They are correct on the head covering and dress code. seems what bothers me most is that the mennonites that I know have their women dressing like old order and the men dress the same as me, in jeans and a tee shirt. I find that no matter what denomination one finds themself in it always comes down to a matter of the heart. You can be prideful in your humble appearance.
I Love Chester’s insights on church history! Keep them coming. Is there any possible way for me to contact him direct on other aspects of church history or does that all need to happen through this platform?
Funny how it’s always the things that the women are doing, huh? It is very curious that conservative anabaptist women are seemingly expected to maintain plain dress and head coverings, while seemingly the majority of anabaptist men dress exactly the same as the father at 9:02. Isn’t it interesting how the average conservative anabaptist man look like every other middle aged dad, but the women are expected to still be dressing with 19th century aesthetics? It’s comically absurd that there are conservative anabaptist men that will lecture women for “worldly dress standards” while wearing blue jeans and a flannel. Don the broad falls and the suspenders, and then maybe this sentiment wouldn’t look so blatantly misogynistic.
I’ve been Amish Mennonite my entire life. The thing I struggle with the most is this: We are supposed to be imitators of Christ. The best example of imitating Christ is Jesus’ disciples, Paul, and the early church. Why did the early church grow in the midst of persecution and turmoil? Because the church had something to offer! Why then, has the last 60 years of the Anabaptist church been completely stagnant and/or dying? Do we not have something to offer the world?
Because they do not preach the gospel. They are more concerned about keeping traditions and family unity. Those things are not wrong in and of themselves, but not at the expense of the gospel. They do a lot of good works, but they do not make disciples. It is normally generations of believers like 3rd 4th 5th generation, but not 1st generation saved from the street highways and hedges. It has become a tradition of men and doctrines of men, but not the gospel.
This was very interesting I enjoyed the history and learning about the evolvement of anabaptist culture and value overtime. However Mr Weaver mentioned I think an important word that was not explained or defined. I would really be interested in how it is spelled and what it means? It was spelled like as I think I can pronounce it and I'm not a good speller..... gonose. He used the word three or four times and mention it has something we have lost their not heeded. Please could you send me the correct spelling and meaning? I think it could be a German word.
Thanks for the comment, Dan. I'm not sure what word you're thinking of. Perhaps, gelassenheit? Chester laments places where gelassenheit has been lost. Or possibly, gnosis?
The interviewer needs to push back. He always agrees with whatever is said in any interview. It would be interesting if they had to defend their positions not just make blanket statements.
@@NsanzeJimmy1 Yes, for the intellectual honesty of it. It's not just this interview. In all of them he asks a question and nods like a mindless robot. Ask hard questions and push a little bit. Make subject a little uncomfortable.
Generally, interviewers are not expected to give much push back or opposition. Their goal is to bring out the ideas of the guest, not to correct them. But I agree that a few more probing questions might help in bringing out the guest's perspective. For example, I think the host does well at 15:37 to provoke the guest a little.
This interview seems like its with a different person compared to the last one with Mr. Weaver. His perspective here, if anything, leads me away from Anabaptism. Why is he so fixated on social issues? As it says, they will know us by our love for one another. Putting so much of your focus on social issues, even those that are talked about in the Bible, misses the point by a lightyear and then some. 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.
The Anabaptists lived out the true gospel: only allegiance to Christ - pistis- embodied faithfulness in obedience - is counted as righteousness /dikaiosyne= covenant faithfulness. What is now becoming clear in the academic research on Paul's letter to the Romans was clear to them by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. In the time of the reformation with its false "sola conviction" - heresy, the Anabaptists lived out the true gospel and were persecuted. It is my opinion that the faithful ones in Sardis are the Anabaptist forefathers, who showed the magisterial reformer's what TRUE Christianity is - if we read Rev. 3 as an overview of church history.
I have twice read the book Chester mentions. Chester has a very good understanding about exactly what he is discussing.
They are correct on the head covering and dress code. seems what bothers me most is that the mennonites that I know have their women dressing like old order and the men dress the same as me, in jeans and a tee shirt. I find that no matter what denomination one finds themself in it always comes down to a matter of the heart. You can be prideful in your humble appearance.
Hahaha you didn't get a like by Anabaptist perspective cause it hits too close to home
That man is absolutely right.
I Love Chester’s insights on church history! Keep them coming. Is there any possible way for me to contact him direct on other aspects of church history or does that all need to happen through this platform?
If you send us an email at info@anabaptistperspectives.org, we can put you into direct contact with Chester.
Very interesting!
Funny how it’s always the things that the women are doing, huh? It is very curious that conservative anabaptist women are seemingly expected to maintain plain dress and head coverings, while seemingly the majority of anabaptist men dress exactly the same as the father at 9:02. Isn’t it interesting how the average conservative anabaptist man look like every other middle aged dad, but the women are expected to still be dressing with 19th century aesthetics? It’s comically absurd that there are conservative anabaptist men that will lecture women for “worldly dress standards” while wearing blue jeans and a flannel. Don the broad falls and the suspenders, and then maybe this sentiment wouldn’t look so blatantly misogynistic.
Agree 100%
Modesty is for both. Unrighteous scales are wrong.
I’ve been Amish Mennonite my entire life. The thing I struggle with the most is this: We are supposed to be imitators of Christ. The best example of imitating Christ is Jesus’ disciples, Paul, and the early church. Why did the early church grow in the midst of persecution and turmoil? Because the church had something to offer! Why then, has the last 60 years of the Anabaptist church been completely stagnant and/or dying? Do we not have something to offer the world?
This is a good question, Kyle.
Because they do not preach the gospel.
They are more concerned about keeping traditions and family unity. Those things are not wrong in and of themselves, but not at the expense of the gospel.
They do a lot of good works, but they do not make disciples.
It is normally generations of believers like 3rd 4th 5th generation, but not 1st generation saved from the street highways and hedges. It has become a tradition of men and doctrines of men, but not the gospel.
Sad, but true.
Indeed.
This was very interesting I enjoyed the history and learning about the evolvement of anabaptist culture and value overtime. However Mr Weaver mentioned I think an important word that was not explained or defined. I would really be interested in how it is spelled and what it means?
It was spelled like as I think I can pronounce it and I'm not a good speller..... gonose. He used the word three or four times and mention it has something we have lost their not heeded.
Please could you send me the correct spelling and meaning? I think it could be a German word.
Thanks for the comment, Dan. I'm not sure what word you're thinking of. Perhaps, gelassenheit? Chester laments places where gelassenheit has been lost. Or possibly, gnosis?
The interviewer needs to push back. He always agrees with whatever is said in any interview. It would be interesting if they had to defend their positions not just make blanket statements.
Is it necessary?
As an outsider, I agree becuase I would like more information to understand how this functions.
@@NsanzeJimmy1 Yes, for the intellectual honesty of it. It's not just this interview. In all of them he asks a question and nods like a mindless robot. Ask hard questions and push a little bit. Make subject a little uncomfortable.
@@TimMartinBlogger okay
Generally, interviewers are not expected to give much push back or opposition. Their goal is to bring out the ideas of the guest, not to correct them. But I agree that a few more probing questions might help in bringing out the guest's perspective. For example, I think the host does well at 15:37 to provoke the guest a little.
Proselytizing etc.... Brother James 🙏
This interview seems like its with a different person compared to the last one with Mr. Weaver. His perspective here, if anything, leads me away from Anabaptism. Why is he so fixated on social issues? As it says, they will know us by our love for one another. Putting so much of your focus on social issues, even those that are talked about in the Bible, misses the point by a lightyear and then some.
'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.
@@toddbonin6926 your not alone. Try the church in southwest Missouri. They are wonderful and don't partake in any nonsense
@@Benjamin-jo4rf thanks
Ecclesiastes 1:9-11
The Anabaptists lived out the true gospel: only allegiance to Christ - pistis- embodied faithfulness in obedience - is counted as righteousness /dikaiosyne= covenant faithfulness. What is now becoming clear in the academic research on Paul's letter to the Romans was clear to them by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. In the time of the reformation with its false "sola conviction" - heresy, the Anabaptists lived out the true gospel and were persecuted. It is my opinion that the faithful ones in Sardis are the Anabaptist forefathers, who showed the magisterial reformer's what TRUE Christianity is - if we read Rev. 3 as an overview of church history.
Right brother
This is not unique to anabaptists. Many denominations are splitting right now as they did in the 60s
Good observation.