Saw this live and will never forget it the day I become a big Jaylen Rose fan.... and now aging like fine wine..... #Jaylen was serving mama’s cooking before mama’s cooking was popular.
WTH are y'all talking about? Jalen was absolutely right! You're sitting here and degrading someone who's not there to defend themselves. To me that's a PUNK move!
@@andrewa8161 exactly, but that serves the show and it’s interests, not so much as to provide a platform for the athlete. The fact that most don’t show up to “debate” these losers is because them coming on the show in a way validates what was said about them
I remember this clearly, Skip damn near cried. They had to come back and do a whole show to try and smooth it over because Skip was about to cry because his feelings were hurt
Stephen A has told Skip that he didn't know what he was talking about 'as usual'. And he has the nerve to lecture Jalen. Stephen A is such a hypocrite.
Steven A is phony perhaps he at least is aware of this and can work on it, because this same level of personal criticism is absent in Hockey, MLB, Soccer and Tennis. Meaning they go out of their way to promote 3 major sports yet athletes should be generally treated equally---which too often ends up not happening. The sport industry has hockey baseball tennis and golf analysts who examine the sport without singling out their play in such negative and moronic terms. In an ironic twist of fate Steven A and Bayless benefit from covering these major sports by salary and contracts and should demonstrate more discretion in how they cover these men. Jalen is very correct about the personal attacks and name calling as it is not universally repeated in other sport analyst's programs. This is unique in the 3 major sports and Steven A and Bayless cant pretend its okay when hundreds of other analysts not covering the big 3 approach their athletes, in heathly and respectful manners. Track and Field may be the only black dominated sport in the premier sprint events where they rise to great prominence without the negative and personal attacks, with some notable exceptions.
Jalen is not a b**** ,.....he is calm and collected. This is the way debates should be done . GOD wants us to have a spirit of gentleness...GOD Bless you all !
Jalen Rose is low key so clever. Watching this back I realized that every time Skip accuses Jalen of saying Skip doesn't know what he's talking about be he didn't play (which Jalen never said), Jalen always claps back with "| never said that. Plenty of women do a great job reporting on men's pro sports". This statement is basically intimating two things: 1. Skip is of the same importance to men's pro sports as women reporters are. And 2. Skip has the same knowledge and influence as a reporter does, which is insulting Skip's qualifications and credibility since Skip views himself as an analyst. You could tell every time Jalen clapped back with that statement, another little piece of Skip died inside. Jalen ripped this man's heart out back to back nights on live TV. What a legend.
Skip getting mad at Jalen proves his mindset back then. He got all upset cuz Jalen gave him the truth in which he didn't like. His coach gave him the truth by benching his ass. If Skip was as good as he tried to proclaim then why work on your game so that u earn at least more minutes ?? He ain't like it so he got upset and cried about it then went to the school paper so he could bash his school athletics. He carries that mental till this day, he doesn't like what you said or did he gon use the media to bash you.
Just my opinion so I could be wrong, but this seemed like a giant misunderstanding. It was a conversation about positions, so I took Skip asking Jalen “what were you?” to mean what position were you when you played. Jalen seemed to take it in the dismissive “you can’t have an opinion because what were you as a player” sense. It launched an important discussion but it seemed rooted in an honest but unfortunate misunderstanding.
i think jalen was looking for any reason to use that insult cause I remember him doing an interview on the whole situation and saying he had these insults ready for any opportunity and sure he could have misunderstood it, but i think he was salivating using that insult any moment he could and would have been used eventually anyways.😂
Start at 12:30 and listen for a few seconds. You'll hear Stephen A say that he doesn't do "name-calling", which has been proven to be false on more than one occasion.
Jalen was talking about name calling in the context of demeaning or destroying someone's character. We play the dozens our whole lives, especially when we were children. As an adult, when you call someone "a name", it's usually in an affectionate manner, jokingly if you will. That's what happened here.
Couldn't agree more. At least he was impartial, as far as the who the debaters were and what common sense about the topics were. I missed the days of Cold Pizza and 1st and 10. It's funny how they make a disclaimer that everything was genuine while following it up with commentary that proves it. You'll never anything like this on First Take. Fuck them for placating to ratings. ESPN used to be the one place I could go to and feel like I wasn't being had, thanks Obama....
He should take a look at why the job he has exists. It's not just positivity all the time. On the show, it says by his name "Jalen Rose NBA Analyst" not "Jalen Rose Public Relations".
I think the difference here is that what Jalen called Stephen was 1, not a derogatory nickname nor was it something negative like "Jabba the Hut Russell" or what he calls Kwame Brown. And 2, Stephen was on live with Jalen so he could respond
Jalen got this. Too funny how these “two sports” commentators want to prove their point by speaking out loud or being animated. Keeps going out topic ... this tabloid reporters sheesh !! Lol
The issue is some analyst cross the line when they question and say something about an athletes integrity, Most of the time Skip and Stephen a Cross the line in insulting athletes like Lebron james for celebrating and looking happy during offseason when he hasn't won a ring. What the hell is that? So they mean LBJ can't be happy because he didn't win a championship ring? They insult other people, yet they WHINE on espn first take when other people fires back at them, and they took it personal
Bottom line is that Skip couldn’t handle it when Jalen gave Skip a bit of his own medicine. Skip tries to justify his name calling and SAS just riding Skip’s jock. Everything else that Skip & SAS said was to make Skip not accountable for his actions.
I like how Skip can sit up there day after day...5 days a week and say whatever he feels about a person, but the minute someone brings out FACTS about his lie on air they make it into a whole 45 minute segment. Funny, he and Stephen A call athletes soft and too sensitive but out of allllllll the athletes they've spoken about badly, how many have responded??? The minute ANYONE says something about them they have to respond right away. So who's really the sensitive ones?
I do too, theyre passionate, skip more often than stephen a but i like them both, jalen rose doesnt seem to debate, mad respect as a player for jalen but he cant debate
It's not professional for Jalen to tackle skips integrity in public. It's a low blow, and Stephen A got hot at him. As for the argument on media criticism, it goes both ways. Sports stars are elevated financially from media popularity. Drama that media creates brings much more money to the table. However, insulting a man's character, work ethic, family, personal life.. Could cross the line only if it's not completely true.
He didn't get mad when Skip answered, he got mad when Smith got involved and tried to talk down to him. So you're saying Jalen should mind his business. Wabout Skip? You say Jalen should respect Skip. What about Skip respecting Jalen? You say Jalen should not take it personal. What about Skip? You sure give Skip alot of passes. Why is that? What is the difference between Jalen and Skip that allows Skip to treat Jalen and any other player like him that way?
Lol if Jalen had just said that...skip would've shut up..and the debate would've ended. Then they would've continued onto new topics. INSTEAD Jalen brings up the media thing..THEN they add the fuel to the flame that is STEPHEN A. SMITH..and somehow the debate rages on for another hour. Lol...classic.
thanks for uploading the whole thing dude loved watching these "threatened scribes" (they can't stand athletes coming on their turf) try and shut jalen down and fail to do so
That's sad if you're a junior and you still play JV, but now we know why skip bayless hates derrick rose and russell westbrook because their scoring point guards and skip couldn't be one in high school and he's basically jealous that they are
I have no problem with reporting pr analysts etc. Where we have a problem is the utter LACK OF RESPECT shown to Professional athletes. Truth is, steven a, you want their job. You can't say "thiago splitter" like you could even hang with him on the court. When you don't show the appropriate respect to athletes who've earned their dues being where they are. No one is gonna show you the respect as an analyst either
i agree with stephen a. athletes feel in order to be a analyst you should have playing experience but are quik to take a commentating job with no degree in the the field
Skip Bayless trying to justify why he was a sorry ass basketball player is everything !! Lol
Yeah.
Skip "I'm hate people who are better than me" Bayless haha ha
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
jason moreno Skip was speaking like Skip invented the 3pt shot....
He only made it worse.
This is bar none the best episode of any sports talk show ever.
Probably the funniest insult ive ever heard. "Water. Pistol. Pete. Jr." Lol. Hilarious.
2021 am still Hear Thanks Kwame
Saw this live and will never forget it the day I become a big Jaylen Rose fan.... and now aging like fine wine..... #Jaylen was serving mama’s cooking before mama’s cooking was popular.
crazy 😂
Skip got his feelings hurt by Jalen Rose. Skip got his feelings hurt in HS for not playing upto par so afterwards he chose to be journalist instead.
1.4 POINTS LMFAO
1.4 points as a 12th grader skip and as a 11th grader you played against 9th and 10th graders wow Jalen roasted you
WTH are y'all talking about? Jalen was absolutely right! You're sitting here and degrading someone who's not there to defend themselves. To me that's a PUNK move!
That's just not true and you know it. They have an open invitation to anyone that wants to come on
Charles Barkley is correct
@@andrewa8161 exactly, but that serves the show and it’s interests, not so much as to provide a platform for the athlete. The fact that most don’t show up to “debate” these losers is because them coming on the show in a way validates what was said about them
@@ryanpatlover4241 the only way an argument can be "validated" is if its compelling and people believe it or agree with it
I remember this clearly, Skip damn near cried. They had to come back and do a whole show to try and smooth it over because Skip was about to cry because his feelings were hurt
SUPER HURT,,,,, he does the same thing to athletes but he can’t take it himself 😂😂😂😂 🤡
Gotta love Jalen Rose...he is a coporate thug! Get em brah! He got up in Skip Bayless feelings brah...straight owned em!
What point is Stephen A even trying to make? It's ok to name call athletes because those athletes want their job? That makes complete logical sense?
Stephen A has told Skip that he didn't know what he was talking about 'as usual'. And he has the nerve to lecture Jalen. Stephen A is such a hypocrite.
Steven A is phony perhaps he at least is aware of this and can work on it, because this same level of personal criticism is absent in Hockey, MLB, Soccer and Tennis. Meaning they go out of their way to promote 3 major sports yet athletes should be generally treated equally---which too often ends up not happening. The sport industry has hockey baseball tennis and golf analysts who examine the sport without singling out their play in such negative and moronic terms. In an ironic twist of fate Steven A and Bayless benefit from covering these major sports by salary and contracts and should demonstrate more discretion in how they cover these men. Jalen is very correct about the personal attacks and name calling as it is not universally repeated in other sport analyst's programs. This is unique in the 3 major sports and Steven A and Bayless cant pretend its okay when hundreds of other analysts not covering the big 3 approach their athletes, in heathly and respectful manners. Track and Field may be the only black dominated sport in the premier sprint events where they rise to great prominence without the negative and personal attacks, with some notable exceptions.
Players getting paid millions of dollars sftu lol
They r fair game they get paid millions they can’t deal with it
Jalen is on point. The only issue is he gets interrupted every time he speaks.
Jalen is not a b**** ,.....he is calm and collected. This is the way debates should be done . GOD wants us to have a spirit of gentleness...GOD Bless you all !
Pistol water Pete Jr 😂😂 how does it feel when somebody calls you names skip 😂🤣🤣🤣
He doesn’t like it
Skip tried to take a shot a Jalen....Jalen dropped a nuke on Skip....,💣🔥
SAS straight up called him GAYLEN at 13:05 looool. How was this missed by all the networks?
Jalen been sitting on that weeks and waited for the perfect time to drop the BOOM
Jalen Rose is low key so clever. Watching this back I realized that every time Skip accuses Jalen of saying Skip doesn't know what he's talking about be he didn't play (which Jalen never said), Jalen always claps back with "| never said that. Plenty of women do a great job reporting on men's pro sports". This statement is basically intimating two things: 1. Skip is of the same importance to men's pro sports as women reporters are. And 2. Skip has the same knowledge and influence as a reporter does, which is insulting Skip's qualifications and credibility since Skip views himself as an analyst. You could tell every time Jalen clapped back with that statement, another little piece of Skip died inside. Jalen ripped this man's heart out back to back nights on live TV. What a legend.
WHOS HERE AFTER THE RECENT KWAME RANTS
I saw it years ago it was epic back then but today I’m back because if Kwame
Stephen A Smith is even more dramatic and fake than Bayless. This whole thing is nonsense.
They are missing the point of the disrespect and name calling all he saying is this is a human being a man with family kids wife it's disrespectful
i loved the way the host is conducting the debate
Jalen exposed a clown, jester, and paid actor
Skip getting mad at Jalen proves his mindset back then. He got all upset cuz Jalen gave him the truth in which he didn't like. His coach gave him the truth by benching his ass. If Skip was as good as he tried to proclaim then why work on your game so that u earn at least more minutes ?? He ain't like it so he got upset and cried about it then went to the school paper so he could bash his school athletics. He carries that mental till this day, he doesn't like what you said or did he gon use the media to bash you.
I was with Skip with his backstory like hmmm makes sense then Rose said other ppl don't have a platform to speak their side and I was like... YEP
This man Jalen a holding it down for the Gs
Still hysterical, in 2019..... Hahaha
Jalen gave skip the business. It was a great debate. It gets hot when its good.
I was shocked my ppg was that high 1.8 🤣
Omggg Skip played Jv as a junior??!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes there’s deep teams 😂
Great acting skills from Skip Bayless give that man an Oscar.
Just my opinion so I could be wrong, but this seemed like a giant misunderstanding.
It was a conversation about positions, so I took Skip asking Jalen “what were you?” to mean what position were you when you played. Jalen seemed to take it in the dismissive “you can’t have an opinion because what were you as a player” sense.
It launched an important discussion but it seemed rooted in an honest but unfortunate misunderstanding.
i think jalen was looking for any reason to use that insult cause I remember him doing an interview on the whole situation and saying he had these insults ready for any opportunity and sure he could have misunderstood it, but i think he was salivating using that insult any moment he could and would have been used eventually anyways.😂
Lmao, that water-pistol pete jr was hilarious, Lol.
Who else is there after mama’s cooking?😂😂
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
Uhhhh...ALL OF US !
✊🏾✊🏾
Jalen gives it em straight, no chaser! Love him or leave him alone!
Oh nah did Stephen A . Call Jalen " Gaylen " ???? Lol
‘I’ve never done Queen James. Prince James’😂🤣
Water Pistol Pete....DAMN!!! he got him with that line there...lol
Start at 12:30 and listen for a few seconds. You'll hear Stephen A say that he doesn't do "name-calling", which has been proven to be false on more than one occasion.
I'm here after some delicious "Mama's Cookin'".
Love Jalen’s calm demeanor💙
Lol I remember watching this in my dorm , this episode and the episode with mark Cuban took all credibility away for skip and Steven a
Jalen was talking about name calling in the context of demeaning or destroying someone's character. We play the dozens our whole lives, especially when we were children. As an adult, when you call someone "a name", it's usually in an affectionate manner, jokingly if you will. That's what happened here.
This will never not be one of the most hilarious moments ever and Skip was oblivious as to why
He was a much better host.
Couldn't agree more. At least he was impartial, as far as the who the debaters were and what common sense about the topics were. I missed the days of Cold Pizza and 1st and 10. It's funny how they make a disclaimer that everything was genuine while following it up with commentary that proves it. You'll never anything like this on First Take.
Fuck them for placating to ratings. ESPN used to be the one place I could go to and feel like I wasn't being had, thanks Obama....
Yeah this was Obama's fault...
Hey WTF stephen A!? You called Jaylen, GAYlen? 13:07.
dominguezmarkanthony Yeah he did LMAO
Jalen, mark cuban and Tim Legler have proven on multiple occasions that skip is an absolute joke
Jalen Has The Facts To Back It Up
to talk so much about your HS stats and explain why you scored 1.8 points per game. SMH get out of here.
He called Stephen A. Sherman Helmsley lol!!!
Why would a none player think he knows the game better then a player ??? Two did he say he played jv as a junior???
Jaylen is the best at espn. He destroyed cry baby skip and Steven a. Now first take don’t have him on
😂😂😂facts
SAS is mad a Jalen for calling out skip LMAO
I didn't realize Jalen Rose had so much integrity. Stephen A. Smith, too. He's just louder. Skip is a man-child scorned.
Skip deserves this and more lol.
This shouldn’t be a debate, if Skip can’t take the insults, then don’t throw them out.
I still come to this from time to time to remind me how skip and SAS can’t take what they dish out
He should take a look at why the job he has exists. It's not just positivity all the time. On the show, it says by his name "Jalen Rose NBA Analyst" not "Jalen Rose Public Relations".
Water pistol 🔫 Pete,JUNIOR 🤣🤣🤣
I think the difference here is that what Jalen called Stephen was 1, not a derogatory nickname nor was it something negative like "Jabba the Hut Russell" or what he calls Kwame Brown. And 2, Stephen was on live with Jalen so he could respond
@5:38 😂😂😂 his face says it all
Skip you played jv as a junior in high school & avg 1.4 as senior...
nobody talking bout jalen throwing shade at larry brown talkin bout he stayed on one team for seven years??😂😂
10:46 I’ve been calling SAS Sherman Hemsley (George Jefferson) for years. This is so rewarding.
Stop with the 140 Character excuses: you can type as much as you want or type on a Word Document, screenshot it, and share it as a photo. 😂
This guy skip is really providing context to the fact that he’s bum.
Water Pistol Pete Jr.
i neva seen jalen on first take ever since he went at skp bayless smh
ha i see where you're coming from, but he was basically giving skip a piece of what he's been doing for those 30 years as a columnist/journalist.
Man this was high school.
Jalen got this. Too funny how these “two sports” commentators want to prove their point by speaking out loud or being animated. Keeps going out topic ... this tabloid reporters sheesh !! Lol
13:06 Stephen a Smith says...."you know how many people want your job GAYLEN"
😆
Right,,,,, tryna be slick. Jalen caught that too. But he remained professional and continued to OWN them
Where is Clairvoyant Bill (Bill Simmons) when Jalen needs him LOL
Jalen Rose is a good analyst dude...intelligent brother. He is holding down the brothers for real.
The issue is some analyst cross the line when they question and say something about an athletes integrity, Most of the time Skip and Stephen a Cross the line in insulting athletes like Lebron james for celebrating and looking happy during offseason when he hasn't won a ring. What the hell is that? So they mean LBJ can't be happy because he didn't win a championship ring? They insult other people, yet they WHINE on espn first take when other people fires back at them, and they took it personal
Bottom line is that Skip couldn’t handle it when Jalen gave Skip a bit of his own medicine. Skip tries to justify his name calling and SAS just riding Skip’s jock. Everything else that Skip & SAS said was to make Skip not accountable for his actions.
I like how Skip can sit up there day after day...5 days a week and say whatever he feels about a person, but the minute someone brings out FACTS about his lie on air they make it into a whole 45 minute segment. Funny, he and Stephen A call athletes soft and too sensitive but out of allllllll the athletes they've spoken about badly, how many have responded??? The minute ANYONE says something about them they have to respond right away. So who's really the sensitive ones?
Jalen: alright sherman hemsley..... smirk
HAHHAHAH
And what is Stephen A. Talking about he never let Jalen finished his sentences!
I do too, theyre passionate, skip more often than stephen a but i like them both, jalen rose doesnt seem to debate, mad respect as a player for jalen but he cant debate
Jalen wanted to laugh.
He barely average two points omg
Jalen a real one!
Jalen Rose is the truth
This show proved what a hypocrite Skip is. He can dish it, but not take it. Does ESPN give a full show to everyone he has criticized? Of course not.
Lmaoooo Jalen was not giving AFF about how Skip was trying to justify why he was a scrub
not at all man. I love both of them, especially when they debate. Fun, entertaining, and funny.
It's not professional for Jalen to tackle skips integrity in public. It's a low blow, and Stephen A got hot at him. As for the argument on media criticism, it goes both ways. Sports stars are elevated financially from media popularity. Drama that media creates brings much more money to the table. However, insulting a man's character, work ethic, family, personal life.. Could cross the line only if it's not completely true.
He didn't get mad when Skip answered, he got mad when Smith got involved and tried to talk down to him. So you're saying Jalen should mind his business. Wabout Skip? You say Jalen should respect Skip. What about Skip respecting Jalen? You say Jalen should not take it personal. What about Skip? You sure give Skip alot of passes. Why is that? What is the difference between Jalen and Skip that allows Skip to treat Jalen and any other player like him that way?
One of skips best nicknames and most accurate was gee wiz jay🤣 about jay crawford
you do realize he's an analyst right?
ShaqXDeezil right
Lol if Jalen had just said that...skip would've shut up..and the debate would've ended. Then they would've continued onto new topics. INSTEAD Jalen brings up the media thing..THEN they add the fuel to the flame that is STEPHEN A. SMITH..and somehow the debate rages on for another hour. Lol...classic.
thanks for uploading the whole thing dude
loved watching these "threatened scribes" (they can't stand athletes coming on their turf) try and shut jalen down and fail to do so
all this hate on jalen... all he did was debate... and won... how long has it been since skip played in high school?... get over it and stop cryin
AWH SKIP! poor guy. it's ok, I probably averaged 1.4 MINUTES per game in high school.
We're not here to make friends we're here to tell it like it is
Both those fools making excuses why they were trash at sports
at least today we can say westbrook is superstar
That's sad if you're a junior and you still play JV, but now we know why skip bayless hates derrick rose and russell westbrook because their scoring point guards and skip couldn't be one in high school and he's basically jealous that they are
I have no problem with reporting pr analysts etc. Where we have a problem is the utter LACK OF RESPECT shown to Professional athletes. Truth is, steven a, you want their job. You can't say "thiago splitter" like you could even hang with him on the court. When you don't show the appropriate respect to athletes who've earned their dues being where they are. No one is gonna show you the respect as an analyst either
i agree with stephen a. athletes feel in order to be a analyst you should have playing experience but are quik to take a commentating job with no degree in the the field