Quick tips: use dynamite as soon as you get it. Always look where you coach gun. Jump when you coach gun. Don’t hold onto Bob too long and use his knockup to your advantage. Always be on high ground
@@At0micMeltd0wn I never do blame my team in the end, I make dumb decisions and I blame myself usually. Thank you and I'll hopefully be higher in rank next time!
If you couldn't tell from Sty's reactions, you can just point straight down and use the coach gun to boost high into the air. Then just move forward as you fly up to get onto a platform. No need to 180 angle jump. ^_^
i wanna know what rank this is because even I havent seen players that bad back when I was at like 600 with my 3fps, unless theyre bots (which she isnt bc bots do absolutely nothing and she actually did heal i think) or i guess afk but oof
When Ashe finally took high ground and moved back to the edge, I think she was giving Mercy a lift up. Cannot say how annoying it is to play Mercy, want to get to an allied sniper, but they won't move to the edge of high ground to let you up.
Sty I'm gonna help you out here and explain a couple phenomenon for you (even though you probably already realize this). First, lower level players are more comfortable on the ground because on high ground, you have to aim left, right, up, and down. If you're on the ground, you only have to move left and right. You don't even have to move the mouse, you can just strafe, and it's easier to hit targets if your aim is less than stellar. It's not ideal, but I guarantee you that's why people end up on the ground. The same principle applies to players being sucked towards fights. Most people I think are using too high of a sensitivity and when they're farther from a fight, the heads are smaller, harder to hit. Being closer with bigger targets triggers something in your mind, tells you you can make those shots where in the back you just click, click, click and you hit nothing. Even though these things get them killed, this is why they're jumping off high ground and being sucked into close quarters fighting. The solution is to play reaper (jk, but not really).
I think that's not it for the high ground, there's also the fact that usually you're alone on the high ground, so when the enemy teams spots you, you feel more vulnerable, because there are no shields or allies to bodyblock for you, you're in the open, so when you start getting focused you kinda want to go back with your team because it feels safer.
nacotee is on point with that comment, most people who gravitate off the high ground in lower elos do it because they feel disconnected from the team /aka subconsciously feeling less vulnerable in the pack. Then there's also the subconscious way of correlating being a part of the fight with actually physically being in the fight. Most lower elo players don't see the apparent value they get from being outside of the main fight. Since it feels to them like they should be "in the fight" with the rest of their team, they fail to realize that their value is provided most effectively when they stick to their high ground or flank angle. They don't see the value of creating crossfire and expanding the enemy's attack angle because it's not obvious if you don't think about it. In the end, many lower elo players just end up acting without really thinking why they do what they do. If the fight is happening somewhere, they just gravitate towards it similar to how tunnel vision works. It's like "im up here but the fight is down there, I should get closer to the fight and be more productive, help contest the objective, etc". It's similar to the habit of looking into the ground because you look where you're gonna move towards, instead of looking forward and preparing for potentially having to engage someone. It's just a force of habit that automatically happens when the tunnel vision kicks in.
This isn't really a "defense" because I know it's a problem I and other players need to work on, but as some insight to why the player kept jumping down; I genuinely have a harder time hitting my shots at an angle than I do on the ground. There is that huge temptation of "ugh I'm not hitting anything, I need to jump down." And it's something that I think players like myself need to work on.
Hey Stylosa, I think it would be cool if you could coach your own gameplay from 2016/2017. I'd like to hear your thoughts about your own gameplay 3 years ago.
The coach gunning behind is something I see a lot of Pharah players do as they're used to using concussion to get air and a little boost forwards I find.
I don’t know if Sty mentioned it already, but another big tip for making your shots is to just slow down a little. Not every shot has to be immediately fired! Breathe and make sure you’re aiming correctly before firing. You’ll get faster over time, but before going for speed, make sure you’re hitting the target Edit: I think patience is also why Osarys keeps giving up the high ground. I’m sure he sees enemies and thinks “I can get a better shot on this one enemy by dropping down”, but by chasing that one kill you give up a few others
As an ashe main, i see loads of people making the mistake of not being patient with their shots as well as their dynamite. When you chuck out a dynamite don't be afraid to give it some time to travel. When you start missing headshots I find it helpful to get behind cover, take a few deep breaths while reloading, and then count my shots. *Shot* 1-one-thousand, *Shot* 2-one-thousand. This brings my pace down so I can regain focus and avoid panic.
I can feel this player's instincts, and they're great, just gotta mold them for OW. I can feel him gravitating towards the obj in those tense situations, when he can get a lot more value from playing the obj from other places. It's not a bad instinct for other games, but self-sabotage for OW, 4/5 times
Didn't blizzard change is such that the select screen doesn't boot up until everyone loads in. It was an effort to make it "fair" for people selecting what heroes they want iirc
@@LeCatization Not that I'm aware of. But it does set the timing of inactivity kicking and thus ending the game early to just the right amount of time. So you either load in and pick or you get kicked and the game ends with no penalty to your team.
When I first used Ashe gun with that skin I lost my mind and said the exact same thing “Who at blizzard thought this scope was a good idea? Who? WHO???? Why?”
The hardest thing before i got out of plat was telling Lower Sr players to back off don't 1v6 the point. It's like they think in reverse.. and will flame you for not dying 1v6 lol. Kinda silly. Edit: props to him for aiming decently for a bronze player... with that horrid scope.
Exacly. I'm diamond and every time I play on my other account in silver/gold and am backing off or waiting for my team to respawn, they're starting to flame me for "doing nothing" XD
Barthez Muzyka It sucks man. I climbed to masters across my roles but it’s hard to play at gold or low plat ( not gonna mention silver or bronze) just keep at it, focus on you. There is a reason people have 500 plus hours and haven’t climbed or improved. They either don’t care or are to prideful to look at their own mistakes, and I mean that across the board. DPS, Healer and Tank. You got this 👍🏽
Something that I have experienced in lower ranks is a fearlessness of players pursuing sniper characters, Ashe included. In higher levels of play if an enemy Junkrat runs away from his team to pursue you as a sniper he will get killed by you and/or your team. In lower ranks strategy goes out the window and teams often leave lone enemy players to freely engage your backline. I state this because it ends up creating bad habits and makes for some strange player behavior, like jumping down into the fray to simply try and get to safety or get the attention of your healer.
@@johhada9304 I guess I could watch every single analysed video, thats true. I feel like I know a lot about the game, though I learned just a little bit more from this one
As a person who has spent most of their Overwatch career in bronze/silver: Bronze/Silvers first priority is always to babysit the payload. They likely jumped down at 20:20 because they felt the need to contest. Not thinking that killing the Rein would stop that; But they needed to be there to do it physically. Bronze and Silvers will prioritize the payload even after a team kill. You will get flamed for suggesting either A. that a portion, if not 4 or 5 of the team move forward to fight further up to get more uncontested push on the cart (Think after point A on Kings Row) or B. giving up some ground (on defense) to give your team positional advantage. I think this is the main reason why bronze/silver dont maintain high ground. Next to not knowing what high ground does for your positional advantage. They must be on cart. 5 on cart for faster push. etc.
Bronze worried about payload? You are overestimating them. Dude. Most of the Bronze dps mains if not all are playing Team Death match in Overwatch of Duty.
8:41 I disagree here. Since the Junkrat was spamming the hallway, going to the side would have been the worst thing to do since reaper was coming in during the spam. Them retreating was actually good
I'm pretty sure you HAVE to coach gun backwards because it knocks you back backwards. But anyhow, another tip for Ashe players is to reload whenever you're not in danger. Even if it's just two bullets, it could save your life depending. I say this because the more bullets she uses, the longer her reloading takes, meaning you'll be a sitting duck and a very easy target.
The mouse sensitivity tip was a nice add, I just started playing OW again after a year, and my mouse sensivity used to be perfect for me but now I just fly around the map and keep dying lmao! So it's a little hard to find that perfect sensivity again
As for why our Ashe player is coach-gunning backwards, it might be just a knowledge thing, because intuitively you think it's how it works, as in, it doesn't have forward momentum. I remember everyone did it when Ashe first came out, before we all realised we can just run and aim straight down and it conserves forward momentum. OP, if you're reading, this is for you. Use it.
35:09 There is a name for the phenomenon where people randomly charge into a fight, it's called "Target Fixation" also called "Tunnel vision" We're hardwired that way and it takes training to get out of it. Inexperienced motorcyclists often get into accidents because of it.
There is a term for the tendency to get sucked into the middle of a team fight: target fixation. Target fixation is probably the deadliest thing in Overwatch at any level.
Honestly some people get good games most if the time in bronze. Like me. I get 13k per round as reaper and still in bronze, it's just some times an off day.
Was trying out ashe in the training room, I noticed her shots are much more punishing than mccree and widowmaker. Both those heroes you can have the reticle on the red outline of the enemy's silhouette and it will still register a hit, but with ashe, it will always miss.
@@chainer8686 Are you sure you did it in the same place, each of these heroes are hit-scan so there isn't any travel time and therefore no need for different hit-boxes. Maybe your aim was off with Ashe.
@@amadhatter3280 at first I was moving around, but when I clearly saw I was hitting fewer shots with ashe, I just stood still in the spawn room looking out to the two bots visible from inside, and just swapped between heroes trying my best to keep the dot set at it's smallest size in the same location. Later I moved around to other locations. I didn't just take one shot and assume the hero was bugged, I spent a good 20 mins trying to recreate each. I do have to point out that I don't have a gaming monitor, so its possible that even with pixels looking exactly the same, that aim could have still been off by a very tiny margin, however at the same time, even if Iwas using an old tube monitor I doubt it would have been enough to be the deciding factor, but considering ashe was the only one consistently missing shots while the others were hitting every one, even when positioned unfavorably, made me come to this conclusion. If you set your mouse to have an extremely low sensitivity, like 1, and your dpi higher you can every so slightly move your mouse at your deask while see it remain stationary on screen when in reality its moving in game by ammounts that cannot be seem on screen. I urge others to test it out, of course the hits will register on all heroes as long as you're within the outline of the silhouette, this is how roadhog's hook and doomfist's rocket punch can land even when the target belives they are safe standing still.
I haven't watched the video yet, I'm about to. But I just wanna say your videos are brilliant and I'm learning so much. I'm also binging the "overanalyzed" series 👍🏻 thanks for the tips
The thing of jumping down there is because usually people are just shouting at people to contest the payload and thrashing if anyone is not at the payload after that. People are commanding everyone to contest. They do not know who would be the ideal person to contest it, which is Orisa, Rein,Wrecking Ball, or just the main tank generally.
Sty I love you man and you're my favorite OW commentator but please try to finish your thoughts! You go off in 100 directions with the game paused sometimes without finishing any of the threads you started and it gets a little frustrating. It's not a huge deal really, just something I've noticed a few times. Anyway, hope you're well and keep up the great videos man.
He'll be coaching gunning from behind because it gives you abit more momentum towards where you want to go. I personally didn't even know you could look straight down and coach gun to get on high ground ahead of you
non-ADS firing is actually quite useful is more circumstances than you give it credit for, because it has a higher DPS than ADS firing. It's really good for bursting down big hitbox targets, like tanks or even barriers. The only downside is it uses up a LOT more ammo, so generally, you would only hipfire when you know you can disengage and pop a reload behind cover.
"Why do people get sucked into a fight? Why do they move towards the enemy?" Answer is simple: Aim. Especially as you go down in ranks, the closer the target is the easier it is to hit. That's the mentality at least. But that's just a theeeoooryyyyyyyy!
I dont think it's because of aim. Mostly anyways. I used to do this, but I think its more of "hey all the action is over there I want a piece of that action" and for me it's not really something I really noticed I did until someone pointed it out to me..it just felt right. I may be wrong but if you asked the guy why he did that I would honestly expect him to say "idk". Lol
@@FlappyDragon98 I agree that it's probably 90% a subconscious thing but the driving force behind overwatch is killing the enemy team, which means hitting them, which means aim. Being part of the action makes sense too but I think the reason lower ranks do it more than higher ranks is because you get better at aiming the higher your rank is, so you feel the need to get closer less and less. That's my theory anyway.
The one thing I have notice in high gold low dimond is most people don't know how to back off when enemy ults and re engage after the ult and how Not to poke whewaitting to regourp have lost to many games to people trying to poke
@@fabianreder9780 I think the word he's looking for is "plat" but honestly it's probably everywhere until diamond. Whenever I play with my friends I'm always like "OK back off let's regroup.. no no ACTUALLY back off, way more, get off the chok- STOP POKe-- *ding* _ally dies_ ". People always think "If I'm careful I can poke and get free ult charge while I wait! Im a genious".
I guess the definition of throwing has changed to mean "made a bad decision"? I I liked it better when throwing meant intentionally doing things to try to get your team to lose and purposely not trying.
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Ashe kills herself
Ashe after spawning back “I’m gonna get you for that”
Ashe dies, ashe then kills herself again. Ashe misses shots ashe I'm gonna go for that
ashe broke the 4th wall, watch out whoever sent this, ashe is coming for you irl
its his teammate's fault
insert the black guy with gun meme here
Trust no one, not even yourself
Thank you Sty! I know I made a few bad decisions on this match but I'll try to improve from here!
Osarys
I mean you're bronze, it's expected. Just don't blame your team.
You can't control your team, but you can control your performance.
Quick tips: use dynamite as soon as you get it. Always look where you coach gun. Jump when you coach gun. Don’t hold onto Bob too long and use his knockup to your advantage. Always be on high ground
@@At0micMeltd0wn I never do blame my team in the end, I make dumb decisions and I blame myself usually. Thank you and I'll hopefully be higher in rank next time!
@@gg.no.re. Will do, thank you!
If you couldn't tell from Sty's reactions, you can just point straight down and use the coach gun to boost high into the air. Then just move forward as you fly up to get onto a platform. No need to 180 angle jump. ^_^
"If she doesn't move and you're shootin there I'm leavin"
*mercy doesnt move and dies*
*sty has left the chat*
i wanna know what rank this is because even I havent seen players that bad back when I was at like 600 with my 3fps, unless theyre bots (which she isnt bc bots do absolutely nothing and she actually did heal i think) or i guess afk but oof
sty finally had seen it all.
@@michaelak6753 its literally in the title lol
When Ashe finally took high ground and moved back to the edge, I think she was giving Mercy a lift up. Cannot say how annoying it is to play Mercy, want to get to an allied sniper, but they won't move to the edge of high ground to let you up.
this overanalysed resumed with one word: WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
Sty I'm gonna help you out here and explain a couple phenomenon for you (even though you probably already realize this). First, lower level players are more comfortable on the ground because on high ground, you have to aim left, right, up, and down. If you're on the ground, you only have to move left and right. You don't even have to move the mouse, you can just strafe, and it's easier to hit targets if your aim is less than stellar.
It's not ideal, but I guarantee you that's why people end up on the ground. The same principle applies to players being sucked towards fights. Most people I think are using too high of a sensitivity and when they're farther from a fight, the heads are smaller, harder to hit. Being closer with bigger targets triggers something in your mind, tells you you can make those shots where in the back you just click, click, click and you hit nothing.
Even though these things get them killed, this is why they're jumping off high ground and being sucked into close quarters fighting. The solution is to play reaper (jk, but not really).
I think that's not it for the high ground, there's also the fact that usually you're alone on the high ground, so when the enemy teams spots you, you feel more vulnerable, because there are no shields or allies to bodyblock for you, you're in the open, so when you start getting focused you kinda want to go back with your team because it feels safer.
Also "Holy shit gotta contest!" reflex makes jump off the high ground
also on high ground you are not in low level supports eyes so you feel like you must go back to ground to get heal.
nacotee is on point with that comment, most people who gravitate off the high ground in lower elos do it because they feel disconnected from the team /aka subconsciously feeling less vulnerable in the pack. Then there's also the subconscious way of correlating being a part of the fight with actually physically being in the fight. Most lower elo players don't see the apparent value they get from being outside of the main fight. Since it feels to them like they should be "in the fight" with the rest of their team, they fail to realize that their value is provided most effectively when they stick to their high ground or flank angle. They don't see the value of creating crossfire and expanding the enemy's attack angle because it's not obvious if you don't think about it.
In the end, many lower elo players just end up acting without really thinking why they do what they do. If the fight is happening somewhere, they just gravitate towards it similar to how tunnel vision works. It's like "im up here but the fight is down there, I should get closer to the fight and be more productive, help contest the objective, etc". It's similar to the habit of looking into the ground because you look where you're gonna move towards, instead of looking forward and preparing for potentially having to engage someone. It's just a force of habit that automatically happens when the tunnel vision kicks in.
This is me... Its so much more comfortable on the floor
This isn't really a "defense" because I know it's a problem I and other players need to work on, but as some insight to why the player kept jumping down; I genuinely have a harder time hitting my shots at an angle than I do on the ground. There is that huge temptation of "ugh I'm not hitting anything, I need to jump down."
And it's something that I think players like myself need to work on.
Hey Stylosa, I think it would be cool if you could coach your own gameplay from 2016/2017. I'd like to hear your thoughts about your own gameplay 3 years ago.
I concur with the sentient lifeform.
Yess good idea
^
with all the patches they've done to the game it might not be a good idea
This needs more likes or more comments yes I want to see him coach his self
30:45 sty sounds like junkrat when he laughed LUL
exactly the same yeah
I agree
I was looking for that comment xd
@@yornyaofficial LULW
IKR
RUclips cut off the title on my phone to say overanal
Lol
That's the only reason why I clicked on the video. What is this overwatch? And where is the overanal???
nice
XD
Lol that’s awesome ha
This video made me realize that in platinum I am still coachgunning up backwards
Get a greenscreen it would be so much better for coaching videos, your facecam wouldn't be in the way of your beautiful scribbles
”Don’t die”
Pretty much my life motto
mine's the opposite
@@johhada9304 shouldn't it be for everyone? i mean we die someday anyway.
10:41 is the perfect "Omai wa mou shinderou" moment.
"Omae wa mou shindeiru"*
It is actually a good Omai wa mou shindaru moment
NANI
The coach gunning behind is something I see a lot of Pharah players do as they're used to using concussion to get air and a little boost forwards I find.
*Osarys Hipfires and hits*
Stylosa "ADS, it does more damage"
*Osarys ADS' and misses every shot*
Wait, I thought Hipfire had more close/mid-range dps
Hipfire does never deal more dmg per shot
@@tobiaspieringer1653 dps as in damage per second
@@apocolototh1948 you must play below gold
NVM, I checked, hipfire has 80-160 dps, ADS has 60.7-121.4
I don’t know if Sty mentioned it already, but another big tip for making your shots is to just slow down a little. Not every shot has to be immediately fired! Breathe and make sure you’re aiming correctly before firing. You’ll get faster over time, but before going for speed, make sure you’re hitting the target
Edit: I think patience is also why Osarys keeps giving up the high ground. I’m sure he sees enemies and thinks “I can get a better shot on this one enemy by dropping down”, but by chasing that one kill you give up a few others
Thank you!
29:39 Are we not gonna talk about ashes hat turning into a slim jim
British people: We aren't like how Americans stereotype us...
Also British people: 34:31
Hey, I'd gladly take jokes about those stereotypes over "Generic Brexit joke" any day. :p
Literal 3Head moment
Yu fukin wot M8?
You havin' a giggle?
@@CommunistFBI FUKKIN DEVVO M8
No one is talking about how Ashe’s hat just decided to extend by like 3 feet at 29:39
The backwards coach gun into the junk rat was hilarious
10:38 OMG this is so perfect 😂😂😂
probably coach gunning backwards due to the assumption of the knock back will always push you backwards.
"If she doesn't move and you shoot her in the head... I'm leaving."
**(does exactly that)**
**(Sty has left the chat.)**
As an ashe main, i see loads of people making the mistake of not being patient with their shots as well as their dynamite. When you chuck out a dynamite don't be afraid to give it some time to travel. When you start missing headshots I find it helpful to get behind cover, take a few deep breaths while reloading, and then count my shots. *Shot* 1-one-thousand, *Shot* 2-one-thousand. This brings my pace down so I can regain focus and avoid panic.
30:45 how weird is it that sty actually sounds like junkrat hahaha
You have the same laugh as Junkrat when he had been killed by him xD
24:58 LMAO made my day! 😂😂😂
I can feel this player's instincts, and they're great, just gotta mold them for OW. I can feel him gravitating towards the obj in those tense situations, when he can get a lot more value from playing the obj from other places. It's not a bad instinct for other games, but self-sabotage for OW, 4/5 times
32:21 "I love my sister" "but mum doesn't know" 🤣🤣
I was looking for someone who noticed😂
25:00 I just lost it when that happened
I love the kids who spray mid fight a lose the fight.
I was getting mad triggered at this!!!
I will emote mid team fight instead lmao
Realistically that guy just loaded in and that's why he was only choosing his character. Very common in Bronze.
Didn't blizzard change is such that the select screen doesn't boot up until everyone loads in. It was an effort to make it "fair" for people selecting what heroes they want iirc
@@LeCatization Not that I'm aware of. But it does set the timing of inactivity kicking and thus ending the game early to just the right amount of time. So you either load in and pick or you get kicked and the game ends with no penalty to your team.
@@zadinal they changed it a little bit ago. i think with sigmas release. or before . but they def made it so you cant shoose until everyone is loaded.
You can choose before everyone is loaded in, I experienced this about 2 hours ago. I loaded in as we began setting up our defences on Havana.
When I first used Ashe gun with that skin I lost my mind and said the exact same thing
“Who at blizzard thought this scope was a good idea? Who? WHO???? Why?”
Nobody:
Drill Sargaent Sty: GET THE HIGHGROUND!!!
Sergeant*
It's over Anakin! Ash has the high ground!
...... I wanna go back to bronze
seems more fun
This is the most entertaining OverAnalyzed I've ever seen lol
Something good to entertain me while I’m hungover. Thanks Sty!
Me too lol
The hardest thing before i got out of plat was telling Lower Sr players to back off don't 1v6 the point. It's like they think in reverse.. and will flame you for not dying 1v6 lol. Kinda silly.
Edit: props to him for aiming decently for a bronze player... with that horrid scope.
Exacly. I'm diamond and every time I play on my other account in silver/gold and am backing off or waiting for my team to respawn, they're starting to flame me for "doing nothing" XD
Barthez Muzyka It sucks man. I climbed to masters across my roles but it’s hard to play at gold or low plat ( not gonna mention silver or bronze) just keep at it, focus on you. There is a reason people have 500 plus hours and haven’t climbed or improved. They either don’t care or are to prideful to look at their own mistakes, and I mean that across the board. DPS, Healer and Tank. You got this 👍🏽
Something that I have experienced in lower ranks is a fearlessness of players pursuing sniper characters, Ashe included. In higher levels of play if an enemy Junkrat runs away from his team to pursue you as a sniper he will get killed by you and/or your team. In lower ranks strategy goes out the window and teams often leave lone enemy players to freely engage your backline. I state this because it ends up creating bad habits and makes for some strange player behavior, like jumping down into the fray to simply try and get to safety or get the attention of your healer.
Hey Sty, would be awesome if you made the ultimate guide to competive. Like gather info from bronze to master and stack it all to one video
There is a series of videos that are based around "what I learned as a GM in gold-plat-diamond."
@@johhada9304 Well making a complete video wouldnt hurt would it?
@@Suomitikru Just saying if you are looking for such a video, that could help.
@@johhada9304 I guess I could watch every single analysed video, thats true. I feel like I know a lot about the game, though I learned just a little bit more from this one
@@johhada9304 thanks for the tip
Stylosa best advice: Dont die xD
He isn't wrong tho
Its pretty good advice, you can't do anything if your in spawn.
So just emote in spawn the entire time. Thanks, got it!
30:45 literally a junkrat laugh performed by stylosa
🤣🤣 that was great
As a person who has spent most of their Overwatch career in bronze/silver: Bronze/Silvers first priority is always to babysit the payload. They likely jumped down at 20:20 because they felt the need to contest. Not thinking that killing the Rein would stop that; But they needed to be there to do it physically. Bronze and Silvers will prioritize the payload even after a team kill. You will get flamed for suggesting either A. that a portion, if not 4 or 5 of the team move forward to fight further up to get more uncontested push on the cart (Think after point A on Kings Row) or B. giving up some ground (on defense) to give your team positional advantage. I think this is the main reason why bronze/silver dont maintain high ground. Next to not knowing what high ground does for your positional advantage. They must be on cart. 5 on cart for faster push. etc.
Bronze worried about payload? You are overestimating them. Dude. Most of the Bronze dps mains if not all are playing Team Death match in Overwatch of Duty.
8:41 I disagree here. Since the Junkrat was spamming the hallway, going to the side would have been the worst thing to do since reaper was coming in during the spam. Them retreating was actually good
I'm pretty sure you HAVE to coach gun backwards because it knocks you back backwards. But anyhow, another tip for Ashe players is to reload whenever you're not in danger. Even if it's just two bullets, it could save your life depending. I say this because the more bullets she uses, the longer her reloading takes, meaning you'll be a sitting duck and a very easy target.
Thanks for making these bronze coaching videos. I have learned a lot so far!
Also have to take into consideration of people smurfing however.
25:07 Sty was like "Aight Imma head out..."
The mouse sensitivity tip was a nice add, I just started playing OW again after a year, and my mouse sensivity used to be perfect for me but now I just fly around the map and keep dying lmao! So it's a little hard to find that perfect sensivity again
Sty’s laugh at 30:44 was the highlight of the vid for me omg XDD
Low plat player, love these videos. Just subscribed, keep the OverAnalyzed series going!
34:01 enemy junkrat literally does what this ashe did and kills himself trying to get up to that high ground.
30:43 The Junkrat laugh was perfect timing
As for why our Ashe player is coach-gunning backwards, it might be just a knowledge thing, because intuitively you think it's how it works, as in, it doesn't have forward momentum. I remember everyone did it when Ashe first came out, before we all realised we can just run and aim straight down and it conserves forward momentum. OP, if you're reading, this is for you. Use it.
Thank you! I'll be coach-gunning forward from now on! :)
Lol such an entertaining one. I still don't like when he says hacheP but that authentic junkrat laugh @30:45 was funny AF
That effect you're talking about where players are pulled towards a fight is, in my opinion, called the Damage Grav Potential
honestly sty's overanalyzed videos are pure gold
3:43 Did anyone else think that was junkrat laughing for a second xD
Citruspolsion Spud 30:43?
30:44 well timed junkrat laugh,
19:40
*Torbjorn's Turret Dies*
Sty: "We're losing a lot of people here"
30:43 Stylosa roleplaying as that junkrat
35:09 There is a name for the phenomenon where people randomly charge into a fight, it's called "Target Fixation" also called "Tunnel vision" We're hardwired that way and it takes training to get out of it. Inexperienced motorcyclists often get into accidents because of it.
"can get away with some dogy stuff" Sty is literally"I'll borrow you my gun for 5 pounds" police
Dang, two years ago... I miss this series 😢
1:49 the aww mate made me laugh, you literally paused it the second he clicked it and then acted as though you just noticed like aww mateee :P
Good to meet you again at EGX
There is a term for the tendency to get sucked into the middle of a team fight: target fixation. Target fixation is probably the deadliest thing in Overwatch at any level.
bronze submits their one good game out of 50 and complains profusely (2019, colorized)
Honestly some people get good games most if the time in bronze. Like me. I get 13k per round as reaper and still in bronze, it's just some times an off day.
0:54
Phil Swift says your attempt was mediocre.
It doesn't matter if you die now, but remember, dying is the worst thing you can do.
Stylosa - 2019
When this Ashe is better than half the dps in gold :)
This was one of the funniest Overanalyzed videos ever. LMAO'ed hard.
STYLOSA SAME I LOVE KINGS ROW!
as a bronze hanzo player when i give up high ground like that, it's because i feel like i have higher accuracy at ground level
Hanzo is weird because his role is sniper like widow and ig Ashe, but he isn’t hitscan and has an arcing shot
Was trying out ashe in the training room, I noticed her shots are much more punishing than mccree and widowmaker. Both those heroes you can have the reticle on the red outline of the enemy's silhouette and it will still register a hit, but with ashe, it will always miss.
if you're talking about hip fire then that's supposed to happen, it's like how soldier's shots spread after 9 bullets
@@valkenhayn412 I was trying out both primary and secondary
@@chainer8686 Are you sure you did it in the same place, each of these heroes are hit-scan so there isn't any travel time and therefore no need for different hit-boxes. Maybe your aim was off with Ashe.
@@amadhatter3280 at first I was moving around, but when I clearly saw I was hitting fewer shots with ashe, I just stood still in the spawn room looking out to the two bots visible from inside, and just swapped between heroes trying my best to keep the dot set at it's smallest size in the same location. Later I moved around to other locations. I didn't just take one shot and assume the hero was bugged, I spent a good 20 mins trying to recreate each. I do have to point out that I don't have a gaming monitor, so its possible that even with pixels looking exactly the same, that aim could have still been off by a very tiny margin, however at the same time, even if Iwas using an old tube monitor I doubt it would have been enough to be the deciding factor, but considering ashe was the only one consistently missing shots while the others were hitting every one, even when positioned unfavorably, made me come to this conclusion. If you set your mouse to have an extremely low sensitivity, like 1, and your dpi higher you can every so slightly move your mouse at your deask while see it remain stationary on screen when in reality its moving in game by ammounts that cannot be seem on screen. I urge others to test it out, of course the hits will register on all heroes as long as you're within the outline of the silhouette, this is how roadhog's hook and doomfist's rocket punch can land even when the target belives they are safe standing still.
I haven't watched the video yet, I'm about to. But I just wanna say your videos are brilliant and I'm learning so much. I'm also binging the "overanalyzed" series 👍🏻 thanks for the tips
30:45 I honestly thought for a second that was junkrat laughing xD
0:05 “no, no, no, no, no, nor, nor, ner, ner, ner, ner, ner”
The thing of jumping down there is because usually people are just shouting at people to contest the payload and thrashing if anyone is not at the payload after that. People are commanding everyone to contest. They do not know who would be the ideal person to contest it, which is Orisa, Rein,Wrecking Ball, or just the main tank generally.
10:36 it was at this moment when Ashe knew, she mess up...
It was at this moment, Ashe new she fucked up*
@@askhan12406 knew*
You don’t die in real life all the time, just do that in Overwatch
Sty I love you man and you're my favorite OW commentator but please try to finish your thoughts! You go off in 100 directions with the game paused sometimes without finishing any of the threads you started and it gets a little frustrating. It's not a huge deal really, just something I've noticed a few times. Anyway, hope you're well and keep up the great videos man.
30:45 I actually thought junkrat was laughing
Ok but that aiming tip with the line was probably actually the best overwatch tip I have ever had ○_○
THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE
The name for players getting sucked into the fight should be "The Sigma Effect"
He'll be coaching gunning from behind because it gives you abit more momentum towards where you want to go. I personally didn't even know you could look straight down and coach gun to get on high ground ahead of you
How to make Sty laugh like a goddamn idiot: fall of the map 😂😂😂😂
Sty:that's alot of damage.
MY BRAIN: PHIL SWIFT
11:59 Mercy damage boosted but didn't heal and just leaves.
non-ADS firing is actually quite useful is more circumstances than you give it credit for, because it has a higher DPS than ADS firing. It's really good for bursting down big hitbox targets, like tanks or even barriers. The only downside is it uses up a LOT more ammo, so generally, you would only hipfire when you know you can disengage and pop a reload behind cover.
Love you bro! Keep making great video's!
0:55 MMMMMMMM
THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE
"Why do people get sucked into a fight? Why do they move towards the enemy?" Answer is simple: Aim. Especially as you go down in ranks, the closer the target is the easier it is to hit. That's the mentality at least. But that's just a theeeoooryyyyyyyy!
I dont think it's because of aim. Mostly anyways. I used to do this, but I think its more of "hey all the action is over there I want a piece of that action" and for me it's not really something I really noticed I did until someone pointed it out to me..it just felt right. I may be wrong but if you asked the guy why he did that I would honestly expect him to say "idk". Lol
@@FlappyDragon98 I agree that it's probably 90% a subconscious thing but the driving force behind overwatch is killing the enemy team, which means hitting them, which means aim. Being part of the action makes sense too but I think the reason lower ranks do it more than higher ranks is because you get better at aiming the higher your rank is, so you feel the need to get closer less and less. That's my theory anyway.
The one thing I have notice in high gold low dimond is most people don't know how to back off when enemy ults and re engage after the ult and how Not to poke whewaitting to regourp have lost to many games to people trying to poke
High Gold/Low DIAMOND???
Another thing is "most" players in Gold -> Lower Diamond are to aggressive on defense & too passive on Attack.
@@amadhatter3280 just press q 4head
@@fabianreder9780 I think the word he's looking for is "plat" but honestly it's probably everywhere until diamond.
Whenever I play with my friends I'm always like "OK back off let's regroup.. no no ACTUALLY back off, way more, get off the chok- STOP POKe-- *ding* _ally dies_ ". People always think "If I'm careful I can poke and get free ult charge while I wait! Im a genious".
At 30 44 u sound exactly like junkrat when he laughs 🤣
It's probably really hard to rank up without being able to see what hero you're shooting at, target priority is probably impossible
20:22 the reaction of this episode🤣
I guess the definition of throwing has changed to mean "made a bad decision"? I I liked it better when throwing meant intentionally doing things to try to get your team to lose and purposely not trying.
This is the funniest overanalyzed lol