Cele lashes out at Action Society
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2022
- There was a tense exchange as Police Minister, Bheki Cele, met Gugulethu residents today. Civil rights organisation Action Society is accusing him of neglecting the Western Cape. #DStv403
We are done with apartheid. Enough now. We need affordable fuel, electricity water, food, security. No more corruption. This guy is too emotional to run the ministry. You can't keep playing the race card
Couldn't agree with you more my man , well said ! crazy thing is alot of us south africans are on the same page we all want the same things yet nothing will ever change
So true what you've said there!!
True.
They are adept at covering their corruption / incompetence with the distraction of "racism" 😂
Question any of them on actual policy failures or dereliction of duty and you get this kinda nonsensical emotional response lol
Community member: "sir, why are you still struggling to keep the crime rate under control? Law abiding South africans are suffering."
Cader: "Did you just call me a n_$$er?" 😂
So true !
Imagine a police minister being a bully and not wanting to be questioned about the rate of crime sies
You've nailed it. He is a bully.
Imagine someone coming out saying that Cele's parents were not what he claimed they were.😅
Bad minister the of giving people positions that they not qualified for
…so disgusting, the whole minister
The loudest person in the room is the weakest person in the room...don't raise your voice just prove your argument...
Empty barrels make the most noise
I stand with Ian Cameron on this one ✊🏾
Me too
Ian needs to learn that Blacks can never be helped.
@@TBOTSS lets not keep up... black people from other countries can and must be helped...
@@TBOTSS your comment is as good as Bheki Cele's response
@@ivanbasson982 Since the end of European rule of most of the African continent there has been crisis after crisis. I do not wish to go into details, however in Africa people are getting shorter - the only continent showing such a trend. Under European rule they grew. What does that tell you? As for South Africa - look at Zimbabwe for its future.
"We went to Robben Island therefore we can steal as much as possible without doing any of the work, it's our turn to feast." That's basically the attitude of all these ANC politicians. Any good they may have done back then has been undone x100 times over by their destructive entitlement over the years.
Very true!
True
They make me sick to my stomach. I've been tired of their nincampoopery for a long time now😭
Just like whytes stole the land....
Exactly
This man has had an emotional breakdown. He must b removed out of police. He is incompetent and is putting all SA citizens lives in danger
They all useless. SA deserves better than these thugs
He has a breakdown 'cause he recognizes the truth.......
Big Up's to the man who stood his ground,..he has the courage that most of us shun away from. We the people have the right to question our leaders and demand answers.
Lol
This guy is not a leader
We don't owe Mfana kaCele anything, and you were not the only one who struggled for this country. There's no reason for shouting.
Well said
So let me get this straight, because you served prison-time that somehow qualifies you to be a chief of police and because you were locked up in yesteryear, it means nobody must criticize you or the quality of job you are doing. We have seen SAPS true colors during July 2021 when you failed to protect citizens and abandoned the people, instead of giving yourself bonuses why don't you take that money and recruit more policeman in areas of desperate need like this. We are ranked the 3rd most dangerous country in the world. There are actual war-zones which are deemed safer according to statistics. What a joke, just taking the people for a ride and milking our tax money until your turn is up.
You'd never get it.... You're White.
True this was unbecoming on a man of his post and crime has gotten out of control. However this display simply shows another grave underlying issue within the country. Pretending everything is daisy and we have ''moved on and reconciled'' simply isn't true. It's so easy say to say ''putting racism in the past''. Its idealism and wishful thinking at best, the decades of apartheid in south africa have ensured that in 1994 it gained a pseudo independence because no matter which way you dice or slice it, the minority controls all the wealth in the nation. From land to the banking sector.
YES WHITES CANT TEACH BLACK PEOPLE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS.THEY ARE THE LAST GROUP TO DO SO.😊
Exactly why South Africa is a failed state like the rest of Africa. They will always be second class because of their own doings.
He is not alone even the other mdala by name ( home affairs)can sme teach them leadership manners pliz
I couldn't give a flying sh#t if you went to jail yesterday, DO YOUR JOB TODAY OR SHIP OUT!
Why hands clapping, South Africans will never cease to amaze me
Its astonishing 😲
There were many Village Idiots in the hall.
Dude!!! We honestly need to stop being held ransom by these politicians.
Beneficiary of corruption
The same Question I was asking myself!
Obviously can't deal with the truth.we live in a gangster state.respect for that guy he is a legend.enough is enough.our people are dying
Mxaah white people pretend to know everything and don't know what we black people face everyday I support Cele
@@smokes322 just because he is white?
@@smokes322 he was talking for the black community not for the white community
What a slap in the face of millions of domestic workers and garden workers to refer to them as if they are unworthy!!! I have more respect for them than for this excuse of a human being!!! What a poor show by this clown!!!!!
Also a slap in the face for the red berets. Aren't they wear the same uniform
Yet in this modern age we have people crossing the borders in their 100's to perform those 'menial' task here. And they still prefer to work for whites.🤔😏
Yah no I don't think that was his point eh. He's objecting to the terminology "boy" and "girl" which I 100% sympathise with. It's degrading and robs people of their dignity.
But that's also 100% where it ends. This oke has no idea what "human rights" means - he thinks it's all about "me me me".
What utter rubbish! He should take his own advice and get out!
His response to whatever question was asked speaks for itself. No dignity.
And, no intellect either. Attack the argument, not the person. But that's probably too higher grade for our 'honourable' minister. Pity.
Cele is using racism to avoid the questions which he has to answer holding an office.
Could not have said it better thanx. Bro👍
Exactly
The ANC way for all their woes.
But also some the guy reminded him of being arrested for fighting for black people then and never said a thing cos as a white obviously he was enjoying himself.
That is the ANC's modus operandi ever since Zuma took office and allowed the flood gates of corruption to open for comrades.
I'm disappointed with all the people in that hall who didn't stand up for that guy. Just shows what kind of a cowardly, paralysed society we've become. Forget about race, we all suffering from their shameless incompetence. These so called leaders are full of nonsense, arrogant, entitled, greedy, amoral, low self-esteem. Our parents fought and almost died for the struggle too, never got acknowledgement or reward for it. Gerrout of here man😤
Well said
I also disappointed
Couldn't agree with you more. We have lost our way. Time to forge a new country, without the cowards, the corrupt, the shameless and the Godless. If we stand together, as one, and use the power of our vote to change this reality, we can become the country that Mandela believed we could be. I still remember the 90's. We can not only get there again, but go beyond that, too. But it all starts with cleaning up our house first... the 'house' of Parliament is a good place to start. Bring back morals, ethics, and a God-fearing society once again. And let's rid ourselves of the ANC, once and for all.
Not every blek wants to date a whyte person...like u...u can fotsek with yo whyteman...ok
True
Millennials and Gen Z haven't lived that life, the life we are living right now is the life of walking in the streets of Jozi in fear because of high crime, the life we are living is the life of high unemployment, the life of staying in 2 bedroom with family of 5 in Alexander watching our neighbors in Sandton living in luxury.
Learning about the history of this country from books is enough, what we want is economic opportunities and safety and service delivery. Don't trap us trap us by the past.
Yup. You are 100% correct. And no amount of bullying and shouting others down will change what they have done. And how they show no regard for the country. May God Himself deal with them.
You can start towards a better life by first not coveting what your neighbours in Sandton have, and secondly, do the right thing by voting out a corrupt government and replace them with one that will create opportunities. But, in the final analysis, it is you who creates your own opportunities. The past is gone. You are trapping yourself bu holding on to hate. Let it go.
@@eltonpadia9405 Exactly what I was just about to say that comment about Sandton is gonna keep them poor
Unbelievable exhibition. It’s Malema-like. Even a garden boy wouldn’t behave like a rabid dog.
People have had enough of no-service & incompetence. If he can't take the heat he should resign
Yup....
His response paints the perfect picture of the current situation of our country. Old heads who use the past to justify the actions of the present. Yes he is human then he must go see a therapist about his problems about his mother being a maid and his father a gardener. He shouldn't show those emotions to the general public because if you do you be called a clown. He is the head of fucking police. If I was a gangster and I saw that I would be creaming myself of how pathetic he is. You lead by example and the example he shown was pathetic.
Very true. They're out of touch.
Does he wanna be a president some day?
Cele's father wasn't even a garden boy, he worked at a railway company and he was in one of the highest position a person of colour could reach at that time.
@@wynut2392 So this means he Wa using this to avid criticism. I haven even less respect for him now.
The world is watching you Cele!Was it your answer to the Question Baby Cele?Go home and never come back again! Is time!Don't try to divide us! South African!
Absolutely while they are dividing creating chaos. Watch out while we are distracted that's when they steal, corrupt and do nothiiiiing.
Cele did not exercise emotional intelligence, disappointing.😂🤦🏾♂️ Such people who think talking loudly and angrily answers questions or gets work done should not be put into leadership positions. This is embarrassing
@flwhitehorn Amen
Dive into the past to avoid the incompetence of the present. Shem. Shem. Shem.
What he did was side step the issue. Instead, he played to the audience and evoked emotions based on his history, something he knew would resonate with his audience. He played the race card because it's a strategy to raise the tension in the room, win over the crowd, silence the white man (opposition), remind the viewers of his struggle credentials, establish his dominance and ultimately misdirect the discussion. By referring to his parents he evoked the sympathy of the crowd who had or may have had similar experiences. And now, we are talking about how he conducted himself instead of the real issue which is policing in the western cape.
That's correct....and the audience's like wind.....
yet all that hogwash that spewed out of celes mouth had nothing to do with the questions thrown at him.truly want to know if a black man questioned him same what would he have used
And that is what happened.
If this video is all there is, Cele likely did not address the issue, saying that he was called a garden boy is dodging questions by claiming defamation of character, saying that he fought for human rights doesn't absolve him or those under him of the abuse of such rights.
Is it even legal for him to force a member of public to sit down or to get out of such a venue? To disappear from a public forum? Is that not an abuse of a right of expression? Of protest?
Lol pots can only crack under serious heat hey..
Unfortunately you see it with low IQ people all the time - they get humiliated and then cannot respond on topic so they cherry pick about some bs irrelevance.
Completely inept.
This is a typical problem of speaking in English and reasoning/thinking in vernacular. This young man says Cele talks nonsense and I think that felt like a dagger piercing Cele especially considering the young man was telling the truth.
Criticism is not always racism. Sometimes you need to humble yourself and be discerning, but then again he's a politician. There's always an ulterior motive.
I just wish that the greater community of this country could start to see through politicians' grandstanding.
It's all a bunch of theatrics, because the moment he leaves that podium things will go back to the way they were if they don't get worse for that community.
It's all good and well to have fought for freedom, but what has been done to maintain it for the vast majority of the country?
This man is one of the many reasons the ANC will always lose in the western Cape
@Yothu Yindi Don't confuse racism with incompetence.
He's one of the reasons the anc lost in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal. The anc just can't seem to stop ruining its own chances. It's funny to watch though.
@Yothu Yindi And you wont be racist to another human being in any part of the world. End of story.Also give back the land you stole from the Khoi and San.
@@kaypilla4676 we are waiting. stolen and stolen again by the ANC.
@Yothu Yindi that loud mouth was the racist
The definition of a bad day at the office. Scary thing is this unhinged fool is our minister of police.
Nicely said freakin unhinged fool 😃 😊 😀 😄 😁 😆 😃 😊 😀 😄
More scary is the idiots who voted for him
Go figure
And the most crazy thing is the community is defending him when he feels fokol for them. The guy who was thrown out is fighting for the rights of those very same people and still they side with Cele
“The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the Axe for the Axe was clever and convinced the Trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.”
Turkish Proverb.
And that, my friend is your answer to the ANC's confidence and brazen outlook. Democracy only works with an educated nation. Since 1994, the standards of education has taken a downward turn. I think that was done on purpose. Dumb the nation... and rule forever. Smart. Very smart. Now, the realty sets in, but we are all too blind to see or discern.
Are we free or are we dom?
Reminds me of the movie "idiocracy"
It's because the guy who were askng the questions were white
Bringing up his past since he has no solutions or argument. Lmao 😂
Emotions never run the country. Let us be rational and correct our errors.
This man behave like a gangster believing he is above the law the people owe you noting
He is a gangster!
Freedom fighters in Southern Africa have an entitled complex. Because they have suffered they believe that they are entitled and shouldn't be questioned. This is why money goes missing because they believe they suffered for it.
agree 100% to this statement
And they hold the mistaken belief that they represent every black person in society. I think it's just too embarrassing for them to accept that even white people can point out the social injustices meted out at people, mostly black people. In their minds, only a black person is capable of seeing and addressing the sufferings of another black person. They are failing and must just admit that they are failing.
Yes and meanwhile whytes are still enjoyin the entitlemnt gained thru aprthed....same same....
A cabinet minister behaving like a big baby. This fool works for us. He's been a miserable failure.
Cele got no freaking manners!!!!!!!! Why dont you do your job properly now Cele..and stop living in the past...
Cele is doing his part, it's not his fault when the courts decides to give criminals bail, correctional centres release inmates because of the capacity. Its up to the society to work with police forums to root out criminality in our societies. Worse part is that same society knows these criminal.
😂 He's gonna become a meme I swear
😂😂😂
we ar done already
😂😂
😂😂🤞🏾south african memers never disappoint. Mzansi never wastes time😂
Maybe not even a good one🤣
The true hurt doesnt it? A big bully
This man 🤔. And in 2024 some people will vote this fools into power again
I agree with you, he has forgotten the comrades that died for this country, they will really be ashamed of what this country has become, we are on a path of disaster.
Exactly they are going to vote for them again🤦♂️🤦♂️i really dont understand what is wrong with south Africans are we cursed or stupid
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@@vmodiba5726 😂😂 Thank you for the correction. I was actually reading my comment and I noticed that it was a bit "off."
Bheki Cele is a fool of note. He could have calmly answered the question than leave no doubt that he is unfit for office. All the accolades he lavishes on himself do not detract from the truth of what the Action Society member was saying.
Bheki Cele is kak telling us about his history while this young man was telling him about his reality
Cele is a thug and how dare he speak to a citizen like that. He works for us not the other way around
crime is high so who must we blame, the gardener😅
😂😂😂
No!!!! The kitchen girl. 😂😂😂😂
I feel guilty for finding this funny 😂😂😂😂
His father 😂😂😂
What happened to humility? Listening to criticism should be a fighting matter. Those that have stolen from SA state also suffered under apartheid but they quickly forgot once they tasted power
That's because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Mr.cele .I dropped the capital letter in your surname today. You have failed RSA and his people for the past years. Your struggle was your choice now RSA struggle to survive. Face the music
Why are people cheeering? Saddens me deeply to see this. You will remember that young man's face one day.
THAT YOUNG MAN IS STANDING UP FOR THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHOSE LOVED ONES ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED LIKE DOGS BUT OUR BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE TOO DUMB TO SEE THAT!!!!
Nobody would like to see or hear their father being disrespected publicly. That guy should get 'oooout' and learn how to have manners while dealing with elders. That's our National Police Minister, he should have more respect of him and know how to submit his requests
“The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the Axe for the Axe was clever and convinced the Trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.”
Turkish Proverb.
That axe is Bheki Cele and the trees are the people cheering.
@@sibz_world we are so easily distracted as black people it hurts.
@@ellenmudere5583 YOU CLEARLY DON’T TRULY BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION THAT COMES WITH DEMOCRACY. FOOLS LIKE YOU HAVE INFESTED GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS WHY OUR COUNTRY IS IN THE SITUATION IT IS IN…
Easy way out. Cannot accept truth
So in other words: I can't do my job, let me instead tell you that I once got arrested/exiled and also that I don't grasp how democracy & public participation work.
Well said
Clearly wrong person for the job and the crime proofs it what a terrible disaster and disappointment
This guy has had a emotional breakdown. He is not fit for this job. He must be removed
He hides his failure as police minister by shouting at other people because he did not have an answer for the question that he were asked. No. Self respect therefore no respect for others. Why people clap to that?……..
Right on. He comes across as grossly incompetent.
But man, he thinks he is the BIG MAN with his silly little hats.
Bcs they are getting paid😂
Well all he has done is prove that he is unable to take criticism. In a democracy we have to accept divergent viewpoints
Well if he and his friends continue with their corruption,believe you me,their grand children's kids will go back to being kitchen and garden workers.
The arrogance. As if former freedom fighters are not corruptible.
DEAL WITH YO POLICE THY A SLEEPING ON TH JOB
These guys are under so much pressure from all sides the cracks are showing everywhere, they know the end is upon them, enough is enough
Why was the truth shut ? This has nothing to do about previous occupations ? Nothing at all. Why brag of accomplishment if the nation is suffering ?
@@hendrikbarnard6584 Cause he has nothing else to offer.
@@fullmetaltheorist Fact
He must go home and tell his visitors his. Make room for someone who can and wants to make a difference. Actions speak louder than words
Very brave young man 💪
Is Cele a dictator now? He must answer to the people. They tell him what to do. This is a democracy isn't it?
His response paints the perfect picture of the current situation of our country. Old heads who use the past to justify the actions of the present. Yes he is human then he must go see a therapist about his problems about his mother being a maid and his father a gardener. He shouldn't show those emotions to the general public because if you do you be called a clown. He is the head of fucking police. If I was a gangster and I saw that I would be creaming myself of how pathetic he is. You lead by example and the example he shown was pathetic.
@@smokes322 I think the mental state of alot of the older generations of this country should be more of a piority. It could be one of the reasons why the country is in such a mess. If you were treated like sub human youre whole life what kinda message are you going to paint for your children or future genrations.
Minster Cele needs to go on pension, please do not give urself a stroke, we need a younger educated Minister 🙏
It's not about you Cele so stop talking about yourself all the time. You are there to serve the people not grandstand. You should be ashamed Cele.
This is not acceptable in this time now...Cele is stirring shit!!!!!
No minister should react like this
Wherever this Cele is lets put up pressuring him till he exploets 😂😂😂😂
Then cele, you forgot your roots and live the luxury life while the people you "fought for" is STILL living that life!!!
The ANC has become so out of touch with reality due to extreme arrogance as displayed by their ministers like Cele.
It's better to let them doom themselves.
Fighting for our rights in apartheid doesn't go unnoticed but it doesn't mean that currently he is combating the crime in South Africa and I don't believe that his contribution to abolishing apartheid justifies anything. Pride is such a harmful thing sometimes
Cele can't face the truth ,the truth is so painful .
These people who fought for freedom must just leave politics. They've ruined their legacy 😔
Bro 😂😂😂this guy changed the topic of today's issues relating them to the past
He cant fool us youth of S.A 😂😂😂😂😂😂this is not back in the days
Woman are being slaughtered like animals
Crime rate is spiking
I finally see the clip in context. Quite emotional from the minister, not sure why..maybe because a white person raised the issues 🤷♂️. Very emotional I must say. He needs to take leave to cool down
Obviously because the white fellow raised the issue and disrespected him (not because Cele is black, but because he is incompetent). The white fellow is also seeming to be doing more for the community it seems, so it is a double whammy.
It's actually pitiful that we have this muppet as minister. Grossly unqualified.
Its the old people in power that brings conflict between our youth today they cant let go of racism we will never go foward until the old ppl stand down so that the youth of white,black etc can realy unite as 1 ANC lost its vision and i believed in them my trust and love for that party is dead
He has served long and a useless term as minister of police he needs to be removed bcoz he is the reason why we have such a useless police service he must shut up and get out
Clearly you cannot handle the pressure .dont bring your garden boy stories to the table . this struggle is real and we all are in it .....
Our leaders are pathetic speakers!!! We do not really care about your past... really!!
You right we really dont care about his past, we looking at the future we don't have time nor energy for the past
Cele is using the past glory of to justify the position he holds as minister, but the truth is that he is incompetent and crime is getting worse everyday.
There is a bigger problem, if you can hear the large amount of people cheering and applauding Cele.
His incompetence has cost the lives of many SA citizens. He with all the anc must leave... They r not fit for their jobs
I agree with you but I don't think the ANC will be leaving anytime soon with the way people still think.....it will take a different generation to take them out of power.
He is clown with a hat.
He is not and he was never a clown. You don't know him personally.
@@richman604 That is a grown man acting like a child. He is the Head of Police and can't answer a question. That is shocking.
@@bradleypenrith His response was uncanny, however he is still a human after all, not a clown. What was the question asked that led him to such a response.
@@richman604 His response paints the perfect picture of the current situation of our country. Old heads who use the past to justify the actions of the present. Yes he is human then he must go see a therapist about his problems about his mother being a maid and his father a gardener. He shouldn't show those emotions to the general public because if you do you be called a clown. He is the head of fucking police. If I was a gangster and I saw that I would be creaming myself of how pathetic he is. You lead by example and the example he shown was pathetic.
Everything he said was irrelevant and he didn't say one thing to address Cameron's points said because HE CAN'T! He was triggered because bamtshele amaqiniso and he had no where to hide. Your struggle life has nothing to do with what is being discussed today, in fact it reflects very poorly on you to be a black man who grew up during apartheid and are now part of systems that oppress the people you claim to do this for. Uyanya lobaba.
You are a criminal, certainly not a police minister - how many days did you actually serve as a policeman?
What have you done for senzo meyiwa
That's not a great argument from minister. It's true all what he's saying but we can't ignore corruption because of what happened to them.
This is a free country...He has the right to question the unqualified minister.
Ayi ngeke babu Cele "Listening is a skill " especially if you are a public leader "
If you cant handle your job . step down dont bring your garden boy stories to the table . this struggle is real and we all fighting this battle . clearly you cant handle the pressure .
What a disgrace
WELL DONE to that white young man. Enough is enough we cant sit quietly and shut up anymore!!!!
ANC is becoming more like zanu pf
Don't tell us about your past fix our current problems 🤔 white guy has a point
So South Africa 🤔is this the type of service we get from a public servant
Someone that supposed to be for the people by the people 🙄I give up, because if he was in a work environment,he would be disciplined and put on suspension,.....you not above the law minister cele.....I think it's time for u to step down and allow the youth to take over now,you getting old and grumpy and to boasterous about your position,when you are in a position of power,much is required of u,and rite now,it's clear,you have played your part and it's time to go and rest now,hamba kahle Baba👋
You like malema remember you are big chief in government ANC take out this police chief
What was his crime a question that police officers had to approach him
He failed show his leadership totally in front of pple
This is the best example of a person who is totally out of control😈
I hang my head in shame.....THIS is the calibre of rulers in our government..... Help us Lord.
These old fools needs to retire and make room for the younger generation. They can't keep hiding behind their struggle credentials when they are incompetent in their positions of power.
Always going to the past.!!....its true history will repeat itself 😕
The action will speak itself cele the history sometimes does not present anything at presant
Disgustingly arrogant. No conscious. No shame. No intelligence. No leadership skills. No legacy... The list goes on. Embarrassing staff from our parents...