Then Adele said “I Hate Wah-Wah” Oh...Tim Pierce
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2020
- In this episode my good friend Tim Pierce and I discuss session guitar playing from the 70's to the present. Tim has some hilarious stories.
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I admire the fact that when Rick interviews he actually lets the guest speak without interfering.
That's because he's always learning, the all picture and the details. Great Rick...
Yes. The mark of a great interview... Hearing more of the one being interviewed.
Yeah but then that's Tim Fucking Pierce he's talking to
@just Dennis that rarely happens nowadays.
Because he is, indeed a good guy. Not selfish, not arrogant. Not one who thinks he knows it all. Exactly what I love❤ I don't know I also think he's kinda cute in some way lol. Really charming and sending out happiness and good vibes 😏😁☺👌
This is the kind of interview/convo that any and every musician should watch. We're so lucky these guys take the time to make these videos for us
Yeah, (as a saxophonist), now I understand the conversations between guitarist and keyboardist all those years ago...
My adopted blueprint. Priceless literally.
I am not a musician. I am a 63 year old bloke who is a nobody. But gentlemen I have learned more today about music than I have learned in my whole life. This video is a masterpiece to me. I will never listen to a song in the same way again. I have an understanding about the structure and hard work that goes into song structure. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
A Bloke Is a term used in the North East Of England. It is Used as Part of our region (Geordie) language. It is another way or term for "a Man" Hope this helps. Couple of examples are. hadaway ('get away' or 'you must be joking! '), Or haway ('come on)!
A few more examples that may amuse other readers are as follows.
1. Geordie saying: Geet walla
Translation: Very, very large
We say: "There's a geet walla queue at Asda, gan to Morrisons instead.”
What we mean is: “There is a very large queue in Asda. I’m going to Morrisons instead.”
2. Geordie saying: Gadgie
Translation: Man, adult male human
We say: "See that gadgie at the front of the geet walla queue?"
What we mean is: “Have a look at the man at the front of that very large queue.”
3. Geordie saying: Radgie
Translation: Temper tantrum
We say: "That gadgie's gannin' proper radgie, like."
What we mean is: “That gentleman is extremely cross.”
4. Geordie saying: Haddaway
Translation: Generic proclamation of negativity or disbelief
We say: "Haddaway, man, there's nee way Suarez is signing for the Toon."
What we mean is: “You’re joking?! There is no way Suarez is signing for Newcastle United.”
5. Geordie saying: Howay man!
Translation: Generic proclamation of exhortation or encouragement - can be both positive and negative
We say: "Howay man! We gannin' doon the toon?"
What we mean is: “Come on. Are we going into the city centre?”
6. Geordie saying: Whey aye, man!
Translation: Generic proclamation of positivity or agreement
We say: “Whey aye, man! I’m game for a night on the toon.”
What we mean is: “Yes, of course! I’m all for a night out in town.”
7. Geordie saying: Hyem
Translation: Home
We say: "Am knackered. Howay, pet, I'm gan hyem."
What we mean is: “I’m very tired. Come on, my friend, I’m going home.”
8. Geordie saying: Purely belta, beltas
Translation: Generic proclamation of joy
We say: "The Toon were purely belta on Saturday, like!"
What we mean is: “Newcastle United were excellent on Saturday.”
9. Geordie saying: Hinny
Translation: Wife, female companion or life partner
We say: "Dee us some scran, hinny. I'm clamming."
What we mean is: “Make me some food, my love. I’m very hungry.”
10. Geordie saying: Hoy
Translation: Please pass or throw
We say: "Hoy a hamma owa here, hinny."
What we mean is: “Please pass the hammer over here, my friend.”
11. Geordie saying: Clamming
Translation: Starving, hungry or in desperate need of some service
We say: "Howay, man. I’m clamming for some scran."
What we mean is: “Come on! I’m desperate for some food.”
12. Geordie saying: Scran, bait
Translation: Food
We say: "Where's me bait, hinny?"
What we mean is: “Where is my food?”
13. Geordie saying: Netty
Translation: Toilet facility
We say: "Where's ya netty? I'm busting."
What we mean is: “Where is your toilet? I’m desperate.”
14. Geordie saying: Canny
Translation: Good, friendly
We say: "He is a proper canny, lad."
What we mean is: “He is really friendly.”.
It's amazing how much work goes into saying everything you can in 4 minutes.
@@banditman142536Good lord. That's a geet walla of text. I'm indeed amused.
Nice post!
I love how he has a guitar straped on the entire time but still makes air guitar motions when he is explaining some things.
Part of his persona & a comfort.
I often do the same when hanging out lol I’ll keep my guitar strapped on me and just noodle while talking lol makes me more comfortable in social situations with people I may not know well lol it’s weird
I've always thought that a musician doing air guitar would feel better with a guitar with no strings.
I have never seen him without a guitar in his hands. I suspect that he cooks breakfast with it strapped on.
Rick is the Oprah of music. Always asking the perfect question to allow THE GUEST to be the expert. He never makes it about himself, but only allows the guest to shine. This is how you educate and entertain at the same time. Premier Guitar should take note
This IS the comment, this one - you encapsulate the reasons I subscribed to both Rick and Tim's channels.
I think John Bollinger on PG asks good questions and gets out of the way. Some of their other interviewers, I couldn’t agree more
@@ryanwiseman9141 Huh? Bollinger is the very reason I mentioned Premier Guitar- he's focused on himself 100% of the time. That's why their content is utterly useless.
Oprah is a loser. :(
@@HalGore not sure that word means what you think it means...
When I used to sing in clubs, my guitar player liked to play standing on top of the bar with his wireless rig from time to time. I would run the Wah pedal with my foot from across the room and you would see people who knew guitar wonder how he was doing that. Fun times.
I love that, you gave me a laugh... something about the humour of musicians I think
if i ever perform that sounds like a cool stunt
That’s super cool.
J.P. F. When my band did a cover of Locomotive Breath by Tull, I did the flute lead on keyboard , but my lead singer would do the breath and sounds Ian Anderson made
« Oh my god, he’s got a talkbox implant! »
"What do you do when Adele says no wah pedal?"
"Uh... you turn it off."
LOLOLOLOL
Thanks for the laugh guys. Always good stuff here!
Glad I wasn't the only one that laughed at that
I laughed at that!
I really didn't. And I really can't understand why anyone did. I'm genuinely confused here. Adele said she didn't want a wah wah pedal on her song. That's funny? This is a genuine question: why is that funny, or even noteworthy in any way? Please help.
@@bernieross1241because her success and outstanding singing and songwriting speak for itself, so if on HER production (she's paying you), she wants something else, you don't question it, and in that moment you realize none of your guitar centered thinking is of any use here, which is quite hilarious 😂. All that is big and important to you, in your personal musical journey in one second becomes really small and you can laugh about it, because sure you know your ego as a guitar player just got a bump 🤣 and of course your intuition says "but Adele, listen this is my..." - No! That's not your role in here, she's paying you to play what she thinks fits her music. You start a discussion and you're done lol. The clash of cultures (guitar thinking dude vs non-guitar mega global superstar) is funny as hell. And buddy, you gotta learn to sometimes laugh about yourself too. Laugh about your own ego. If you take yourself too serious all the time, you won't get far in life, neither in job or marriage. Ask Rick I think he's been married for a long time ;) in this case in this moment what's the point of getting frustrated? She acknowledged you as the guitar player she wants on her record, you're getting payed for your time in her studio. This is literally the best place to take a blow to your ego and laugh about it just as hard as you can. No better place in the world to exercise that 😁
@@asharpbflat7179 12:00 don't worry Tim, you got her good with the term " simple stuff''. nuff said
When Tim was talking about the great outro guitar parts of the 80s the first song that came to mind was “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” by Tears for Fears.
I like well-written outros, too. I've always hated it when a song just repeats ad nauseum and fades out. It's just plain lazy. Write a goddamn ending.
Def Leppard's All I Want is Everything has an epic outro.
Pantera’s Floods is my favourite outro
Oh that outro is the best part of the song
At first I was like, man, I don’t have the patience for a 45 minute episode.
45 minutes later. 🥰
Facts. Then 10 minutes later you're telling the clock to stfu because it claims it's been 45 minutes
i was just thinking the exact same thing!!!!!! checked progress bar, and sheesh, halfway already! now i gotta rewind coz i got sucked into the comments. a really interesting insight into that world too.
Same
I thought - 45 minutes - ah, I'll never make it all the way through this. Next thing I know - it's over! Love hearing these experts talk shop :)
Totally agree.
Likewise
Same here and got hungry for more :)
Same! haha
i wish it was longer
Two amazing musicians allowing us everyday commonplace musicians to peek in on their conversation and drool. 😀🤩
absolutely ... the tube is full of people offering unfounded opinions
...this is NOT one of those times !
I'm not a musician, but i just sat through 45 minutes of guitar talk and i loved it =) Rick and Tim, brilliant as always.
Tim is way too modest! I had the fortune to play with him on a Rick Springfield tour in 1983 & in my opinion he is nothing short of brilliant on the guitar (& he's a nice guy too).
That's when I had first heard (of) him, being a member of Springfield's tour band :-)
He seems very likable, and someone that would be great to work alongside.
@@user-qr8ki8ue4i - Yes, he radiates great, positive energy! :-)
Although chops are the thing... Being a nice person ensures you'll keep getting the call
David, back in '83 did it scare you when Rick would throw his guitar into the air so high?
10:54 is the bit about Adele
Thank you!!
Real MVP right here.
thank you
Thank you!!!
Thank you.
Tim’s insights on how to read your client, the situation, and adapt accordingly is precious counsel for session players and all professionals - thank you!
What a fascinating conversation. The more I listen to things like this, the greater my ignorance of music becomes, but I still love it.
The single most illuminating video on how music has been made over the last 50 years. The brilliance of a session player has so little to do with just musical skill; many musicians have the threshold talent to do it, but few have the wisdom-and I think that is the best word to explain what Tim is sharing here-to make it. What I most enjoyed about this video is that Tim sharing his path to success as a studio musician applies almost universally to any other job dependent on teamwork and process. I’ll watch this many times to come. Rick walks Tim through this perfectly, letting him take the entire video to answer one question and simply underscoring key points with his own insightful questions and comments. So very, very well done. “Adele hates wah.” That sums it up precisely. There is now a, “handbook.” Thank you, Gentlemen.
......and the encapsulation of showing “less is more”. Loved the points about “headroom”.
And that is precisely why I could never be professional, no matter how much I practice.
I wish "professional" interviewers would let the subject talk as much as Rick does.
Rick shows a genuine interest in the people he speaks with and it makes these so much better.
Maybe if they weren't on a corporate time crunch
I also love how Tim listens and lets Rick finish a thought. Really a pro.
@@Luke-gq7du So true. My favorite example of this is Sean Hannity. I might agree with his take on things but he's insufferably unlistenable.
He must pay his guests well to interrupt them after three sentences to virtue-signal his family as L.E. and military and what He thinks about what he asked.
Remember. All these talk show hosts have certain "interview control" and to a certaij extent, ego comes into play a lot.
Tim Pierce is one of the THE most underrated guitarists. You know loads of his stuff but don't know it's him.
Underrated? Tim is quite possibly the most actively employed session guitarist in the world. How exactly is he underrated?
@@MikaelLewisify Basically none of the final consumers know about him
He definately is a very humble but interesting man in this interview.
Mikael Lewis Thank you! There are so many nonsensical ‘underrated’ comments on RUclips which deserve questioning.
@@mireilledischer3380 Indeed. Who's doing all this underrating?
Rick, this feeds my need for what I call "peripheral data." I love to know the back story of how songs were recorded (same thing for how movies are made). PLEASE continue these interviews! Please also thank Tim for sharing these interesting stories.
I don't play the guitar. I watch Rick periodically. Was brought in the by the video title on this one, thought I'd keep this in the background while I worked. And like so many others have said, this was mesmerizing. Rick, you're an incredible interviewer. Tim, you're a gem of knowledge. Together you're most definitely a masterclass, history lesson, and even inspiring for the future. Thanks Rick / Tim!
So many reasons to love Tim Pierce, but top of the list is his emotional intelligence and tales of reading the room.
the adele story starts at 10:54. you're welcome.
I knew someone would take care of business. thx
Thank you.
Thanks man
you're awesome man
Thanks so much for saving minutes of my life. I tried to find it after watching this for the 57 time, I just could'nt. But then doucheface came along.
it’s so cool to hear a master talk about their craft
Tim playing RHCP as an example of 80s pop is beautiful. Ha ha ha. I think everything he's playing can be found in the zephyr song.
I love the zephyr song🥺
@@rms3062 Me too! RHCP are amazing!
@@martinpaddle Exactly what I was thinking - A love like blood - sounded like he was playing that actual track...
He just kept playing RHCP Zephyr song and that was sweet!! This was very entertaining but yea Zephyr as an 80s pop song simulation was enjoyable
Time stamp?
Easy to see why Tim stays working. He's a talented player but also a great hang. Never underestimate people skills.
I think that people skills is MORE important than chops in most cases... I mean how many great guitarists do you see and say to yourself " I would never want to be in a band with that guy..".. you know what I mean?
It’s everything
Absolutely. No one wants to be stuck with a talented jerk on tour or in the studio for hours.
I love how Ricks interviews are more like a chat with a good buddy
I reckon many of them will become Rick's good buddies afterwards.
What blows me away is how very few artists actually write their own music.
The devil himself writes ALL pop music.
@@KevinJDildonik r u talking about max martin?
First: are human beings ever more beautiful than when they're talking about something they're passionate about? These dudes are gorgeous, man.
Second: holy moley, Rick is an amazing interviewer. Sure, he's got a TON of personal experience and knowledge on the subject, but just... they way he conducts the interview... guy could be a late night talk show host or journalist of the highest caliber.
Third: the casual knowledge bombing from Tim Pierce in this video is... I'm so glad this interview happened and I got to watch. I'm taking away things that I'll be using in my personal practice session tonight. (e.g.: gonna crank my volume and default to a more gentle attack - the shifting the center on the dynamic range... what a simple little tip for completely different tone... can't wait to see where it goes for me.)
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Great observation. Thats why im watching it, even though im not that interested in session musicians. His enthusiasm has made it interesting
Late night host suck. Rick is pretty good ;-)
Agreed, these guys know how powerful and magic music is !
And nothing's worse than to have your passion be met with indifference.
When he was describing the "crisis of confidence", you could just feel the tension in the air building as time dragged on during the imaginary guitar change. OMG
2 of musics most talented and humble musicians to ever walk the earth. You both rock!
So is John Jorgenson and Danny Gatton and Lenny Breau were also
I am kind of proud that I noticed all these nuances that Tim talks about that happened in the 80's especially regarding 8th notes and color of chords. He was able to articulate and describe it perfectly and succinctly. He is spot on.
"Bass player and drummer are nailing it by the third take..." That's one take too many for Two-Take Beato!
3 takes it's just a matter of choice there, most of the A Team musicians are nailing it at the 1st take, I'm talking here about the Vinnie Landau East Phillinganes, and so on...
@@RogerBiwandu Clearly you aren't getting the reference.
@@RCAvhstape Oops, sorry then... :-) (I suspected a joke, but, I guess my english is not as good that I thought...)
@@RCAvhstape what is the reference about?
I could listen to Rick and many of his friends all day long, when I should be practicing, composing, and recording. Thanks a lot Rick.
You're not alone, I miss all my practice time now 🤦🏼♂️
Yup same here. I could listen to Tim perice tell stories about recording the zillions of guitar parts of the 80’s & 90’s. Tim, I believe is the most recorded studio guitarist in music history
I could listen all day long too. But I don't play or compose. (Although I once played the opening of Smoke on the Water on a piece of packing styrofoam with four rubber bands stretched across it tuned by ear. My audience, a guy with 80% hearing loss in one ear nodded approvingly.)
So is it unanimous? Rick's vids are an addiction
Dammit Rick!😂
Since the “quarantine”, I have developed a tremendous appreciation for Tim. Helps that I’m a huge Toto/Lukather fan
Tim explains things so well, he helps you to understand the intricacies of music .
Thank GOD for real musicians like this to give us the real history and knowledge.
In 20 years, almost NONE of the "Top 20" artists around now, will be able to give info like this.
Talent is not exclusive to any generation. There as as many amazing young people now as there were 20 years ago. I worked in a jazz school & the kids were incredible. I started noticing these kids playing as sidemen & women to current rock/pop stars. In 20 years , they'll be doing exactly what Tim is doing here.
Me: Hey Tim how are you?
Tim: **tells the entire history of music in his life and what he has learned**
I just love how passionate this guy is and it's contagious!
I love the Adele story - I come back to it whenever I need a little chuckle. You're an amazing talent Tim and a great story-teller.
W O W !!!
To hear Tim show some love for Atlanta Rhythm Section was awesome.
Barry Bailey and J.R. Cobb were the guitarists of note back then.
Also had the opportunity to jam with them, while i lived in Atlanta in the 1980's.
Hands down, one of the better bands/ensembles. Such a sense for space and style. Some of us who have made a living making music will always show ARS the love and respect they deserve.
Breaking News: Adele and Kirk Hammett are no longer on speaking terms
Lol. On the black album recording, the producer Bob Rock said he literally had to try hide Kirk's wah pedal, so he'd at least do one solo without Wah
3 Days later, Adele: "Hello...."
Haha , that’s a good one , I hated that over wah use on the Black album .
She's gonna cross Tom Morello off her friends' list as well. Too bad, Adele. I don't cross off singers who do a lot of Yodeling, like Adele. Lighten up, honey. Years from now, you never know who you're going to work with in the business. Don't close any doors. When is she teaming up with Joe Bonamassa?
I can't stand wah, and I can't stand Hammett. Wah is just another way to cover up poor note choice and musical illiteracy.
Rick and Tim please make this a series. I watch and sub to both channels and love you both separately however, when the two of you get together in this context Rick seems to always be able to coax these amazing memories out Tim that he might not of shared on his own channel. Out of these conversations come some truly magical and brilliant gold nuggets for us to mine, if we listen as a student rather then as entertainment.
Case is point it awesome to hear that Tim thinks about spread triads as the backbone and the wet lightly strummed chords as the color, most of us would think about it the other way around, he didn’t directly say that but you could feel it when he was talking and demonstrating. Then he makes reference to opposites and how he always incorporates this method to get the big and full sounds. It true opposites do attract!
And the nugget about playing a loud amp soft! Pure gold Tim! That is an industry secret that many of us has known but wouldn’t tell, like revealing a magic trick to your audience. That is passing the baton and sharing decades of knowledge.
This is an honest look into the mindset of a gifted producer and a world class studio musician and how they communicate. Well done guys!
One of the greatest videos ever done in this platform for musicians out there. 45 min passed like 10. Thank you, Rick 🙏
Man sits at guitar... man moves hands over strings... man makes magic sounds! I so appreciate and respect people who master their craft and then make it look easy.
It's really good to see those that truly know what's going on giving Edge the credit he deserves.
Yeah, he is great, truely a pioneer of soundscapes on the guitar. So many are bashing him as a guitarist in youtube comment sections in guitaristrelated videos. They really don't get it, in so many ways. Don't know even where to start... so I won't.
@@TonalWorks I watched a rig rundown with the Edges gear. Was amazing to see what he uses and how he uses it, and the fact if it doesn't sound quite right he will go to all his stuff and check everything is set up as he likes it.
I personally find the Edge's playing and music extremely boring.
His tones and effect chains though, completely different story,
@@oldgoat381 Then that probably means you're a guitarist who plays over a song, and not inside it.
@@oldgoat381 I guess that's a subjective matter what appeals to a person musically.
Regarding this episode, Tim Pierce said he likes pop/rock songs that increase the intensity and build up like "a wedge".
The first thing I though about at that moment was "With or without you" by U2 as a prime example. The whole band is part of this buildup, but if we're talking about guitarparts you should analyse the guitar and the sparse notes played with e-bow in the beginning, the chimey riffs that starts off the main buildup in "...and you give yourself away.." and how it builds up to a climax. Masterful sense of arrangement, dynamics and emotion.
So for me it's the opposite of boring (although some of their later work I unfortunately find kind of boring tbh, but live they still are beasts).
Jimi Hendrix shakes his fist at Adele from beyond the grave!
@Jimi Hendrix ...Jimi...is that really you? lol
Simply why she hasn't released amy music. She realized wah wah is needed.
Hendrix and a few others are the only one's I've seen to do it well creatively, honestly. Its so overused now that I just can't stand it. Just my personal opinion, but I'm with Adele on this one. And blues solos. I just don't care.
@@Official_KC I hear that. I still dig my wah pedal though
Naa-ah - Jimi would think that Adele is beautiful, and he would seduce her, and make sweet love to her 'til her eyes rattled around in her head. Then he would play guitar - WITH a wah-wah pedal - and she would love it.
All guitar players should listen to this interview.
I love this interview. I’ve been a studio musician most of my life. And the psychology that he is explaining is so “spot on!” I love the idea of “crisis of confidence.”
Absolutely! But the only way to survive that crisis in the studio was to also have a lot of confidence in your abilities, even if you well knew your limitations. Mine was a naive, youthful confidence, but important, esp imp as a female studio engineer in the 70s. No one will have confidence in you if you don't project it. Like a pilot, you can't panic and just have to charge through whatever situation to the best solution, and take responsibility. No hesitation and no second guessing.
Come to think of it, I had a crisis of confidence about everything going on in a session lol! Part of the job, I guess. But I didn't think of it that way at the time, as it was just a normal workday (or night) for me.
That "Eighties thing" at 15:22 is the intro to Killing Joke's song, "Love Like Blood"--classic ambient chime of British post-punk music. It's not Red Hot Chili Peppers--"Zephyr Song" is from 2002 album. Killing Joke's "Love Like Blood" is from 1985.
As well as Shakira lol
Nah, it is indeed the 'Zephyr Song' - 'Love Like Blood' is lower. Gosh, I was obsessed with that song back then and hit 'record' on my stereo whenever it'd play on the radio. :-))
@@mightyV444 Fair enough regarding Tim playing the riff in a higher register. But Tim and Rick must have Killing Joke and U2 in mind because RHCP did not perform this riff in the 1980s, and RHCP were not known at all for ambient sounds on their '80's-era music--those early RHCP albums were more funk-punk fusion inspired. Emotional ambient soundscapes in the 1980s came from post-punk bands in Britain, Ireland, and Scotland: Cocteau Twins, U2, Siouxsie & The Banshees, The Cure, Joy Division, Brian Eno, Artery, PiL, etc.
@@dogmart - Oh yes, that's absolutely right, in context with Tim referring to the 80's and such artists; Still *my* favourite era in Music, too! It's most likely just coincidence that those three notes are the same in that RHCP song :-)
@@jaschul - Andy Summers is one of my main influences when it comes to sound and harmonies! At least with his work in The Police :-)
This may be my favorite RB video, ever! Tim has such great info, and Rick asked all the best questions.
Man, I could listen to you two legends for friggin hours!!!
Thanks for.
i always love hearing stories about the studio musicians..im fascinated by those geniuses nobody knew
I'm not musically worthy, but what an amazing conversation. I love how Tim sets the stage for answering the questions.
10:54 is what you came for
The real hero here.
Thanks! Nothing of interest
Idol!
King
Thx bro
That's a beautiful PRS.
Redundant...PRS guitars all look so great. When all this is COVID horror stabilizes I’m thinking of trying one out.
@@gregorymccasland2874 just play
Literally those first chugs just proved their point about tone and feel 💖
The new Nebula Silver Sky is so sexy.
Gregory McCasland I have 2 and they are very well made instruments.
oh my, hadn't thought of Gino Vannelli in years and years .....enjoyed all Tim Pierce's examples even though he was just doing little demos
Do yourself a favor and check out his recent offerings. Incredible!
I just gotta comment on how well a couple of professional musicians & producers can execute a remote session like this. The audio is great, video is perfect, no delay. Both of you are wearing monitors you can barely see. It just feels so natural to watch. Well done, Rick!
Did Tim just mention Nick Kershaw?
“Wouldn’t it Be” - a song I had completely forgotten about, but absolutely loved back in the day.
Such a brilliantly insightful episode and Tim’s humbleness and humility really are inspiring.
Even if it was for just one day
I learned more about real-world composition in that interview than in all the books and articles I've read.
All-time favorite interview for both you guys.
Totally so
This is like the ultimate guide for the aspiring session musician, for free.
“That 80’s thing” all I hear is the intro to the Zephyr song by the RHCP.
Same, mate😂
All I hear is the intro to "Love Like Blood" by Killing Joke.
@@karltheheretik because that is that. You right.
Same!
Kinda hilarious when listening to this interview, when one of the first things the main drummer in the Worship Band at our church told me during rehearsal a few years back was that modern day Worship Music is basically a combination of U2 and Coldplay, rofl! I'm not terribly familiar with Coldplay, but I had heard enough to know he was correct, and to hear those two bands (well, The Edge and Coldplay, lol) mentioned as (still) major influences in the studio ... brought out a chuckle.
Anyway, great interview. Rick Beato and Tim Pierce are two names that more people should know. Found Tim originally through this channel. Thanks, Rick!
School of “rock”. This should be mandatory for every guitarist🤟🏻
Xactly what I thought..
The outro to Warrant’s “Sometimes She Cries” is a beautiful piece of music. I wish it were 5 minutes.
Tim Pierce is the Bob Ross of music. Truly a special person
Tim has the number one trait of a successful working musician. He's totally chill and cool!
Is he a Mason? That is usually the #1 quality wanted in a musician by the music industry.
@@christophermyers8157 really??? Where did you learn that?
@@NoName-to5xl Where didn't you learn that, Masonic imagery and symbolism is ubiquitous in pop, rock, metal, jazz, and classical.
@@christophermyers8157 same can be said of 100 other philosophies. Gimme some pointers or i call BS.
@@NoName-to5xl I guess you are calling BS. Go ahead. Won't change the facts.
Tim Pierce is one of the greatest session players of all time!
7:36 I love Nick Kershaw =)
Hall and Oats outros are always amazing too. Daryl always goes off at the end.
7:43 wow! That resonated with me. My favorite song is the OUTRO piece of Layla by Eric Clapton (Derek and the Dominos) when the piano starts... :) It makes me cry
In Wash DC, 1970, I drove a p.u. truck across town. In the back was an upright piano. A friend was sitting back there playing that exact piece ....all across town, passing the WH, Congressional buildings, reflecting pools, Smithsonian, ....on and on.
This is something I've always wanted to know. Yeah we talk about the amazing guitar solos out there, but there is almost no interviews about the art of session musicians and rhythm guitars.
Rick and Tim are two world-class artists and teachers. Even if you have no idea about studio recording & music production there is so much that can be learned from their approach to the craft, their creative processes, the way they do team work, their professionalism, how they handle the negative aspects, how they keep the humor and lightness alive, and their work ethic. You can apply the lessons here to any craft or creative project.
at 17:44 "Not the greatest example" what?!? that was f***ing awesome. And Rick, such a great interviewer, he lets Tim complete his full thoughts every time without interruption.
Andy Summers influenced the edge and created most of those parts with an Eco Plex. Stewart Copeland actually bought the first echoplex in the band.
I love the Rick+Tim videos. These guys complement each other.
Tim is the blue collar guy who had to pick up the pace and learn theory as he went along.
Rick is the academic genius who had to grind through the dirt of the music business.
They should start a sitcom!
The mod couple.
@@paulburns1333 LOL PERFECT!!
Best 2 teachers on RUclips, period
These two guys are great no doubt. One other I'd add is session guitarist Tom Bukovac. If you haven't already, check out his channel. It's called "501chorusecho".
Have you tried Justnickmusic? He's been more helpful for me than these two have
Yes and no. Commentary, yes. Teachers, no. But they definitely are good though. Love watching both of them.
kilgoretrout321 yeah, his site is excellent...on many levels...
Jacob Haq, Samurai Guitarist, Steve Stine, Rick Beato
Rick, your Rolidex of friends is simply amazing !
Love the FUN and ENTERTAINING interviews.
Tim has a gift and worked extremely hard at perfecting his talent. That’s how he got to his level.
Tim Pierce is fantastic and when he says his favorite pop songs "build like a wedge" I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I loved that bit too, and I'm using the same approach with my own recordings :-)
What song is that?
@@badgasaurus4211 ohh "build like a wedge" is a description of the dynamics. Thanks mate I though it was a song. I just discovered the Edge recently & I want to analyze his style & tendencies. Can you name a few songs that has that "build like a wedge" kind of thing?
@@walterobrien467 "With or without you" by U2 is a perfect example of this. See also my answer to the user "shakarocks".
@@walterobrien467 Mysterious Ways by U2
Is it just me or did everyone feel like they just got to attend a masterclass for nothing?
It, certainly, is not just you sir :)
Given the fact that music is in a down spiral, those classes are nothing more than a means to make money. I saw one with Jeff Beck, and for all his greatness as a guitarist, he basically did nothing in his MC but play a few licks. All you aspirers out there: save your money and go out on your own paths - listen to whatever strikes your fancy and apply it towards creating a style that's both enjoyable and unique to you.
@@merrillmilner8717 This is why none of you will ever go anywhere.
Person 1: This is amazing, i'm so much better now!
Person 2: Yeah!
Person 3: *thinking people are going to listen to them when they're only interested in the cult of personality of Rick Beato*
Work. Work hard. That's it, that's the best advice you'll ever get. It's not sexy, it doesn't make you feel like you're an artist in the way watching a video does; but it's true.
100%
I most definitely feel the same way
It’s about time we get a part 2 of this ! Love hearing Tim’s stories of playing session guitar and Rick manages to coax out all these details.
Thank you Rick and Tim! This is just the kind of content I've been craving and needing. Truly inspiring! I wish I had more people like you all in my life to interact with and glean from... even inspired a song today! Thank you so much and God bless!
Tim Pierce is phenomenal! And, as an Italian, my heart melted when I discovered he played for Elisa on a Glenn Ballard's production (and he even called her a "huge artist").
The Alice song? Her version of Fur Elise?
@@danielamourose6361 I think he played on the "Carterpillar" album, a special release for overseas market of her album Soundtrack '96-'06. Not sure in which songs he plays though.
@@loxpower , oh, thanks Francesco. I'm gonna track down that album. I recently discovered Alice and she's great! I love her song Estate( hope I'm pronouncing that right), and knowing Tim is playing guitar somewhere on Caterpillar, its a " win-win"!!!!
Daniel Amourose well, you can just grab the album “Pearl Days” which was produced entirely by Ballard (and according to Wikipedia Tim plays on almost every track). It’s a masterpiece. Waves it’s one of the best song Elisa has ever written.
@@loxpower , ah, thanks for the tip for another gem, Franki!!!!
Rick's a great interviewer. Good questions. Knows when to talk and let's the story be told.
@S Green - ...and apologises when he does interrupt, too! Great guy! :-)
Love hearing you guys talk. Pure gold!
Could listen to you guys for days. Truly a master class with two insiders really taking us on a tour. More! :)
This guy's my type of guitarist. He's not flashy, but everything he plays sounds like a hit song.
Paul McMinotaur that’s because everything he plays is literally a hit song! 😁
Hes had a little expierience. Ha
Oh, but he does also know how to play "flashy"! But yes, he plays what serves the song :-)
all those cliches in hit songs...Tim is responsible for a lot of them...1 man wrecking crew...I still think he should have played the wah wah louder to Adele...what a way to get fired
@GuitarMusic - Exactly what I'd meant myself! :-)
I love that Rick is always introducing me to new stuff - bands, musos, songs, styles, techniques, music theory. Inevitably I then go and explore and learn more.
That was such a great and informative listen. Trying to keep people on board. Priceless. Well done Rick and Tim and thanks for sharing this stuff.
When Tim plays the 8th note all I could think of was The Cars.
I thought of “Turn it On” Genesis
Decades of assimilated experience from Tim and yourself condensed in to 45 minutes. Invaluable... at least to me. Thank you.
Tim Pierce killing it and going "Not the greatest example but...", and I am thinking - that is AWESOME! What a great interview.
What an absolute delight to listen to this show!!! So much good advice!
Honestly, the best and most educational/enlightening video about music making that I have ever seen anywhere.
And so down-to-earth! I can barely believe that this much knowledge has been shared with me for free.
Thank you, Rick and Tim. This probably is how music stays alive.
Great to see Gino Vannelli get a mention! Great video, more of the same please.
The guys in Detroit could read too. They were synthesizing jazz, blues and rock where they would often rewrite the arrangers parts. Standing in the Shadows of Motown tells it all.
I don't think that was his point. I think his point was Detroit didn't have a bunch of people walking in with huge charts for them to bang out.
@@ScutMonkey Sure they did, not for everything but quite often, they just didn't think the charts were always right. That's part of what drove Barry Gordie to LA. Those guys were starting to recognize their value and Gordie couldn't continue to take advantage of them ... regardless, not trying to fight a holy war here for a single side-comment in a really long video for us non-guitar players. It just struck me as an odd statement and seemed to deride to Motown folks a little ... but I think I've made the point ✌and stay well.
You see the new Motown docu Hitsville, it's excellent!
Motown was all about feel by extremely. Talented musicians. It still is. Its in the water.
These guys were "Feel" Superstars! The proof is that they still delight us 50+ years later!
It's always good to hear from these guys that aren't super famous, but still got to live their dreams while maintaining relatively normal lives/privacy.
The majority of the music industry in these guys, at least until they guest on your channel and get 1.2 million views...
"The best guitarist tones come from being really loud and playing really softly." I think Mark Knopfler's part on Brothers in Arms is a great example of this. Fantastic discussion - thanks guys!
Nada, Dimebag Darrel can trump Mark Knopfler any day of the week, and only lived half as long. It is matched, pickups, to amp, and style of play. Not a single part of the tone is not fundamental. Dimebag is one of the few guitar players that can be recognized from a single played note!
Woe to you who have foregone metal and the newer players in favor of your favorite tones. Angus Young is another example of all the way up in your face is better than subtlety. Subtlety and soft tones are for people who would rather not face reality and hide in their own velvet world.
I love Mark Knopfler also, but I can guarantee you will not put Dimebag in the same class as Knopfler even though he gave his life on stage for his playing.
@@christophermyers8157 first of all, "nada" doesn't mean "no", it means "nothing".
Second, I think you missed the point of the comment.
@@williamhogge5549 My point exactly you said nothing that means anything, you just purported your favorite players, have better tones than my favorite players, which I easily disproved. Now after you review my statement, it is clear I directly meant "nothing", and clearly not the word "no". Else I would have said Nein! Nein! Nein!
@@christophermyers8157 I said nothing about any player. You didn't prove or disprove anything.
That's all. I'm not wasting time playing your game.
"We could have it waaah, rolling in the wah wah" Kirk to Adele
U2’s The Edge and Coldplay’s Johnny Buckland are some of the main reasons I picked up electric guitar in the first place. Their stuff just works in recording sessions accents work off the cuff.
Possibly the best music making interview based around guitar, great job Rick & Tim, love your work!
Some really great gems of advice in here! Thanks Rick and Tim!
Gino Vanelli ,geez ,that's a Canadian name I almost forgot.