Insulate Walls Wallrock Thermal Liner
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2022
- Insulate Walls Wallrock Thermal Liner
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Well this video has cost me several hundred pounds!! I just bought a few rolls and a few tubs of adhesive. Thanks for the vid!!!
Same!
Here's a tip I wish I knew before I started. Use tin snips to cut the thermal liner. You'll get a cleaner cut than if you use a Stanley knife or scissors. It's tough stuff and doesn't cut easily. This isn't a bad thing. It's worth every penny.
Gtreat stuff as usual, and answers all the questions about fitting the liner - will be trying this in my living room soon!
I was waiting for this video for a while - just when I was thinking about it most you went and made the video. You made one 5 years ago which blends nicely with this new one.
Thank you your welcome.. n
Hi ? Sorry couldn't catch your name in video, but a great video. Best I have seen for Wallrock. This is something I am going to do in the summer as I have a room I'm not using hardly as soo cold in winter but didn't have a clue where to start.
With this video I feel like I understand the process! Thank you again.
Thanks your welcome
I have used wallrock thermo liner in past but came across suretherm paint about £40 for 2.5 litres really does work used it on several jobs and you can feel the heat on the wall.give it a try you won't be disappointed and half the price. And labour time.
Can you use that paint over old plaster lath walls?
No! Don’t be stupid.
Another great video. I’ve just put up the wall rock graphite lining paper which is a bit thicker and again needs special adhesive but the retention of heat in the room is remarkable. Love the tidy as you go attitude, proper good graft mentality. Do it right, do it right first time!
Can the wall breath though?
That room is going to be really toasty once you have finished, good job as always.
Yes feels a load better already.. can't wait to show the finish. Thanks
Great video. Can you put thermal reflective on it? Just to get extra warm. My walls very cold.
I before and after temperature test would have been a nice idea
Try putting paste on liner and on wall. Also beware outside temp less than 10C. Or it won’t stick.
I can remember something like this being used about forty years ago. I think it was called something like Warmalene, the spelling may not be correct.
It was basically thin polystyrene on a roll. It was very popular but I've no idea how it performed.
Yes... but this one is fibre fleece... lot more expensive than the polystyrene.. more tough as well.
Yeh, I used to do our walls with that polystyrene roll too. Nice and warm to the touch and every layer helps with the thermal performance of a cold room.
Used this a few times on jobs, not the easiest of papers to hang, The customer had cold spots all over an exterior wall in an old property and this helped massively, just dont press or put anything against it because indentations will happen 🙈
Top job as always 👍
Thank you.
Hello, just wondering how close you are to Clitheroe Lancashire. we would like you to do this for us
@@PaintingandDecorating Yey a fellow Brit. Sorry to trouble you friend but I wondered if I could ask your learned opinion on something. I need to do what you are doing above, I have a kitchen and bathroom extension on a terraced house that was built in the 50's and 14 years of winters out there have been atrocious at times so I am fitting a new kitchen and am going to sort the walls given they are single brick no cavity exterior walls.
Question:
Once Ive put the thermic dampstop up with the funky glue, I have a choice of what liner to use:
Red label 10m insulation roll is 4mm thick and £11.99 a roll.
Wallrock Thermal Liner 10m roll is 3mm thick and the cheapest I can find it for is £39.99, hell of a difference in price.
In either case I am then putting a thick 1700 grade lining paper on top.
Any reason I shouldn't go for the cheaper option wall liner in your opinion? cost of living crisis and all lol, cheers for the help if able. Thanks for the vid, most useful.
p.s. trick with the pencil and table, :O well that would have helped me draw straighter lines on many an occasion over the last 40 bloody years, why don't they teach these things at school.
What do u call the small roller loold bigger than a rad roller
Is there a comparison here or elsewhere WALLROCk 3mm and k600 5mm ans SEMPATAP THERMAL
Cheers got a landlord job to do which I've told them the job requires thermal linning. They have given the go ahead so whilst I've linned many a wall I've never needed to use a thermal linner so first time for me and this video has been very valuable in planning the work and reducing waste. As its a landlord job they want to save money would you still advise linning after putting up the thermal lining or would you fill seems with a hardstop and paint? Any advice welcome.
Thank you..
It all depends on how fussy your customer is. Chances are you will be able to slightly see where the joints are. Lining just helps reduce imperfections.
Leave it down to your customer and explain the reasoning behind lining paper.
The worst case is, you line it eventually because it is not good enough. But that said people always decorate rented properties. So the customer may be happy just to have the thermal liner, and allow the tenant to finish with wallpaper.
Cheers
Looks proper solid stuff that matey… never used it myself. My own home has insulated backed plasterboard on external walls so no need for it, certainly worth entertaining if anyone was to have the need for it though. One question, is the thermal liner fairly spongey in feel once dry and on the wall. I imagine it would be almost fleecy on the reverse side therefor may dent slightly if knocked? Or does the adhesive set the whole surface off solid? Looking good though mate. Amazing really from how it was! 👍👍
Thank you.. it does stay soft.... probably better with a tough wallpaper on top. But still worth using to save money on heating.
What insulated plasterboard did you use , is it gyproc as that's what I think I'm looking for , I'm not up on these things to know , would go for this wall rock if it wasn't soft ,
You can use the adhesive as a filler for levelling out the butt joints. Well explained.
can you put it on papered walls?
Can you put that on artex ceiling? Would it hold?
What's it like to take off again, should you decide to redecorate or replace damaged areas in future? I guess it's not as easy as stripping ordinary wallpaper.
Not bad a little more work than normal paper. But it does come off. Thanks
thanks very helpful video.
Great to hear.. thanks
Can I use a sharp Stanley knife for the edges
great video two question can ir replaceing skirting have it lipped under top of skirting also one up can you paint over it directly and can you use this on a solid wall
As long as no leaks, yes. It can be painted directly, but best to fill joints and line foa a better finish. Thanks 👍
@@PaintingandDecorating could you fill the lines with the addesive or filler
Sorry my typing was bad can you use on a solid wall and can you fill lines in joins with filler or addesive you use to put paper up
great video was thinking can you paint on top and if it going to look like a wall or we need another wallpaper reason im asking is im planing to do this in the kitchen as im freezing there so i dont know if wallpapers will look good in the kitchen
At a push and if well applied you could get away with painting it..
But we usually put lining paper on. Thanks
can you plaster on top?
Ive removed wallpaper and found this as backing, how do i best go about removing this?
Hi! Best demonstrations I have been able to find. Do you advise papering into and around a corner onto adjoining wall or should i paper into corner and start a new drop?
Whatever makes the least amount of waste and makes it easier.. that's the best advice using this thermal liner. Thanks
My question too! What did you do?
Really useful video, thanks.
Which thermal liner did you use, the standard of 3mm (7.5 m2/roll) or the KV600 of 4mm (10 m2/roll) ?
And the glue bucket, the 5kg or 10kg?
Sorry for asking, I just want to purchase the right ratio of liner/glue.👍
He used standard.
Where can I find someone in North Lonon area to put wallrock or sempatap up
Is there anything similar to this stuff but for sound insulation? The wall between me and my neighbour is extremely thin (I think it’s just a stud wall with plasterboard.)
Acoustic liner, its like glorified lino! Worth doing if its the party wall between your neighbour.
It is building work, and needs treating as such to do it right. Not just a case of slapping it on the surface.
Brilliant job and good tips. What impact will this have in a heatwave do you think?
Thanks, it does help it works both ways.
@@PaintingandDecorating I thought it might but after the heatwave last year I didn't want to risk making things worse!
Corners. So you’re not going around the corner and then lapping over with the next like normal paper? You are butting up in corners I think? Thanks
Where to buy please?
Really enjoying this series of videos. Quite similar to what I've been tackling in my home. For the top finishing fibre lining paper, how do you go about hiding the joins? I've read some people butt the edges and others leave a little gap then prime fill before the top colour goes on.
I've tried both methods.
Thanks.. fill twice then apply lining paper best way to hide joints'
Will this stop condensation on an outside wall of a Victorian semi with no cavity ?
It will help yes. Thanks
Do you have to put lining paper over this? or can you just paint over this?
Yes it's better to have another surface really.. wallpaper that has a texture is best.
I want to use it for insulation, but even more for smoothing out two very uneven roughly plastered walls. Will it be up to the task?
Can you paper over existing paper? Also in hard to reach places can you adhesive the back of the paper, Thanks
Best to remove old wallpaper. And you can paste the back for difficult areas. Thanks
I live in a old Victorian property that costs a bomb to heat. I’m wondering if you put this on the outside facing walls or is it best to do all round?
Please don't do this to the outside facing walls. Have it checked by someone who knows about older property, and come up with a better, if albeit more expensive solution.
By all means do the interior walls. and insulating above ceilings, under floors will bring gains too. If the wall has a window, get some advice on uprating the glazing unit.
It works great ignore the other comment... only need to insulate outside walls and upstairs ceilings.. makes a difference and is cheap with little mess. Save you loads on heating
If you're in the UK & your property has an energy rating of E or below, (perhaps D in some areas), you can get free insulation installed.
I've just had it done on my outside facing walls - I'm currently redecorating.
@@toria-j Do you have a link for this please, this would be perfect for my outside walls, looking at houses nearby , they are e or f rating.
@@wassap786 the company was CES - based in Swansea, but they cover the UK. Try asking for Dean & mention my name.
They do an assessment & tell you what they can provide, though this partly depends on timing and what your council covers. (The guys that came here were really efficient & friends say the plastering is really decent. Once the plaster dried, I noticed an improvement in both heat and sound.)
Could you go straight over the top, of previous wallpaper, I have a room that has had multiple, multiple over paints, by the previous owners & when I tried to remove some, in other rooms with a steam wallpaper remover, it was a much harder job!
One room I put up thermal wallpaper, it like card... I'd like to go over the top with this, then finish off with another layer of thermal wallpaper, then over pain with anti condensation paint 👍
Always best to strip old wallpaper off.
I would not go straight on top.
Short cuts never work in decorating.
Thanks
Hi, can I use the same adhesive to hang the fibre liner 75?
I've got the same question - assume it would be fine?
@scruffykl Did you use the wallrock adhesive to apply the fibre lining paper?
If yes, did you paste the paper or wall?
@@samj82 yeah I used the same adhesive to apply the lining paper - worked fine, no issues at all. I pasted the wall (ie front of the thermal wallpaper) then stuck the lining paper on top. I used wallrock fibre liner as I believe it doesn't shrink as some standard lining paper can do when used in these situations
does it get hard like wall ? as I followed your way but when I press it with finger it is not rock hard .. it leaves my finger impression like memory foam although it do not go back to flat ..
Yes that's what it's like
@@PaintingandDecorating Thanks for the reply .. Also after painting the surface is quite rough .. is it suppous to be like it ? previously wall was a smooth surface..
Can you put wallpaper on it once its been put up or can you paint it
Both , but if painting best to use lining paper before painting.. thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating is it correct that you have to use paste the wall wallpaper on this ?
Can this go round a corner?
I have this in my bedroom. However within a year of installing, the pre applied lining paper has come away from the foam backing. Not good at all
Oh no! In my rooms I've used 2mm thermal liner and then the smooth fibre lining paper over the top. It takes forever though and you can still see the joins in the thermal liner in places. I was hoping getting the pre fibrelined thermal liner would solve both problems. But maybe not if they're not stuck together well :(
@@chris-townson the biggest frustration is that it did a great job of keeping the room warm. Unfortunately all the finish wall paper has peeled off everywhere so I need to remove and reapply
Did you use fibre liner on top and a ready mixed extra strong paste?
@@mathewgallimore1484 just stick back all edges with ready mixed strong adhesive. Should be fine.. thanks
Can this soundproof as well?
Yes a small amount.. thanks
Found that after a while and especially around radiators that it starts to suffer from delamination.
Yes I have had small issues like that..
How can I find experienced decorator within Greater London area who experienced with Wallrock thermal liner. So far, I couldn't find a professional, same as in this video
If you find someone who can hang wallpaper they should be able to sort it out. Thanks
Hung this multiple times instead Sheers I use large Fatmax Snap Off Knife Blades will glide through any wall coverings Also hung this horizontally .Once completed use caulk Ceiling ,Facings, Skirtings and down Internal corners ,use sponge give tidy bead Client refurbished attic into bedroom .Could feel air was cold Room was,always in the shade until afternoon .Client after i used this noticed huge difference in room temperature It was now comfortable environment that retained heat inc heat from below
My brother-in-law showed me this in his house and he said it made quite a difference on the external walls of his house which are of solid brick construction with no cavity.
I then spent about £300 in buying some rolls and adhesive to try it on my own property with external walls but before I had a chance to fit he called me over to show me that the liner had started to get mouldy from behind and the mould was starting to show through the front.
He had painted straight over without lining it with mould resistant silk paint, so I don’t know if that affected it.
So I’d advise you to make up your own decision if it’ll be any good.
I’ve since decided not to fit the rolls that I bought as I’m terrified that the mould may start to come through on mine too !
Same here I can't decide. What did you do in the end? Plasterboard etc?
Unfortunately the backing paper onto which the insulation is bonded has failed, probably due to a change in the dew point which has caused the bond to decay or it may be poor manufacturing. Can't recommend this product for thie reason
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Thank you.
Think I have underpriced a few jobs.
Easy done.
Useless !!!! why out PVA on ? it will all go soft when the moisture from the adhesive gets onto it .This covering is crap.... you cannot fill it etc of you damage it etc . It marks really easily . Far easier and a lot better to add another layer of thermo plasterboard .
Do you leave any gaps between each roll ?
does it affect walls breathing?
Walls don't really breath in that sense, the surface may absorb and dry out a little. But as far as going all the way through I'm not sure about that. Especially from the outside otherwise your house would be wet. So the answer is no.