Can’t believe a Jag F type 3.0 V6 S didn’t make the top 5, or even the 5.0 R, both can be bought for £35k, 3.0 more than enough for British roads and the 5.0 is a super car rival! Both surprisingly reasonable to maintain if using an independent
@behindthrglass what’s the plan for After the Checkered Flag? I wasn’t able to get on the ReCast platform, but looking forward to your content with F1 starting. Cheers!
2016/ 17 Lexus GS F, 5L NA V8. It has everything, saloon cabin space, decent boot, V8 sound track, reliability factor and warranty up to 100k miles or 10 years....
There's a lot of serious enthusiast cars you can get for that money. Gen1 Audi R8 manual, B7 RS4. Many 911 and Caymans. Lotus Evora. E92 M3 manual. Alfa Guilia Q. Focus RS. That's just off the top of my head. But really, overlooking the R8 is a big oversight
I'm glad you suggested the M850i Sam. I'm actually trading in my i8 for a 2020 Dravit Grey one in the next week. Cannot wait to pick it up, I drove it and fell in love with it, especially the noise. It's a lot of car for the money. Mine is over £40k but it's a low mileage high spec example from a main dealer.
Instead of the previous gen Civic Type R. The thinking man’s choice would be the i30N. You get 95% of the performance and is the 2nd most driver focused and track ready hot hatch after the Civic, even recent road tests prove this. More tasteful styling. Sounds better. More fun handling characteristics. Better tech. More comfortable. And is a few grand cheaper for an equivalent age/mileage car. You can even buy one brand new for that 35k budget, the new Civic is still 45/50k used.
Some great cars you mentioned there. Not quite a family car, but reasonable milage Porsche Cayman (gen 2) would sit in that price bracket, as an alternative to BMW M2 and Toyota Supra that you mentioned.
I'd normally change my cars like my socks, but I've had my BMW 540i M Sport (18 plate) for nearly 2 years now, mainly because I cannot think of anything that can beat it in terms of space, tech, power and economy (avg 28mpg) without going into more debt to replace it. I'd probably go F90 M5 next........or un-messed with RS6. Keep up the good work chaps
I’ve got a 2018 530d and I love it, but I do wish it offered more driving involvement. It’s a big old heavy boat… I think I’ll go for something smaller next time 😊
For me the best ‘driver’s’ car for under £35k is a Lotus Evora S. I recently bought one and while it's not as versatile/practical as a hot hatch or German saloon it beats them all as a sense of occasion and for driving engagement.
For 35k £ I'd probably go for a BMW E39 M5, it's the era you like, it's old enough to keep its value, definitely cheaper to maintain than a S-class coupe or a Bentley, it's probably one of the best looking sedans (I'd say Maserati Quattroporte 5th gen is next to it), and like it actually drives really nice, easy enough to upgrade it to have Apple Car Play
XJR is perfect, looks great, drives brilliant, understated, comfortable and sounds like a Merlin going over Dover when it’s going for it. And everybody loves a jag
Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. I’ve owned mine for 2 completely trouble free years, and covered 20,000 miles. It’s about to go up for sale for around £35k via the Auto Lounge as I’m going to be taking delivery of a company car in a week. I cannot recommend the Alfa enough.
Focus RS MK3 And it will hold its value Ive had one 6 years bought it for 28k and just sold it last week for 31k 6 years free car onto a r8 gen 2 hoping it will hold its money similar 🙌
What about the W205 C63. Like 2015-18. I think the interiors have held up well, better* on fuel, and if you like a more dramatic sound, it’s a better shout than the W204. Anyone else agree?
Tony is right about the golf. I have the 7.5 R 3 dr with all the toys and I wouldn’t be getting the mk8. Had one and sold it after 12 months due to the interior, which until you’ve driven it at night, one word….Dangerous.
Now selling my mk8 r after almost 2 years. Only had a problem with the infotainment once, and never had any problems with the buttons. Not ideal about the temp controls but I always have it on auto. Had a new steering wheel fitted a month ago due to the travel assist sensor so couldn't use acc. Interior rattles which is very frustrating but I am a bit sad to see it go. Still a cracking car, but never drove a 7.5 R so.
@@Adambroughton29 both great cars but I prefer the 7.5 and I think the 3dr feels more sporty. I’ve had 3 golf r’s and currently my wife has the mk 7 gti with a few upgrades. That’s a very underrated car aswell.
One car you didn’t mention, Tony will HATE it but I’m seriously considering one and I think Sam will approve. 997 Carrera S, you can get a really good gen 1 for under 35k with low mileage or an engine rebuild.
As an owner of a 2018 RS3 (Facelift) your are a bit off on the values. Cars have definitely softened off. You can definitely pick up facelift cars for £35k depending on spec/mileage. All worth it for the music of that 5 cylinder.
None of the cars mentioned are close to the Macan. My first Macan S bought for £56k and sold for £45k 4 years later. I’m on my second. Great cars. 0-60 in just over 4 seconds, mid-high 20mpg on economy and very comfortable with the PASM suspension. Even sounds great with the sports exhaust. You’re welcome to test drive mine in SW London but definitely not for sale!
I’m currently looking to replace my CLA45 and looking at this sort of budget so this has been a well timed episode. I like the X3 M40i but an RS3 is tempting
Question chaps, what about the cost of touchscreens in the newer cars? Is that a possible item to discuss in a future episode? . Keep em coming lads!!!
Would love an episode of what to buy with 10k or 15k, id say theres a lot of listeners in this bracket. Down here in NZ i recently got a lovely e85 3.0i Z4 for $9k, and it seems a really nice car. Lots of us are on much smaller budgets :-)
The are fewer manuals, and fewer people that want one. It about the right proportion for the demand. Take a look on auto trader, there is a decent 981S with 53k miles, manual, price is in like or less than the pdk
Great video Sam and Tony. Me and friend at work have this conversation every day at copper mill. Sub 30k cars . And we take what super Cars at in general munch dreaming of having them
What about the Aston Martin DB9. V12 RWD GT car that still looks modern. 2004-2008 cars with moderate milage are well within budget leaving you a couple of grand for running costs.
I noticed that myself . Some of the people in this country do t even know what country they are in .😂 Those snp mugs must have won the 2014 referendum according to this learned chap .
Ford Puma ST - Aston Martin Rapide - Alpine A110 - TVR Tuscan - Audi S8 - Porsche Macan GTS - Mk8 Golf GTI - Volvo XC90 T5 or any Volvo estate seems they no longer sell them new
Another great show guys. Sadly can't fit the first tour in my diary, but like the business concept idea. If you are looking for invesment into the new business I would be very interested in having a conversation.
1. Alfa Guilia Quad 2019 2. Jag F-Type R 2016 3. Bentley Continental GT 2013 4. Porsche Boxster 718 S 2018 5. Merc C63 Amg 2018 cabriolet 6. Alfa Stelvio Quad 2020 7. Range Rover Sport SVR 2015 8. BMW M4 comp 2019 9. Audi RS5 2019 10. BMW 8 series Gran Coupe 840i 2021 all under £35k 😅 check autotrader. All under 60k miles, from recognised used car performance dealerships.
I bought A 2012 Panamera GTS about 6 months ago, it's great. Beautiful build quality in general. I have had to spend £5k on new suspension bushes (indy price), but once sorted it's a lot of car for the money and so much nicer than any other lux car of the era which seem so dated now...
A dealer doesn’t have to offer any warranty, however the customer still has comeback for 6 months during which the dealer potentially is obliged to help with any issues under consumer rights.
S63 AMG wins this by such a huge margin. Nothing comes even remotely close to daily. The objective is to get from A to B with the lowest quantity of unwanted attention, from anyone, in the greatest level of comfort. Who cares what people think it looks like! The Jag, sadly, doesn't even box in the same world.
Surprised the Cupra Ateca 2.0 300 (Golf R powered) didn’t make the list. Can pick up one with like 4K miles for 34k. They’ve dropped nicely post covid. Also kinda surprised Sam’s never had one in his channel as an option for a daily fun SUV
You can't get Lexus LC500 for £35k, most are about £43k, I would put forward the M6 Grancoupe. I think it looks fantastic, also will struggle to find a M850i for £35k. The 4.0 C63S is a good shout too.
Im an X3M40i owner, a BMW customer for nearly 20 years, 3 years in to a PCP I have always changed my car.... The dealer rang me today, as expected. But, what the fook do I buy now? Surely its best just to re-finance this amazing beast? Waaaaa
Can we have a Non-German edition of BTG. Just for a change. Reliable Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, DS, Jaguar, Volvo. A non SUV edition...Estates for the Family...Sam..?
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Bring Tony back to the main channel!!!😂
Second that!
Probably schedule issue
Bring F1 back as well, ain’t nobody got time for that other weird platform it’s on
No no no.
Bin Tony from all content.
Annoying, opinionated and biased
@@th3b0untyhunterwomp womp
Can’t believe a Jag F type 3.0 V6 S didn’t make the top 5, or even the 5.0 R, both can be bought for £35k, 3.0 more than enough for British roads and the 5.0 is a super car rival! Both surprisingly reasonable to maintain if using an independent
@behindthrglass what’s the plan for After the Checkered Flag? I wasn’t able to get on the ReCast platform, but looking forward to your content with F1 starting. Cheers!
Love the new intro! With f words and everything.
2016/ 17 Lexus GS F, 5L NA V8. It has everything, saloon cabin space, decent boot, V8 sound track, reliability factor and warranty up to 100k miles or 10 years....
Good luck finding one though
I had one until last year, but very true, only 50 odd in the UK @@ryanclarke9477
Sam - BMW 540i touring. High spec. You know it makes sense as a daily. That tailgate window opening. Pan roof version. Tell me I’m wrong, right?
There's a lot of serious enthusiast cars you can get for that money. Gen1 Audi R8 manual, B7 RS4. Many 911 and Caymans. Lotus Evora. E92 M3 manual. Alfa Guilia Q. Focus RS. That's just off the top of my head. But really, overlooking the R8 is a big oversight
I'm glad you suggested the M850i Sam. I'm actually trading in my i8 for a 2020 Dravit Grey one in the next week. Cannot wait to pick it up, I drove it and fell in love with it, especially the noise. It's a lot of car for the money. Mine is over £40k but it's a low mileage high spec example from a main dealer.
Great show! Realistic topic for the masses!
Easily the best podcast on RUclips!! Highlight of my working week listening to this 🙌🏼
We DO love you Tony!
GR SUPRA !!! Just got one 3 months ago, never fails to put a smile on my face
I would of gone for the Yaris myself but it's a 09 focus for now. Enjoy the Supra fella, used to have a Celica.. Great cars
I´ve just across these podcasts on youtube.... currently binging.. love them!!
I got a Panamera GTS (970.2) with all the right options. Love it!
Follow me Im a tech at Porsche! Porsche dealership repair and service videos!
2015? Wonder if it’s my old car
Haha. Nah it’s 2016. I’m based in the UAE!
Instead of the previous gen Civic Type R. The thinking man’s choice would be the i30N. You get 95% of the performance and is the 2nd most driver focused and track ready hot hatch after the Civic, even recent road tests prove this. More tasteful styling. Sounds better. More fun handling characteristics. Better tech. More comfortable. And is a few grand cheaper for an equivalent age/mileage car. You can even buy one brand new for that 35k budget, the new Civic is still 45/50k used.
Tour de Glass perfect 👌🏽
Some great cars you mentioned there. Not quite a family car, but reasonable milage Porsche Cayman (gen 2) would sit in that price bracket, as an alternative to BMW M2 and Toyota Supra that you mentioned.
I'd normally change my cars like my socks, but I've had my BMW 540i M Sport (18 plate) for nearly 2 years now, mainly because I cannot think of anything that can beat it in terms of space, tech, power and economy (avg 28mpg) without going into more debt to replace it. I'd probably go F90 M5 next........or un-messed with RS6. Keep up the good work chaps
I’ve got a 2018 530d and I love it, but I do wish it offered more driving involvement. It’s a big old heavy boat… I think I’ll go for something smaller next time 😊
For me the best ‘driver’s’ car for under £35k is a Lotus Evora S. I recently bought one and while it's not as versatile/practical as a hot hatch or German saloon it beats them all as a sense of occasion and for driving engagement.
The most astute comment by miles 👍 Enjoy your new car 😎
For 35k £ I'd probably go for a BMW E39 M5, it's the era you like, it's old enough to keep its value, definitely cheaper to maintain than a S-class coupe or a Bentley, it's probably one of the best looking sedans (I'd say Maserati Quattroporte 5th gen is next to it), and like it actually drives really nice, easy enough to upgrade it to have Apple Car Play
XJR is perfect, looks great, drives brilliant, understated, comfortable and sounds like a Merlin going over Dover when it’s going for it. And everybody loves a jag
Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. I’ve owned mine for 2 completely trouble free years, and covered 20,000 miles. It’s about to go up for sale for around £35k via the Auto Lounge as I’m going to be taking delivery of a company car in a week. I cannot recommend the Alfa enough.
3yrs into my Quad, zero problems here as well. In love every day.
Archie is buying up all the gems now 😂
Seeing A90 Supra's dipping to the 35k mark and below is getting super tempting.
Will you guys be doing any behind the glass episodes at Alexander's prestige again this year?
Focus RS MK3
And it will hold its value
Ive had one 6 years bought it for 28k and just sold it last week for 31k 6 years free car onto a r8 gen 2 hoping it will hold its money similar 🙌
If it’s going to make money why did you sell it?
@@Neil2022 I had it 6 years, time to move on
MK2 RS would be good bet for future prospects.
What a perfect episode to release on the day I’m planning to test drive a used Golf R 😂
981S, mid engined, high reving flat 6, just make sure it has the PSE.
Great episode, really enjoyed Tony's inside knowledge.
What about the W205 C63. Like 2015-18. I think the interiors have held up well, better* on fuel, and if you like a more dramatic sound, it’s a better shout than the W204. Anyone else agree?
‘24 C63 AMG should be 35K at the end of the year. Probably a handful in the country so unique and quite a steal for a nice 4-pot.
Very enjoyable podcast as always. Thank you very much.
Tony is right about the golf. I have the 7.5 R 3 dr with all the toys and I wouldn’t be getting the mk8. Had one and sold it after 12 months due to the interior, which until you’ve driven it at night, one word….Dangerous.
Now selling my mk8 r after almost 2 years. Only had a problem with the infotainment once, and never had any problems with the buttons. Not ideal about the temp controls but I always have it on auto. Had a new steering wheel fitted a month ago due to the travel assist sensor so couldn't use acc. Interior rattles which is very frustrating but I am a bit sad to see it go. Still a cracking car, but never drove a 7.5 R so.
@@Adambroughton29 both great cars but I prefer the 7.5 and I think the 3dr feels more sporty. I’ve had 3 golf r’s and currently my wife has the mk 7 gti with a few upgrades. That’s a very underrated car aswell.
Can you get the guy from Alexander Prestige on the podcast?
Pretty sure he was on a live podcast a few months back that was hosted there🤙🏼
His name's Andrew.
One car you didn’t mention, Tony will HATE it but I’m seriously considering one and I think Sam will approve.
997 Carrera S, you can get a really good gen 1 for under 35k with low mileage or an engine rebuild.
I've been thinking about that one for years - still haven't pulled the trigger on it :)
@@ianmason3040 me too! My dad had one when I was a kid and it’s always stuck in my head, a very special car
As an owner of a 2018 RS3 (Facelift) your are a bit off on the values. Cars have definitely softened off. You can definitely pick up facelift cars for £35k depending on spec/mileage.
All worth it for the music of that 5 cylinder.
LC500 not fast enough? Fast enough for what? How much performance do you want from a road going GT car?
Personally for 35k would go with a 7 series previous gen if you wanted luxury over the xjr and s class
not got to the end yet. But a 2019 Alpine is sub 35k now, begging that got picked up
None of the cars mentioned are close to the Macan. My first Macan S bought for £56k and sold for £45k 4 years later. I’m on my second. Great cars. 0-60 in just over 4 seconds, mid-high 20mpg on economy and very comfortable with the PASM suspension. Even sounds great with the sports exhaust. You’re welcome to test drive mine in SW London but definitely not for sale!
What are the running costs like please?
@@booboo1178 Not high. Service every couple of years cost £150-£500 depending on what’s needed. Insurance £800-£1,000 a year.
@@andrewburns3952 tempting! 🥳🏆
I concur! Awesome cars.
Sam, you need an S class coupe I’m trying to convince my dad as we speak! best value for money on the market today especially 2018 or later
Sam looking like exact replica of an Engineer from Prometheus 😁
😭😭😭
Looking forward to your tours, I will bring my C43😉
I’m currently looking to replace my CLA45 and looking at this sort of budget so this has been a well timed episode. I like the X3 M40i but an RS3 is tempting
Autotrader has just stopped me from using a price checker to monitor dodgy dealers like Baldrick here.
Question chaps, what about the cost of touchscreens in the newer cars?
Is that a possible item to discuss in a future episode?
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Keep em coming lads!!!
Best regards from Portugal.
Love Portugal
Please, you have to call it Rally something or other! Love it!
The AMG E53 coupe/cabriolet is a really overlooked car.
Would love an episode of what to buy with 10k or 15k, id say theres a lot of listeners in this bracket.
Down here in NZ i recently got a lovely e85 3.0i Z4 for $9k, and it seems a really nice car. Lots of us are on much smaller budgets :-)
What about a 981 or 718 cayman! Best sports cars available. Maybe no manuals at 35k all PDK
The are fewer manuals, and fewer people that want one. It about the right proportion for the demand. Take a look on auto trader, there is a decent 981S with 53k miles, manual, price is in like or less than the pdk
@@Jay-xr3sbwho says fewer people want manuals?
@@booboo1178 supply and demand
@@booboo1178 The fact that less than 10% are manual?
What's the issue with the C43? Seem to remember you guys saying it wasn't very good before.
Tony’s laugh is the best
I had a 2014 C63 Performance many years ago. Best sounding car I’ve ever had but you won’t get more than 19 mpg however you drive it.
Great video Sam and Tony. Me and friend at work have this conversation every day at copper mill. Sub 30k cars . And we take what super Cars at in general munch dreaming of having them
What about the Aston Martin DB9. V12 RWD GT car that still looks modern. 2004-2008 cars with moderate milage are well within budget leaving you a couple of grand for running costs.
I know the chap who owns the dealership in Wales... he is based here in Monaco and has an insane car collection
i found out just this morning on Classic FM that Charles LeClerck is quite a talented music composer
Blimey Sam your head is shiny
He’s head strong 😂
Nice that Arnold Clark have dropped down from Scotland into the UK.
😂
I noticed that myself .
Some of the people in this country do t even know what country they are in .😂
Those snp mugs must have won the 2014 referendum according to this learned chap .
Porchugal Tour. Has a great ring to it!!
Ford Puma ST - Aston Martin Rapide - Alpine A110 - TVR Tuscan - Audi S8 - Porsche Macan GTS - Mk8 Golf GTI - Volvo XC90 T5 or any Volvo estate seems they no longer sell them new
Another great show guys. Sadly can't fit the first tour in my diary, but like the business concept idea. If you are looking for invesment into the new business I would be very interested in having a conversation.
Will looking forward to new episode 👍
1. Alfa Guilia Quad 2019 2. Jag F-Type R 2016 3. Bentley Continental GT 2013 4. Porsche Boxster 718 S 2018 5. Merc C63 Amg 2018 cabriolet 6. Alfa Stelvio Quad 2020 7. Range Rover Sport SVR 2015 8. BMW M4 comp 2019 9. Audi RS5 2019 10. BMW 8 series Gran Coupe 840i 2021 all under £35k 😅 check autotrader. All under 60k miles, from recognised used car performance dealerships.
I bought A 2012 Panamera GTS about 6 months ago, it's great. Beautiful build quality in general. I have had to spend £5k on new suspension bushes (indy price), but once sorted it's a lot of car for the money and so much nicer than any other lux car of the era which seem so dated now...
5k 😭😭😭
A dealer doesn’t have to offer any warranty, however the customer still has comeback for 6 months during which the dealer potentially is obliged to help with any issues under consumer rights.
S63 AMG wins this by such a huge margin. Nothing comes even remotely close to daily. The objective is to get from A to B with the lowest quantity of unwanted attention, from anyone, in the greatest level of comfort. Who cares what people think it looks like! The Jag, sadly, doesn't even box in the same world.
BMW 3 or 5 series, Merc C or E Class, Audi A4 or A6, with 6 pots diesel or petrol…depending what you want and need gets you something nice for 35k.
Whoever commented saying in general is a legend! That’s all I hear Tony say now 😂 absolute legend!
I bought a Lexus lc last year and it’s great
Surprised the Cupra Ateca 2.0 300 (Golf R powered) didn’t make the list. Can pick up one with like 4K miles for 34k. They’ve dropped nicely post covid. Also kinda surprised Sam’s never had one in his channel as an option for a daily fun SUV
You can't get Lexus LC500 for £35k, most are about £43k, I would put forward the M6 Grancoupe. I think it looks fantastic, also will struggle to find a M850i for £35k. The 4.0 C63S is a good shout too.
Is stock watch something to promote Tony’s business or just inventory prices in general?
Merc S500 Coupe is really good shout and Lexus RC or the full RCF underrated and cool too.
if i were porsche, id make coupe version of the panamera and call it the new 928.😁
2015 RS3 for £35k where are you looking?! First one that come up on autotrader was a 69 plate for £31k!
Brilliant episode
It would be awesome to be a part of this at some point. I'll be aiming for the USA trip when it comes!
100% on the C63 6.2. Got close to a mint one at 20k and decided against it- huge mistake ..
Im an X3M40i owner, a BMW customer for nearly 20 years, 3 years in to a PCP I have always changed my car.... The dealer rang me today, as expected. But, what the fook do I buy now? Surely its best just to re-finance this amazing beast? Waaaaa
used F90 M5
Bring Tony to the main channel!!!
Old BMW iDrive, pay the £75 odd and get the real time info updated - including concierge services!
Would love to do your tour but over 1000 miles away from UK
Any itenerary to see you guys pass in northern Portugal?
2014 XKR .. also convertible?
Can't believe how much you hate the C43..... I loved mine!!
Tony.” If you shut your eyes”! Bloody hell,I could sell you a 1985 FSO if you shut your eyes!!
I'd love to come along on the tour with... ahem... my MX-5 😅 but unlikely to this year as my wife and I have a small baby.
i got my 2017 Giulia QV for around £35K - no regrets and beats the competition pound for pound, in my opinion.
is it as unreliable as they say
@@Arman-nl6mg have had it over a month and no reliability issues to speak of. Touch wood
What do you figure, 10-12K for the Portugal trip? Honestly at that money it would be a fair price.
I’ve heard on the grapevine it was 18. Pinch of salt and all that
There’s a 575 Jaguar on eBay for about 31k
Can we have a Non-German edition of BTG. Just for a change. Reliable Honda, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, DS, Jaguar, Volvo. A non SUV edition...Estates for the Family...Sam..?
interested on your thoughts for hating on the c63 ?
Anything other than older BMW they are time Bombs!!
I have a 2023 MK8 GTI and haven't had any issues with the infotainment, and the haptic buttons take getting used to is all
The new model has physical buttons, you must have a 2022 built car
Nah. It was manufactured march of 23
Boxster / Cayman 981s
Can't go wrong with a golf r. Does everything well
Just a shame they all seem to be driven by morons.
Some of these prices are way out I’ve seen the civic on a 20 plate not much over £20k not 30 plus
What do you think of an e28 535i msport