THE TRAIN OLYMPICS: Trains Probably Shouldn't Do This
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Welcome to another episode of Scrap Mechanic Multiplayer Monday! Today we are doing the Train Olympics! We must build 1 train to participate in 3 events. First is the hurdles, where trains must jump over 5 hurdles and attempt the land back on the track the fastest. Second is target shooting, where we must use a spudgun to shoot targets while standing on top of our moving train. And third is the hay bale toss, where our train must launch a hay bale at a flag, and the closest to the flag wins
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That last tie: I think that the error that comes from eyeballing where the screw goes and basically clamping the measurement to whole blocks could have caused kAN's screw to be closer, but it isn't right to assume his haybale was also closer. It can't be said which bale was closer unless you did a tiebreaker toss.
Tie, I agree
I think its a tie
Yeah, and since they're limited to the placement grid they can't actually measure the exact proximity of the bales
Tie for, kAN and Scrapman. Moonbo takes the win (should get a bonus point for touching the Flag). Part 2 (when ever that is) could be a deciding match of some sort for second place.
It is a time, but they should just do it again and see who gets closer.
SM:MM Idea; 3 player cars. One steers, one accelerates, one has brake controls. Timed uphill sprint. Each player has a go in each position. Combination with the best time wins.
No, i think its better with one player accelerate/brake and one player turn and the one player is trying to stop them from getting the best time
@@narcinglorenzo994 yeah that makes more sence. Because how much do you brake in a race?(hint: wery wery little).
@@Gapi505 *very
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer tnx
Give me I need this
In Multiplayer Mondays we clearly have 3 camps:
kAN - efficient and simple
ScrapMan - slighlty less efficient but cool looks
Moonbo - if it works it's good
kAN broke form - not a brick - DQ - kappa
If the screw placements had been the actual result, kAN would win. But since it was just an approximation of the haybale position you can't measure at that small scale, and it has to be a tie. Otherwise it would be like judging the long jump results based on the foot prints in the sand (not very accurate).
true
Your right
wait.. i thought they did measure long jump based on your impression in the sand. Maybe that's just what we did in grade school with no resources hehe.
@@akunog3665 That would have been something, in this day and age of sensors and cameras ;) We even had sensors when I competed in alpine skiing as kid in the 90s.
TBH I don't know exactly how they measure long jump on elite level. I just tried to come up with a typical aproximative method that would break down if you try to use it too detailed.
@@ClayInvictus it's the point of ground contact furthest back. I'm not sure if they still use the sand to measure it, but historically that has been the practice.
Means you lose distance if you land and fall backwards.
Day 2 Stuff to make:
1.Kettenkrad
2.Antinov A-40 Flying tank
3.The Gustav
4.Zveno-SPB
5.Focke-Achgelis Fa-223 Drache
A-40 will always be one of my favorites
Love these ideas I know I am not scrap-man if I was I would chose one of theses ideas
Or when the scalable wedges come, he can make the strv 103!
yes
I hope one of these idea's will be in a video.
I wanna see another multiplayer monday YDIB, each person makes a drawing and the others build it, closest to the drawer's vision gets points (have fun with it and "Whose Line" the points to avoid a stalemate)
SAME HERE
Idea suggestion:the most bumpiest ride race next multiplayer Monday
And who can do the best suspension with limited parts.
or most hilly race
They already did this 2 years ago with the floppy wheels race
Aah perfect English
Pls dont get mad this is a joke
You should do a Random Battle where just like the workshop olympics, you go to the steam workshop and find a a creation that can be destroyed and battle but you cannot test it. First to two or three wins.
they did that before, but not with destructible stuff
Scrap as much as I love you and your content based on standard tie rules the points should be
Moonbo - 7
Kan - 6
Scrapman - 5
So at least In my books you lost and Moonbo won.
Edit
As @Th3Torx pointed out I messed up in my math (he goes more indepth in his reply) meaning that the score is actually
Moonbo - 7
Kan - 7
Scrap - 6
But the results technically aren't wrong because (as described by @Th3Torx) Moonbo got 2 'gold medals' and 1 'bronze medal' against Kans 1 'gold medal' and 2 'silver medals' Moonbo would still be the winner
And thank you to @Th3Torx for helping me see the mistake
agreed
yea
Yea. If first place is a tie, the next contestor is place 3rd, not 2nd. so Scrapman is 1 less point.
Why would Moonbo win? He had 1 point less than Kan and Scrap, so it's either 1st place Kan & Moonbo or 3 way tie. And seeing as they used whole 1x1 blocks to mark the distances it makes no sense to count tenths of the block lengths in scoring, there's obviously 0.5 block margin of error in that measurement to be taken under the account, and differences lesser than that shouldn't have any impact on the scoring.
It's only fair to count that as a 3 way tie.
I think it should be
Moonbo - 7
Kan - 7
Scrapman - 6
Braking it down in placements
Moonbo won 2 and lost 1 for a total of 1+3+3
Kan won 1 and placed second twice for 2+3+2
Scrapman won 1, placed second once and lost 1 for 3+1+2
Note that I skipped the second place in the shooting competition where first was a tie, as is the standard procedure in the Olympics as far as I can tell.
And of course, Moonbo takes the overall victory thank to his 2 'golds'.
Moonbo is the winner as he had the superior launcher and made it in one attempt, Kan and Scrapman share an admirable second place!
scrapman is 1 pixel closer
Ya, but Scrapman also won the hurdles by a decent margin. So not fair to judge it all by the last event only.
MM idea: try making super tiny cars with all the one block parts, and race them!
cars, but you have to use the full block pipes for wheels. It's doable, if you use small pipes for the shafts.
Human ‘dwarf’ error is to blame for the last one
Plus scrapmechanic has a snap grid that the bale wouldn’t have landed perfectly on
Scrapman placed kans screw half under the bale but we didn’t see scrapmans screw but kan is better
I'd love to see scrap man and kosmo race with the "1st" planes to see which is best.
Scrapman you can use spectator camera mod to show something like new creation or MM race.
That last tie was crazy. But the kAN's train fell off the tracks after every toss, so that might be used as the tiebreaker. Since kAN's train can't stay on the track he loses and ScrapMan gets the 2nd. I think ScrapMan even said as a joke that kAN's train falling off the track at the beginning would later be taken into consideration. I guess that's what we need to do.
In my opinion ScrapMan gets the 2nd place and kAN 3rd.
but why is moonbo 1st?
@@flxcle2767 Because he got a direct hit. I'm referring to the last competition.
@@hisune_39 oh ok
ScrapMan keeping it beyond real. Valentine's Day? Whatever, time for some train Olympics.
LOL. Love, hearts and roses? What about Shooting Targets on an Moving, Driverless Train? Hmmm, sounds like a plan.
@@hyperdemon3462 nah, how bout he make a Valentine tank (yes there is a tank called Valentine)
@@yayeetmeoffacliff4708 Not a bad idea but it might be a tad late, maybe next year
@@hyperdemon3462 yeah might be a tad late.
imagine having a bot battle arena on a train while moving
MM idea: 2 player car
you’ll be on teams on two, and will build cars with only forwards and back hooked up to the seat, the only player has to use controllers to steer the vehicle while not in a seat
i think i already suggested this but idk
Multilayer Monday idea, do a train race/ battle. A team challenge one person on a team of 2 builds the train and the other builds a wagon. The wagon has to be destructible and armed with a spud gun. This will be used to shoot each others wagon. Use the four villages map and at each section you have to pick up cargo and transport it. Whoever reaches the end first gets two points. And whoever has the most blocks left gets one point. Or if using destructible cargo then whoever has the most cargo left.
Suggestion: do one of these but every game the losers get to add a block each to the winners vehicle, I would have 5+ challenges
Evolved to the point where trains jump
Day 1 of asking ScrapMan to bring back the old multiplayer Monday Timelapse music for an episode.
Can't believe how far moonbo has come with his creations compared to a year ago when Kan was explaining how to do certain things
I have a solution for the hay toss tie!
When you messured that kans throw was a little bit closer to the flag you only messured it from 1 side of the block. The grip makes it vary from a different side because if it and an angle.
Solution: Meassure it when it is above the pipe. That means it is in the centre of the pipe and the result wont vary from the other side.
Train Olympics, aka, chaos
Chaos indeed
Chaos indeed
Chaos indeed
WHY ISNT THIS CALLED THE TRAINLYMPICS
Workshop hunters theme idea: dangerous
Scrapman comes out with the most chaotic and weirdest ideas ever just for us. Respect to scrapman!
You know that a lot of his ideas also come from the comment section but you do have a point that there’s not many repetitive idea like at all
@@df3_legomocs I agree with you, most of his ideas are definitely inspired by the comments section.
you guys should definitely more olympics! (i enjoyed that vid so much!)
How much force would it take to make an actual locomotive jump 3 times it's own height like that... is it possible to land it without catastrophic failure?
Probably not but it'd be a spectacular sight either way
you guys should do a random Olympics like the workshop one but with your own creations
I'll give scrapman the tie because that really is margin of error, but he still loses cuz he shoulda taken third in the shooting contest
Yeah that would be the correct score 7,7,6
Day 14 of asking scrapman to make a colibri bird in trailmakers
Can you make a train that has guns on it and two people with a plane try to take it down with bombs. Who ever lives longer wins.
I think they did similar with cars, idk how well planes would work (similar reasons as to why they don't like dog fights)
Next video for SM Workshop Hunters "We searched "bird" on the workshop for feathers and flight!" Day 78. At day 100 I will stop but I realy want it I am going to start posting it into discord at day 80
Seven points all around - friendship gets a win as the saying goes
Scrap Man PLS Go Back To TearDown And Replay The Flooding At Lee Level Again There I A New Ending For The Part 1 Campaign (THIS is not Click Bait)
SMMM
I like trains oh wait AAA-
I’m actually with ScrapMan on this one.
You can’t place a block with fractional precision, so you can’t make measurements with fractional precision.
The precision limit is the world’s build grid.
Yeah, but ScrapMan cheated in the second event with the scoring. If 1st place is 3 points, 2nd is 2 points and last is 1 point, and you have a tie for first place, you don't give both first place 3 points and the last place 2. ScrapMan didn't come in second place. Two others did better than him. so he came in third. He should get 1 point. Meanwhile, the two tied don't get full 1st place points. They share the total of the 1st and second. So they each get 2.5 points.
May not seem like a big difference, but the real point totals in the second event should have had Scrapman getting 1.5 points less than the other two. Not just 1 point less. So, with a final tie, that made all the difference. Even counting a tie in the final event, it should have been:
1st - Moonbo 6.5 points (1, 2.5, 3)
2nd - kAN 6 points (2, 2.5, 1.5)
3rd - Scrapman 5.5 points (3, 1, 1.5)
@@FUGP72how did scrapman cheat?
@@elitedangerousfan4610 Did you read my post? He gave himself 2nd place points for coming in 3rd.
@@FUGP72 I did but I was confused
@@elitedangerousfan4610 I can't really explain it any clearer than I did. IF there was a 3-2-1 point system, then a two way tie for first means the two tied for first get 2.5 point each and the third place (Scrapman) gets 1. He gave himself an extra point, and kAN and Moonbo an extra half point. And that made a difference in the final standings.
The last one was obvious tie for the second place. There is more error from the imprecisions of bearings than what you wanted to measure there.
Hey scrapman u need to try building Voith-Schneider-Flieger 24 in trail makers Day 3
You guys should remaster the food themed vehicle race!
How about a race where you need lift up your partner so that he can lift you up for both of you to get over the obstacle
have a normal vehicle race, but each round you take away rule
Lol a tie for sure
Scrapman got second place on the last event and kAN got last
I feel like if there's a tie for 1st, the third person should get 3rd place.
As for the winner, obviously you get a bonus point when you hit the flag.
That is absolutely how it is done and in this case, made a huge difference. ScrapMan didn't come in second in the shooting. Two competitors finished ahead of him. So he came in 3rd. Similarly, kAN and Moobo didn't just tie for 1st. They tied for 2nd as well. So they don;t both get 3 points. The split the 1st and 2nd place points, meaning they get 2.5 points each. That turns a 3 way tie at the end into Moonbo winning by 0.5 points over kAN and Scrapman finishing 0.5 points behind kAN in 3rd.
After all, in the Olympics, if two people tie for first,the next finisher doesn't get a Silver medal. They get a Bronze.
workshop hunters idea :toys
Search "no" on workshop hunters
Also say, long time NO see
You should make a song similar to the one for the timelapse, for catarinth
im once again asking for the building music. what's the song?
Ah yes, *TrainMan*
Sm:MM idea laggy cars that turn with timers and a set amount of lag
Zza
Tie. But if it makes Kan happy, he can take the pitty win lol
PLEASE do another workshop Olympics!!!
can you please make mor trailmakers Viedeos on the high Seas
Hi Scrapman! Day 24
See you at day 100
@@NetralFN See you too 👍
Day 278 of asking scrapman to make a plane dogfight evolution video (trailmakers)
I agree
that stock train at the start already looks wonky instable at the wheels. is it just the graphs, or is SM a little wonky? :)
MM idea yall should do wall climbing with plungers
Day 261 of asking scrapman to play a vr game.
Well ScrapMan 'cheated' at the sharpshooter one. He did not come as second but as third behind Moonbo and kAN so he would only got one point instead of two.
So even if the second place is shared between him and kAN at the longtoss challenge and he got two point he only would have 6, and that would make him third at the Olympics either way.
keep it as a 3 way tie and then roll it over to next week
It is impossible to say who won 2nd place between ScrapMan and kAN without doing a tiebreaker toss due to the errors, however I think that Moonbo should be awarded 1st place for his haybale landing directly at the flag pole.
Hi Scrapman! Long time watcher here
Multiplayer Monday Idea: jousting with cardboard horses/cars with long spears that has a a mountable spudgun in it with sensors upfront set to 1.
17:49 you said 2 points white, but there’s two squares missing in the blue, 18:18 you said none on this one, but there is one missing blue, moonbo actually won event two instead of the tie. Which change the results completely. Also your measurements at the end you shouldn’t argue, it being off in that direction means you’re closer..
Because you use blocks that are locked to a grid as placeholders you should not count distance any more accurately than full block units.
Well for the tie, i think scrap man won, at the pipe test we clearly see that Kan is farther
But the bolts are merely a rough method of measuring so that level of accuracy is not reasonable to use
Kan: I like trains me: No I like Olympics
Can you make a hydrofoil for trail makers but make it very very fast like make it have a use
Day 7 of ascing scrapman to make cyclorotor
Its a draw by your own rules everyone gets 7
Can you make another survival series
Pls
I agree
you guys haphazardly placed the screws on the ground anyway xDDD
the measurements are entirely invalid xD
Even counting the tie in the final event, the REAL final results would be:
1st - Moonbo 6.5 points (1, 2.5, 3)
2nd - kAN 6 points (2, 2.5, 1.5)
3rd - Scrapman 5.5 points (3, 1, 1.5)
This is from how you are supposed to handle ties. After all, in the Olympics, if two competitors tie and both get Gold, the next competitor doesn't get Silver. They get Bronze. Because they came in 3rd. For a point based system, every event has 6 points to give. No more, no less. If there are ties in any position, the tied competitors share the total points for the two positions they are tied for. (Technically, a first place tie is a tie for both first and second place) So Scrapman should have gotten just 1 point for the shooting round while the others got 2.5 (sharing the 5 points awarded for 1st and 2nd). And in the final even, Scrapman and kAN share the 2nd and 3rd place points for 1.5 points each while Moonbo takes all of the 3 points for first.
If you consider kAN to have taken 2nd in the hay bail toss, then the final results would be Moonbo and kAN tied for first with 6.5 points and Scrapman in third with 5 points.
3 Way Tie.
SM:MM idea 1: No seat challenge
You have to build an vehicle without an seat. So that means you will have to make driving by buttons or sensors
Idea 2: Prank wars
you have to make 3 pranks in scrap mechanic,
One including builduing
one including car
last one can be anything you want
After all pranks viewers in comments tells which one is the funniest
most elaborate
and most "wholesome"
I vote tie for last challenge. Not even cause I like scrapman more but also cause that fraction of a block doesnt matter
day 135 or 136 of asking scrapman to start a Survival series amphibious tank/basically any transportation and floating base/barge (or under water.) But you need mods... it's a requirement to breathe underwater, if you want an underwater base/transportation. And yes i am talking about the underwater fan moonbo reviewed that basically makes water spaces air spaces... if that makes any sense.) (and if you wanted to move the barge/boat/floating base you are able to make thrusters/glitches/mods to do it or by lift or actual push)
Here are a few ideas:
Do only mods/vanilla with a the limited amount of parts. Ex: 200 Wood blocks, 6 bearings, ext.
Do a team race as a train / snake, one person builds the front, someone the middle, and the rear.
Evolution: Just in Scrap Mechanic like how it was in Trailmakers.
Today my Grandpa passed away and thanks for cheering me up Scrapman! :")
Happy Valentine's day!
It's a tie due to the system Scrap Mechanic is bound to. The limitations of measurement and block placement just makes any kind of radial measurement an approximation at best. You can't fairly say that because a marker is X more pixels closer on a world grid that it's inherently closer on said grid by exact and whole grid measurements. So it's a tie. Aluminum medals for everyone.
Tie breaker of 21:33:
According to our calculations, Scrap mans place was 25 thousandths of a block closer.
This a joke, unless official measurements are taken, the M.N.M. INK. will remain indecisive.
It only matters who got first position. First man on moon, ... First man to reach the summit of Mount Everest, first position in Multiplayer Monday. Both wedge gang and brick life lost, but an out of the world performance by Moonbo :D
ITS A TIE! i was hoping for a tie breaker with some special stuff but nope...
I have some multiplayer Monday ideas
Team derby
Soccer with an explosive ball
Tag
Hide and seek
Tanks with catapults pvp
Train battleship pvp 1v1
Golf with cars
Team tower defense against other players
My vote is the fraction of a block should count. However if you had measured the x distance and y distance, you could math the length via the hypotenuse. That would yield the most accurate results, but unless you keep the world and get those measurements you'll never be able to confirm that so, good luck.
Hey scrapman I have been a fan for many years now and even though you wont see this I would love it if you tried playing plane crazy on roblox. It is acctually very fun and kinda realistic, like scrap mechanic. If you do see this please give it a try thank you and keep up the good work..
so, cool contest idea: making vehicles that use the full block pipes as tiny wheels. It's theoretically possible, and would be so derpy.
you could also do slightly less impressive tiny wheels, like the valves, or the yellow bits from the outside warehouse piping that are two blocks wide but have a center point.
Hey
Hi ScrapMan! do you respond?
Build a randomized obstical track similar to these kids shows where they have to jump between balls over a pool etc. By randomized I mean you build a logic into it where the sensor detects you coming along and randomly decides if its going to bring the obsticale on you or not.
I got a scrap mechanic question for you. How do you connect more than one item to the same build via weld? I keep seeing you weld certain items together but when i did it, it would only let me weld together one time. So, if i were to build a piece of concrete 4x4 and wanted to add something i connected to bearing, it would let me connect them together. How do you do that so easily?
Idea suggestion: bike Olympics
An obstacle course for bikes
Only 2 engines
And 2 wheels and Kan I know u so no brick bike
You acn have any other rules if you want
Suggestion: do the train Olympics in Trailmakers.
SM:MM idea:
Each person builds a long train with lots of different carriages and a train track with obstacles that pass over it, ie lights etc. You race on foot across and through the train as it speeds down the track, the first to get to the end or the last to get knocked off wins.
Indiana Jones style
Ithink this episode had a triple tie and a lot of close competition. Moonbo wins the Hay Toss by a notable margin, but I think margin of error is too close to call for calling third place, ergo everyone did better than second place, overall.
Yo scrap man you should have made a mechanism that automatically puts you back on the track without you getting out then you would have took less longer to put the train (if you could even call it that) and you would have a shorter time =)