My great grandfather was exploring Fort Lowell in Tucson in the early 1900’s and found a 1865 Springfield 50-70 trapdoor rifle hidden up in the rafters of the fort. It’s been passed down to me for 4 generations and I will pass it down to my son.
Spaniards were not US citizens. But yes, the founding fathers intended for citizens to own cannons. Most cannons used in the war for independence were privately owned.
Santa Fe was founded within 60 years. Quivera is what he was looking for - an east west water passage across the continent. They brought Franciscan Friars and The True Cross. Continually attacking the Conquistodors is Anti- Hispanic, Anti- Catholic, and, above all, poor history. Nice Cannon.
The legacy of Spanish culture in the United States is immense, more than what is studied in schools and high schools. Many cities and some states have Spanish or Spanish-derived names, and to think that all this began with a small kingdom (Castile and Aragon) that conquered the Iberian Peninsula and then almost the rest of the world. Part of the United States War of Independence was financed with the Spanish currency (the peso), which was the first global currency (equivalent to the current US dollar). Spain contributed with more weapons and troops to the United States War of Independence than any other country. The Spanish navy also sank British ships that were bringing weapons and supplies to the British army in the United States. Some time ago, Spanish TV interviewed a descendant of Geronimo who spoke almost perfect Spanish (with an English accent). This man complained more about the treatment his family had received from the first Americans than about the treatment they received from the first Spaniards.
@@joseantoniorodriguezi6755 the early Apache were persecuted by most other natives in that area . They were immigrants from northern Canada and were killed or enslaved by the rest until they decided to resist more strongly than their attackers
bronze is a brittle metal - not suited to being a cannon or firearm. It would crack. This device was meant for something completely different, and I have the whole story behind them. THey were sounding devices meant to keep ships from crashing into the coastlines along shipping routes, and I can quote from multiple books which point this out.
There were many bronze cannons, both on land and on ships, before iron replaced them. Bronze field artillery cannons, such as the Model 1857 12-pounder, were still used in the U.S. Civil War, some 300 years after they were first developed. The bronze naval guns called "culverins, " carronades", etc were also until about the middle of the 19th century.
Where was information? It was assumptions at large scale it is pre US commentator stated oldest US weapon 500 years ago. Which makes it European because you guys didn't exist as country back then
If he took it off the line before it got stamped, maybe he stole it & 'its the gold' (surprise youre dead type of thing)...just a guess. Great find, great story!
Why? They sold it under contract and the deal was binding. This will cause a huge court battle and drag on for years, they wouldn't even benefit from it in any way since all of the US citizens and their assets would just have to relocate to other US territory so Mexico would just get a bunch of empty desert with no real value.
My great grandfather was exploring Fort Lowell in Tucson in the early 1900’s and found a 1865 Springfield 50-70 trapdoor rifle hidden up in the rafters of the fort. It’s been passed down to me for 4 generations and I will pass it down to my son.
That is super cool! Neat heirloom.
@@craigthescott5074 There is no model 1864 trapdoor you’re either confused on the actual date or were scammed
@ sorry it’s an 1865 trapdoor and it’s an Allin Conversion in 50-70 which was the first conversion.
That's weird. I have an uncle that found a case of trapdoor Springfield's out in the woods by silver City in Idaho. Also 50/70 govt.
Allin conversion and everything
It's a conquistador RPG.
It was banned by the democrats in 1934.
So what you're saying is in the US tradition has citizens owning canons.
You can have cannons in England (but you have to be a re enacter for a good reason to get a permit) I've got 4 🇬🇧🇺🇲
@@cedhome7945 You don't need any such permit in the US. Maybe in some specific states, but not most of them.
Wrong! Spaniards came here on horses looking for the Fountain of Youth and Gold!
I have owned several incl. registered DD's
Spaniards were not US citizens.
But yes, the founding fathers intended for citizens to own cannons.
Most cannons used in the war for independence were privately owned.
They didn't get to keep it because they didn't have a Firearms Permit.
No permit necessary for black powder.
@@gwenmiller516
Yes, I'm aware of that. You must not have gotten the joke.........
@@gwenmiller516 The Spanish took the black powder with them when they left, so it was just a regular gun when they found it.
Not a firearm
ATF already on the prowl, investigating whether or not Coronado's licensed to have that particular WMD.
It's not an "American Firearm". It's a Spanish firearm carried by the Spanish Conquistadors of Coronado.
Should we return it to Spain? (Just kidding)
Santa Fe was founded within 60 years. Quivera is what he was looking for - an east west water passage across the continent. They brought Franciscan Friars and The True Cross. Continually attacking the Conquistodors is Anti- Hispanic, Anti- Catholic, and, above all, poor history. Nice Cannon.
The conquistadors sucked big time. To hell with the catholics… spanish inquisition, antiscience, antinormal.
@stopbeingsoweirdstill You got the guns. We got the numbers...
You mean Nick Cannon?
Finally, I start seeing people calling out what is nothing more than veiled bigotry. Godspeed.
The legacy of Spanish culture in the United States is immense, more than what is studied in schools and high schools. Many cities and some states have Spanish or Spanish-derived names, and to think that all this began with a small kingdom (Castile and Aragon) that conquered the Iberian Peninsula and then almost the rest of the world.
Part of the United States War of Independence was financed with the Spanish currency (the peso), which was the first global currency (equivalent to the current US dollar). Spain contributed with more weapons and troops to the United States War of Independence than any other country. The Spanish navy also sank British ships that were bringing weapons and supplies to the British army in the United States.
Some time ago, Spanish TV interviewed a descendant of Geronimo who spoke almost perfect Spanish (with an English accent). This man complained more about the treatment his family had received from the first Americans than about the treatment they received from the first Spaniards.
@@joseantoniorodriguezi6755 the early Apache were persecuted by most other natives in that area . They were immigrants from northern Canada and were killed or enslaved by the rest until they decided to resist more strongly than their attackers
left a violent mark? like it was peaceful before? lol
You're engaging in whataboutism
Literally like bringing a machine gun to a spear fight.
that's literally not what literally literally means
Combined Arms are Literally a Game Changer and Clearly on the Right Side of History with a Word Side Salad.
Lightning and thunder would have impressed aborigines.
I am sure this violates some ATF rule!
No, muzzle loaders are not under ATF jurisdiction. You could have one mailed to your door.
Two please. Do they come in nickel plated.
It's my understanding that muzzle loaders are not legally considered firearms.
bronze is a brittle metal - not suited to being a cannon or firearm. It would crack. This device was meant for something completely different, and I have the whole story behind them. THey were sounding devices meant to keep ships from crashing into the coastlines along shipping routes, and I can quote from multiple books which point this out.
There were many bronze cannons, both on land and on ships, before iron replaced them. Bronze field artillery cannons, such as the Model 1857 12-pounder, were still used in the U.S. Civil War, some 300 years after they were first developed. The bronze naval guns called "culverins, " carronades", etc were also until about the middle of the 19th century.
You need to do your homework, Seamus.
Heck that is the oldest zip gun!
As far as Kansas! Impressive for the day, and circumstances! Thx. 👍
@@johnking6252 @Comanches ment business, gave those
ILLEGAL Imegrents
Hell.
They got there and said, 'this is boring', just like people today!
@@TylerD288 I'm sure they were wondering where all the hills went.
@@ColonelSandersLite 😅
@@TylerD288 Note to visitors - there is nothing to see here in Kansas, it's boring so go away or better yet go elsewhere to gawk.
There is no chance this gun was sent out without test firing🥴
Was it covered by insurance? Not that uncommon, esp. for naval guns. Even then.
This whole channel is AI crap, with an AI voice. Cant yall tell?
super badass discovery, thanks for this informative video. A modern day photo of the discovery site would've made this video "Tits"👌
Where was information? It was assumptions at large scale it is pre US commentator stated oldest US weapon 500 years ago. Which makes it European because you guys didn't exist as country back then
Stolen by an Indian
You could say its CANON NOW HEY OH
🤪HA-CHAA!
It is actually known as a Hackbut
Or wall gun as was noted
Maybe if the Spanish soldiers had used the cannon, they would not have had to retreat and abandon the fort.
My mom dug up cannon ball in her garden in 2016
Oldest firearm? How do you hold it? Nice cannon.
I'm surmising but I'll bet it was set up like a square murderer; the stock has long since rotted away.
Deni Seymour rocks!!
I saw it the other way around and thought it was an RPG.
Zip gunnn
Vazquez (vas-kez) not vaskwez
If he took it off the line before it got stamped, maybe he stole it & 'its the gold' (surprise youre dead type of thing)...just a guess. Great find, great story!
Fransisco VASSQWEZ
Lol stupid AI voice generator.
Wayyy Cool 😎😎😎
this part of Arizona is reclaimed by the Mexican government...
Why? They sold it under contract and the deal was binding. This will cause a huge court battle and drag on for years, they wouldn't even benefit from it in any way since all of the US citizens and their assets would just have to relocate to other US territory so Mexico would just get a bunch of empty desert with no real value.
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