Beautiful job looks cool but I don’t see the purpose except aesthetics. I thought the purpose of the safety wire was to prevent the nuts or bolts to keep from coming loose. Looks like you went through the ends of studs not nuts. ??? Just curious
eventho its not going thru any holes... i think its better that the safety wire u do it closer to the nut itself... aint it supposed to b safety wire fornthe nuts so that it wouldnt get loose n fall out? correct me if im wrong
Great Video 👍🏽 I have that tool from dirt biking to safety tie my grips. It helps on muddy days so it doesn’t move around and helps if you go down from getting mud in between your grips. I’m going to try this on my SF, I’ll probably wire it counterclockwise though. Looks good too 👍🏽 take care
Hmmm... safety wire really does nothing unless it passes through drilled bolt heads. Might I suggest googling & downloading a copy of 'AC 43.13-1B'. It's a free[1] (and big) pdf put out by the FAA for aircraft technicians... contains loads of great info. The section on safety wiring starts on pg. 7-19. Enjoy! [1] Well... not really 'free', we've already paid for it. :)
@@ericsee9109 They have holes in them for the purpose of allowing you to safety wire them so the bolts cant pass the wire if they become loose. This was a good vid but they way hes wiring it is more for aesthetics.
The safety wire in this case DOES have a purpose. Ducati designed the cush drive studs this way, to stop them backing out and damaging the swingarm. They've been doing it this way at least since the 748/916.
The loops around each bolt are much too loose. A better technique is to crimp the wires tight around each bolt, so that the twists do not have a loose loop around the bolt, then twist with the tool while ensuring that the safety wire is firmly inside the groove in the bolt, making sure that where the twist meets the next bolt is very tight, then repeating the process for each bolt. That way the wire does not loosen. 4 pulls on the tool would be more appropriate for this installation. 3 is just too loose. The last section, the pigtail, needs to have a total of SIX twists, not 2-3, then be looped under and folded around the already installed wire, to secure the pigtail from ever being spun out of position by centrifugal force and possibly breaking the end off.
Pretty much what I was going to say. Not sure why this guy's even making a how to video without bothering to learn how to do it properly himself first. Another free-dumb production
Oh wow! There's a tool? I was NEVER going to safety wire anything because it looked so time consuming and fiddly. But seeing you do this it looks easy. Thanks for the video!
Hi, I don't see you putting the safety wires through any holes as though you are just putting the safety wires on the thread only or around the Cush bolt. am new at this, but from all the videos I saw on RUclips it seems that the wire has to go through some kind of a hole on the screw to secure it and not only on the thread. am not sure if this is effective, and I don't see how the wire is secured in place if it is only wrapped around the Cush screws. Let me know how it is holding up, was thinking to do the same for my axle wheel nut.
If it does anything it keeps the nuts from completely backing out but thats about it. If it were me, id drill the end of every cush bolt and run the wire through. Even then its still not preventing the nuts from coming loose.
@@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen The safety wire in this case DOES have a purpose. Ducati designed the cush drive studs this way, to stop them backing out and damaging the swingarm. They've been doing it this way at least since the 748/916.
If done correctly absolutely. A secondary, redundant safety solution if the first method (torqued bolts) fails. In the case of this video the purpose is ‘oooh look, Shiney!” Because it’s not securing anything.
@@TheOriginalCoda I doubt it would. safety wire goes through holes in nuts and bolts to secure. the way it does this is through tension, if one bolt tries to loosen then the other will be pulled tighter. by wrapping the wire around the end of the thread like this its not doing squat to stop the nut backing off. it might stop the nut falling off completely, for a while, but you will still have a fastener not done up correctly. if its perfectly safe without that nut done up properly, what's the point in the nut being there in the first place? also no where in this video does he talk about the correct tension being 6-8 turns per inch, he's talking about 'three spins gives him the look that he wants' nothing technical about that, he's literally saying that he does that many turns for the aesthetic. then think about how not all the pliers will have the same rotations per pull, so your not going to meet the specifications of any safety wiring guidelines.
@@benjo145 This is not the same system you describe. The wire goes into specially designed grooves in the studs. It's got nothing to do with holes in nuts or wire 'gripping on the threads'. I guess you've not seen one of these studs in person? Ducati racing designed them to do that job that I described, and successfully raced bikes since the early 90's with this system and still use it to this day.
You're not supposed to thread-lock the flanged cush-drive nuts. I have the service manual right in front of me, and it just says 48nm, no thread-lock of any kind should be applied.
You’re not safety wiring the sprocket, you’re wrapping the hub stud threads with 0.041” wire. Can’t wait for the video showing what happens when a piece slips off, gets pulled into the sprocket and trashes your bike!
Hi SH. He's not wrapping the threads. On Ducatis the standard studs have deep grooves around the tips. When the wire is twisted it locks tightly into the grooves. If a nut comes loose it cannot get past the wire. Some people upgrade to studs that have a hole in the end and/or nuts that have holes through them. But the stock items do work perfectly well provided the wire is snugly wrapped into those rebates. 👍
@@c138599 there’s a difference between cosmetic, looks neat, looks cool and airworthy. Airworthiness is paramount, I don’t care if it looks cool, coolness doesn’t care if it comes apart at 15k’ with passengers aboard
It has wings but it's not sn aeroplane. What's all this nonsense about airworthiness? Tell me do you safety wire your car's wheel nuts? If not, why not given the airworthy rant. And if you do, what the hell for??? 😄 ps I'm just stirring. You aero guys set the standard, I know. 👍
This is not how to safety wire bolts. I hope anyone else doesn’t actually do this. To do it right you need to drill a hole in all the bolts to pass the wire through. Maybe this is the cafe version of safety wiring lol.
Beautiful job looks cool but I don’t see the purpose except aesthetics.
I thought the purpose of the safety wire was to prevent the nuts or bolts to keep from coming loose. Looks like you went through the ends of studs not nuts. ??? Just curious
eventho its not going thru any holes... i think its better that the safety wire u do it closer to the nut itself... aint it supposed to b safety wire fornthe nuts so that it wouldnt get loose n fall out? correct me if im wrong
Nice one !
easy to follow and got it right the first time, thanks bro !!
Great Video 👍🏽 I have that tool from dirt biking to safety tie my grips. It helps on muddy days so it doesn’t move around and helps if you go down from getting mud in between your grips. I’m going to try this on my SF, I’ll probably wire it counterclockwise though. Looks good too 👍🏽 take care
Hmmm... safety wire really does nothing unless it passes through drilled bolt heads.
Might I suggest googling & downloading a copy of 'AC 43.13-1B'. It's a free[1] (and big) pdf put out by the FAA for aircraft technicians... contains loads of great info. The section on safety wiring starts on pg. 7-19.
Enjoy!
[1] Well... not really 'free', we've already paid for it. :)
I don’t understand why the studs would have holes
@@ericsee9109 They have holes in them for the purpose of allowing you to safety wire them so the bolts cant pass the wire if they become loose. This was a good vid but they way hes wiring it is more for aesthetics.
Very true man, however these bikes have specially designed studs with a groove at the end, made exactly for this purpose. ;)
The safety wire in this case DOES have a purpose. Ducati designed the cush drive studs this way, to stop them backing out and damaging the swingarm. They've been doing it this way at least since the 748/916.
Actually,the nuts have holes. Found this by accident, yet I'd fail this for any track or road race....send him to the Sin Bin!
The loops around each bolt are much too loose. A better technique is to crimp the wires tight around each bolt, so that the twists do not have a loose loop around the bolt, then twist with the tool while ensuring that the safety wire is firmly inside the groove in the bolt, making sure that where the twist meets the next bolt is very tight, then repeating the process for each bolt. That way the wire does not loosen. 4 pulls on the tool would be more appropriate for this installation. 3 is just too loose. The last section, the pigtail, needs to have a total of SIX twists, not 2-3, then be looped under and folded around the already installed wire, to secure the pigtail from ever being spun out of position by centrifugal force and possibly breaking the end off.
well it's not even safety wired to prevent the nuts from coming loose, but it will stop them from falling off the studs if they do come loose.
As a TT official, they'd be rejected.
Looks ok but would never pass tech inspection. It's fine if you're not planning to do advanced track days or race.
Pretty much what I was going to say. Not sure why this guy's even making a how to video without bothering to learn how to do it properly himself first. Another free-dumb production
Oh wow! There's a tool? I was NEVER going to safety wire anything because it looked so time consuming and fiddly. But seeing you do this it looks easy. Thanks for the video!
Awesome content on the SFV4. Please keep this up the good work!
Looks like awesome, well done👏
what this safety wire is doing? not to lose nuts?. i think you need to drill them and then wire it up. looks good.
Hi, I don't see you putting the safety wires through any holes as though you are just putting the safety wires on the thread only or around the Cush bolt. am new at this, but from all the videos I saw on RUclips it seems that the wire has to go through some kind of a hole on the screw to secure it and not only on the thread. am not sure if this is effective, and I don't see how the wire is secured in place if it is only wrapped around the Cush screws. Let me know how it is holding up, was thinking to do the same for my axle wheel nut.
If it does anything it keeps the nuts from completely backing out but thats about it. If it were me, id drill the end of every cush bolt and run the wire through. Even then its still not preventing the nuts from coming loose.
@@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen The safety wire in this case DOES have a purpose. Ducati designed the cush drive studs this way, to stop them backing out and damaging the swingarm. They've been doing it this way at least since the 748/916.
Cool videos great explanations good job👌💪
I'm about to do this to the bike for sure
Nice!
Nice work but on a different note what do you use for service lights and codes
@@CaliMotoTV thanks for the reply
Great video, very helpful. Thanks!
Outstanding job, great tutorial 🤗
Sorry First time hearing about the safety wire what does it do?
@Someone Needs a Snickers thanks a lot now I know.
Nice job.
Are you missing that bike yet?
very good dyi video!!!
Thanks!
What’s the weight gains? 😀 nice video 👍🏻
Like a Propeller or Most Nuts in the Aircraft. Lockwire 0,8 mm.
Good learning bro
What a State of the Art 😘
i love your channel
Gold colored wire would have looked sweet
Looking good 👍😜
slip-on need to flash ecu？
@@CaliMotoTV Thank you!
Bro,you can paint the wire black or gold before you twist them on!!! ;)
does not need it but everyone does what they want
Is there a purpose beside esthetic ?
If done correctly absolutely. A secondary, redundant safety solution if the first method (torqued bolts) fails.
In the case of this video the purpose is ‘oooh look, Shiney!” Because it’s not securing anything.
@@benjo145 It stops the nut coming off, which stops the stud backing out, and gouging a hole in the swingarm. Nothing 'Aesthetic' about it.
@@TheOriginalCoda I doubt it would. safety wire goes through holes in nuts and bolts to secure. the way it does this is through tension, if one bolt tries to loosen then the other will be pulled tighter.
by wrapping the wire around the end of the thread like this its not doing squat to stop the nut backing off. it might stop the nut falling off completely, for a while, but you will still have a fastener not done up correctly. if its perfectly safe without that nut done up properly, what's the point in the nut being there in the first place?
also no where in this video does he talk about the correct tension being 6-8 turns per inch, he's talking about 'three spins gives him the look that he wants' nothing technical about that, he's literally saying that he does that many turns for the aesthetic. then think about how not all the pliers will have the same rotations per pull, so your not going to meet the specifications of any safety wiring guidelines.
@@benjo145 This is not the same system you describe. The wire goes into specially designed grooves in the studs. It's got nothing to do with holes in nuts or wire 'gripping on the threads'. I guess you've not seen one of these studs in person? Ducati racing designed them to do that job that I described, and successfully raced bikes since the early 90's with this system and still use it to this day.
This looks flimsy at best. Definitely not the proper way to do this, but maybe good enough for the motorcycle crowd.
Why? Safe sally 🤣🤣
Locktite still works. Why bother wiring.
Because why not
You're not supposed to thread-lock the flanged cush-drive nuts. I have the service manual right in front of me, and it just says 48nm, no thread-lock of any kind should be applied.
You’re not safety wiring the sprocket, you’re wrapping the hub stud threads with 0.041” wire. Can’t wait for the video showing what happens when a piece slips off, gets pulled into the sprocket and trashes your bike!
Hi SH. He's not wrapping the threads. On Ducatis the standard studs have deep grooves around the tips. When the wire is twisted it locks tightly into the grooves. If a nut comes loose it cannot get past the wire. Some people upgrade to studs that have a hole in the end and/or nuts that have holes through them. But the stock items do work perfectly well provided the wire is snugly wrapped into those rebates. 👍
@@c138599 there’s a difference between cosmetic, looks neat, looks cool and airworthy. Airworthiness is paramount, I don’t care if it looks cool, coolness doesn’t care if it comes apart at 15k’ with passengers aboard
It has wings but it's not sn aeroplane. What's all this nonsense about airworthiness? Tell me do you safety wire your car's wheel nuts? If not, why not given the airworthy rant. And if you do, what the hell for??? 😄 ps I'm just stirring. You aero guys set the standard, I know. 👍
@@c138599 I work in aerospace engineering, and I'm also calling out the bullshit from the other guy.
Sorry but this is a total waste of time and dangerous!!
As previous comments the wire has to go through drilled nuts to lock them out!
Bullshit. Take a look at the stud with the groove in it. These were designed by Ducati Corse and have done millions of miles at race speeds.
This is not how to safety wire bolts. I hope anyone else doesn’t actually do this. To do it right you need to drill a hole in all the bolts to pass the wire through.
Maybe this is the cafe version of safety wiring lol.
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Tell it to Ducati racing team.