex & lori, no chad wouldnt of buried the kids like that cause he is a grave digger, no he never seen a fire burning for hours in his yard, You could see the grave sights from his house,Cant wait to see emma get caught out lieing on the stand, i so much hope that happens,She is just like daddy, she was rateing the kids in her class dark or light,How the hell is she teaching kids,smh

    • @SHAWNEESKYWALKER
      @SHAWNEESKYWALKER 29 дней назад +9

      She's probably rating them so they can use them as sacrifices later.

    • @godzilla36812
      @godzilla36812 29 дней назад +6

      Those kids should be also expelled from the church an less they renounce Chad and stop defending the undefendable.Btw how did Lori frame Chad when she never ever said anything to compromise him.
      To be fair they were loyal even to Alex post mortem

    • @StephanieBeitzel
      @StephanieBeitzel 28 дней назад +1

      Agree. Unless they can produce the 5 year old remains of a RACOON with a fatal gunshot…

    • @zombiejerry3105
      @zombiejerry3105 24 дня назад

      ​@tankiebynight2479 who cares about the church. They should all be in prison. They are not children, but grown adults who are part of the cult.

    • @kayrelynturner5039
      @kayrelynturner5039 10 дней назад +2

      Your Prophecy came true

  • @madisong5276
    @madisong5276 28 дней назад +18

    CHAD your occupied by a demon

  • @Aussietari
    @Aussietari 29 дней назад +32

    I think John Prior's constant
    "Show🎪Boating" Tactics are now wearing pretty Thin with everone, in the Court Room.😌

    • @susy590
      @susy590 25 дней назад +1

      He is not 'show-boating'. He is representing his client to the best of his ability, knowing that his client is guilty of some pretty horrific crimes. It would be best to remember that in the United States, a defendant is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. As ridiculous as that sounds with all the evidence known to the public, if Chad Daybell did not have legal representation, he could possibly go free.

    • @jemma6596
      @jemma6596 18 дней назад +1

      And on RUclips!!
      There's another thing he's doing - he's making his client look bad! His condescending attitude toward women is extremely apparent! He apparently doesn't recall that his client believes all this stuff too, and his client was ringleader of this group! So, I don't know why he's acting like these witnesses are crazy or bad, his client is their leader!!

  • @pphelan55
    @pphelan55 28 дней назад +23

    It sounds like a cult to me.

  • @juliebean2806
    @juliebean2806 23 дня назад +11

    Chad Daybell really thought he was something special. I mean did he believe all this crap or was he just manipulating all these simps

  • @jooonie1108
    @jooonie1108 27 дней назад +12

    Listening to Zulema is just mind boggling. How do these people believe this crap so willingly. I watch with headphones on & continuously tell my husband they’re all nuts

    • @jooonie1108
      @jooonie1108 27 дней назад +2

      Like seriously not right in the head. The crazies all find each other too 😮

    • @kimsmith5083
      @kimsmith5083 12 дней назад

      I do the same thing lol. He always thinks I’m talking to him. I’m re listening to her testimony. Unbelievable they believed this sh..

  • @AndiMarie
    @AndiMarie 29 дней назад +13

    Excellent witness. Truth was told.

  • @leahhanderson3737
    @leahhanderson3737 13 дней назад +5

    Zulema's testimony is brilliant. She seemed honest and open. Even when she gave Prior the answers he seemed to want, she clarified enough to tear down his flimsy assumptions.

    • @louesparza8003
      @louesparza8003 11 дней назад +3

      Yes. Her testimony is one of the most valuable for pointing to the ultimate source of all that has happened.

  • @CaroLinek88
    @CaroLinek88 29 дней назад +36

    The details of this case make me feel like I have to throw up.

  • @kellypantin7423
    @kellypantin7423 29 дней назад +14

    Any of these people that got blessings from Chad might want to bathe themselves for hours in Holy Water and remove that evil that he put on them. Just saying

  • @paraskevipardalis9774
    @paraskevipardalis9774 29 дней назад +46

    Wow ...there are ppl like that in this world...believe crap that ppl tell them ...sad

    • @windywednesday4166
      @windywednesday4166 29 дней назад

      Yes, from what I've heard this little crew is the tip of the iceberg on a rather large movement. They con ppl with their 'insights' then sell them goods to prepare for the future they predict. SMH.

    • @nickinurse6433
      @nickinurse6433 29 дней назад

      33% of voters in the United States do the exact same thing with Trump that these people did with Chad. They just believe everything he tells them even though it's all not true.

    • @georgemonde8237
      @georgemonde8237 29 дней назад +7

      Religious people are easily fooled

    • @joannewilkins5000
      @joannewilkins5000 29 дней назад +6

      It’s ego

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 29 дней назад +1

      Many more than you know.
      Be well and be at peace.

  • @adoral.libertucci2647
    @adoral.libertucci2647 29 дней назад +11

    Geez. John is revealing just how far Zulema would go to secure the approval of Chad and Lori.

  • @gabitrindade4607
    @gabitrindade4607 18 дней назад +6

    I find so annoying that they used the name of Jesus in this satanic cult…this has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with our Lord.

  • @BauchNessMonster
    @BauchNessMonster 29 дней назад +60

    I just want to know why Zulema and the Melanie’s haven’t been arrested as accomplices ? Did they cut deals???

    • @HDWorldclass
      @HDWorldclass 29 дней назад +18

      yes immunity

    • @iffyangel3380
      @iffyangel3380 29 дней назад +20

      We only know Zulema has been granted immunity at this time. Melanie Gibb and Melani Polowski have not said and neither have the prosecutors.

    • @user-pt1cz4ot1e
      @user-pt1cz4ot1e 29 дней назад

      @@HDWorldclassthat’s so disgusting. All these people should never be around society again.

    • @mariap3911
      @mariap3911 29 дней назад +26

      They should be in prison for accessory to multiple murders!!!

    • @MaggieMay757
      @MaggieMay757 29 дней назад +13

      You bet they did

  • @lovenothate2023
    @lovenothate2023 26 дней назад +9

    Wow! I listened to this entire testimony of Zulema and I'd say Chad Daybell is not only guilty but he's a narcissistic nutcase! I can't imagine how anyone could have fallen for his bizarre claims! Lori is just as bad, claiming to be in conversation with Angels before she met Chad.. I'm sure she was.. fallen/evil angels! Seriously cannot ever believe I'd fall for this nonsense, so not Biblical, so evil, evil, evil.

  • @sagelovestodrum
    @sagelovestodrum 28 дней назад +10

    So ODD how people like Chad can just be trusted to know what happened during Jesus time. It blows my mind the level of pathology involved in all those deaths, and they thought they would just waltz through as leaders of that however many thousand "chosen ones" would be allowed to live, out of all the others on this earth. Plus...these doomsday dates come and go without coming true...wow

    • @Julia-uh4li
      @Julia-uh4li 28 дней назад +1

      (Pre comment edit.~ It's 144,000 Mormons who will be personally picked by God, allegedly)
      There are hundreds of active cults in the US today. Many of the leaders claim they were once Jesus, too.
      The "Church" of Scientology is another whacky one who believes they are trillions of years old beings from another galaxy (Farsec, or something).
      The crazy guy who started that one, L Ron Hubbard, when he died in 1986, or as they call it, 'dropped his body' has gone on to Target 2 to clear that planet. He's waiting for all the cult members here on Earth to clear this planet before they can drop their bodies & join him. It's all so flipping whacky! It makes me laugh knowing Tom Cruise believes all this crap, as he's best friends with David Miscavige, who runs the cult. He's called Little Davey of the Fake Space Navy by an awful lot of ex-members.

  • @Peaceshiet812
    @Peaceshiet812 29 дней назад +13

    Can’t believe all these chumps believed this absolute garbage 😂

  • @georgemonde8237
    @georgemonde8237 29 дней назад +31

    Wonder what alex took to kill himself?

    • @PatDe-zj4et
      @PatDe-zj4et 29 дней назад +2

      He died from blood clots. It happens. He was stressed out

    • @dz7a756
      @dz7a756 29 дней назад

      Are you sure he killed himself? Just because hus death was ruled 'natural causes' doesn't mean it is.
      Be well and be at peace.

    • @user-ce8tr1ex2m
      @user-ce8tr1ex2m 29 дней назад +8

      Supposedly something he brought from abroad

    • @SaraBoBara5591
      @SaraBoBara5591 29 дней назад +16

      I’m willing to bet that you can also cause a blood clot with certain medications

    • @kellypantin7423
      @kellypantin7423 29 дней назад +7

      I feel like Alex was so stressed because he realized he had been fooled by his sister and Chad and he knew that they were exhuming Tammy's body and the truth about her death would be revealed. That's just my feelings on it. I do also feel like God was going to make sure he didn't kill another person again because even though Alex believed their BS....God knew what they were doing and made sure Alex could no longer fall for their crap. Even as I say this there is still this part of me that thinks they somehow did something to Alex. What are the chances he would suddenly drop dead. IDK...so many different feelings and emotions with this case and these people. Learning new things with each witness makes my mind start spinning.

  • @georgemonde8237
    @georgemonde8237 29 дней назад +47

    Whats with mormons marrying people after knowing them for 2 days??

    • @godzilla36812
      @godzilla36812 29 дней назад

      Because they are not allowed to have sex prior to marriage,but they can freely get married 20 times in their life time.
      That is the most stupid American customized version of Christianity.
      Soo mirrors the American nation.And it defies the basic principles of Christianity by passing someone worthy or not where Christianity is all about everyone is equal

    • @user-ce8tr1ex2m
      @user-ce8tr1ex2m 29 дней назад +10

      They can’t have sex outside of marriage. Adultery, masturbation, etc are sins next to the murder in their hierarchy of sins

    • @KrisCorby-iv8dg
      @KrisCorby-iv8dg 29 дней назад +9

      I guess critical thinking is pretty much out of the question too then eh!..😆..especially if you're female!..💁🏻‍♀️

    • @kellypantin7423
      @kellypantin7423 29 дней назад +2

      I have wondered the exact same thing

    • @SaraBoBara5591
      @SaraBoBara5591 29 дней назад

      The women need to be married to get into heaven

  • @karenkruger3690
    @karenkruger3690 29 дней назад +17

    Zulema was given immunity

    • @Julia-uh4li
      @Julia-uh4li 28 дней назад +2

      I don't understand why she would have needed it from everything that has come out so far. I still have just over an hour until I finish this. Maybe something will come up before then.

    • @natewilson111
      @natewilson111 26 дней назад +3

      ​@@Julia-uh4li If I recall, it was fishy how Alex died. I think Zulema was in the house when it happened(?), and it seems she knew waaay more about what Alex was up to in regard to Lori's directives. 🤷

    • @louesparza8003
      @louesparza8003 19 дней назад +2

      Zulema was at work when Alex collapsed.

    • @karenkruger3690
      @karenkruger3690 5 дней назад

      I wonder if the cops or FBI offered Zulema immunity in exchange for her notebook of Chad's teachings. Would the court case have had the same impact without the notes? She knew what Alex did too, and probably told the authorities as she had nothing to lose at that point. Alex's death was not as normal as it seemed. Fry the big fish or let them all get away 🤷🏻‍♀️. The cops, FBI, prosecution and even the Private Investigators did all they could to get what they could use and prove 😔

  • @sideforum
    @sideforum 28 дней назад +10

    Why did the Melanie’s lie about the 7 gatherers?

    • @Julia-uh4li
      @Julia-uh4li 28 дней назад

      I'm so behind with this trial. Would you be so kind as to please tell me if you are referring to the Melanie's testimony during this trial, or was it during Lori's? If you or someone can answer that, I will go back through all the previous days to watch that. I'm in the UK, and because of the timezone differences, 8 hours, I believe, I'm not able to watch live, so I've gotten myself behind a bunch.
      Thank you!

    • @ishbelharris1857
      @ishbelharris1857 27 дней назад +6

      @@Julia-uh4li Both Melanies denied knowledge of the Seven Gatherers during this trial when they were on the stand. Prior seems to be obsessed with the Seven Gatherers, as if it was all the evil women's fault leading poor innocent Chad astray. Zulema is the first one of the acolytes to acknowledge the Seven Gatherers, although it appears to be just a group email address that the casting women used to share bonkers religious stuff, including both Melanies.
      I'm in the UK too, and the time difference is a pain. I'm so grateful that Nate has arranged to have the witness testimonies clipped out of the live feed - saves time hanging about while they go through sidebars and breaks.

    • @Michelle_Mack
      @Michelle_Mack 25 дней назад +3

      I don’t think it was an “organization” it was just a Google email address that was shared. The defense is throwing out whatever he can, hoping it’ll stick - but he’s not helping his client, he’s just making himself look bad- in my opinion.

    • @louesparza8003
      @louesparza8003 19 дней назад +2

      Who can remember every e-mail they have used over many years?
      Especially one that someone else set up.
      Zulema remembered, but apparently the Melanies either didn't remember or didn't send anything using that e-mail.

  • @texajersey5569
    @texajersey5569 28 дней назад +10

    Sounds like she had a chance to save some lives

  • @bellablu3777
    @bellablu3777 29 дней назад +10

    Chud is going down, he should have taken a plea deal 🤡 Pretty sure he will appeal on grounds of ineffective council once this is over.

  • @gpfamilyvlogs3965
    @gpfamilyvlogs3965 25 дней назад +6

    The woman has those kids blood on her hands

  • @einannashekinah
    @einannashekinah 29 дней назад +9

    Nate, I'm coughing just like you. I'm chalking it up for allergies. Trees are blooming and sprinkling pollen everywhere. 😜

  • @us4damons
    @us4damons 29 дней назад +15

    I cannot fathom people falling for this crap. I spent a very large part of my life in a Pentecostal church. It was enjoyable, it was sensible, it was respectful , spiritual and comforting. I loved and respected and listened to my pastor and I cannot imagine hearing him saying anything of what comes out of chads mouth. If I would have heard even anything like that, I would have left the church immediately and said oh my gosh what a wackadoo. And it doesn't appear that these people are all dumb, I mean they seem like sensible people some of them even educated. I don't understand what makes someone fall for this insanity. The same type of people who fall for those scams that if you send them money to get them out of foreign prison they'll double it up when they get back. I mean it's just no sense to me

    • @kellypantin7423
      @kellypantin7423 29 дней назад +2

      Agreed

    • @user-ce8tr1ex2m
      @user-ce8tr1ex2m 29 дней назад +4

      Pentecostal church? Is it where people roll on the floor & make weird noises aka speak in tongues because they believe the Holy Sporit is talking through them? Very sensible & not wackadoo at all.

    • @AriesRising4444
      @AriesRising4444 28 дней назад +6

      My grandmother was raised Pentacostal. I would never call it sensible.

    • @Julia-uh4li
      @Julia-uh4li 28 дней назад

      And then you have the "church" of Scientology who has the religious tax exemption and is more akin to a multi-level marketing organisation. They really pound into everyone extreme mind control, HARD. Those poor members are controlled intensely. It's all about selling courses and 'moving up the bridge to total freedom' when it robs everyone in it Of Their Freedoms. They're also known to destroy families. Man, cults are horrendous. I wish people wouldn't fall for these things.

    • @hollieanderson-rambo17
      @hollieanderson-rambo17 28 дней назад +3

      No disrespect at all but being Pentecostal is very strange to some people who are on the outside looking in. The more people that followed Chad and Lori the more seemingly normal the beliefs became.

  • @lilredrobyn44
    @lilredrobyn44 29 дней назад +41

    Zulema is insane and needs serious mental help and perhaps some criminal charges of failure to report.

    • @annettelacey7913
      @annettelacey7913 29 дней назад +4

      She got amunity

    • @petuniab.222
      @petuniab.222 29 дней назад +6

      I completely agree
      I think she should have been charged . They don't need her or Gibb

    • @ljmac22
      @ljmac22 29 дней назад +3

      Any grownup who uses that many “umm’s” in every sentence is definitely a psychopath

    • @MaryGloede
      @MaryGloede 29 дней назад +9

      She was granted immunity in exchange for information. If LE had something substantial that would withstand or warrant prosecution, they would have arrested and charged her in the beginning. Immunity is offered to people who can help LE arrest and convict the major criminals.

    • @adoral.libertucci2647
      @adoral.libertucci2647 29 дней назад +4

      @@ljmac22That is not actually in the definition of psychopath.

  • @jemma6596
    @jemma6596 18 дней назад +3

    Boy, the defense attorney, yet again, is being such a condescending jerk to the witness. Why, o why, do defense attorneys do this?!?
    Let me remind Mr. Prior, his client believes all the stuff, and much, much more, that the witness believes! Treating witnesses with hostility never makes a defendant look good. What a schmuck!!

  • @StephanieBeitzel
    @StephanieBeitzel 28 дней назад +6

    Alex on Earth to be Lori’s protector?? 🤔 EPIC FAIL!!!!

    • @adoeandfawn
      @adoeandfawn 28 дней назад +6

      The only people who needed protection were the ones in Lori’s way.

  • @adoral.libertucci2647
    @adoral.libertucci2647 29 дней назад +10

    “There’s a third eye on the forehead?? You don’t actually see a third eye on your forehead at night when you’re sleeping , do you??” What a bully!! Zulema did really well.

    • @Eric-ot7en
      @Eric-ot7en 29 дней назад +2

      Zulema is no hero. Heros don't get immunity

  • @marionkeenan2980
    @marionkeenan2980 14 дней назад +2

    Zulema is by far the most informative regarding the beliefs they followed.

  • @kazrutch463
    @kazrutch463 27 дней назад +3

    Zulema remembered a lot with the prosecutor but not with Mr Pryor. Interesting.

  • @heatherarman2060
    @heatherarman2060 16 дней назад +2

    I know this is the least important thing concerning this trial. However, the way Zulema speaks (so monotone) and takes such long pauses before she answers just runs all over me. 😠
    I do have to give her one thing. I loved when she asked Chads attorney to ask only one question at a time. You could hear in his voice he was surprised she said it and it took him a couple seconds to get back on track.

  • @darkallegiance666
    @darkallegiance666 18 дней назад +2

    Anybody else ever read James Hogg’s book “Confessions of a Justified Sinner”? I can’t help thinking of it with this case. Chad & Lori’s religion is like a cross between black witchcraft & the religion Hogg’s Justified Sinner was a part of.

  • @keepinitreal938
    @keepinitreal938 28 дней назад +4

    It's really weird that prior didnt object during zulema's testimony. On the other witnesses he was objecting all the time.

  • @KL-gy2qz
    @KL-gy2qz 28 дней назад +3

    The fact that Chad scribbles on that notepad as though he has mitigating circumstances or can debunk Zulema is pure criminal fantasy. He is a monumental choad. And of course only his children were 'light' while others were dark. Can't make this sky wizard stuff up - yet he did!

  • @pinatasamurai8554
    @pinatasamurai8554 29 дней назад +5

    This sounds like Days of Our Lives Soap Opera .Oh Yeah !!!😮

    • @waypay1
      @waypay1 27 дней назад

      Nikki: "John! I just found my mother tied up in a secret room off the foyer!"
      Honestly, DOOL was more believable even at its silliest. 🤦‍♀️

  • @user-hn6lf6yp3e
    @user-hn6lf6yp3e 22 дня назад +4

    Prior’s voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard!

  • @toddbainter1606
    @toddbainter1606 27 дней назад +2

    Can someone help me with Idaho law and let me know in a capital murder case is it not required for the defense to have at least two attorneys?

    • @Regnbeans
      @Regnbeans 24 дня назад +1

      I think it’s on this channel the host Nate Eaton interviewed the 2nd chair of Lori’s defense team re death counsel requirements it was just before this trial started. I don’t remember if they answered ur question but I thought it was weird too and thought maybe there wasn’t anyone else qualified willing to work on it lol. Or maybe just Chad and his kids trying to save $. Tbh I have to skip a lot of the cross this guy just has too many typical defense attorney tropes and it’s like every single time. And personally w some of these witnesses I think it would come off better if he tried the friendly approach.

    • @user-ce8tr1ex2m
      @user-ce8tr1ex2m 22 дня назад +4

      It is required if the state provides defense attorneys, those rules don’t apply for privately retained council, which John Prior is

    • @toddbainter1606
      @toddbainter1606 22 дня назад

      @@user-ce8tr1ex2m I appreciate the information..that makes sense.

  • @RDnAC
    @RDnAC 29 дней назад +13

    Is that a bad wig or badly bleached and damaged hair?

    • @natalieselig6306
      @natalieselig6306 29 дней назад +7

      It’s the latter, but both options are equally bad in my opinion.

    • @windywednesday4166
      @windywednesday4166 29 дней назад +10

      Right, SMH, is it a disguise? As if no one will recognize her?Melanie BD did better with the Groucho Marx glasses.

    • @natalieselig6306
      @natalieselig6306 29 дней назад +8

      @@windywednesday4166 I’m glad someone mentioned those glasses. Like what the heck was she thinking?

    • @windywednesday4166
      @windywednesday4166 29 дней назад +8

      @@natalieselig6306 Mwa ha ha Nobody will recognize me now! 😎

    • @Lynn-zx3th
      @Lynn-zx3th 29 дней назад +6

      What is wrong with y’all? Why are you picking her appearance apart?

  • @dianesaienni5466
    @dianesaienni5466 19 дней назад +2

    Satan cannot forgive sins and neither can. Chad daybell.

  • @CassieRD
    @CassieRD 18 дней назад +3

    It's embarrassing that anyone actually believed and followed Chad... 😂

  • @Cassie-pt7mt
    @Cassie-pt7mt 2 дня назад +1

    Zulema was the standout lay witness. Her diaries were so damning.

  • @dyslexiaDIY
    @dyslexiaDIY 26 дней назад +3

    I heard a sound above me and wondered if it was God? It was a roofer. Today he is God

  • @SammyNeedsAnAlibi
    @SammyNeedsAnAlibi 2 дня назад +2

    I know what Chaff's next move would of been if he got away with killing Tammy, JJ, and Tylee.... he'd marry Zeluma, both Melanie's, and his "Gatherers"- all of which were women. Also note the meetings with all women and no men- that was by design. So that's what I think Chaff's major goal was- Make Polygamy Great Again....

  • @Lynn-zx3th
    @Lynn-zx3th 29 дней назад +12

    I mean…Were they all smoking meth?

    • @KrisCorby-iv8dg
      @KrisCorby-iv8dg 29 дней назад +1

      I was just wondering if this nonsense is going to sell in prison or what? Wouldn't that be an interesting show though? How these guys get by inside...Who knows!!...maybe he'll have "groupies" inside!...🙄🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @alicebusinelle408
      @alicebusinelle408 28 дней назад +2

      I wish they were. It would be less scary if drugs could be blamed for this crazy bs.

  • @caseyconatser7926
    @caseyconatser7926 29 дней назад +7

    Halloween night she stated dating Alex and as all great horror movies go 7 days later ..... Engaged... She got lucky there but i do believe he intended to kill her for she knew far to much

    • @lindalumae
      @lindalumae 28 дней назад +3

      Chad wanted her dead but Alex couldn’t or wouldn’t do it. Do you know if she had life insurance? It seems the killings were primarily for money and convenience.
      However, I wonder about Tylee. She knew what happened with Charles and lied to the police for her mom and Alex. She was about to turn 18 so her Social Security benefits were going to stop. That meant she knew too much and wasn’t providing any money.
      I haven’t worked out the timeline though. If Chad moved her from light to dark before or after Charles’ death.

    • @waypay1
      @waypay1 27 дней назад +1

      She was higher up the ladder than Alex. I think it was the other way around.

    • @waypay1
      @waypay1 27 дней назад +2

      ​@@lindalumaeTylee was 16. They had a whole additional year they could have collected her money.

    • @caseyconatser7926
      @caseyconatser7926 26 дней назад +2

      @@lindalumae I don't know if there was any or not. That's interesting about when Chad moved her from light to dark before or after Charles death.

    • @lindalumae
      @lindalumae 25 дней назад +1

      @@waypay1 True but that was a whole year that they would have to hope she kept quiet. At that point they were balancing the risk of keeping her around with the benefit of the money.

  • @sherryhayden7369
    @sherryhayden7369 29 дней назад +2

    I’m sorry is this a comedy scrip? If I was there I would be laughing my ass off. This is such nonsense.

  • @letitbesummer6536
    @letitbesummer6536 26 дней назад +2

    The fact that anyone can believe a bunch of stuff that people tell them astounds me. But then, I feel the same way about religion in general. No offense, religious folks

  • @17Bobby
    @17Bobby 27 дней назад +2

    Chad will truly hope there would be other worlds when this sick monster will be sentenced to prison. It’s so unbelievable that this man without any charm what so ever has been able to influence and brainwash so many people!

  • @ariellecelestee
    @ariellecelestee 29 дней назад +19

    This might be an unpopular opinion, but the way I perceive her and Melanie Gibb’s testimonies is that they truly didn’t know anyone was going to die, just the spirit that inhabited the body would die. Sounds absolutely insane to us, but this is sorta a common delusion in hyper religious people. I can sense remorse and compassion from her, and I cannot imagine how horrible she must feel now. This entire case is awful, and the true villains here are Lori, Chad, and Alex.

  • @joakuz
    @joakuz 29 дней назад

    „Zulemes Pastenes”? Who made your thumbnail? 😂

  • @georgegeorge9793
    @georgegeorge9793 4 дня назад +1

    Jesus Christ' came to the americas'? I bet he had tea with joseph smith at the time. 😂

  • @bernicejones3271
    @bernicejones3271 29 дней назад +6

    Heblos/ he blows

  • @DeniseHanna-kt4yl
    @DeniseHanna-kt4yl 16 дней назад +1

    How all these crazies manage to find each other?????

  • @vladtheimpala218
    @vladtheimpala218 29 дней назад +18

    Oh here we go the Uhmms start…

    • @ljmac22
      @ljmac22 29 дней назад +7

      Thank God for playback speed control.

    • @user-ce8tr1ex2m
      @user-ce8tr1ex2m 29 дней назад +4

      I’m 10 minutes into the video and it’s already painful 😂

    • @vladtheimpala218
      @vladtheimpala218 29 дней назад +4

      idk if I have the strength to go through another Zulema testimony even with 2x speed… Lori trial flashbacks…

    • @gv1967
      @gv1967 2 дня назад

      It's infuriating. Is she slow?

  • @wickedsarasota
    @wickedsarasota День назад +1

    The new blonde hair on zulema and Emma signify that they are in support of Lori. The blonde hair on Lori and Melanie's signify a hierarchy in the cult . Zulema and Emma have moved up . Dont be fooled . There is still very much a cult going on. Its reminiscent of the Manson family.

  • @Pixplayz
    @Pixplayz 29 дней назад +7

    How did they know about the exhumation? Surely the police would have had to tell Chad as he was next of kin

  • @user-hn6lf6yp3e
    @user-hn6lf6yp3e 22 дня назад +1

    All of them had something to do with all of this and should be held accountable.

  • @juliepatrick5430
    @juliepatrick5430 2 дня назад +1

    These people are ridiculous... it amazes me how easily people fall for shit. Look at that dude...prophet?? Really?

  • @heidiyoung5920
    @heidiyoung5920 8 дней назад +1

    Listen to this already but had to re listen as it's a headache trying to even understand wtf there believes was its like when a child makes up story and it just goes on and on and makes no sense whatsoever

  • @maryriehm4752
    @maryriehm4752 18 дней назад +2

    Crazy. 😮

  • @dianesaienni5466
    @dianesaienni5466 19 дней назад +1

    she sounds like a 6 year old but definitely has the mind of a 2 year old.

  • @Pr3ttyGiirlALWAYS
    @Pr3ttyGiirlALWAYS 28 дней назад +1

    They don’t get to go through those emails 👀👀👀👀👀👀

  • @maryhodgson8604
    @maryhodgson8604 14 дней назад +2

    I think zuelema was caugh in a lie ..when she was asked by the cops at her door asking her did she know where lorie +chad was she said i dont know .when she was in the hospital with Alex she aske the cop am i going to jail?? Why would she asked that ? Is my question .Lawyer Prior should look that on up. Why.???did she have something to do with his death she loved lorie.something is fishie about her ...

  • @oliviaaybar4602
    @oliviaaybar4602 16 часов назад +1

    SO ANYBODY WHO DISAGREE WITH CHAD BECAME A DARK PERSON. HE CREATED THIS DELUSIONAL MAGICAL HEAVEN WHERE HE HAD A DIRECT CONTACT WITH GOD. TOTALLY NONSENSE,

  • @joyleenpoortier7496
    @joyleenpoortier7496 29 дней назад +15

    I think she spoke well but I can’t believe the crap that is spoken about here. I still feel they are all involved in the dangerous practice. Good old JP tried to discredit her does he really believe Chad is innocent.

    • @annettelacey7913
      @annettelacey7913 29 дней назад +10

      I think JP knows chads guilty, There is so much evidence,There's more evidence than in lori's trial,

    • @georgemonde8237
      @georgemonde8237 29 дней назад +7

      She spoke well but she's not bright and she's easily fooled like most religious people

    • @Lynn-zx3th
      @Lynn-zx3th 29 дней назад +3

      I think he is probably just trying to save his life & get life w/o parole rather than death penalty.

    • @Lynn-zx3th
      @Lynn-zx3th 29 дней назад +3

      @@georgemonde8237I think it’s probably because they were raised so sheltered, and then a lot of really religious people don’t even watch tv,.

    • @adoral.libertucci2647
      @adoral.libertucci2647 29 дней назад +7

      @@georgemonde8237Most religious people are fooled?? That’s a pretty ignorant statement. Some, yes, but not most. There are many more moderate rational believers than extremists.

  • @AriesRising4444
    @AriesRising4444 28 дней назад +4

    Chad was having a good time there for awhile. When Charles ended up dead, Chad should have RUN.

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD 18 дней назад

      But Lori's yellow bikini was too hard to resist 💀😂

  • @2Madre
    @2Madre 10 дней назад +1

    They all dyed their hair to match Loris - is this a bid to show their support for her or part of their cult now. You know they are still practicing their dark magick

  • @ardenpeters4386
    @ardenpeters4386 28 дней назад +4

    HOW CAN ANYONE GET SUCKED INTO THIS STUFF???!! AND ... THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LDS CHURCH AT ALL.

    • @adoeandfawn
      @adoeandfawn 28 дней назад +2

      Yeah him saying he’s Heavenly Father’s brother should have woken everyone up.

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD 18 дней назад

      ​@@adoeandfawnlol and that he was the holy spirit 💀🤦🏻‍♀️😂 like... really? This dude????

  • @petrab.9612
    @petrab.9612 27 дней назад +1

    These "scriptures" are taking the cake 😂😂😂

  • @yubuiltlikethat
    @yubuiltlikethat 17 дней назад

    If she says ummmmm ONE MORE DAMN TIME!!! My gawd!!!

  • @chasity71mvp19
    @chasity71mvp19 27 дней назад +1

    Wow, all I can say is, Chad has one heck of an imagination. You can tell he is a writer. However I think he needs educated on the difference between fiction and nonfiction 😒 this is crazy

  • @ChristinaTodd1970
    @ChristinaTodd1970 28 дней назад

    50:09 So confused right about now

  • @maryhodgson8604
    @maryhodgson8604 14 дней назад

    Piror got the good questions zulma has to really stop and think .she been marrage i think 5 or 7 times shes a fox .i dont trust her.she knows alot just like The 2 Millanies.

  • @PatDe-zj4et
    @PatDe-zj4et 29 дней назад +6

    Alex was in Love with Zulema. Lori tried to get Alex to get rid of her probably for more money but he argued with them and wouldn't do it. Lori was jealous of Zulema. Alex was beginning to realize what a fake Chad was. Alex was stressed out and not taking care of himself and died from blood clots. He was driving a lot and not exercising

    • @ritaeichler2066
      @ritaeichler2066 29 дней назад +9

      That is conjecture. I find it suspicious that he died having the same symptons as Tammy's death.

    • @ritaeichler2066
      @ritaeichler2066 29 дней назад +4

      How did zulema agree to marry alex when she knew he had shot charles bc he was deemed a 'zombie'??

    • @ritaeichler2066
      @ritaeichler2066 29 дней назад +1

      Why would any normal person be involved with a cult of 'deaths' of spirits or bodies or the end of world??

    • @kellitate4066
      @kellitate4066 29 дней назад +4

      Alex, Chad's neighbor, and Tammy Daybell all died from pulmonary embolism.
      That seems like far too many people in the same circle as Chad and Lori to not seem suspicious, considering blood clots in the lung are relatively rare.

    • @kellitate4066
      @kellitate4066 29 дней назад +1

      Not eating properly and driving too much wouldn't cause this to happen

  • @MiturBinEsderty
    @MiturBinEsderty 27 дней назад +1

    I think the stress killed Alex

    • @Truth17John17
      @Truth17John17 26 дней назад +2

      Alex was murdered. I don't care what whoever did his autopsy said. The timing is way too coincidental, and Zulema was likely involved. She behaved in a guilty manner when the police first questioned her: "Do you think I did something?" she asked. Then, "Oh, I was afraid you thought that I did something...." The only reason those two were married is because Chad and Lori told them to get married. Why? Because they knew Zulema would do whatever she was told and they were done using Alex.

    • @CassieRD
      @CassieRD 18 дней назад +1

      And by "stress" you mean Chad and Lori 😂😂😂😂

    • @MiturBinEsderty
      @MiturBinEsderty 18 дней назад

      @@Truth17John17 death happens at any time. And it’s weak minded people like you that will have confirmation bias. And have findings not based in facts. He was mid 40’s never went to a doctor men before modern medicine would drop dead before 50 all the time. Heart attacks were even more prevalent than they are today.