A love letter to Ai art - you don't need to be afraid
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Artists can actually benefit the most from Ai art and don't need to be afraid. In this video I want to share a perspective from an artist, and show the very process of creating the best Ai art with all the artistic talent you posses, which will surpass what anyone else can make with this technology.
If you like the content and want to support the channel, you're welcome to support us through playeUr, Subscribe Star, become a channel member here on RUclips or through Pateon:
PlayeUr: utreon.com/c/s...
Subscribe star: www.subscribes...
Become a member: / @shadiversity
Patreon: / shadbrooks
NEW Shadow of the Conqueror T-Shirt:
shadiversity.c...
Come check out my other channels!
THE SHADLANDS: / @theshadlands1142
KNIGHTS WATCH: / knightswatch
Subscribe to my website so you don't miss an upload: www.shadmbrook...
Follow me on Facebook: / shadiversity
Follow me on twitter: / shadmbrooks
My novel, Shadow of the Conqueror Audio Book affiliate links:
US: www.audible.co...
UK: www.audible.co...
CA: www.audible.ca...
AU: www.audible.co...
Ebook, Paperback and Hardcover available from most major book retailers, here are a few of the main ones:
Amazon affiliate link (be sure to navigate to your country's amazon site):
amzn.to/2XErUaR
Barnes and Noble:
www.barnesandn...
Kobo:
www.kobo.com/a...
Awesome Shirts and chainmail print clothing: teespring.com/...
Visit Calimacil for the best replica foam swords and LARP weapons: calimacil.com?aff=38
Buy my sword IMPERIOUS from Calimacil: calimacil.com/...
Community run discord server: / discord
#aiart #art #love #support #supergirl #drawing #tutorial
Very well said and put. As a computer engineer myself I love the work you're doing to brind awareness to the public on how this tool really is. Unfortunately, judging by the comments down here, I think the fear-mongering against AI worked...
"fear mongering against AI worked..."
as it should
@@vikraarkiv
Do you know that AI has been used in various fields for many years now?
Medicine is one of such fields. My sister herself worked in the past years on machine learning and AI published papers that use this wonderful tech to assist doctors in their diagnosis and to enhance the results of some machines like TAC and magnetic resonance imaging that are used to find things like tumors in people.
You don't see doctors complaining that this tech will steal their jobs, because they are smarter than that and they know very well this tech is literally helping them saving lives.
And don't even get me started on the other fields AI has been used that the general public doesn't even know they are using it.
Are you mad at AI? Well, be prepared to stop playing any videogame, to stop using any search engine, to stop using any translator, to stop using any scanning application, and the list goes on...
You can argue that this tech is now readily available to the public (which, it already was actually, but whatever) and that it needs ad hoc regulations and I agree, but you cannot hold still the progress just because a few people feelings got hurt.
I'm sure the invention of the printing press or the industrial revolution back in the days had their detractors, but we as a species evolved alongside those things and this will be no different. "Artists" need to adapt to this tech, the first they learn this the better for them.
@@vikraarkiv Nope.
It's not "fear-mongering." It's soulless work made from the copies of actual artists; which people rightfully find detestable.
@@hodarov1564
This comment only proves that you do not understand how this tech (on which I actually worked on for years) works.
To put it in a way even an art person can understand (as in an artistic metaphor to not dump on you entire pages of technical terminology, so don't get offended for this line like other did), the training is no different from real people studing and recreating past pieces to develop their skills (which has always been a thing), but what comes after is completely original in both cases.
If you call this "theft" then you must think people like Van Gogh or Giotto were thieves too.
I yelled at a waiter to go have my food remade because it wasn’t made quite how I wanted. This makes me an incredibly talented chef.
hah hilarious analogy XD
lmao
I'll just add my comment under this glorious one.
xd
@@kestanecihasanpubg woah what a co-incidence that i just so happen to have started watching azumanga-daioh 2 weeks ago o: .....
" I have developped a keen eye for proportions " my brother in christ, the head is too big
head too big, hands to small, her left foot about 1,5 times as big as her right one, broken bones in her left arm (maybe intentional tho? Injury from a fight?).
If he doesn't want to learn that kinda stuff and let images be created another way, fine - but at least be honest with yourself and realize you don't have those skills lol.
Maybe all these statements like the one you've quoted aren't actually meant to be serious but to make people write comments in order to push the video; in that case, great job, I wrote a FEW comments already because I'm so entertained xD
@@tollestoertchen I looked it over and I don't see why the left arm looks broken. I got mixed feelings on AI art so I'm not really supporting it to a major degree, I'm just curious. But the scale of the head was very obvious to me. Shrinking the shoulders made that even more noticeable. also, there were some details in the hands that seemed a bit off. like the fingernails. I think he may have an artistic eye to a degree, but I guess the better you are as an artist, the better you could be using a AI model. I just don't really care to look at AI art that much because the "work" put into it is just not at the same level as non AI assisted art.
@@tollestoertchen he has the same skills as most artists that are afraid ai art is going to take their jobs lol. Also in your own channel you literally have characters with huge heads compared to their bodies. you can claim it's an art style but so can he. if you are going to talk shit don't talk about something you literally do on your own channel.
@@paulogaspar8295 well, my characters are obviously EXTREMELY stylized and there is NO intent to make them look realistic by any means. You wouldn't claim that Donald Duck's proportions look weird because they don't resemble a real duck, would you?
And no, in THIS case he can't claim that it's an artstyle, because then it would have had to be a stylistic and intentional decision to stylize the proportions. And looking at his prompts which include "perfect proportions" and "photorealistic", it certainly wasn't.
The comparison doesn't make any sense and you know it.
On a side note, artists on his skill level usually aren't afraid of AI stealing their jobs, because they don't have a job in the art industry yet.
I won't throw the "talking shit" card back at you, because it's always better to talk to each other like adults. I will admit though that my original comment was more passive-aggressive than it should have been. When the video came out, it just made me mad, which isn't an excuse of course. The main thing that triggered me was seeing his old art in the beginning, which had so much charm, being replaced by this other stuff.
Anyhow, have a good day!
@@tollestoertchen Good comeback
It's weird, somehow when I have someone else do the work for me it ends up better!
Pretty much.
Didn't expect you here xD
I guess it depends on who you ask.
"can you change up these parts a little bit and put my wife's head there instead without changing the size?" ---> "I made this piece of art myself, isn't my skill out of this world?!"
I goggled Will Smith, and some pictures of him popped up. I printed them out, and will be having a photography exhibition of my Will Smith art.
you’re such a skilled artist!!
Hey, google image search is just a tool. Sounds legit to me.
But beware: If someone draws mustaches on that pictures they are officially not yours anymore! They belong to that other artist now.
If you make a collage out of it, it would be your art.
That you chose Will Smith is quite telling.
How does it feel having an actual artist as your brother.
OWNED
They did a whole video series on this on his brother's channel
jazza is kind of an ai simp. he's a "fuck you I got mine" type. seems to run in the family
AI art is art. Unless you're saying photographs are also not art? And you better not use photoshop or adobe at all, heathen!
@@massimo4307 asking someone to create a painting for you doesn't make you can artist
"Soccer is my passion, I love scoring goals, but I don't actually like running, or kicking the ball". - Shadversity, probably.
And yet nobody claims that playing at football table is like playing in Champion's League.
Okay, THAT'S pretty good. XD
He's a great footballer too. Don't forget. He just doesn't enjoy the 90 minutes on the pitch.
Man you art bros are so salty about people enjoying AI art lol
@@KevanWalter Too bad you can’t Photoshop your ugly personality.
Personally I hate how I can’t look up anything on Google anymore without thousands of creepy, oversaturated or outright shitty AI images polluting the search results. It’s uncanny and gross.
That’s definitely not a real issue… XD what a stupid think to make up.
The worse part is i can spot these ai artwork on the spot because they all have the same artstyle.
The picture shad uses in his video is the exact same artstyle as any of the morbillions ai artwork out there.
Artstyles are often unique to artist, sure some might manage to copy another's but even then you develop habits, tricks and kinks. There's hardly 2 artstyle that are the same.
@@pougetguillaume4632 pretty sure you wouldn’t be able to differentiate real art from AI art if you are taking art from high quality AI models. I can asure you of that.
@@62sy Yeah, I wouldn't be able to differentiate AI art from a very talented real artist... if his artstyle was extremely generic and bland.
Shad's hand drawings are much more interesting from a creative point of view, even if the quality of the "drawing" is better with AI.
Bad AI generation engines combined with lazy people.
If you see an image from a good engine where someone's put in some time and effort to get the details right, you'll never know what you saw.
You know the difference between an average artist who doesn't put much time and effort in their craft vs a professional artist? The average artist thinks he's the shit, while the professional artist think he's shit.
Not always, i am an avarage and i think i am shit for example
And shad is neither because he put little effort in his work while the ai did most of it.
@@Silver77cyn As others said, he commisioned an artwork where he did some touch ups so the machine he has the commision from did it up to his specification, ending up with a shitty "art"work made from possibly hundreds if not millions of stolen artworks just for him to boast about how great of an artist he is while trying to sell the stolen commisioned piece of shit as his
@@hujan1744to rephrase OP, the artists with potential think they're shit, and we think we're shit because we know we can grow. Guys who think they're big cheese will always be shit because they'll never try to improve
Unrelated but based artorias pfp
Based on Shad's logic, my ChatGPT fueled novel makes me an author because I (very descriptively) told the AI what i wanted the story to be about.
why do you think they had a writers union lol.
AI can and will replace writers eventually
@@creepadept "Will" is a very dark timeline. Even with humanity's worst writing, you really don't wanna go there.
@@thirion1850 well it is dark if its the "self-aware AI" doing it.
Otherwise pretty close to reality
@@creepadept It's dark even if it's just an algorithmic model, nothing new will ever be created if it's a regurgitation of the old. All new artistic pursuits - as with any other rigorous work - require and are born of impetus.
@@thirion1850as with all human inventions things progress, become refined, evolve.
Imagine tell people 100 years ago we have cameras that can capture color now, and to such vibrancy of color.
So many examples of this concept I could give, and I have no doubt that 10 years from now alone it will be better, I’m not one for predictions but someone will make a breakthrough at some point.
I am an amazing chef. I hired a Michelin star chef, and asked him to make me a pizza. The chef made so many mistakes like putting caviar on the pizza. So I removed them with my own hands and added pepperoni instead. Then I hired another Michelin chef who specializes in pizza. I told him to fix the other mistakes that only I, a talented chef can see. The pizza at the end looks like a pizza. I'm truly an amazing chef.
I bet there is a parallel universe wher shad would do this too xD
Unironically yes.
If you like how it tastes, where exactly is the issue?
@@FeepingCreature issue is him calling himself ''a chef''
@@Teuwufel I don't think this conflict will be solved by changing how some people are called.
@@FeepingCreature Let's say you wanted to hire a chef. Now, would you want to hire someone who's deeply passionate about food, has years of both job and educational experience in the field, or would you want some guy who just tells other people what to do, makes very minor alterations, and at the end of it all creates a 6/10 product at best. If both of these individuals are labeled "chef", wouldn't you feel kind of cheated by the fact that these two highly different individuals were grouped together and presumed to be "equal"?
This is the Dunning Kruger effect given a human body. The AI did 99% of the work. All he did was choose a comp that he didn’t make and do markups that he fed back into the AI. That makes him an art director at best but really he’s more like a picky client because he’s not really contributing creatively. Just have fun and be honest about what you are doing. You are not the same as your brother. Not even close.
This
Still funny that Jazza is shad's brother lol. They're complete opposites. Real life yin and yang
@@jojo11254 Jazza should put his brother in his place. Sometimes family have to do it.
Shad is a client, a client of A.I., nothing else.
For God's sake my clients also make a document writting what they want me to draw and they ask for changes of the final product two to four times... there is no difference.
@@kissadev. Yeah I was being generous. I’m a professional illustrator and I’ve had clients contribute more than he does, with their own rough sketch to start with and detailed changes later on. It would be crayon eating stupid to be a client that does that and then claim that you made the art.
"I've developed a very keen eye for proportion" as he shows a sketch of a man with a thinner waist than any woman
his style seems to be entirely oblivious that people have internal organs or can pack fat
@@klibe lmao that's how ai image generators thrive on. Being blind. And narcissism ofc
Proportion is not the same as realism. Take Pixar for example, their designs are far from realistic but are considered the gold standard in the industry when it comes to character design, since an obscene amount of research, theory and study goes into making every single thing from landscapes to characters to objects have a distinct and cohesive visual language that is still far from realistic. To do this one must have a mastery of figure, design, construction, perspective, etc.
Shad's art isn't amateur because it is not realistic, but because he has a so-so sense of construction, so his disproportionately designed characters look off instead of stylized.
Why couldn't you have just stuck to mediaeval armour and weaponry
Medieval artist doesn't care if it's not realistic or just straight bad, considering papers are expensive back then
@@OFraternaMoriI think they meant the type of genre not literal medieval times lol
I knew this guy sounded familiar! Love him even more now
Because he wants to cosplay as an artist
Right, I mean he's pretty decent in SketchUp, but beyond that you can't exactly call yourself and artist based on this.
Ai is like 6 months old right now. How long does it take to become an artist? We've got like 5-6 more years of Practicing Ai to go buddy! I don't care if you can draw or not!
So is no one going to point out that despite his immense talent above other AI artists, she's lit from the front but the sun is behind her?
LMAO
I saw that too -- didn't catch the shoulder proportions though. D'oh!
@@KRoseCarol That was the best part, cause we've never seen his wife. How are we supposed to know if she has broad shoulders? The "average" woman doesn't but any particular woman can have any proportion of shoulders.
Armed with hidden knowledge of his wife, he calls us all out on not spotting that haha!
Clearly there's a flashlight in front of her.
I think all that matters in the end is NOT what we think but ultimately what he thinks about his own art and what his wife thinks as the art is also for her. What the general public thinks is completely irrelivent and nonsensical. 😉
Crazy thing is your actual art showed real personality and soul. But your ai stuff Is completely soulless and hermoginous.
homogeneous
@@KrinkelsNG no way we got the madness man himself here
Everything is soulless, there is no soul.
Purely subjective. This is like the obsession with wanting handmade stuff of inferior quality over machine made stuff of superior quality.
Except here it's machine made stuff of inferior quality.@@-haclong2366
I've watched your armor/weaponry videos for a long time for their informational value, ironically as a reference for my own art. As I am watching this I feel a profound sense of disappointment both in the general sense of being an artist whose work is being exploited by this new technology, and specifically in you as someone I wanted to look up to and be grateful for. All the more, considering your own brother is an artist. For your sake, I hope the shame isn't too painful when you finally come to your senses.
Yes maybe Ai is stealing (despite that isnt how that works) but i preffer AI before judgemental artist any day.
@@laigron7884 No no that is how it works, unless you actually want to back up your claim.
@@randomjester9983AI doesn't steal work. It's the same way people are able to mimic and learn other people's styles by looking at their art online. If you can't come to grips with that, than you are a lost cause.
@@laigron7884 I get not liking an individual art but try at least to understand that these artist are fearful for 2 things ai being trained off their own work and companies starting to use ai rather than actual artist losing the human aspect of it
@@massimo4307 An AI doesn’t think that way, it can’t develop a style as you say without taking from thousands of creators, in a lot of cases without asking. AI artist brainrot is wild lol
Damn, you know I can spend a lot of time in the Skyrim character creator and spend time learning how to use it, but that doesn't make me a 3d artist.
False equivalency. An actually valid analogy would be creating your own 3d model, modelling it, designing it, rendering it, and then putting it into Skyrim’s engine to customise it.
Edit: it’s almost embarrassing how literally nobody here has even the slightest clue how ai works.
Not yet, but everyone has to start somewhere
@@zzodysseuszzNot the way this guy treats it. It’s pretty equivalent. More like ordering a custom pizza and claiming you cooked the meal.
you need actual skills to 3D model a character, design and render one@@zzodysseuszz
@@zzodysseuszzooooooooooof terrible rebuttal bro. You actually press send after typing that out? 😂😂😂
How many times are you gonna say you have an artistic eye while others don't lol. I've never heard an artist talk this way about themselves
lol It's just egotistical narcissism. Try not to pay it any mind.
If he said this stuff in regards to film, his EFAP buddies would pillory him.
Untill he convinces himself that this is true lol
Fr no real artist has to convince people of their skill, it is just shown in the work LMAOOO
What? I have heard plenty of artists talk like that. It's nothing new at all.
coping for half an hour and then some straight without interruption is a skill in itself, congrats bro!
That might be the most ironic thing I have ever read. Don't you anti-AI fanatics spend all your time coping with AI art?
@@olivercharles2930 what’s there to cope with? none of the pictures he’s generated impressed me. the funniest examples of his work he’s shown so far were the ones that still had fucked up hands despite his countless retries and applying his „artistic eye“, or the ones where he can’t figure out how light works.
i don’t know what about this is supposed to impress me, the same boring photo with a lame character like a stereotypical viking or fucking superwoman infront of a backdrop that looks like the character creator of an RPG? with the same immediately obvious glossy AI look?
i struggled to see what he tried to sell as artistic ingenuity and expertise. maybe if someone else made a video like this and maybe if that person actually explained anything instead of narcissistically jerking off to his insane knowledge of art for 40 minutes.
@@rjuj - Dumb lawsuits by artists against AI
- People whining about AI art not being perfect
- People claiming AI art will have all artists starving within a month
And so on.
@@olivercharles2930 no, my point is the reverse. i think the use for AI is very limited and will never replace real art because it's always a recreation, a mere immitation of real art.
now i don't know what a lawsuit against AI users would be about, so i cannot comment on that.
@@rjuj There is no such thing as real art imo
Based on Shad’s logic, if I take one of his original drawings, not what the AI created for him, but his real drawings. I Put it in photoshop, change the colors a bit, maybe alter the proportions a bit, and stamp my name on it, it is now mine. I created that piece since I spent 2 hours on photoshop altering it a bit. I can monetize it and sell it as my wholly original creation.
Even better, run his entire channel into a model. Clone his voice, and start up a competing podcast. You can literally replace him with AI, and by his logic, that's 100% fine.
I use Google Docs and sometimes I change the font. You could say I’m somewhat of a professional calligrapher
I remember seeing some you tube video showing a AI artist that takes it as seriously as this hack does. By the end of the video he sees someone else use his prompts and get pissed. "They stole MY PROMPTS!"
I'm only calling this guy a hack, is because what he is saying will be taken to heart by someone else. A person that COULD have picked up a pencil and pad and cultured a skill, but now they take this route.
If you are using general images to spark a idea to then draw from, I'm fine with it. Calling it art, that's trash.
@@parttimed.m.1111 absolutely, hence my initial comment. These AI bros including Shad claim it’s not theft and what not but on the same token they will be mad when you turn their logic against them and take their prompts or AI images as your own. And again with AI how can you claim ownership of anything if the AI can easily copy any given image.
@@Shapeplusformguys chill i cant like every comment
I'll be honest, I was really hoping you were gonna show us the artistic skills that went into this. This isn't AI-assisted art, this is edited AI art, and the edits are lazy at best, relying on being able to just feed it into another stable defusion run to clean it up. As an artist, you should notice that the finished image is only visually pleasing at a glance. The more you look at it, the more you notice how the lighting is all kinds of wrong, and there's very little cohesion between all the parts. For example, look at the hands: they look like they were cut from a photo with studio lighting and pasted in with no regard to the rest of the image.
The final image also messed up the perspective. I wasn't getting why everyone was saying her head was too big until I looked closer to the final showcase where not only did he bring her shoulders in, but she still has the proportions of the og image's foreshortening. It's like an optical illusion.
Also the skirt is sooo fucked up I don't get why he didn't fix that.
@@dustrose8101because he’s not an artist
It's human-assisted AI art. He's got it flipped. He's not the artist, he's the assistant (and he sucks at it to top it off).
This is as a good place as any to say this is a total Cringefest ! Bad art, composition, Photoshop skills, and AI. Topped with some seriously delusional narcissism. I feel sorry for his wife having to listen to him probably for hours on end talking about his artistic genius. 🙈
@@SteveAddeo He actually _is_ an artist, and if you look at his sketches, they are, while not necessarily being "masterpieces," (they certainly aren't digitally realist, which I think is a style he envies, hence his interest in AI art,) very interesting pieces, most of them. He just doesn't have the right kind of skills to be photobashing like he tried. But I get where you're coming from... this is not an artistic act on his part.
I prefer the actual art you've drawn over the processed AI stuff. Your original stuff shows a distinct person while the AI art LOOKS factory made.
i was going to say the same thing, his original art is distinct and the ai versions he made of them look cookie cutter and uncanny
hahaha he's so fuxking dumb 😂 it's kind of sad that an artist has to use a algorithm of other people's art to feel like he's an artist, also ironic when soon writing AI models are going to write Shad's "fantasy" books
@@Wizards0nly I figured out the best analogy for this. It's like getting a bunch of great ingredients, then cooking and preparing them and making some kind of excellent meal. That's an artist.
AI art is like taking all of those ingredients and throwing them into a blender and instead serving the "shake" as a meal.
Yes... you are technically getting the same nutrients. But to say they are AT ALL alike is just wrong.
As an artist, I completely agree. The effect on the social aspects of artistic life is also being overlooked. Many artistic kids (throw in music here, too, which can also be replicated by ai) , especially if they are shy or introverted, find purpose and friendships via their talent. But if nobody has any use for them and nobody cares, since they can just use a computer themselves, their unique talent loses much of its value. Also think of the friends or relationships we make for which the initial catalyst is meeting together for sharing our work, collaborating, shows and events, art school (which will become rapidly less popular...it's hard enough already convincing most parents to help their artsy teenager to go to uni to study art. It will be impossible except for the rich once everyone knows art careers don't exist anymore, replaced by ai)....all that will be gone. You'll just have sociophobic tech people in their rooms, pumping out generic AI art at the touch of a button, and no more of the sense of development and accomplishment that comes through refining skills and creating.
Natural will always be superior to processed and fake
I don't know how you can say that you have an "artistic eye" and everything else whilst completely missing that the light source (the sun) is behind her and yet you have loads of reflections and odd shadows everywhere.
Cope harder BOT.
@@snintendog Um ok?
That's the point, thinking you can develop an "artistic eye" without tons of actual practice and constant study is just delusional. Same for the "flawless" (?) anatomies, or for the overall style of the pictures. They're distasteful, early 2000s DeviantArt teenage empty pieces.
This one gets me, because in his reviews for Rings of Power he pointed out in one episode how the cavalry charge was coming from the wrong direction because "humans naturally pick up" on small details like the position of the sun and shadows cast by the environment. I guess his eye for detail goes completely blind when looking at his own work.
Talking of details, why does she have no knees? There's barely a line or shadow indicating a joint there.
Shad uses AI to larp as an artist.
LMFAO
Nice one
And he believes his own lies.
Everytime he says artistic eye take a shot
LOL
RIP
It really is indicative of someone more keen on convincing themselves as opposed to others. Ive watched several videos of folks just doodling and going on about their methods and techniques. The number of times these artists referred to their "artistic eye"? ZERO!
Hes defenetly insecure
You wouldn't be able to pour up a shot by the end of the video, both because the bottle would be empty and you'd be too far gone to move
even AI couldn't fix that anatomy
Tell that to Picasso, sometimes anatomical inaccuracy is the style
@@ZttackFrmBhindsometimes...
Tell me you know nothing about Picasso without telling me...
@@milionST "One of the most influential artists of the 20th century, he is known for co-founding the Cubist movement, the invention of constructed sculpture, the co-invention of collage, and for the wide variety of styles that he helped develop and explore."
I don't know if you've seen cubist art, but sometimes anatomical inaccuracy is the style.
@ZttackFrmBhind the difference is that an artist makes anatomical fallacies on purpose, shad on the other hand didn't notice the anatomy issues because he's not an artist
Bro sticks take-out in a microwave, presses a button, and calls himself a chef.
a stolen take-out in a stolen microwave
@@ProjectHana very true
"an chief"
@@amazinggrapes3045 fixed
That’s too much effort. He would force his brother to press the button.
AI art won't ever be art. It's like calling autocorrect an author. It's a computer trying to fill in the gaps, not a creator with a vision on what they want.
And a paintbrush is also not an artist. It's a _tool_ that an artist uses. Hilarious that you say that the computer _isn't_ an artist though, since I have another AI art hater who argues that it _is,_ and that Shad is the commissioner. Amazing the knots you people twist yourselves in to try and dismiss AI art.
@@WJS774 LOL I'm gonna write some prompts on my paintbrush. If it doesn't start painting for me, you're probably making a false equivalence.
@@WJS774you seem to misunderstand just how different a brush is from a piece of software that does it FOR you
@@RedHatGuyYT So you're also in the "The AI is an artist" camp, are you?
art, shart. Most terminally online artists that are bitching about this shit are mentally ill fucked up freaks who draw disgusting fetish porn and have a terrible grasp of form and lighting. These reprobates being automated and forced out of work is the greatest thing AI could give to humanity.
"I have a keen eye for proporsion"
Proceeds to show drawings with proporsion mistakes
Art can have objective mistakes? I'm pretty sure if the artist says 'I don't like this proportionality', and 'this is better for what I'm going for', they are the arbiters of creating their vision. If you disagree, that's fine.
@@OntheOtherHandVideos Lol Nice cope, but you’ll never be an artist.
i know tons of professional artists who blends many mediums including diffusion art. it is obvious your brain is far from fully developed. your mother needs to limit the screen time@@Scottymation
@@terriermonisgod LOL Oh I totally believe someone like you spazzing out knows pro artists. Nice salty projection. I'm sorry you wish you could draw. Whether you like it or not, it's not art, and the majority of even non-artists agree. People ask for refunds immediately when they find out what they commissioned was AI generated trash.
To play the devil's advocate, shad's errors are too consistent to be errors, and look more like stylization to me. Too bad the ai actually _erases_ that stylization...
Source of light behind, shine and reflections at the front what an ability, such skill wow, much dedication.
dont forget the head thats too big
You just don't understand artistic process /s
Yeah, he has such an artistic eye!
Three sources of light lmao, one on the back, front, and top
He's shown he can draw decent pictures, so you can't claim he's not an artist. You could say he's not a good one if you want.
I don't get the fuss over AI; artists can still draw, it's not stopping them. All that could happen is art of their quality becomes more common. But that is not a complaint that AI is stopping them, instead it is that AI attacks their ego.
I cannot emphasize this more: Calling yourself an AI artist is like calling yourself an trained athlete because you're good at playing fantasy football, but worse, because there are very real artists who's AI program you are using whose work was used to train this program. Artists who have spent years and decades to produce the artwork that you, right now, are claiming to call your own.
Not really, simplifying it to fantasy football is ignoring all the nuances with the current generators present today, granted it's a way easier medium compared to almost all artistic expressions. When people say art, in most contexts they imply an expression of something with a degree of sophistication, like how talking is not an art but singing definitely is, you may consider that just putting words in a generator is not art but you'd also excluded a bunch of stuff common example being photography.
@@ainzy3889 AI Art will always be souless copying, with no intrinsic creativity to itself. Using an AI "tool" to make art does not make you an artist, it makes you an AI programmer. That is stealing the work from countless artists for the AI to do it's work. And thankfully, Governments are finally putting tech bros in their place. First was the NFT crash, now comes the AI art crash, that it rightfully deserves. Thieves, all of you.
@@SiphonRayzar
firstly: soulless or soulful doesn't mean anything and I don't know what you're saying by intrinsic creativity which a normal painting has that ai art doesn't because both depend on the person.
Secondly: You don't even have a definition of artist that can't apply to someone using ai to express their thoughts, someone using ai is not considered a programmer unless they are using a model and actively training it.
Thirdly: Can you give me a meaningful distinction between someone looking at drawings from Murata or Stanley and then slowly learning how they do it and someone training an ai model on them and it slowly distinguishing one shape from the other until both can draw Spiderman in any position imaginable.
Also if these exchanges are getting too long and too broad just narrow down which point you want to hammer out.
@@ainzy3889 As far as intrinsic creativity, I mean AI art has none. A painting painted by someone by hand has intrinsic creativity behind it, a sculpture sculpted by hand has intrinsic creativity behind it. A comic strip drawn by hand has intrinsic creativity behind it. AI art that is spat out from a prompt, does not.
And that ties into the third point, someone looking at other art and usint THEIR OWN TWO HANDS to create something inspired by it, is far different from a thief entering text into a prompt and spitting out AI garbage.
@@SiphonRayzar why does a hand matter exactly?
man, this video really makes me wanna draw
Same. I just bought Jazzas art supplies kit thing and I need to use it more.
I wonder what his opinions are on this video.
@@dylandreisbach1986 I hope he is ashamed of his Birchers opinion
@@dylandreisbach1986 have you seen the clip of him trying to knock some sense into shed
@@willoverdoseonmusic link?
it's funny how ai art has a definite "look" when it's going for "realistic artwork" style that soft wavy look is unmistakeable
What do you mean by soft wavy look? (legitimate question, I go to the eye hospital every 3 months lol)
@@Krytern If you look at enough of those ai generated pictures, you will pick up on this quality. We can't really explain it to you, doesn't work that way.
@@KryternIt looks like it's trying to merge a real image with a paint filter in different intensities, so it gives of the "almost real" look that ends up looking all weird.
Bad engines. You can get photograph quality results on the right ones.
And the generic Anime, cartoon stuff I keep seeing in Pixiv....
It's becoming so agregious I can spot it easily.
Someone clearly has not had their ego checked
The only good thing to come out of this video is the comment section
I rewatched this and something just occured to me. Why do you express your artistic eye and profound anatomical skill just now, when AI became popular? Why didn't you do it earlier?
This guy has always been insecure with low self awareness but this video is (as he would say) astounding! He has no artistic training or skill at all and he doesn't know.
@@snorgonofborkkad he lost a whole lot in my eyes. I used to watch his content but now it is hard to do even that. This behaviour of his is nothing short of delusion and the desperation permeating through this video (and the following 3 hour long reply to its criticism) betrays the insecurity you've mentioned. He will say we are the ones who are dum cavemen afraid of progress, but then so be it.
Cavemen at least have a soul weaved in their art. What he is doing is, at best, being a post-producer: he cares for the final result only - which he admitted himself - not the process of it which makes art art; which makes art human-worthy.
P.S.
What I have also noticed is that he doesn't understand that time and effort spent on something is not an equal measure for quality and skill. I can make sand castles all day but I won't call them marvels of architecture just because I spend a whole day making them.
Probably because people started making awful arguments based primarily on emotions when AI became popular.
@@snorgonofborkkad Are we really gatekeeping art now? He doesn't need artistic training or skill (which he clearly has, even if it isn't perfect) to make a valid point.
@@olivercharles2930 do you owe Shad a blowjob or something? You’re replying to every single comment coping your ass off
I once designed an entire website by asking an intern to change the style of my university's website until I liked it. Artists like us are so misunderstood and discriminated against.
Honestly your old art look better and with more potential, with practice and time you could have achieved better and more interesting results than with AI, you just choose the easy way.
Walking to the other side of the continent doesn't improve and skill. You don't learn how to walk by walking a lot.
Learning to draw is learning a skill. Everyone knows that which makes your response delusional to any sane person.@kingofassholes4348
@kingofassholes4348 probably the worst analogy I’ve ever heard regarding art and Ai art
@kingofassholes4348 It's more like paying someone to drive you everywhere so you can claim you know how to drive when in reality learning to drive yourself would have been so much better in the long run, even if it takes effort and is hard.
@kingofassholes4348 It's more like instead of visiting the other side of the continent, you just like look at photos and what your friend told you about the place and then saying you are an expert on that part of the world
i would never look at his old art. There is nothing special about it, there are hundreds of thousands images of similar quality on deviantart.
it's crazy how self-important you sound
"I am an artist🤓"
only someone with a deep knowledge in anatomy will see what is wrong with this image.
me: the funko pop sized head.
The IA master: the width of the shoulders
Me: yeah sure.
😂 😂
And?
@olivercharles2930 it proves that he has not artistic eye, he is not an artist, he doesn't know anatomy
When painting, you pick a light source and shade according to the direction. If you have a sunset/sunrise in the background, the character would be masked with a soft warm shadow and have an orange light contour. You can see this on the clouds, as they are mostly dark and the edges of the clouds are lit up by where the sunlight hits the shape.
You can obviously look at the leg's direct light with the sun behind her and recognize, that's probably the only source of light available up here, and it's somehow hitting the front despite being behind her. The problem with your approach is that by skipping some of the essential steps in learning how to paint, you don't know how to recognize and see these mistakes, as you haven't taken the time to sit down and question where and how you should add light and shadow in a painting.
There's no denying that you can produce some incredible looking pieces and AI makes for a powerful tool in the hands of a skilled artist, but you have to acknowledge the main issue with AI to create good artwork, which is the lack of consistency that creates distortion. And while I understand the criticism against AI is unfairly harsh, you can also see the reason why in this video---it's efficiency without proficiency.
To me AI art is just calarts 2.0 if you have calarts AI art will make it just as bad if not worse.
Hey, i just wanted to say that I like you're answer because it is reasonable and balanced.
Bounce light from the white clouds maybe?
The amount of distortion in AI art dramatically shrinks with every new model. A year ago DALLE2 struggled to produce any humans at all without messing up all the details, these days you can produce images within seconds that are indistinguishable from a real photo. DALLE3 also comes along with drastically improved language understanding, letting it generate even complex scenes that used to be impossible previously. I'd go so far to say that AI art already has surpassed the vast majority of human artists, by a good margin no less. And it happens to be 1000x as quick as them. Finding tiny little mistakes might help humans not feel completely obsolete yet, but if you'd look at human art with that same level of scrutiny, the majority of it wouldn't pass either. The difference is that AI art is still getting better at rapid pace while humans are kind of stuck in their humanity.
This is a very interesting criticism since it is directed towards *his* artistic knowledge or lack thereof in certain aspects, not a criticism of his process or the validity of using AI as a tool, because if he had such knowledge, he would apply it to his tools.
As a writer, do you feel the same about ChatGPT and writing fiction?
What's going on with chatgpt?
@@mihaisfira7612Then he's a cretin.
I use it to get over a writers block.
Granted I don't like the direction it takes but it gives me something to think about in a different way.
Then I write what I came up with.
@@grinningtiki220 Same.
@@ernie9538 people are selling books on sites like Amazon written entirely by ChatGPT as a quick way to make money.
watching the comments roasting this video is more interesting than the video itself.
This felt like a 90/10 90 percent A.I assisted instructions (Maths) and 10% person making tweaks in Photoshop, I don't know how to make that sound positive.
Youre assuming that the AI input is negative. Why?
Maybe even less Human input, if he removes his AI tool "effort" he is left with just a doodle.
@@Akko1 I disliked his aggressive tone, he reminds me of this guy's channel called "Blaines", claims getting rare Pokémon from a device a "hacked Nintendo Switch" which gives players any Pokémon they want, like rare events with the same move set makes it legal.
They way Shad and Blaines words there content is very similar to each other.
More like 99/1
@@Likexner because you need a data set. Those data sets are full of images sourced unethically. This in turns leads to folks like shad pumping out shite and expecting head pats for being a good little noodle.
Let's say three people challenged themselves to walk from one end of the US to the other, coast to coast. The first person walked the entire distance on foot as intended-it was tough and they might have wanted to give up at points, but they did it. The second person rented a bike after awhile, making the journey a bit easier in some places (going downhill), a bit tougher in others (going uphill), but overall a bit quicker. Maybe not as impressive as walking, yet still an admirable.
Lastly, the third person walked half way, decided to call an Uber, got in the passenger seat, and gave the driver directions. Then, about 10 minutes from the destination, they got out and walked to the finish line-thus claiming they finished the challenge.
Ask yourself (particularly you, Shad): Was what the third person did impressive? Did they put in as much effort as the other two challengers? Can the third person truly claim they've put in hard work and stand side-by-side with them?
Yeah, there's plenty of people who just put in text and have the AI make an image. Same as there's people who take crappy selfies, but that doesn't discredit the art of photography, just because anyone can do it poorly. But also, you do know there's people who have ideas for art but can't make their hands do the work, right? If AI lets someone with Parkinson's, or partial blindness, or a missing hand, bring out the images they see in their head, then I stop caring about whether they put in the same work as some master draftsman.
@@AlexReynard Never said anything about people with disabilities in my comment. If someone with a disability uses AI to generated approximations of images in their mind, that's perfectly fine. It becomes a problem *if* they say they're an "artist". That was the point of my comment-someone claiming to be something they aren't (Shad claiming he's an "artist", like the third marathon runner "finished" the marathon).
Regardless, I'd urge people with disabilities to try and overcome them than rely on AI. There are real artists with Parkinson's or missing hands worth checking out. To name a few: Norman Greenstein (Parkinson's), Henry Fraser, (paralysis, paints with his mouth), and Linda Riveros (born with no arms, paints with her feet).
this is uncontestable, i cant imagine how jazza would feel abt this. i think the correct way to use ai is to use it as a reference or a source for inspiration e.g backgrounds, i use it for backgrounds as im a comic artist. when i find something i like ill save it and draw my own base from it, that way im not actually using the artists original work in my final panel / product.
Based take. I use it for curing art block and such.
@2006HondaCivicD yea I can see that being viable too, I usually watch media I'm inspired by to cure my artbloxk sometimes it works other times I'm that deep in a block nothing will save me
Hell, even just be upfront that it is AI art and don't try and conflste yourself with traditional artists who spend years on their craft making their own styles.
@@bluecanine3374 to be fair though, this is a style and art of an artist, ie shad, in their as well no one is saying don't acknowledge you used ai art tools, but that's what they are, tools.
@@bluecanine3374 Does it really matter thou? Its essentially like one person deciding to grill toast and another person using a toaster to make toast. Grilling takes more skill but at the end of the day its still just toast. In the same vein, it's just art. It's not life or death bro.
I've been a self-taught artist for over ten years and never once have I prattled on about my keen, artistic eye to people. Have I been doing it wrong all this time? 😭😭
Isn't this like commissioning an artist and then editing his painting?
You are correct.
yeah, and then taking a whole bunch of other art pieces and making a collage out of it
Or copying an image from the internet and claim its yours.
yeah but he didn't even pay the artist, and he uses the work of multiple artists to get one result. You see the big problem, it's worse than people imagine
@@whyarehandlesathingonyoutube You don't know how AI models work, get out with your dumb autist propaganda.
I remember this one time I was browsing on pinterest and came across this beautiful piece of art. I distinctly remember my heart sinking when I read in the description that it was AI-generated. As an artist who has poured almost all of my live into my passion, it's really disheartening seeing people unwilling to put in the same kind of effort into what they claim to love.
Yeah... It's like the lamest possible timeline.
I'm an okay artist who spends A LOT of time making each piece. It's disheartening to know I can pour dozens of hours into a single piece and someone can merely take it and instruct an AI to "make improvements" in some facet. A few minutes of iterating and boom, it's a version of my art that's better than mine.
It's not like I make art for a profit or for an audience. I make it as a form of self-expression. Some of my works are my favorite pieces of art, but this rapid iteration stuff cheapens that for me for some reason.
I dunno, it just feels bad.
If I wanted to pick up art today, I would have certainly given up at the beginning.
This shite to me is nothing else than comission by proxy. Taking the combined work and effort of people without compensating them while simultanously saturating the market they depend on. AI can be a great tool for many things but it´s wide implementation has frustrating consequences for many. Seeing people then calling themself "artists" because they comissioned their work to an algorithm leeching of the skills of real people sucks.
@@jenispizz2556that is not how AI art works. Like at all
@@Gruftkriechernot how ai art works
@@zjaeriqsanders1731 Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. What I described is not a common implementation of AI art, but is completely possible with current tech and will only become more proliferated.
That's the lame future I envision.
“The artistic eye” - Shad, for 20th time
What's even funnier is that he doesn't have one
lol he is trying to make ot a thing.
For the 20th time, while not addressing the light source in front of her while the sun is in the back
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 I thought I was the only one that noticed that! I haven’t seen any other comments addressing that
Her head is also colossal in comparison to the rest of her body
This is even more insane than what other creators made it out to be.
This video is absolutely wild. Its even funnier when I found out Jazza is his brother lmao. Its like a school nurse saying doctors are overrated and guess what? WebMD can do a doctors job so much better all you need to do is input all the symptoms.
I told mcdonalds that my burger had too much onion on it
I am an amazing chef
Now tell him to make Fried Chicken and then a side of Pizza?
AI has no limits and can render any image. Your fast food burger pit can't compete.
@@DigitalDreamsForeverNot even close to the point the guy was making dude.
@@DigitalDreamsForeverTerrible answer
@@t1w894 no it does make sense. Explain to those people that dont know how to make fried chicken and pizza how to make it and how make it exactly how you want it to taste.
@@Dead_Goat still completely misses the point of the original comment
Shad: "theres one more problem with this image, im wondering if you can see it"
My primal brain: head too big. Head too big. The head is so obviously large. I hate it. Run. You are now experiencing a fear response.
Shad: "thats right, the shoulders are too wide and masculine"
You were thinking head too big, I was thinking body too small XD
Goes to show that even with AI if you don't have an understanding on anatomy, proportion, pose, form, and silhouette, you won't know how to correct what the AI generates when it inevitably gets it wrong. You can't generate fundamental skills and good taste in your brain with an AI prompt.
It's perspective.
@@foxorian the anatomy issues were from HIS misunderstanding not the ai.
@@louis-dubois-artist its called "foreshortening" and no, it isnt
You guys do realize the claims of stealing aren´t because the AI art does the work for you; it's because the models were trained using thousands of unlicensed images. Without the consent of the creators, it has the same stigma as tracing. You are basically editing a mashup of stolen content. I´m in the process of creating my own model based on my own art. It won't be as BADDASS as the many models we have out here, but it will definitely be my own. More people should try that, but it is a very a workfulll process. Do that, and no one will question your skills
Who cares? You know that artists don't just magically draw everything out of their head right? They are using a dozen different references from other artists for lighting, composition, form, character design, etc. Everything is iterative and the best ideas are stolen.
"Without the consent of the creators, it has the same stigma as tracing."
No. Flat-out no. When you trace, you take ONE image for direct copying. The AI is looking at thousands of images for reference of what things look like, then creating an image that has never existed before. It has NEVER been called theft for a person to do that. Can you imagine a gallery suing me because I went there, looked at the art, came home, and made my own art in a similar style?
@@AlexReynard Don't try to explain to people too dumb to do a simple google search to find out information on their own. They don't care, they just wanna be ignorant and mad.
@@JustFeral Well, they likely don't WANT to be. But the anti-AI-art crowd are LOUD and not shy about bullying, so a lot of people cave in and agree with them due to social pressure. Or, just because outrage is addictive. It's why I try to offer explanations. If I just insult them, that gives them a good reason to respond with anger. If I don't take the bait, and they want to respond with anger anyway, they have to double down and be a jerk. If anyone's reading along, they get to see which side of the argument responds with respect and which doesn't.
Even tracing, you still do it yourself.
Like seriously, is he delusional?
Yes
Very
Extremely
totally
He doesn't meet the clinical definition of delusional by any means.
Am I the only one who thinks that the edited image of super girl looks ten times worse than the unaltered AI image? For all that braging about his "artistic eye" he somehow managed to make the image a lot more fake and weird than the original.
The original at least had a cartoonish face, so your eye doesn't immediatedly start looking for human proportions, but once you slap a photorealistic face on this whole thing, all that flies out of the window. Not to mention his artistic eye also butchered the already weird, but somewhat passable pose (the original looks like she's tilted forward, about to take off, or at least it seems to be what the AI was trying to do, hence the larger head and broad shoulders compared to the rest of the body), but his tweaks made the pose flat and on the same plane, while mostly keeping the original proportions. The result speaks for itself, everyhing is broken, but especially the absolutely gigantic head.
@@jakubchalupa8510 I completely agree. Not to mention that the buildings around her and the far away city down below in the original made it a lot more interesting to look at from a compositional standpoint. The edited version just looks like she is put infront of a green screen or something. Hard to put it into words but the character just looks weirdly out of place.
Well, Art is still subjective. Guess it was more important to him to show his wife like a superwoman-angel
It's almost like his artistic choices make a difference in the final image from when the AI was just doing it all itself. Almost like that was the entire point of the video. I bet that if he was showing a picture that he had drawn on paper you wouldn't be saying "that's not art, the proportions are wrong". The double-standards are hilarious.
@@WJS774 Alright, he made a difference but he made it worse. So what's your point? I am sure competent artists could fix the mistakes the AI made, but then why would they use it in the first place and not just draw whatever they want from scratch?
Can I just say, honestly, what an incredible gift you have. You truly have such a keen artistic eye for the written prompt. I can only imagine the amount of years of pure dedication, patience, and discipline it must’ve taken you to get to where you are today - one doesn’t simply write prompts the way you do overnight (that would be nice wouldn't it?).
Your ability to think up words in your head and bring them to your two index fingers and out onto the keyboard is second to none (I don’t even care that you sometimes misspell words or accidentally include the same word twice, was Rembrandt perfect?).
I think we can all agree that you are without question an Artificial Artist of the highest caliber and I hope one day I'll be as skilled as you (a boy can dream). Also, great job Stable Diffusion on the artwork!
This is a sarcasm on a whole nother level
Cope harder, The skill of using ai can be used to free time and money so that you can spend that time on things that actually matter in the long run, Shad wouldn't've been as successful as he is by spending his life on a few skills, only poor unsuccessful people main a few skills with little or no adaptation .The average successful person knows how to monetize their own skills and adapt to the marketplace and the most successful people learn how to leverage skills overall and make them better, just because all these artists getting out of a job when its one of the MOST fluid forms of employment shows how inept they are in life.
@@agent1798 Money really ru(i)ns us doesn't it? The thing is, he is making himself to be an "artist", not a prompter hobbyist. Is like calling yourself a mathematician after learning to use a calculator, but not any mathematics at all.
I swear that AI users will dedicate "thousands" of hours doing everything they can to be seen as artists except learning how to illustrate themselves.
No, we truly don't care if you think we are real artists. All I ever wanted to was bring my imagination to life and I never had the skills or talent and now that doesn't matter. Still not perfect, but one day technology will progress to the point we will be able to create art with out minds alone. Its a beautiful future.
@@fdsgdxfgddfgdfgdfg3814it's a shitty future, not beautiful at all
and there is no such thing as talent
@@fdsgdxfgddfgdfgdfg3814it’s fine to imagine things using AI art. What you cannot do however is claim you are an ‘artist’ because of that. It’s a bleak future for artists
@@fdsgdxfgddfgdfgdfg3814 guy in the video does care and tries desperately to prove the thing. Creating concepts on the go is fine. Polishing them up is artists job. It should help artists create their works. Not replace them. Otherwise you are missing vital step of having someone with actual knowledge and skill stepping up to correct and actually prepare the work
@@zenthous9568 We can't claim to be artists? Says who? Wasn't aware of anyone having the authority to decide what is and isn't art or who is and isn't an artist. People tried to gatekeep photographers and digital artists too and it didn't work. It simply cannot work.
Don't misinterpret this though, I am not challenging you. You can believe what you want to believe, but I would ask that you allow others to do the same. You will never have the authority to tell someone they can't call themselves an artist. In fact there isn't a single person on Earth with that authority. No one owns the concept of art.
Best solution is to once again classify what type of art/artist someone is. Photographers do photography, painters paint, digital artists make digital art, directors make movies, writers write, singers sing, and ai artists make ai art. You can say a painter isn't a digital artist, but you can't say they aren't artists. These are all forms of art, but they go by different titles and that is completely fine.
As an actual artist, I find this video veeery interesting. So you accuse the writers of the new MCU stuff of being hacks without realizing that they're being hacks (and rightfully so) but then you turn out to be a hack yourself who just doesn't realize it. Interesting indeed.
As an artist of 40 years, I wanted to let you know that your drawing skills may be a 1.5 out of 10 at best. And this is why you are getting grief. People see you using AI as a Crutch instead of a Tool.
Kinda like how photographers are just failed painters, right?
@@massimo4307why do you hate phtogrpaheds
@@samuelreed1195 Seems like people hate AI artists for some reason, and I'm simply pointing out how moronic they are for doing so.
@@massimo4307 they probably y hate them for calling themselves artist when the majority of the work is being done by the computer
@@samuelreed1195 The funny thing is I remember a time that all Artists were not lumped together. A singer was a Singer, a photographer was a Photographer Etc.. But they got lumped together over funding for the arts, as it was getting reduced over time.
Shad, I don't think you truly understand just how much some corporations genuinely loathe having to work with "creatives". People with money have long been looking for ways to reduce or eliminate the humans under them. The idea that someone else profits from their ventures is repugnant to many of them. So long as they can sell what they think is a marketable product that's all that matters. It's greed, pure and simple. And greed cares not for our ideals.
Also... Shad... as you yourself pointed out you're exceptional in this particular method of creating artwork. I don't know if you've heard of the recent controversy with AI art in the D&D book "Bigby Presents: Glory of the Giants". Though done by a professional artist, there was still a lot of obvious tells like wolves having hands and humanoids having crooked hands and feet. Stuff that you clearly would have caught and corrected. But "professionals" are not held to your standards. That's a problem.
So yes. I'm still afraid of AI art. Not because it's not a great tool for legitimate artists to use. I'm not disagreeing with you at all on that. I'm terrified of it because of how it will be used to either cut out creatives, or else to allow "professional artists" of abysmal quality to thrive because they're willing to sacrifice their integrity to do things on the cheap.
Call me ignorant all you want. Just pray that history proves me wrong and you right.
EDIT: Wow. The comments on this one are real winners. NOT! So many misanthropes worshiping the almighty dollar. Kinda sad that they don't realize that AI will eventually replace all of their jobs too. Possibly within their own lifetimes! Oh well. Hopefully none of us will have to live in that dystopia.
Considering how whiny and entitled a lot of you are I wouldn't want to either.
and? People want to make money… that’s what artists work for, no? That’s what they are paid for, right? Work?
That work merely becomes unnecessary when AI can do better, faster and cheaper.
Ai art is just superior. And it will replace artists. That’s just a fact.
@@62syDid you even read what OP typed.
@@The_Novu Every AI bro I've ever met has been a worse person than even the worst artists.
@@62sy It's really not, both in terms of costs on a larger scale, copyright, accuracy, consistency, readability in a lot of cases, sustainability (yeah good luck getting artists to keep drawing so you can steal their art if you make them obselete), and quality.
so i work at a local comic book company and if the president who doesn't do the illustrations tells me what to draw, my work is basically their work? huh....
he really opened with a long winded explanation of why he thinks the destination is better than the journey
Bro it aint elitism, your image has a head too big and the light source is all over the place, but to know that tou would need artistic skill, and you clearly don't have one
Im something of a Particle Physicist myself, because i use the 30 dollar website to build my particle accelerator. Based on shad's logic
Oh geez this is so hard
*opens image generator
I hope this won't take me weeks to do
*types prompt
This is taking so much outta me
*edits prompt
My hands are aching so much
*adds new line to prompt
The struggles of being an artist is so hard
*edits prompt again
Called his wife "creature"
huh, the like to dislike ratio is actualy more even than expected. 4.3k likes, 7.5k dislikes. I was expecting it to be worse.
Also just commission an artist, that way you are supporting actual artists and not tech-bro's.
Those are the hardcore shad fans. If this video ever blows up it will be overwhelmed with down votes.
I'll commission an artist if I can afford and I know they won't be a pain to work with
But if not, I'll take a fast food burger over a nice meal
@@amazinggrapes3045there are ton's of new artists looking to get their work out there, that will do work for super cheap, or free.
@@amazinggrapes3045 I'm still looking for one who can make me hundreds of variations until I finally find what I want, is easy to work with, that I can afford, doesn't mind me doing touch-ups or completely changing the style, can work very quickly on short notice, and did I mention that I'm broke?
The one concern I have with AI art is homogeneity. Every AI piece looks like AI. If this doesn’t matter to people, that’s one thing. But the result, however good it looks, removes variance (which can only be achieved by human individuals).
I think its due to the fact these works are made by a lot of people using the same model and embeddings/loras. There will definitely be a lot variance if everyone is force to build their own custom models but a majority would prolly look shitty.
It's hilarious to me that AI is cannibalizing at this point. It takes indiscriminately from images online > saturates the internet with AI-generated images > takes AI images as basis for more AI images. They embed their mistakes and what makes them look like AI garbage more and more, making them more uncanny.
? I have trouble to get two similar results, e.g. I have two people who each have different eye colours in the picture, when I want to get the details of the cloths changed it changes me the eye colours too to align both persons together and the other details I was content with evolve too - I have trouble to keep the look consistent - so I do not get your problem here?
@@boysteacher3818 it is INCREIBLY easy to train a lora for a totally different style, at least with our current local models. takes a few hours to overnight depending on model/hardware + time sourcing and tagging images. Most people dont take the time, since it still requires a basic understanding of what you are doing.
Also gotta love the OP "Every AI piece looks like AI." (except the ones that are too good to notice) Of course the response will be, WELL I CAN ALWAYS TELL. I doubt it, but please by all means continue with the confirmation bias.
@@Chociewitka I'm talking about the style, not the content involved.
My man needs some treatment for narcissism
That's like ordering food online and saying, i'm a chef now and the delivery service is just one of my kitchen tools 😂
bro has a a begining of a quite unique art style and decide to ruin it all for the sake of hyperrealistic AI plastic dolls
There are more people drawing the way he does than people who can do art similar to these realistic renders (they're not hyperrealist, that's its own style and movement).
Honestly the only thing I can respect about this video is that after four months you haven't had a breakdown and deleted it yet
Interesting... This is more Human-assisted AI art rather than AI-assisted Human art, but the line is getting blurrier. Nevertheless, these results do not involve enough effort to be so proud of it and much less to call this art your own. Being able to direct the AI and correct some mistakes is the work of a producer/director/client, not that of an artist.
Very well said.
Usually, a commissioned artist gets these kinds of responses because their drawing isn't exactly how the client envisions the art.
The difference is that the AI is particularly shit and needs an insane amount of additional info.
@SystemBD "these results do not involve enough effort to be so proud of it" "much less to call this art your own."
By whom? The Fuhrer?
@@kamataros5172 "needs an insane amount of additional info." Which the person wielding the tool of AI is tasked to input. Hence the term artist.
@joeblogs6598 that doesn't make any sense. At which point does one become an artist?
When i miscommunicate with my commision artist for 246 times, and we just go back and forth until I'm happy, I'm still just the client. But when we get to iteration 247 I'm suddenly the artist myself and the person actually drawing is just a tool.
It's also very rational of you to involve hitler. Cope harder about being unable to produce art.
But don't fret, it's not too late. You can still go to the store and buy a pencil and paper and start learning! You might even enjoy making something on your own!
@@kamataros5172 "At which point does one become an artist?" You tell me, as you clearly believe there is an objective measure.
To me it's clear using AI to create art makes you an artist, because you're making art. It's a tool like any other.
You used Stable Diffusion to put your wife's face on a picture of Supergirl. What do you want, a cookie?
This is sorta educational and helps explain how Stable Diffusion works a bit but it doesn't make you an artist. You should put time and effort into becoming better at drawing on paper.
Your old drawings will look so much better with practice. Don't give up. Put the AI tools away.
essentially saying "I'm a chef because I ordered Dominoes"
"You have to know exactly what words to say to get the exact type of pizza with the exact toppings you want, and only someone with a chef's eye, like me, can do that."
@@Tysto I technically made the pizza since I added my own toppings, not just any toppings but toppings only someone with a chef's eye can master.
@@Tystook say make an AI picture that actually comes out looking exactly like you want, since it's apparently so easy
Or order the pizza from someone whose language you don't know, for a task of equivalent difficulty
@@amazinggrapes3045 A pizza from a place that doesn't know what a pizza is.
all of the faces look photoshopped on. Its super weird and unnerving.
Bro applied his artistic talent of not knowing wtf is light source to make some mid looking picture.
Is your helmet not a bit tight, sir?
Imagine having a friend like Jazza and calling AI bs an art 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Jazza is his brother which makes it even more insulting
I though the dude was all about historical weapons, why is he shilling for ai art lol. I mean he claims he is a good artist but, his art skills are just basic.
@@aelion7761he is tilted because his brother its a real artist an he is not good
Holy shit, knowing that makes sense of everything now. He’s obviously trying to deal with the fact that his brother received all the good genes.
It probably makes it even worse that even now as an adult he has to live in Jazza’s shadow on RUclips. 😂
Well, unfortunately, Jazza has made quite a few videos promoting AI, one with Shad on this channel, while they both gush over the whole thing.
Also feel so sorry for jazza to deal with you in that one broadcasted session.
Ooh which one? That sounds entertaining
its them playing an RP thing. the title of the clip is minor evidence to shadiversity being protective of his status as an artist.... the way he goes off on a tangent about him being a pro is just giga chad insecure energy. jazza seems so confused when it came out of nowhere and he then basically says "yes of course you are" cause he wouldnt shut up about it... jazza even says at the end of it "my god this is awkward" its HILARIOUS @@croutendo2050
"Art is very important to me."
Then why not get better at it instead of using AI?
why not do both? mind = blown
@@Strange9952 because the AI is a handicap
it's a tool @@Oltiemal
@@Strange9952 Like a bus is a tool for walking.
@@Strange9952 My phone is a tool to call a carpenter. Guess I am a carpenter now.
Shad I've been watching you for years, I love your content... I never knew you had a complex like this. Please talk to your brother and/or get some help, this isn't healthy, lying to yourself like this.
Proud of you for not having the skills to carry out your artistic vision and using a computer program to plagiarize people with actual skill ❤
I wonder if the AI-generated books that sell better than his novel would get the same response from him.
To be fair...I've read better AI generated stories than his novel. If nothing else AI generated works have less spelling and grammar mistakes.
Pretty much all authors use AI-assisted tools when writing nowadays.
@rockoman100 Unless you are counting spellchecker...no they aren't. But if you have a source to cite for that claim 🤷♂️ cite it.
I do editing and writing courses and couldn't name you a single one that I'm aware of. The only exceptions I can think of does not come close to covering "pretty much all authors." It's more like the person with little experience asked to crank out an employee handbook for some business.
@@rockoman100 Not in the way Shad is using AI to create the image in this video. The equivalent for prose would be having the AI generate a short story or novel, tweaking a few things about it, having it regenerate, tweaking a few more words, etc.
Writers do not write that way, and no writer would call that writing, either.
"Because I know how to create feet..."
Tarantino has entered the chat
Apparently he thinks all feet are hobbled.
Hmm, I’m finally watching your video Shadi because many artists in my community compared yours and Ergojoshs takes on AI
There’s a very distinct and significant difference between what you and Josh are communicating - and that has to do with your career focuses
Josh is a professionally trained artist who drew and researched using raw human skill throughout 90% of the process
You aren’t a professionally trained artist who is using AI to generate 90% of the image and is using photoshop to make minor tweaks to it
What Josh is creating is art - what you’re doing is basic photo editing
You didn’t create anything here, AI did
That said, what I can see is a passion for drawing (from your own drawings) and a creative imagination that could be taken to great professional heights if you did decide to train yourself in artistic fundamentals
You have the artists DNA, you just haven’t developed it to have any kind of artistic voice or independence - YET!
I really recommend that you take a few art courses because combining your imagination with strong drawing skills and you have yourself something really special
PS - you’ve successfully made many wives jealous out there. You’ve honoured your lovely woman simply through your desire to immortalize her visually
Keep in mind (though HOW relevant this is is up to you) but this guy is Jazza's brother (if you know who Jazza is in the art community)
@@dyastro7479of course, Jazza’s a very well known figure in the art community - and he is a well trained artist
My mother has a Masters in Computer Science (and fine arts), that doesn’t mean being her son makes me an authority on computer programming, my mother is - I know very little programming
That said, I appreciate Shadi sharing his perspective and creativity about AI with his community - it actually highlights a common public perspective from non-trained artists.
Imagine I produced a video claiming that I was an authority on medieval weaponry and armour crafting because I used a computer to simulate a sword fight using AI and tweaked it a bit manually
True authorities on the subject such as Shadi would be “up in arms” (pun intended)
However - I mean what I said earlier however - Shadi has definitely demonstrated that he’s done a ton of drawing and that says a lot about his emotional and personal relationship with art - he’s in deep
He’s the type of artist that I’d push towards taking a few courses online - mix his creativity, dedication and passion with a little training - he’ll be an artistic powerhouse in no time
I completely agree Adam. Sadly Shad said himself that he simply doesnt have time to learn to draw. Hes doing too many things. I think hed be able to achueve what he wants in year tops but ppl already tried to persiade him to learn to draw more. Been like a decade and none succeeded. Im afraid he wont take that step.
@@debilita9999he’s still young and talented, so he has all the time I. The world to explore other creative skills
He has to manage his priorities however, he has a huge channel and what he does requires a ton of research and production time
Rest assured I’ll always support his desire to build his artistic skills - heck, I’m a teacher, I’d be honoured to teach him myself. He comes across to me like the type of artist student I’d have a ton of fun with
this video caused tremendous damage to his bran image, seriously, this thing caused more damage than logan pauls forest video
Shad your art is really good. Your real art I mean. I like the 2000s style it reminds me of my favourite games and cartoons like jak and daxter and huntik. Genuinely your art didn't seem far off of Jazzas quality to me.
This ai art just ain't it. I think you could do something similar whilst keeping your identity and integrity. For example that lady with the sword is a great illustration with so much character, but the lighting flat and the details don't shine? (I think it's fine myself)
So feed it to the ai and then paintover its fixes yourself, you can paint reflections, non metallic metal and other things whilst keeping the image your style and identity.
I'd love for you to give up the bullcrap. Ai makes nice images, and as a photo basher myself I acknowledge it takes skill to fix the errors. But you could be the one painting in the fixes.
Hoping you turn back a little and make more of your art yourself, I like it.
The AI art is it.
@@olivercharles2930 If you don't care about art, then yes, AI is it. If you don't care about being a professional who has developed a skill set, sure go AI.
Anyone saying that AI takes time, or is this super difficult thing to do is just sniffing heavy amounts of copium.
@@olivercharles2930 I could never feel like I had any part in the creation of AI art. You just tell a machine to make art for you.
It doesn't feel good or anything. No better than a random Google search. I can find some good stuff, but none of it is my art...
@@Tasorius Again this can easily said about photography. You just point and click a button. It doesn't feel good or anything.
And I sincerely disagree with this sentiment. Especially with more in depth AI art generators like SD (Stable Diffusion) where you must juggle multiple systems together to get a decent image.
I would definitely find fun in that and I would argue it makes me an artist. Just one with quite a bit of help.
@@olivercharles2930 Only an idiot would say that, just like only an idiot would compare the two...
You are completely impossible to reason with...
i customised my mcdonalds order to not have pickles in my cheeseburger. i am chef
I truly cannot fathom why anyone cares what a computer thinks is good art. The art you actually made was stylized and actually interesting. The "art" that the computer made was some of the most boring, sterile shit I've ever seen
It's not what the computer "thinks" is good art, you don't understand what AI is if you think it has a "mind" that's not how it works
@@Strange9952 Ignoring how pedantic you're being with semantics, the fact that it doesn't have a "mind" is exactly why ai art is shit lmao
Wait until you see how good I am at adjusting the sliders on character creators in video games.
Hell yeah brother, you just created a 3D model technically speaking, so, that's art 😎😎
Can you make me Luna in Elden Ring?
You ignored the sun behind, and the weird parts of the boots near the knee, and the pattern symmetry... and the size of the head, the right hand seems disconnected but sounds like all this can be fixed...
Completely disagree on the part where you say you have your own “style” of ai art, as I’ve seen very similar pieces elsewhere.
Right?
No one can tell AI images apart based on who put the prompt in.
Because the image wasn't made by the prompter, it was made by the AI whole cloth.
Plus, even if he had it wouldn’t be his style, but someone else’s style he stole
I watched the whole video. You do have a process in how you help the AI generate an image. The final image looks... fine. And even though there is definitely some human imput, I would debate on how much of the image is truly YOURS. The AI did generate the original picture, and even though you gave it pointers by editing it in Photoshop, IT was the thing that made the changes you outlined.
As an artist, I don't really like ai. I think it can make cool abstract images. But when the ai is used for a whole image there's always this weird uneasiness in my guts. I can't really explain it. The images look... well... artificial, fake, or kinda plastic?
As others have said, I'm a bit curious what Jazza thinks about this.
Anyway, keep doing this if you want to. I'm gonna keep doing my thing.
As Philip DeFranco is fond of saying, AI is currently as bad as it will ever be. From this point on it will only get better. This artificial, fake, or kinda plastic aspect is going to improve. Good or bad? Time will tell.
>But when the ai is used for a whole image there's always this weird uneasiness in my guts. I can't really explain it.
Early / bad AI. I bet you've seen dozens, maybe hundreds of AI images by now that you've accepted as not just artwork, but outright photographs. If the person controlling it is clever and not lazy (many, many are lazy) there won't even be any of the normal tells like messed up lettering. The professionals will retouch an AI image after to fix that stuff.
I think that's a good thing because it tells me they're onto something. While I think AI in many cases today is more of a gimmick/joke than anything else I do believe in the future things will escalate to heights that will take our society to the next level.
The final image is arguably worse than the initial one the AI made.
Then you would be objectively wrong.
12:40 "My AI generated images have a particular look to them"
They literally look like every other AI generated image of this model.
For real
Is it just me or is her head huge in the final photo? Also, she's got a megan fox thumb on her right hand.
you reaaaally love patting yourself on the back
Exactly what I was thinking
"Her shoulders are way too bulky"
Meanwhile: Superman looking like an upside down Pizza slice
Superman has an exaggerated masculine proportion so it only makes sense for Supergirl to have an exaggerated feminine proportion.
Men and women have different bodies genius, u can’t apply ur equity to anatomy. Then again maybe u think women can have koks too
@@Chan-md2hb or just make her look like a fit woman athlete.. women athletes have shoulder muscles...
@@hungrysquirrelll Your mom's been looking for you, your ipad time is up, time for bed.
@@piper67890able having shoulder muscles isn't the same as having wide shoulders. Shad didn't remove Supergirl's shoulder muscles, he just made her shoulders less wide.