I did a repaste on my Laptop... did it make a difference?!

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  • I received my personal laptop that featured a 13900HX and an RTX 4080 Mobile... Will repasting with a higher quality thermal paste help temps on these hot parts?
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  • @R2debo_
    @R2debo_ Год назад +924

    When repairing a laptop, you should disconnect the PSU and the battery. And press power button for a few seconds, to discharge caps that still might be charged. The discharge even applies to desktops and servers. You dont wanna risk the hardware when i accidently touch a wrong component or trace.

    • @PatalJunior
      @PatalJunior Год назад +43

      True, my lenovo has a cool feature on the bios that if you activate, the computer shuts off, and fully disconnects the battery.
      Don't know how it works, but I know it's mean to be used for disassembly.
      Always cool seeing brands adding these features to aid repairs.

    • @WildRapier
      @WildRapier Год назад +31

      I was just going to say the same. Capacitors definitely charged. I've watched someone drop a mounting screw on a motherboard without dissipating the power and take it out. Screw got magnetically drawn to a coil while bouncing around. How do you miss the simple things with 25 years of XP? Jay...?

    • @justfasial01
      @justfasial01 Год назад

      Anytime you have a high capacity cap, especially in a PSU, it's connected in parallel with a resistor so as soon as the power is disconnected the cap starts discharging, it's a safety feature. You can read up on "Bleeder resistor" or "discharge resistors". So this really isn't necessary unless the manufacturer skimped on $2 worth of parts. Disconnecting the battery is all you need.

    • @Chopper153
      @Chopper153 Год назад +33

      @@WildRapier Screws got drawn to the coil because it had a ferrite core and not because current was flowing through it. Even if current was flowing, it wouldn't be attracted as it's AC.
      Also, inductors don't store any charge when switched off.

    • @BladeLuoxi
      @BladeLuoxi Год назад +3

      Anyone knows what laptop did he use? And especially what software is that? "Control center" or something?...
      Looks useful, remind me the Msi Afterburner😂... But doesn't look like from Msi, Asus, HP, or Razer software😅...

  • @Ben-Rogue
    @Ben-Rogue Год назад +462

    I'd like to see more gaming and productivity laptops that aren't so concerned about being thin and light, and are more focused on cooling, acoustics and ergonomics. If you want to use a laptop for any extended period, you need it propped up at the rear anyway, to reduce wrist fatigue and prevent it from getting too hot. Adding an extra 20-30mm of height at the rear for a large heat sink with some decent airflow would make sense for many reasons.

    • @my-yt-inputs2580
      @my-yt-inputs2580 Год назад +10

      Your comment was copied and pasted from an obvious porno spammer. A bunch of people liked that post/comment.

    • @Ben-Rogue
      @Ben-Rogue Год назад

      @@my-yt-inputs2580 I guess it was because it was an early comment... You'd reckon Google would have found a solution to the spam accounts by now.

    • @jipeh
      @jipeh Год назад +6

      Framework 16

    • @bituniverse8677
      @bituniverse8677 Год назад +6

      Those old Acer Predators man, thick boys

    • @devilfish79
      @devilfish79 Год назад +1

      Eluktronics has a water-cooled gaming laptop that's not worried about being thin and light. Not sure how well they function. Maybe Jay can do a review of that models performance.

  • @ScullyBrewing
    @ScullyBrewing Год назад +106

    I re-pasted my XPS 15 7590 the other day with Noctua NTH-1. It's a 4 year old laptop and the paste was crispy upon opening it up. I did see a couple hundred points improvement in cinebench.
    It was able to hold clocks higher for longer at the start of the run and max temps came down 10c on average across all cores.
    Definitely worth doing as now I can look into setting a quieter fan curve

    • @handyandqu
      @handyandqu Год назад +2

      Both Dell laptops I've changed past out to that noctua have see upwards of high single digit to doubly digit improvements, brand new within the first week of owning it. Appalling how bad the past or application they have is. Nice thing is make it easy to access so it's like 10-20 min max and you just gained substantial performance increase. Infuriating that it needs to be done out of the box though. Like really? Yhe tenths of pennies that were cheaped out on.

    • @TimberWulfIsHere
      @TimberWulfIsHere Год назад

      Issue with nth1 is that the paste breaks apart overtime on laptops and falls to the side. Doesn't have that issue in desktop applications but.

    • @ScullyBrewing
      @ScullyBrewing Год назад

      @@artvandelay9131 No they seemed fine, werent dried out or anything and my temps on other components were within spec so I didnt bother. I was mainly interested in lowering the CPU/GPU temps so that I could reduce fan noise on the cooler.

  • @PottsieVol
    @PottsieVol Год назад +52

    Just did this with the Dell Inspiron 1564 I used back in college in 2011. Cpu temp dropped 20c. I also swapped to a ssd using your videos and added another stick of ram. Runs surprisingly well for its age!

  • @marledanimefan7186
    @marledanimefan7186 Год назад +40

    Nice ! I used my non working laptop as a guinea pig. I opened it, repasted and cleaned the fan a bit and after i put it together it worked again. That gave me the confidence to build my own pc so i dont have to bother with repasting a laptop again.

    • @daniel_rossy_explica
      @daniel_rossy_explica Год назад +4

      I'm quite the reverse. I have years of building, dis assembling and reasambling PCs, but I don't want to even touch a laptop since I see it as a sealead box.

    • @IzanaKunigiri
      @IzanaKunigiri 3 месяца назад

      ​@@daniel_rossy_explicaDepending on the laptop, they can be a dream to work in or utter hell to work in. Things like the Alienware machines of recent years are an absolute headache if you don't like the process as the cooler is UNDERNEATHE and attached to the motherboard, Whereas things like Lenovo's X1 Carbon are an absolute Dream to work on with the cooler being a SUPER EASY replacement (4-6 screws and 1 plug after the bottom panel, Thats it. OFC after unplugging or removing Battery if you worry about that.) both Dell and Lenovo in particular put their service manuals online for the public. Dell calls them Service guides (Or in some cases it's merged with the User Manual) and Lenovo calls them Hardware Maintenence Manual, Both of which give a real good idea how complicated it is for your particular machine model.
      I used to do In-Warranty repair for Dell and Lenovo Machines for a living.

  • @fordsrevive
    @fordsrevive Год назад +62

    I've owned several gaming laptops. One thing I've learned for sure is you CAN always do a better thermal paste job than the factory. I've always dropped them by a few degrees by doing a thermal paste swap right from new.

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think most of the time OEMs will favout long-term consistency over raw performance, so as long as you're willing to stay on top of it, there's performance to be had.

    • @jollygrapefruit786
      @jollygrapefruit786 8 месяцев назад +1

      I have a delta 15 MSI laptop, and I replaced my thermal paste today. It was annoying as hell because the motherboard was upside down, so I had to take the entire MB out to access the heat sink. Definitely watching a tear down on my next laptop to avoid that.

    • @deher9110
      @deher9110 7 месяцев назад +1

      nah cuz some actually use ptm7950

    • @spudtsar9377
      @spudtsar9377 5 месяцев назад +1

      Same. Had an Acer Predator 300 with a GTX 1060. I cleaned out the factory paste, put on some decent quality stuff and lowered overall temps by noticeable tens of degrees.

    • @dharshdanube6911
      @dharshdanube6911 5 месяцев назад

      @@spudtsar9377 what do you think are the best thermal pastes for laptop(mine gets to 90 cel easily while playing games)

  • @puneetarora1714
    @puneetarora1714 Год назад +11

    You guys should have shown the second part on video where jay applied thermal paste on the memory chips, regular repasting is common now for the viewers of this channel, how to do it on memory chips is something I would definetly try now

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281
    @watercannonscollaboration2281 Год назад +94

    You should try using some phase-change material next time, like Honeywell’s PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer and performs in my experience even better than pastes like GC Extreme, KPX, and MX-5. Lenovo actually uses it on their newer (I think 2022 and after) Legions and it’s so good it’s actually a bad idea to repaste those laptops

    • @themadatheist1976
      @themadatheist1976 Год назад +6

      Did that to my 10 gen MSI GL65 with K5 Pro on the stuff, pretty good stuff. I think that what MSI came with stock.

    • @HiPickle
      @HiPickle 10 месяцев назад

      It seems like that's what they were using on the memory

    • @samimsamet8354
      @samimsamet8354 10 месяцев назад

      I have a problem. I have a Gigabyte Aorus model laptop. I first tried Kyronaut and then MX6, but the CPU does not go below 90 degrees, what should I do?

    • @hyedefinition1080
      @hyedefinition1080 10 месяцев назад

      @@samimsamet8354 don't use Kyronaut. Use a thicker paste like a CoolerMaster Maker, GC extreme, or Honeywell pads...

    • @julianboyd8719
      @julianboyd8719 9 месяцев назад

      @@samimsamet8354 clean out the fans, keep it elevated and undervolt if it's an Intel CPU.

  • @TheGameBench
    @TheGameBench Год назад +82

    I'd be tempted to try PTM 7950. Performs better than paste, but doesn't have the risks of LM and the copper won't absorb the PTM like it does gallium.

    • @kgt8742
      @kgt8742 Год назад +8

      I already tried it on my office laptop. It's way better and lasts longer than normal thermal paste. It also doesn't get pushed out by pressure as much as thermal paste when the heatsink is expanding due to heat.

    • @osamabinlaggin69
      @osamabinlaggin69 Год назад +6

      I use it on my matebook 13, improved temps considerably and doesn't get pushed out like some pastes do.

    • @thefeaj
      @thefeaj Год назад +4

      i use this on my ga,me laptop 12700h and 3080, both dont go over 68c during gaming

    • @Jimmys_TheBestCop
      @Jimmys_TheBestCop Год назад

      I 100% agree. Also with gaming laptops with aluminum bottom cases you just need to make thermal contact between the heat pipes and the bottom case either with honeywell ptm 7950 or thermal putty depending on distance. Creating a much larger heat sink which you can either custom build dock or buy one for pretty cheap that can cool the entire thing while making almost 0 noise.

    • @Kirsutan
      @Kirsutan Год назад

      Exactly, normal paste pumps out pretty fast on bare dies like laptops and GPU's.

  • @JohnAlzayat
    @JohnAlzayat Год назад +14

    Jay reminding me I need to repaste my laptop for the like 5th time lol

  • @prarmageddon
    @prarmageddon Год назад +108

    You should use ptm7950 and thermal putty like upsiren on all other components instead of thermal pads, especially since you didn't know stock thermalpad thickness. Btw on gpu memory chips manufacturer used thermal putty by the looks of it.

    • @soulsilver6799
      @soulsilver6799 Год назад +5

      UP. I hope jayz sees this

    • @martinMVG
      @martinMVG Год назад +14

      This would make a good video, I've used ptm7950 for my cpu, gpu and my laptop and all of them now have lower temperatures. It's not as good as liquid metal but its hell of a lot safer.

    • @TigTex
      @TigTex Год назад +12

      Yeah, the improvement Jay saw is probably because the vrams are unable to dissipate their heat efficiently, causing the rest of the laptop to run a little bit cooler. It's perfect to kill the VRAM. I bet that thermal paste will last a couple of months, tops. PTM7950 + K5 pro is the way to go

    • @tecnosalva14
      @tecnosalva14 Год назад +12

      @@TigTex instead of K5 use Upsiren Ux Pro. Doesn't leave oil residue, reusable, much easier to clean. laso K5 seems to boil at high temp, so not really good for laptop

    • @harrydijkstra9936
      @harrydijkstra9936 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@tecnosalva14 K5 Pro is trash, seen many user "improvements" with that stuff. PCB's covered in outgassed silicone and isolating air bubbles where the putty should be.

  • @markjakobsen1334
    @markjakobsen1334 Год назад +7

    Put liquid metal in mine and it helped a little bit. Undervolted the GPU and it made a MASSIVE difference.

  • @ssfdre38
    @ssfdre38 Год назад +5

    I have a gaming laptop as well and what I do as well is also lift the back of the laptop with my old switch case and it helps to get more airflow in the laptop and bring the temps down. You should try it and if it helps with your laptop, maybe print a small bracket for it that you can keep in your bag

  • @Code_String
    @Code_String Год назад +13

    I'd avoid liquid metal. While on paper it can be pretty good, you'd have to apply a very small amount and make sure you get decent contact to eliminate the risk of something going wrong. Honeywell's PTM7950 is an overall better choice for both performance and hardware safety reasons. I've repasted two ROG G15AEs so far with PTM7950 for the dies and Upsiren UX Ultra Pro for the other chips and the results have been impressive. The stock liquid metal in those units' atrocious.

    • @DoctorHitman
      @DoctorHitman 9 месяцев назад

      I have an ROG g15AE. thank you for this man.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 7 месяцев назад

      is it a pad or a paste? im trying to get some and its hard to trust any of the sellers on amazon

  • @ProfessorTee
    @ProfessorTee Год назад +5

    Just reminds me of the old laptop of my wife, desktop ryzen 1700 and a 580 in a case that seemed to be like 3 laptops, but the way it was designed nearly allowed 0 fresh air intake, so i got me a dremel 😂

  • @RGReviews10X
    @RGReviews10X Год назад +3

    When I repasted my laptop I used K5 thick thermal paste for the VRAM and spots there was pads. Works great.

  • @danteshier5214
    @danteshier5214 Год назад +4

    I got an older PC, Digital Storm Equinox from I think 6 years ago maybe 5. I recently re-pasted it. Before I had to run it with a heavy under-volt to keep it cool even at idle. Now it runs fine at stock speeds. I think it was idle at 70C before or something, and now its idle at high 30 to low 40s Very happy with it. Oddly enough the old paste wasn't that dried out and had a good spread.

    • @user-jd7gh2ef4s
      @user-jd7gh2ef4s Год назад +1

      Yes, especially with older notebooks, it's worth to repaste CPU and GPU chips, it significantly reduces noise level. I had a very loudly 2nd hand notebook, reopened it, and found out that the paste was completely removed 🙈After repasting, the thing got silent. Notebook are are a nightmare in this regard, because you need to disassamble the whole thing to get access to the CPU or graphic chip. Those devices should really have a better design in this regard.

  • @jjann54321
    @jjann54321 Год назад +2

    I can't tell you how many "almost broken" laptops I have *fixed* just by cleaning the fan, intake/exhaust and repasting the CPU (and GPU if applicable). I would say that 75% of the time the reaction is, "this runs almost like it's new again." I always encourage them to use their laptop on a hard, flat surface and NOT a blanket, but no on ever listens. Oh, and when your laptop smells like "burning skin", it is, *burning skin* (cells) and hair. Yum.

  • @Im_bored_very_very_bored
    @Im_bored_very_very_bored Год назад +9

    I never knew you could repaste a laptop great job! Jay!

    • @teke2839
      @teke2839 Год назад +5

      That would be some Apple MacBook stuff
      As if you couldnt change the thermal paste on a laptop, that would reduce its life a lot

    • @jasonnemeck7351
      @jasonnemeck7351 Год назад

      You can repaste any CPU or GPU. But, you have to get the quantity right and in the right places. Ryzen is different than Intel.

  • @HaPKoMaTo3
    @HaPKoMaTo3 Год назад +43

    On old laptops changing your HDD to SSD and changing paste makes HUGE difference.

    • @raifthemad
      @raifthemad Год назад

      Mostly thanx to windows bloat. Back when win10 came out, it booted and operated pretty fast even from hdd's but a year or two of updates, and it moves at a snails pace on those.

    • @fissavids8767
      @fissavids8767 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@raifthemadnot true. It's because hdd's were never meant to be carried around and they would all get damaged. Writing an image of the old hdd to an SSD would result in the same performance jump. Source: I revived many laptops

    • @raifthemad
      @raifthemad 11 месяцев назад

      @@fissavids8767 All I was saying, is that when win10 came out, it booted and worked pretty fast even on hdd's. And after years of updates, windows has become so bloated, that hdd's are a very slow option for that os now.
      I know. I fix electronics and back when first versions of win10 came out and were installed on machines with hdd's, they loaded stuff at ok speeds. But after a few years of updates, even installing fresh windows 10 on a new hdd has horrendous loading times. I never claimed, that windows was ever as fast on hdd's as it is on sdd's. I don't know where you got that from.

  • @user-qx3km6wp1p
    @user-qx3km6wp1p Год назад +2

    Do not change liquid thermal pads for video memory to thermal paste! Never do this. Due to high temperatures, the thermal paste is squeezed out over time and a terrible overheating of the video memory begins. After that, the video memory fails.

  • @oappi4686
    @oappi4686 Год назад +3

    yea I think Jay made good call not putting liquid metal there. I put on mine, and sealed it with Scotch Super 33+ electric tape which worked perfectly, but my cpu &gpu blocks were a lot smaller.

  • @kalmtraveler
    @kalmtraveler Год назад +3

    Just my experience from corporate hardware days... when you buy a new off-the-shelf kind of laptop really anywhere, there's a chance that it was assembled quite a while ago and was just sitting around either in a warehouse or store shelf and the thermal paste may have already dried out. Every corporate Dell laptop I've had was in this same boat - the fans would run nonstop because the thermal paste was already totally dried out by the time it was deployed to me. Repasting them made them behave as expected - fans off/silent unless being hit by a high load. I've also seen that on both my Razer laptops.

  • @8eSix
    @8eSix Год назад +2

    Haven't watched yet, but It will definitely make a difference on an older laptop. I did this on my old asus gaming laptop and the difference was huge

  • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
    @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Год назад +1

    at his age, Jay looks like that cool uncle you see in thanksgiving dinner that is getting too old to be a gamer, but you still enjoy talking to him.

    • @emilefragz1885
      @emilefragz1885 Год назад +1

      Who decides when you have to stop doing things?

    • @glebglub
      @glebglub Год назад

      @@emilefragz1885 Mr. Arth Ritis

    • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
      @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Год назад

      @@emilefragz1885 I would say, the question is the opposite, who/what drives people to continue way after their prime? I would say in the case of Jay is their ego. just ask yourself, if you had a teenager learning computers, would you want that kid to hang out with a mid-40s all gray head dude?

    • @emilefragz1885
      @emilefragz1885 Год назад

      @@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Strawman

    • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
      @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Год назад

      @@emilefragz1885 someone has to say the truth, even if it hurts. in this case, it is me. lets start the GoFundMe page for Jay to retire! wait, no! he must be making ton of money out of teenagers learning to put a computer together.

  • @colestowing8695
    @colestowing8695 Год назад

    RUclipsrs in 2016..."only use a small grain of rice of paste". RUclipsrs now..."slather it on like you're icing a cake!"

  • @cassiohui
    @cassiohui Год назад +1

    I recently learnt about thermal putty as a thermal pad replacement, seems to work pretty good.

  • @stasylumbassist1
    @stasylumbassist1 11 месяцев назад +1

    "My wife didnt feel like driving to LA" oh the things we do for love 😂

  • @jasonh4534
    @jasonh4534 Год назад +1

    Isn’t Liquid Metal also more reactive with non-plated copper… So it “dries out” quicker from the added reaction between the metals.
    It also pits the plain copper more as well.
    Personally I wouldn’t use Liquid Metal in that situation.
    I reposted my laptop with MX5, it worked well, but it only lasted 6 months. It dried out, and temps went crazy; probably why it was replaced with MX6 after such a short time on the market.
    Currently using Thermal Grizzly, and it helped a lot. I have had good results from it on my desktops, as well as IC Diamond paste.

  • @ValerieNC77
    @ValerieNC77 Год назад +3

    Should def try Honeywells PTM7950 pad. I did that with my laptop and it worked better than thermal paste.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Год назад +1

      Yup seems odd seeing people still pushing paste for this. Once you go PTM 7950...thats it.

  • @Dundee.
    @Dundee. Год назад

    6:52... now i have got to fucken replace those 😂 good to know Jay is like the rest of us

  • @John-gm8ty
    @John-gm8ty Год назад

    watches jay apply a whole tube of thermal paste.. GOD DAMN IT JAY!

  • @TRC98
    @TRC98 Год назад +1

    ive repasted all the GPUs and laptops ive ever owned and its always made a huge difference on temps and acoustics

  • @chrisschembari2486
    @chrisschembari2486 Год назад

    7:38 ah, yes. The famous science fiction concept of gray boogers from a paper clip maximizer. 😂
    (It's actually called "gray goo".)

  • @Vityaf
    @Vityaf Год назад +1

    From my experience, 40 series cards in laptops are quite cool. I have an MSI laptop with 4090 and it gets maximum to 70 degrees. The CPU is the main issue. I have 13900h, on full load it gets up to 4.8 Ghz and throttles down heating up to 95 degrees. So the solution I found is in decreasing the clock speeds in bios to 4.2 Ghz and undervolting it a bit, so now my system is running at 70 degrees.

  • @J0ttaD
    @J0ttaD Год назад +2

    Just dont put too much liquid metal and it wont drip. My old tower pc never dripped had it for 6 years with liquid metal on. Thing is vertical all its life and never had problems and pretty sure liquid metal kinda solidifies. Just bc ps5 had liquid metal problems dont let it p*ssy out. Put liquid metal Jay.

  • @Ghazanfierce
    @Ghazanfierce 7 месяцев назад

    11:00 is Nobody going to ask Why do YOU have Nail polish?? 😂

  • @GeoShifter
    @GeoShifter 9 месяцев назад +11

    You should have removed the fans and remove the dust that is in between the fan and heatsink. Usually that's the reason for bad cooling. I have been fixing laptops for over 15 years, much experience :)

    • @retikulum
      @retikulum 7 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly. Whenever my laptop gets loud, I dust off the fans and heatsinks and they go back to normal volume.

  • @Tobsen179
    @Tobsen179 Год назад +13

    Interesting video, Jay & Team! Could you maybe test the Thermal Grizzly Kryosheets in the laptop. Should be very interesting, since it's a non-liquid solution that should come close to LM

    • @CMan-602
      @CMan-602 Год назад

      I would also love to see additional thermal testing using alternate pastes, sheets, etc.

  • @H4kkk0
    @H4kkk0 Год назад +1

    And here I am debating if I should change my thermal paste on my 15 year old CPU 💀

  • @user-hr4hu8xb5f
    @user-hr4hu8xb5f Год назад +1

    Just use honeywell 7950 instead, performance is closed to liquid metal and has way better longevity than normal paste.

  • @TheBackyardChemist
    @TheBackyardChemist Год назад +1

    That was thermal putty not pads, originally. You should ask Falcon Northwest what the nominal gap that needs to be filled is, and choose a thermal pad based on that.

  • @davidlavers5928
    @davidlavers5928 Год назад +1

    Non Conductive Thermal Paste brought my Laptop 3D Mark Timespy score up a 1000 points. It's great to see the results in a benchmark.

  • @travisdonotsuscribegototjs9323

    also i assume you would have headphones as well with this laptop and pissing off the other ppl in starbucks with your noise lol

  • @benarcher45
    @benarcher45 Год назад +1

    Why not just use the Kingpin thermal paste as calking around the die to keep the liquid metal in? Wouldn't the liquid metal eat away at the copper heat spreader?

  • @lukev9335
    @lukev9335 Год назад +4

    It would be awsome to see how it will run with the new KryoSheet thermal pads from Thermal Grizzly. Those pads are made in graphene and since they are electrically conductive (but won't spread as liquid metal obviously) it would be intresting how they compare against a good thermal paste like that one that you put there.

    • @mattparsons946
      @mattparsons946 Год назад

      Just used that in my water blocks for both cpu and gpu. I’m impressed with the results so far.

  • @matheusduarte6410
    @matheusduarte6410 Год назад +1

    I have an old gaming laptop (i5-8400H and a 1050) that i mainly use as a console for my tv to play stuff like GTA5 and rocket league. What ive noticed that changed dramatically the temperatures was limiting the cpu frequency. By default it boosts up to 4.20 GHz (which of course generates a lot of heat 90-100 degrees). What i did was locking the maximum speeds at 3.0 GHz using a program called quickcpu (there might be better programs i just know this one for now). Now i range a max 70-80 degrees with a not significant performance loss. Ive noticed that my GPU doesnt get as hot as the CPU so i didnt touched anything with it. For you in that case with a 13900HX is to lock it at 4.50 GHz and see if the temperature drops and your performance is good enough. Repasting is a good step but it only will get you so far (I still recommend you to do it every year + replacing any thermal pads and a fan cleaning!).

  • @JayEmTee85
    @JayEmTee85 Год назад

    Disassembles heatsink. Sees paste used on vram. Decides pads would be better. Discovers pads aren’t better. Refreshes paste on vram. 😂

  • @churro6160
    @churro6160 Год назад

    pro tip
    use plastigauge to measure the clearance for the ram when you want to use thermal pads. Plastigauge is the proven tool when measuring clearances for engine moving parts like camshafts and crankshafts.
    I think you know this already but for those of you that don't here ya go, go get the most accurate cooling pad measurements and enjoy 😎

  • @krypton1260
    @krypton1260 Год назад +1

    I repasted my laptop in hopes of getting the temps down. All that ended up happening was that the CPU got higher boost clocks/longer boost. Temps remained the same. Turns out the AM5 CPU boosts until it hits the APU thermal limit, which was set at 92°C or close to that by default.

  • @Serachja
    @Serachja Год назад +1

    On my old notebook I put LiquidMetla without any safety-measures and I've been lucky, the notebook is still running and it must be almost 10 years old (I obviously don't use the notebook frequently anymore due to the low performance compared to modern Hardware)

  • @patrickcarrillo714
    @patrickcarrillo714 Год назад

    Laptop repair is my bread and butter as an IT technician swollen batteries being the most common issue for the Dell 5280 laptops that I service on a daily basis

  • @dextrodemon
    @dextrodemon Год назад +1

    you can just use normal thermal paste to make a "moat" around liquid metal

  • @kanshashiteiru6552
    @kanshashiteiru6552 Год назад +1

    Do u know how u kill a laptop u saved 2 years for it? Wear a metallic wristwatch 😩. It looks like im gunna wait 2 extra years to get a new one.

  • @mikes2381
    @mikes2381 Год назад +1

    I've never really understood why people are concerned about putting liquid metal on a laptop for the fears of the TIM running out of the interface. Is it a concern? Sure. Is it more of a concern than on a *Desktop where the CPU to cooler interface is **always** vertical* ? I really doubt it. Laptops spend most of their time flat or flat-ish, where the LM isn't even being pulled by gravity and this is the only time when a laptop is ever hot and the LM has a higher likelihood of flowing. But in a desktop it goes through many heating and cooling cycles while staying vertical and gravity always pulling the TIM down. It just makes no sense to me. And if someone thinks that the different sides that one would put their laptop on is the issue, the TIM has to *travel* from one side to another in order to pool up and drip off. This requires time and is helped by temperature and if it didn't drip off one side, it isn't going to run and drip off another. This argument just doesn't make sense to me given that everyone thinks it's fine for desktops.
    Edit: Would masking tape be enough to stop the LM if it did drip out? Or a thin layer of hot melt glue. I haven't tried hot glue vs LM.

  • @MrMarrok657
    @MrMarrok657 Год назад +5

    I used to work for a company that applied parts to PCB’s, was a solder tech and did conformal coating. was a fun gig.

  • @johndoe-vm4ps
    @johndoe-vm4ps Год назад +2

    Delid the CPU !

    • @Randy-nb6fw
      @Randy-nb6fw 2 месяца назад

      laptop cpu not have lid

  • @FlyboyHelosim
    @FlyboyHelosim Год назад

    He says the laptop is designed with serviceability in mind as he tediously removes like 16 screws from the bottom cover. LOL

  • @WBPayne
    @WBPayne Год назад +1

    I started watching this channel because of all the fun you guys used to have experimenting and water cooling with dry ice/beer etc. While I'm sure there are a few who are informed per episode lately, I find myself thinking this doesn't pertain to me like 99% of the time.

  • @GamingOnArc
    @GamingOnArc Год назад

    "Repasting the thermal paste"...lol Im going to have to try putting new thermal paste on my thermal paste.

  • @evgueniylivramento7556
    @evgueniylivramento7556 Год назад

    Only your intro allready makes my day Jay!!!

  • @FakeJeep
    @FakeJeep Год назад +1

    13 Jay... 13.... THIRTEEN JAY.
    Dear lord I cringed so hard.

  • @randomnachomuchacho7168
    @randomnachomuchacho7168 Год назад +1

    Wish they built laptops a little chonkier so we could fit thicker cooling fin stacks in them. no one ever puts gaming laptops in their lap anyways. I feel like there's like some lobying towards making them thin so you have to buy a fan stand.

  • @Mrparkdog1
    @Mrparkdog1 Год назад

    Gorta say those be quiet fans are nice they have always been good performers while staying quiet might have to get some

  • @llloyd4
    @llloyd4 Год назад

    My own lappy was running way hot, even after repasting, what finally fixed it was hacking the registry to enable the Power Options so I could set the CPU boosting from Extreme, which is good for desktops and their beefier cooling solutions, to something more in keeping with a lappy's cooling solution and it dropped the temps down into the 60s from the 90s. >.

  • @Skitzotech
    @Skitzotech Год назад

    Make the liquid metal "mote / dam" out of thermal pads... Cut them to shape... squish them down with mounting pressure. Test it with plexiglass and water.

  • @Mr.Morden
    @Mr.Morden Год назад +4

    0:07 Wouldn't it make more sense to have a 6 core CPU with the laptop 4080? That'd give the heat pipes more focus on the GPU where the performance is really needed.

    • @rysterstech
      @rysterstech Год назад +1

      Those often have much lower boost speeds which hampers the gaming performance, and as far as i know you cannot get a 6 core intel mobile (or desktop) chip that is overclockable.

  • @AlexBoneChannel
    @AlexBoneChannel Год назад +2

    Nice laptop jay!

  • @mastermind6000
    @mastermind6000 Год назад

    A true professional always applies their thermal paste like a peanut butter sandwich.

  • @longbow192
    @longbow192 Год назад

    I recently repasted and re-padded my laptop, using Grizzly Kryonaut something-or-another, got the thickness of the pads right, the cooler plate made nice pressure, not too much, not too little.
    Against my nature, I didn't really take the time to record some before-temps. After all was said and done, I got 40-45 idle, which gave me pause, but nothing over 60 under load, and I've run some CPU-intensive games.
    The fans were much quieter, and the part of the housing above the radiator hasn't been abnormally hot since, so I guess I did a good job. I should probably mention the laptop is an Acer with a 7th Gen i5 performance spec CPU.

  • @benefitthirteen
    @benefitthirteen Год назад

    All of this would be so much easier if manufacturers would provide information on the thermal pads they use in their products.

  • @OmegaBlack999
    @OmegaBlack999 Год назад

    Thermal Grizzly sells the circuit protector. I'm surprised Roman hasn't sent you any.
    Thanks, Jay!!
    Love you!!

  • @dickslinger9925
    @dickslinger9925 Год назад +1

    Laptops would seem like the best candidate for the new "Honeywell PTM 7950" thermal pads because of the high thermals involved.

  • @AzeroxDoomraider
    @AzeroxDoomraider Год назад

    Imo its even worth it when you receive it brand new. Them seem to use bad quality to cut some cost. They dont care much if your laptop/gpu/etc becomes slower /hotter in a year. Most people dont even notice it so its no problem. I use putty (upsiren ux pro) to replace pads and tfx for cpu/gpu, imo best combo for low temps.

  • @kimoosaw
    @kimoosaw Год назад

    The thing on the Vram is thermal foam
    Its like a thermal paste that expands just like a foam

  • @rysterstech
    @rysterstech Год назад

    That laptop is definitely a Clevo design, i have a clevo 17 inch beast from 2008 that has those same red stickers with the date everywhere. Repasting a laptop is one of the best things you can do to keep it alive longer and make it faster
    I repasted my Dell E5430 laptop from 2012 with NT-H2 and I saw a 30 degree drop in CPU temps from 105C and thermal throttling down to 70 at the full clockspeed with no throttling, both tests were at full fan speed with an i5 3320m, a 35W TDP chip in a laptop. Ive since swapped in the a 45W quad core i7 chip which this machine never shipped with, and it never breaks 100C at full load in prime95. A 10$ repaste is so worth it to improve the performance of these old laptops, especially the old dell latitudes as they are built like tanks and seem to last forever.

  • @JR-uy2nd
    @JR-uy2nd 10 месяцев назад

    73 during a stress test on a laptop? Not bad? That's the coldest laptop I ever saw

  • @little_fluffy_clouds
    @little_fluffy_clouds 11 месяцев назад

    Using a Lenovo Legion 7i Pro myself, with a 13900HX and RTX 4080. It comes with a vapour chamber cooler and liquid metal out of the factory and it's great. It's runs silently in 'quiet mode' with still enough horsepower to run AAA games at 60+ FPS using high/ultra settings.

  • @Mutation80
    @Mutation80 Год назад +1

    it's a 2 degree difference😂 Don't try to make it nicer than it is Jay 🤪

  • @BluntJoint
    @BluntJoint Год назад

    Sick video big DaWg. Keep em coming, I like these kind of vids, I have a 3050ti in my laptop and it's sweet to see what others are capable of

  • @MrDoyle-ky4he
    @MrDoyle-ky4he 11 месяцев назад

    I had an old laptop that I used for years, and it ran hot as hell. Never knew anything about computers back then. Decided to pull it from storage and clean it while also replacing all thermal paste. The old paste was POWDER. When I put the new paste in, thing ran as quiet as the day I got it. 1050ti + i7-10700 that makes a fantastic emulator box.

  • @DjVortex-w
    @DjVortex-w Год назад +1

    If it ain't broken, fix it until it is.

  • @DaveSimonH
    @DaveSimonH Год назад +1

    Would be interesting to see a part 2 where you attempt to undervolt and see if that improves performance. Same clocks at lower temps, or higher clocks at same temperature.

  • @epvlok1573
    @epvlok1573 7 месяцев назад +1

    What control center are you using and where can I download it?? O and a happy new year to you!!!

  • @Nevakonaza.
    @Nevakonaza. Год назад

    Not going to lie, Its refreshing to see a modern laptop that you can simply unscrew and take off the back cover and have easily accessible items you can change out or for maintenance :)

    • @jasonnemeck7351
      @jasonnemeck7351 Год назад +1

      Most of the modern ones are like this. I repair laptops every day. WAY better than the old days. Unless there's the little X-Files guy on the back. Then it's harder.

    • @Nevakonaza.
      @Nevakonaza. Год назад

      @@jasonnemeck7351 is that just gaming ones or cheaper units, because the majority of modern cheaper units tend to have those nasty plastic clips all around that make it 5x hard than it needs to be.

  • @majinvegetaPS3
    @majinvegetaPS3 Год назад

    oh man, that noise reminded me of the times when I had a MacBook Pro with Intel inside. Slow and noisy. Imagine having to deal with that for 8 hours a day, it got so bad I had to buy noise cancelling headphones just to get some peace. Then I jumped onto the MacBook Pro with Apple Silicone, best move ever. I have owned it for about an year now, not once have I heard the fan. I haven't heard the fan, period. The performance is insane, and I don't have to sacrifice anything to get it. So funny, software company makes moves and does it better than the top performer in the industry, Intel. I hope they learn their lesson.
    And honestly I don't see the point in not having Unified CPU/GPU/Memory. Its already baked into the board (except memory) on laptops, you can't argue you're going to desolder the CPU/GPU and upgrade a laptop. And if you spill coffee on that laptop, you'll have to replace the board anyways which has the baked in GPU/CPU. You might as well unify it, like Apple, and create something that performs faster, reduce the chip size and get cooler laptops. That noise is just unbearable.
    For gaming I ended up building my own desktop PC, laptops just suck.

  • @ThaBossHogg
    @ThaBossHogg Год назад

    i'm no electronics wizard, BUUUUTTTT, your always working on sensitive electronics and never shown wearing a grounding strap. Is it safe to work in that environment that way? I do like the videos though, i've learned lots thanks to you!

  • @kjn1877
    @kjn1877 Год назад

    Jay I could suggest you two solutions to solve your thermal issues and concerns. The first thing rather then using thermal pads you can use a product called k5 pro it’s the viscous thermal paste like the style you removed before attempting using thermal pad. It’s what I use daily in my profession. The second thing is to solve your concern around Liquid Metal. I am a microsolderist by trade and what I would suggest is using UV soldering mask and a UV lamp to cure I use it for repairing damaged traces when running jumper wire on PCB’s. You could cover the surrounding components you have concern about and use a UV lamp to cure it. Once it’s hard it’s protected and even if Liquid Metal gets on it nothing conducive would happen. And if you have concerns about the application you can reverse the process with heat from a hot air station to remove the soldering mask. Don’t worry the operating temperatures will not liquefy the UV soldering mask

  • @gohan20
    @gohan20 Год назад

    Imagine leaving the hair dressers to go to starbucks and you constantly hear that blow dryer sound, as if it's haunting you

  • @ZeyadMuhyeddeen
    @ZeyadMuhyeddeen Год назад +2

    I can imagine how tough it is to come up with content for all us banan heads but this one.... This one right here is what we need ❤

  • @Flakwell
    @Flakwell Год назад

    +100 husband points for jay, waiting the 4hrs

  • @TristynRusselo
    @TristynRusselo 11 месяцев назад

    'RTV gasket maker' makes a good moat or gasket.

  • @richardsheriff2330
    @richardsheriff2330 Год назад +4

    Jay - another thermal video on a gpu so viewers can get the most out of the hardware they have . Awesome vids as always !!

  • @greenmachine6672
    @greenmachine6672 4 месяца назад

    Seriously, who gives a crap about benchmarks when people have issues when they first build their computers or their laptops crashing after game is loaded or midway through the game that’s the issues and problems we are looking for in the beginning. You were very helpful when it came to building a computer now it’s like some weird stuff that nobody cares about.

  • @thewhiteknight9923
    @thewhiteknight9923 Год назад

    3:58 he loves her to bits but my god did he not wanna go💀

  • @thanos879
    @thanos879 Год назад +1

    I was literally just thinking about this today and researching whether I should do this to mine.

  • @Sorjal
    @Sorjal Год назад

    If you want to go the liquid metal route you might be able to put a thin bead of say black rtv sealant around it. That should prevent the liquid metal from getting anywhere else, but it would make future disassembly more difficult as you’d likely have to use something to “cut” the sealant like thin wire, fishing line, or something scalpel like to be able to reach in far enough. Just pulling it off would likely kill the cooler as they tend to bend very easily.

  • @user-uu9up5fe5t
    @user-uu9up5fe5t Год назад +1

    u could use thermal putty it is thicker and fill perfectly fine to the height, since its like thermal paste & thermal pad (asus likes to use it & might also was used in this laptop but it looked unusually dry), also it should be fine for VRAM or VRM cooling.

  • @albertwesker828
    @albertwesker828 Год назад

    I'm kind of a noob on this stuff, so I've never seen the thermal paste on VRAM trick. Well done!

  • @Novskyy621
    @Novskyy621 9 месяцев назад

    I love how every windows laptop manufacturer seems to not even being able to make the heatsinks create proper contact to the cpu and gpu