Behringer TM300 | Reviewing the Behringer TM300 for 2020 - Is it worth it?
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Behringer TM300 | Reviewing the Behringer TM300 for 2020
Decided to take another crack at this pedal, this time running directly into reaper with an IR loaded, since it doesn't actually have an IR in the pedal (didn't know that originally). Let me know what you guys think of the TM 300, is the tone good, or nah??
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This pedal can be used to power a cab? Excuse my ignorance lol
No, definitely not. It's a preamp pedal.
@@TaylorDanley Interesting. I think this is supposed to be a pretty close clone of the Sans Amp GT2.
I just got this for $20. Insane. 3 amps, 3 gain stages, and mic placement are not to bad. Compressor and overdrive/distortion in front and fx, not to shabby.
@@jamalan7417 it is behringer does another format for the same one the GDI 21
A random hidden feature: use a 1/4 jack to 1/8 converter to turn this into a headphone amp... decent number of use cases, and it actually sounds OK!
I do exactly that, when I practice 👍
Does this mean I can just run my guitar straight into this and listen to it or do I need something to boost the guitar signal?
@@pieslice I personally, use an mxr 6 band eq in the "chain" before this pedal. Not much of a boost, but more a tone shaping device. The eq pedal is in a frown face configuration, with the emphasis on the 800 frequency. The behringer pedal itself sounds very tight with the right pickups. I normally plug it into the effects return input of the amplifier, to bypass the amp section. With all this, these two pedals combined sound good to my taste. Just a Jackson King V, into these two pedals and whatever PA or amp there is, that has the effects loop inputs. If you are using a headphone jack converter like the person suggested earlier, it also sounds surprisingly good!
@@pieslice You'll need to raise the volume a bit, but on all of my IEMs it works as a functional headphone amp.
Oh nice tip! Thanks! l,,l,
This is hands down one of the best pedals available for under $100, and the price is just the icing on the cake.
Cheap or expensive, if it sounds good, it sounds good!
True! 🙌
Expensive sounding but cheap is my favorite.
Josh!
This. Screw the guitar snobs. If you like how it sounds and enjoy playing, that’s what matters. If you accomplish that by spending as little as possible, all the more better.
Sounds Better than most home amps mic'd
People sleep on behringer but honestly for how cheap their stuff is they have some cool shit. I wish they still made guitar cabs. Behringer was my first ever 412 and I had it for like 8 years before I had to swap a speaker in it. $200 new and it was built like a tank and I put it through hell playing metal/hardcore shows every other week
You're not the first person to tell me that! Yeah, I think they make a lot of great stuff... they also make some terrible stuff lol. I had a behringer mixer that I used for a lot of years, and really liked it. I also had an interface (ada something, cant remember) i used to slave into my other interface for recording drums. Worked/sounded great!
@@TaylorDanley i guess you mean ADA8000 or the newer upgraded version ADA8200, ADAT interfaces with 8 mic preamps, among their best products. Behringer makes some great affordable products.
@@Stefan- yes! That's the one! Ditched it a while back because I wasn't using it, but I remember it being great.
I have Behringer cab to this day. Has V30s in it now. Changed the handles because, for whatever reason, they put triangular handles on it- making it next to impossible to carry. The thing is a tank.
@@ivankrushensky The earlier ones had Jensen speakers. I had (borrowed for quite a while) one of their combo amps from that time period and it was fantastic. The amp modeler sounded pretty realistic and the effects were very good as well.I keep my eye out for those amps in pawnshops and places where one might turn up.
I’ve just ordered mine. Can’t wait to use it!
For £20??? Unreal. Absolutely AMAZING. When I started playing you couldn't get near that sound without spending hundreds and hundreds.
Yep, and you;d be buying a SansAmp GT2, which is what this pedal is a copy of.
I JUST ordered one from Sweetwater for $19!!! I'd give anything to have a Behringer sponsorship, their gear is GREAT, ACTUALLY AFFORDABLE, and plenty tough enough for my studio... We've all HEARD how "shoddy" the plastic boxes are, but I've NEVER MET A SINGLE PERSON that had one that ever broke, lol, so...
I’ve never had the plastic break, but the circuit components of my first HM300 crapped out on me after 1 1/2 months. All the other 300 series Behringers I’ve had have done just fine though.
they have very unethical business practices
@@billrobertjoe Who has unethical business practices? Do you mean Sweetwater, or Behringer? And what are you talkin about? I consider myself a HUGE Behringer fan, and I can HONESTLY say that I've NEVER heard that from a single person... So, please, inform me... Tell me what ya mean, please... I'm interested...
@@ck2music712 Behringer, just look up Behringer lawsuits
Officially the cheapest way to get the In Utero drive tone
On which setting british or california?
@leob4403 Cali mode set to Hi Gain and Classic mic. Drive maxed, highs just around 10 o clock, lows just above 3 o clock, and level to taste in front of a fender/mesa style clean. NirvanaGuitars has a video showcasing these settings in use
@@RubyRoks thanks I'll try that out got the pedal today
@@RubyRoks so just to get it straight, Cali mode is a mesa boogie right? I though Kurt used a fender amp?
@@leob4403 Cali Hi Gain is a model of a Mesa. Kurt's live rig since Nevermind was his pedals into a Mesa Studio Preamp into a rackmount poweramp. Because Mesa amps are ostensibly based on Fenders, a Fender amp gets close enough. The important thing is that Kurt used the pedal this is copying like a distortion pedal rather than as an amp replacement
I just got this pedal today and gave it a quick run-through. Ill spend more time with it this weekend but first impression- holy crap!! I have a Fender Champion 50XL, which is a pretty good amp but you can't really drive it without it getting rumbly. This pedal helps fix that. I can drive it pretty hard and eq between the pedal and amp fixes that issue so now it cranks no problem. This is a good boost pedal too. Loud as hell but controlled. I love it. Ill soon be getting eq, chorus, and delay for it, all Behringer.
This pedal is vital to my tone.
I love it! I keep it first in line in my FX loop, primarily on the tweed setting.
Putting a Tbe Screamer or even a Boss Metal Zone in front of it (pre-amp) is AWESOME!
can you please tell me the hours of the knobs on tweed amp to use this with the metalzone
If this pedal is vital to your tone, you're screwed.
@@milankotevski1663 found the gear snob...
@@bernardfoshage9901 can this help make a solid sound more like a tube amp?
@@lowercentenary yes
I run one of these into a 60w tube power amp and it sounds superb
Thanks for the review. Already on order. 👍👍👍
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Plastic can be very tough to break. Anyone old enough to remember slamming a telephone to hang it up?
Also those Arion pedals from the 80's were plastic and they are still out there working fine.
The Behringer ULTRA-G GI100 di box has speaker modelling I believe if you want a fully hardware option
Edit: Nux also has a (cheaper) di box with 2 speaker Sim settings. Works quite well.
I bought this pedal about 2 years ago, as it’s as close as I could get to a Sansamp modeler. I rarely use it for amp modeling specifically. I’ve found it’s great as a boost/overdrive/preamp, and is actually pretty versatile for tone building. Great pedal for $35. And though I don’t gig, and I’ve heard stories about the housings on Behringer pedals, this thing has held up rather well.
Even better at $20 now
Have you actually heard from someone who gigged with them and had one break? I've heard tons of people questioning the ruggedness of them, but actual testimony is thin on the ground...
@@realtrisk My brother and I have a couple of Behringer pedals, they don't break if you're not literally playing basketball with them. Though his Bass Graphic Equalizer isn't turning on reliably anymore, but I suppose that's not the housing's fault...
Also I got my Overdrive Distortion for literally 13 dollars, deal of my life if you ask me.
@@GrayKeyboard Probably that's just dirt under the contact switch. I've learned that if buttons or switches on things don't work, it is likely dirt and grime have gotten in there. It wouldn't surprise me that the Behringer pedals aren't sealed adequately and dust can get in. Should be an easy fix, though. I bet it'd be good as new after a little cleaning! :)
@@realtrisk I'll tell him to try that, thanks.
I've been using this pedal on my board for 2 years. I run the whole board into the return of my Orange rt35. I keep it on the tweed setting, and it sounds fabulous. I can use it as master volume, and can adjust it from my board and not have to go back to my amp, which is usually buried among the cymbal/hi hat/mic stand etc.
Its a superb little box.
In fact, ive just reminded myself to buy a spare one.
A future Classic. 👍
I'm the same way with the Behringer Amp version (GM110), which is this pedal, built into a 10 watt amp with Bass, Mid and Treble and effects loops, XLR Output, for a board and external speaker out if needed, etc. I have one I use, and one in my closet as a backup. For the price, it's worth having one on every floor of the house. And they cover everything from Eric Jonson Cleans, SRV Blues, AC/DC and full on metal. If you see one, buy it.
Very Cool Demo/Review Thankyou.
These are $20 bucks now. I'm ordering the whole line for a afford-a-board
I have bought about 14
Behringer pedals as the all are very impressive, especially for the price!
Lol, hell yeah me too. The noise limiter, the compressor, the tube overdrive. I'm even picking up the 2 channel direct box splitter.
same hahaha, just for live gigs
$25 now 😔😩
I paid $35 for this modeler, and more than that for the ultra feedback / distortion. The rest I got 25; ultra vibrato, ultra october, ultra metal, noise suppressor, and the tube screamer one.
Great review!
Great demo, pretty cool pedal too. can't believe the price
Just got one, my 335 through this pedal on the Brit setting, through a 60watt solid state fender with 12" speaker gave me instant woman tone, I'm very pleased. On the tweed setting, even when cranked , it maintained the fender tone stack
Woman tone?
Yeah no
Im actually looking for a men tone!
You mean Mentos? The fresh maker? Haaaaaaaa
@@KevinSparksatx Clapton's no bass tone.
I had the amp from behringer with the same mods of this pedal this is just my small amp in pedalform 🤘
The "Calif" is a Mess Mark Series...this pedal is basically a clone of a SansAmp
Thanks! I figured it was mesa something... the 5 min of research I did yielded no results, lol
That's exactly the amp mod config, as it was explained to me by a salesman today-- Mesa Boogie, Marshall, and Fender.
Cool demo. I dig these bargain pedals for sonic explorations. Cheers from L.A.
It's even better for the $29 I paid for it.
I've become a Behringer fan. I've got several. They are all pretty amazing, especially considering the price. The TM300 was the first of theirs I bought and I was pretty impressed. I ran mine through Cakewalk when I first got it and it sounds about the same going through my Fender SCXD. I don't know how durable it is, but if it breaks, I'll just buy another one.
I use mine as part of a pedal rig. Drives and comp into the Behringer, after the Behringer is a few time based pedals. Then it runs into an EHX 44 magnum into a closed back 2x12 v30 cab. Sounds like a beefy fender deluxe, also sizzles like a 5150 if wanted. The secret sauce to a clean tone is the tweed setting with low gain into a Xotic bb. Great vid. Get them tones.
This is the Sansamp Kurdt used. Nice for the money. I spend $350 on my original Sansamp. Love it.
I picked up mine last year for $25 not a bad little pedal! Sounds better then my Wampler Plexi Drive Deluxe and only a Quarter of the price.
Awesome!
@@TaylorDanley I should of said it cost an eighth of what the Wampler was.
A lot of people talk shit about Behringer/Bugera, but you get a LOT of tone for your $ with those folks.
ppl r shit, not the prod. they have no feeling n greedy like shitty human, not behringer.
No lie! That's no lie!
Many years ago, i had considered building a SansAmp GT2 clone. But just the parts, even the cheapest ones, wouldn't be cheaper than a Behringer device.
It is a note for note copy of a Sans Amp Gt2 and it can be used direct without IR's.
Ca sonne dès les premières notes, encore mieux qu'un overdrive ou autre distortion 👌👌
I ordered this pedal recently.
If you had no video of this demo, I would challenge anyone to tell the difference.
I've got a couple of Behringer pedals. My only gripe is the footswitch. If u take the thing off u can see a rubber prodder that hits a small button below. Just doesn't respond sometimes. The boss footswitch has never been bettered. You can rest on it well before pressing and then let rip.
It sounds freakin good
This is the most usefull demo
Tweed is Fender 59 Bassman. Brit is JCM 800. California is Mesa Boogie Dual Rec.
Thanks bro ! I subbed !
4 the buck a good entry point !
Fun pedal for the price. But all the sounds I heard sounded like varying degrees of boss metal zone played through a small combo amp that was somehow still inside the thick cardboard box that it was packed in. I'm willing to bet it sounds much better in a room, plugged into an amp with a decent eq, with speakers moving some air.
The GD1 21 which is an upgrade to this is a good value as it has a cab simulated XLR out..I have posted a recording demo of it a while ago..
yeah think the same but no I use a mooer radar with it and it became useless (and it sounds way better)
Excellent video
Thanks for this. I own the Tech 2 Sans Amp...the real deal, so I don't neecd it. But does a pretty good job nonetheless.
So could this thing be described as a “power amp” emulator (with some preliminary preamp features)?
I'm surprised. It actually sounds good. On sale for 25 beans at Sweetwater right now
Cool, man. cheers!!! From Los Angeles Jam night jammer. Play Kustom, Peavey, also house Marshall. Mostly Strats, some borrowed SG's especially for AC/Dc and occasional Les Pauls.
I just bought one of these a comp sis the green overdrive a delay multi Fx and a stereo reverb .. all for a 102.00 pretty good deal
I got this and their echo pedal for less than 40 bucks. Sweetwater was having a deal on em. I should've got more, but I love em
I bought two of these back in the day and both were DOA. If you can get a working one I'm sure it sounds just like a sansamp. I gave up trying. Good luck!
I like the clean high :-)
The very first setting played through this pedal sounds like the guitar tone used on AFI's Black Sails on the Sunset. Very cool.
Haha yes! I was thinking the same thing. Very Jade Puget.
I bought one of these over a year ago but was not impressed.
A few days ago however I hooked it up again and was pleasantly surprised.
I use a Katana 50 MK II as my amp and one thing I noticed immediately was that the TO800 pedal sounds so much better when going through the TM300! It actually sounds good to me, and I like the sound of the Tweed - Clean with the gain at just below 50%. Sounds nice and bright.
Worth the pathetically low cost I would say.
What do you guys think about this for a synth? I have already ordered a fuzz and a tube distortion, and I have a chorus pedal in hand.
For $35 how do you think it compares to something like the Mooer modeling preamps? Assuming you have a cab/power solution live, could you see yourself using it in a pinch?
Hmm. Yes, if you had a power amp/cab, definitely you could use it. I think the sound quality is great, especially for the price. It's hard to say compared to a mooer micro preamp, but in the same situation I think it would probably perform similarly. Thanks for the question!
This sounds great to me.
I would not use this pedal when plugging into an amp. I am looking for pedal that will replace the amp when playing live through PA or recording at home. I simply want it on my pedalboard to immitate the amp. Is this good solution for this kind of use?
I'm pretty certain that the TM300 does have built-in speaker emulation. It's a clone of the Sansamp GT2, which according to its manufacturer, has speaker emulation. It also said you could record direct or plug in to amp
I tried plugging it in direct, it sounds terrible. I had someone comment a while back that the microphone options are really just eq curves and it's meant to be ran in front of a clean amp. 🤷♂️
@@TaylorDanley If the terrible sounding part you are talking about is how much high end it has, the GT2 also has that when plugged direct (judging from the demos I have seen). But physical rigs can also get those kind of tones. For example, the Seek & Destroy song. So I don't think that means it doesn't have cabinet emulation.
From what I understand, EQ curves are how a lot of simpler cab sims work. And the GT2 is apparently an analog pedal. Here's the manual for it if you want to check that out: www.tech21nyc.com/t21manuals/GT2-OM.pdf
@@sociallydistantmusicchanne9318 sorry I should be more specific. When running direct, it sounds like a preamp. Just like running a distortion pedal direct into an interface. I made a video on it a while back running it that way and got crucified in the comments over it. 🤷♂️ either way, it definitely sounds much better running it with some sort of speaker after.
@@TaylorDanley I guess what he tried to tell you is: "Speaker emulation" isn't the same as IRs. Many simple devices did speaker emulation by just applying some EQ curve. It's an analog pedal - IR would involve some kind of logic to implement IR convolution.
The Sansamp pedals were mostly used as kind of distortion pedal... Nirvana's In Utero guitar tone is built on it.
this pedal have built in sim cab right? what happen if u try it without cabinet or ir loader?
Considering that the Fender Twin Reverb is not a tweed amp, I'd venture to say that's not it. 😉 I would think it would be going for something that's actually a tweed, the most likely candidate being the Bassman.
Bingo. It's a 59 Bassman.
Mine is loud!! But it's so nice with my Crush 35rt
If I have distortion and overdrive pedals on my signal chain is this helpful?
I bought one a few years ago and misunderstood it also. Didn't use it at all. Then discovered it was Behringer's version of the Tech 21 SansAmp GT2. I was adjusting it wrong.
This is how reviews should be done.
I was thinking about using this to boost my rat pedal which is looped into a big muff, think it will do wonders?
I have two and use them all the time. It actually has a speaker emulation, that is why you have the mic-position switch. You can't mike up a pre-amp, can you? It still sounds good through an amp though.
I think you got some great sounds out of it at the end. Its even cheaper at Thomann BTW just 21 euro.
Snap, thanks for the heads up! Wonder about shipping though 🤔 the price on amazon seems to fluctuate a bit.
@@TaylorDanley Yeah, the shipping might be high to the USA, i actually made the comment more for others to see that might be in Europe like me (Sweden). The shipping to Sweden is low though and if you buy for over 199 euro the shipping is free.
@@Stefan- good point! I've actually found a bunch of things that are cheaper in thomann, even after shipping (cymatic LP-16 for example)
I just played mine tonight through a Tweed Custom 57. I think the British one is a Vox and the California is a Fender Blackface. Both the British and the California sound great. The Tweed? I'll just use my Tweed.
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I'm no expert, but I have a Vox and a Twin Reverb.
Does somebody have tried this and the V-Tone and could say which one is better in your opinion?
Can the pedal be switched between clean and lead/hot? (Like the Boss IR-2)
I'm looking to buy my first overdrive pedal. Do you think this is a good overdrive or OD replacement pedal? sounds good enough for me.
I cant answer that question, it's totally dependent on what result you're after and how you're using it. That said, this is more of a preamp than a distortion pedal. It's meant to simulate popular amplifiera
Hi Taylor, a question from budget land for you. Would a unit like this work well for recording, in conjunction with a multi-fx like the Boss ME-80. The ME-80 is known to have great effects, but lousy amps. The idea being to go from guitar to ME-80 to this device to audio interface to DAW / IR. Thanks.
I'm not the guy, but I've done this with great success. You could also mic your amp, and line into your AI and DAW for the same effect
@@colinbanning9416 Yes thanks for the reply. Mic’ing not an option where I live, hence the question. This kind of device would be a substitute for a real amp in a recording context.
@@accentontheoff Ah ok, well you can definitely help shape the tone on it's way into your source, and you will get $20 worth of value out of it. Behringer is made for bedroom artists, I'd highly recommend it
@@colinbanning9416 Don’t mind spending more if there is a better option. Although virtual amps are also there.
Can i put nux solid studio after this pedal?
*so you are using no poweramp or poweramp vst?*
Everybody else likes the tweed but it is way much quieter than the other models.
if it has "mic placement" models, then doesn't it technically have "speaker emulation," meaning technically it has a speaker/cab IR or something that practically serves that purpose?
So do we here just the pedal or in combination with the IR ?
If it's a Sansamp clone it has some speaker emulation going on, but it's not a match to an IR cab.
Yay Reaper!
Looks like the Behringer vtone GDi21 pedal in a different pedal make up. I bought one years ago new for about 25 bucks. Now I see them on Ebay over 100 bucks. people are crazy
definitely usable for classic stuff though. I wish Behringer had come out with modern amps. At this price point, they will actually sell like hotcakes. \m/
Can be usted to play some metallica solos?
I saw another video, but with less explanation and seems very similar to Metallica first 3 strings on the solos
Just got this few hours ago. By the way, where would I put this in the pedal board?
Treat it like your amp and run your boosts/compressors in front and your post effects (delay,reverb) after!
Any idea what the difference between this and the GDI21 Vtone? They seem to be the same one with XLR out.
The GDI21 has a DI box fearure and has an XLR jack on top. You can directly plug your instrument cable in the IN jack and the XLR is the OUT that goes to the house mixer. You can't use the amp modeller while the stompbox is in DI mode though.
Just got one for $20…can’t complain
Great review !! One of the fewest who don't just noodle but give an actual review.
How does this this pedal fair with high output pickups?
Thanks! Same as you would expect with an amp or similar gear. No negative effect with active or high output.
@@TaylorDanley thanks a lot!! I was going to go for the boss katana mini but after seeing this I was torn. What do u recommend for a guy with a squier mustang?
@@jeremiedsouza6703 I would say go for a boss katana mk 2, trust me. Weather you go for the head or the combo is up to you, if you don't have a lot of money to spend I would recommend going for a 50 watt combo. It's loud enough to keep up with a drummer and has a ton of effects already in it
Also, wouldn't hurt to put in better pickups for your squire. Their pickups aren't trash but they still leave a lot to be desired. I recommend a used set of Seymour Duncans on reverb or something
@@ZorroTheWevile thanks man!! I'm afraid I already went for the pedal. It sounds great and since I already had a good sound system all to myself I was kinda inclined to go for a pedal. Also I bought a second hand schecter that came fully loaded fr a huge discount. Thanks fr the suggestion tho I appreciate it
@@jeremiedsouza6703 get the behringer hyperfuzz clone (i think they call it super fuzz). i have an actual hyperfuzz and the squier bullet mustang sounds better with it than my 2 gibsons and fender tele deluxe
This pedal should be run into the line in of an amplifier, bypassing the amplifier's preamp. You can then run your board through it. It's a really great device!
OMG! I have GDI-21 and I wasn't satisfied with the sound when mixed with my other pedals. You, dude, are a GENIUS! Now I plug directly into Insert jack of my amp and the sound is fantastic, even though I have to keep the volume really low. I stepped accidentaly on the GDI-21 and my neighbours hate me now, because the amp got full volume of my guitar :D
or PA ;)
THIS PEDAL ONE OF BEST PEDAL
Kurt cobain sans amp settings basically at 11:36
Use your input setting | Bass 9-10 | Treb 1-2 | Drive: heavy where it dosnt squeel and get too noisy
mic:center | mod:hi gain | amp:cali
This seem so much simpler than my 1 pedal the Grand Canyon. I use it for that Rockabilly Brad Pasley sound but its got a lot of spacey sounds and I think the looper caves in on it self with what seems like a Tempo falling off a bit.
I have a Grand Canyon and it's so complicated that I feel like selling it 😒
Do you always keep the level all the way up?
What amplifiers is this pedal simulating?
I believe the California simulates the Mesa Boogie.. if I'm not mistaken..
I want to buy something the blue color looks nice maybe I need it :) Peace !
hi, what amp did you use when it recoding?
should i use it with my ultrametal behrnger pedal?
My GD1 21 pops between mod changes which isn't workable through the PA...Who wants to hear pops? Does this pop since it's just the GD1 21 in a different format
I have the original version of this, the GDI21 as well as the vintager amp which uses this circuit as it's preamp, and really like it with it being about the only good low end Behringer amp that was ever produced 20 years ago, *but like virtually all Behringer pedals, the pots go bad.*
I actually have a college background in the science of electrical/electronics engineering, so I reseated the solder joints, cleaned the pots with contact cleaner, an air hose etc., but on every GD Behringer budget pedal, they just go bad and are a huge PITA to fix.
I have a ton of high end gear, but I'm never willing to spend big money on stomp boxes I can literally build and mod designs to be better, but I'd rather design something from scratch than waste my time on what is always inferior to my own original designs.
Does this have a power amp to drive a cab, like the orange terror stomp, or just preamp?
Just preamp
It's the Russian made Gamma Tube Amp Emulator to a T. Fender, Marshal, Mesa Boogie