Ha Long Bay is Overrated (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- After doing a 1 night 2 day cruise, our conclusion is that Ha Long Bay is overrated. It was one of the most expensive things we did in Vietnam and our least favourite. Yes, the views from the cruise are impressive, but once you get closer to the water when you go kayaking you’ll see the side of Ha Long Bay not shown on social media: all the plastic floating in the water. It is incredibly heartbreaking. We realize that maybe not everyone had this experience. Maybe it was a bad area, maybe it was bad timing, but this type of plastic is coming from somewhere and does not accumulate overnight. We really hope that this will be addressed in the future and that part of the money collected from these expensive cruises will go towards clean-up and education. There is a better area to visit in Vietnam with similar views and no plastic (we actually saw clean up crews helping maintain this area) and we had a much better experience there. Location of this place will be shared in our next post.
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Trash is because of tourist who go there and leave shit everywhere. I was there in 2006, clean as. So sad to see the trash everywhere
😢Imagine not wanting to swim in waters, you had no idea your own people trashed....so sad. Meanwhile Jennie Mae just showed it looking way cleaner than this...smh.
I dont think "overated" is the right word to use. The place is a natural beauty. Trash is a man-made problem. Your comment reflected westerners' mentality.
The tour companies are working on reducing plastic waste. They banned any packaged product sales on board. Unfortunately it is still possible to by products from locals that come by in smaller boats and we have also seen some products that tourists won’t typically buy (like packaging of frozen meals).
We hope the tour operators continue working with the government to reduce the plastic waste and to educate people!
Apparently it depends on the swell. We’ve seen recent posts with little to no trash in the water.
@@Roadmap2Adventures I've been there in November haven't seen any trash
I am Vietnamese, and I feel incredibly disheartened when I witness the destruction of our natural heritage caused by humans. :
Get your lazy ass up and clean it. Nobody wants to do, they just want to complain
Same
It seems like a pretty easy clean up.
It’s actually caused by tourist
@@Kingdom-Of-Cetushere we go again blaming on other people rather than admitting it
I visited today April 21 2024, 3 days tour and I never saw any trash, at all. I was really impressed with how clean it is
I wish she didnt put the title like that. Ha Long Bay is not overrated, It is genuinely beautiful. But the trash is an environmental problem, she should focus on people behavior
We were there March, never saw trash & even water bottle was prohibited to be brought into island. Maybe stricter rules was enforce because of undisciplined tourist? Place is very impressive & worth visiting!
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Same here. I was there in January, no trash whatsoever. It was the highlight of my trip.
@@Madders23 I’d like to go next December, what about the temperature? Was it possible to swim in Genuary or water was too cold?
People like you saying it is overrated will not help the people’s situation seeing that their waters are being polluted already by tourists and then the same tourists call it overrated
It sparks a conversation as we can attest. If everyone filters out experiences like that, that doesn’t help either. While I’m sure that tourism unfortunately continues to the pollution, the majority of the trash we saw was from products that tourists typically would not consume. The tour operators also banned single used plastic on board a while ago, which is a great first step in the right direction.
I was about to say that, trash I've seen is not from tourists
Im a local. And trash are sure not majority from tourists
Not only by tourist but by everybody. In Asia they love plastic and don’t care at all about polluting nature. But originaly we westerns brought the culture of junk and overconsumption. So if people stop visiting may open their eyes!
@@Roadmap2Adventures Halong bay is a part of sea, it is not a lake or pool. So, ties and gryes bring many things to go around. Some day, clean workers need more time to finish.
That is the true reality of almost everywhere in the ocean.
But that is not the problem of Ha Long Bay itself. Why don't we make it clean?
I was there 2 days ago, the water was gorgeous, no trash anywere, we went in to the water we cruise for 3 days 2 nights, 100% recomended
Glad to hear you had a better experience!!
I’m here now it’s perfect. She’s a trash bucket
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Yessss we went a year ago. Water was gorgeous 🤷♀️
Current much?
Its not overrated, its dirty made by tourists. It is always beautiful
It's definitely not by tourists
@@vaga.spiritus by who then?
@@vaga.spiritusshut up no one asked
@@purple8156 mostly everyone else. Other countries have way more tourism but are much cleaner
@@antipro4483 Give me an example? Thailand?
Hey! I have great news! They have been working hard and now there is little to no trash when I revisited my home town(halong)
We are glad to hear that there is an improvement, thanks for sharing! Let’s hope they keep it up and that they start educating tourists and locals on how to take care of the environment!
I thought for a moment that it was gonna be something like an advise or a thought piece about taking care of nature😅 and the importance of tourists behaviour, but no: its just Karens outrage for going to an overrated place ?????? So rude, you had an oportunity to do something important and your ego ruined it. 🤦🏻♀️
americans 🙄😤
Haha basically
Exactly
The sad realaty here is im currently in your contry i been here 5 days planned to stay 45 but im on my way to cambodia or laos i dont really care all i know is i dont feel wellcome here just my money i dont need anybody to go suck my duck here but it be nice not to get stones my way from children and agressive overpriced everything along with insulting and and rude service i have had 2 good incedents here 1 is my current accomedation and secound is a resturant im happy to give bouth high scor and good talk becouse its deserved but seeing comment like this is just as disqusting as visting your nasty behavior towords tourists you are shooting you own foot but letting this happen stop your bs i did not go here to put waste everywhare and i dont see anybody say its tourist or not im sure happen come from bouth parties however do better or go hungry to bed in the upcomming year
@@Tokke83 you don't make sense
I was there in September, it wasn't that bad
Been there in November it wasn't bad
I was there 3 weeks ago, and it wasn't that bad
I went today - they were pretty strict with plastic being taken off the boat. Water seemed very clean actually no sign of any trash
greetings from Vietnam. Although the government always makes efforts to clean up trash, huge numbers of tourists still flock every year. what a tragedy
Agree, I hope they get it under control!
Is still a beautiful place
Totally agree! Let’s hope that people start taking care of the environment more!
The place is not overrated! The place is magnificent if it wasn't for bad human behavior. Maybe a better message to share is to ask the tourists and the authorities to better take care of these beautiful places rather than just recommend tourists to go to another place to pollute.
Nah. I almost didn’t go to Halong Bay because of content like this but I’m so glad I did. I was there last week and it is stunning. Saw hardly any rubbish and the scenery is just breathtaking - the small amounts of floating rubbish just can’t take that away, and I didn’t see more than in European rivers (not that there should be any, of course!)
Yes I was these last week and it was breathtaking. This video is rubbish
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Man, as a Vietnamese girl that’s only been to Vietnam once, this just makes me so sad that people do this…
I'm sure of one thing that it's the garbage left by tourists, I went here in March and it's not like that, the garbage situation only happens when the tourist season is too crowded and the tourists don't mean it. awake
Unfortunately I believe this is not the case. We saw a lot of garbage from products tourists typically don’t buy. It’s important for tourists and locals to take more care of the environment!
I’m glad that to hear that the government and the tour operators are working on it! They have apparently banned all single used plastic sale on board, but unfortunately locals are still selling products to tourists from small boats…
@@Roadmap2AdventuresHow did you know they're "products tourists typically don't buy?"
@@sequoians We saw a lot of frozen meal packaging in the water and on the shore line.
Not my experience! I just went on a cruise and got off yesterday. Single use plastic is banned from the ship and on the caves. It was very clean. I imagine the summer season must be a lot worst but they’re trying to clean up the area
We were there in April and the garbage situation was horrible. We are so happy to hear they are making efforts to clean up the area. We hope they are able to keep it that way. Thank you for sharing your more recent experience.
I’m nah Trang I was down a small lane and an old lady literally dumped her entire trash can into the beach and walked back upstairs…. The main trash for collection was about 20 meters away. Later that afternoon, we found the trash in the beach waves amongst swimmers
Yes it’s true it’s not just here it’s many tourist destinations now becoming overrun with plastic waste
I know, really sad! Apparently the government is finally taking action. We've heard there was a big clean up operation recently. I hope it stays clean!
Aw that's sad. We hope Vietnamese government take care of this, since this is one of their tourise attractions.
Like what they did in PH, they shutdown boracay for months to restore
This is so true, i went for ha long bay cruise last week, and we saw our cruise ship put all the garbage into the sea. We complained about that to the management, they were aware about the situation. They just said sorry about the situation. Really sad about the behaviors of these cruise ships.
Ban the cruise ships. I believe that’s true. Most of the trash, 99% comes from the local people
They where probably in the rain season when the trash wash out to the shores.
We were there during dry season. It also doesn’t matter where the trash is coming from. It’s important for people to learn that this is an ongoing issue. I’m glad that the government and tour operators are apparently working on it.
Overrated? But if it were to be clean again youd be loving it lol kind of a silly mentality
bro are you dumn😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
@@Lilquan2004kid you can't even spell right 😂
@@thewhutnow5795 are people not allowed to have mistakes nerd I literally miss and added a N because if you can see there right by each other and i guess I clicked it while typing
@@thewhutnow5795 calling me a kid I'm old enough to be your dad boy I'm turning 60 in two days
@@Lilquan2004nearly 60 year old acting like a 6 year old is humiliating hahhaha
If the locals and authorities in Ha Long Bay don't want to protect it then they deserve not to have any tourists coming.
“In our next post” 😂
It's Cat Ba
I was there last week and everything was clean and looked good. We did kayak in a beautiful place and swam in the water
This is fake. Haloing bay is one of the prettiest and clean places ever in 2024. Must visit for the tourists at least once. I went recently and would love to go back. It had breath taking views. Iaslo went kayaking and the water was clearly not like this. I don’t see one plastic in the water
i went last week, i saw cruise ship worker put all the garbage into the sea.
Same as my experience and I came back a week ago
It's because you had a cheap tour. I went on more expensive tours and went to pristine waters while kayaking and swimming in Ha Long. No trash in sight
There are many tour operators you can book your tour with. All 2 day/1 night tours go to the same area no matter the cost of the tour. We went with an operator in the higher price segment.
Totally agree💯💯💯💯💯
Let me get it right, cheap or expensive tour should be the same right? Poor people cannot get beautiful scenery but rich can do that?
Well, that's due to some of the tourist went there threw stuff into the water, and probably some of our people. But i think you should visit Ha Long Bay once more time, trust me, it will be worth . I went there and yes, the water was clean
(I'm Vietnamese btw )
This reminds me of the US in the 60s and 70s where consciousness of not littering was not in the minds of the people. It takes generations of conditioning that people learn, this is not the case in Vietnam or china and many other countries as striviing economies to implement a good functioning wasteremoval and recycling system that works and a consciousness for a clean environment.
I’m going to Vietnam in July. I’m already going to Ninh Binh (I watched your subsequent video). Is there another day trip you’d recommend from Hanoi?
Hi Cody! How long are you going to Vietnam for? Are you visiting just northern Vietnam or planning to travel north to south? From Hanoi we also recommend doing the 3 day Ha Giang motorbike loop if you have time. The views are amazing! We did an easy rider tour with Cheers Hostel which includes transportation from Hanoi. We’ll be posting more videos from Vietnam in the next few weeks so stay tuned for more. 😃
@@Roadmap2Adventures I’m going for three weeks and I’m going from south to north actually. That loop looks unreal. I’m planning on doing Sapa. Where does the loop rank on your top things to do in Vietnam? Is it worth shuffling things around for?
@@cody_malloy For us the loop ranks at the top of the list of things to do in Vietnam. We were in Vietnam for 4 weeks and this loop was a highlight of our trip. Many people we met on the tour said the same thing. We did not go to Sapa so we can’t compare but we did have friends who did both and they ranked Ha Giang loop higher. If it’s possible to fit it into your itinerary we highly recommend it! We have full length videos of Day 1 and Day 2 of the loop posted on our channel if you want to see more of the experience.
I just am in Halong Bay Right now it’s completely clean
Yes water is not good for swim but there is no plastic and garbage right now
It's not overrated. The cruises are overrated! There are a lot of other places to check out in Ha Long Bay!
We would definitely go back if there is a local experience.
Thanks for making valuable information ❤
Thank you for sharing and providing your honest opinion
Even da Nang after the weekend Vietnamese tourists have visited, trash all over the beach. Plastic cups, cigarette butts, trash. I live here. It's disgusting. Stop ruining your country. Change your thinking.. Young people are doing the right thing, I've seen them on the beach picking up the trash
The young educated people will change and shape Vietnam. I'm so humbled by them. The ones who litter, shame on you. Learn to respect your country. Show respect to others who use it too.
I was there last week... there was very little rubbish floating around so.... from looking at your video, they have done very well to clean up most of the plastic rubbish. We totally loved it! Sang bad karaoke but we had so much fun. I've taken videos of the bay and there is hardly any rubbish. Halong Bay is definitely worth visiting, we loved it!
I went to Halong bay on a little cruise just like that back in 2018, the water was so blue and clear, seeing this is so sad 😞
This is not the true reality of Ha Long Bay but the true reality of the qualities of tourists.
Thanks for making this video. It's honest, no AI or clickbait fantasy and straight forward.
I was in Ha Long Bay just a couple years ago and I didn't see any trash the whole time.
Ha long bay is definitely overrated. Guilin/Yangshuo has similar but better landscape, plus even better experience. There are cruise and bamboo rafting. (Plus no garbage floating on water.)
Great to know! Thanks for sharing.
Nice view and place..
I just did Halong bay cruise 3 days back...there is not even a single plastic bottle or garbage anywhere.Dont give wrong information to public.
THANX FOR SHARING REALITY
Jennie Mae just did a video on her channel talking about this place, while visiting. She didn't show none of this!!! I still felt bad for them families having to live on the waters. And then what about when the weather is bad ...?! Jesus bless these people with whatever that's needed to survive better out there or better resources to just come out to fish, but not have to live out there!🙏🏽🙏🏽🥺😢😢😢😢
Thank you for giving us your honest opinion. There are places that are overrated and overhyped by vloggers and I'm glad you are being honest and one of these over hypers 😀😎
I went there in 2020. I went on a cruise and kayaked as well but I didn't see plastic in the water. It's an amazing place and if it is getting trashed I hope the Vietnamese authorities do something about it.
It’s true been there last week, the view is nice the experience is 30 plus ships embark down a stretch of river water route and run you through a stereo typical routine. First stop kayak or row boot excursion then back to ship food ( my son got food poisoning from small pieces of thawed frozen pizza served with a couple of French fries on a pineapple. Looked good but as vegetarian dish ?)
Then farther down the route overnight net day back to start. The water and shores has plastic waste floating around everywhere. We had a time slot for swimming but I rejected the water was not very clean.
The real trash are the tourists who complain about the place...
Exactly.
Shes complaining about the pollution in the water, reject
I knew it, there's always a part 2. Btw, thank you for being honest. I completely overlooked this problem watching all the other vlogs about how beautiful some places are. And I know, I'd be super dissapointed if I went to these places, expecting paradise, and then finding all the trash.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't know if it's bc of your video, but we just went to Halong Bay yesterday, and we were told we weren't allowed to bring single-use plastic bottles to the area. I think it must be greatly cleaned up since your video bc I didn't notice much trash in the water.
i was there 5 month ago, its clean and beautiful, must be just your luck
How is this place overrated? You’re only going into the depths of the trash. So every place you go to that has trash is overrated? Ha long bay is beautiful besides the trash and theres more to it. Some people even put trash in there that is not tourists but i bet 1/4 miles to 2/4 of the trash is by tourists. Please explain to me why you think it’s overrated, cause if it’s only trash, I can’t agree with you.
Tourist is what ruining beautiful places like this
It’s not only the tourists. We’ve seen many products in the ocean that tourists typically don’t buy. Lucky the Vietnamese government is behind it. They just started a big clean up campaign. Hopefully they can get it under control.
@@Roadmap2Adventures that’s not true. I was in Hanoi couple weeks ago. The locals told me Halong Bay is only for tourist. The locals rarely go to places like that.
“This place is filthy because of people like me, so try this other place quickly before people like me ruin that too”
Not so sure what you’re trying to say… not all travellers are trashing the environment, and certainly not all the trash we saw was from tourists (we saw quite a bit of frozen meal packages).
Tourists don't leave such trash behind. On the contrary, all over South East Asia, the Caribbean and even the Mediterranean, it's often the tourists who organize clean-up drives of local beaches and invariably the locals who pollute the environment. Trying to claim the opposite is both deeply dishonest and counterproductive for the countries themselves, as they'll only lose tourists and the income tourism generates.
All of the countries of Asia need to launch long-term public education campaigns to teach their populations NOT to litter and how to keep their own environment clean and tidy.
When I went it was clean and beautiful
I was there in June. Didn’t see that much trash even kayaking around. It was the most beautiful place I ever visited.
"Ha Long" means "take good care" in Philippines Ilonggo dialect...🤗
No one cares and asked about your country
Oh In Vietnamese, it means the dragon landing :)
I was there a couple of years ago and it was not like this. That's so sad. We loved Ha Long Bay, it was beautiful when we went.
What a shame. I was there in 2009, it was pure and beautiful
Definitely not what I have witnessed! I was there a week ago, the water was calm and clean, i didnt see a single plastic, the beach was clean, to be able to kayak in Halong bay was such a blessing. Highly recommended!
I appreciate honesty! 💪🏼
Actually the mere fact of overrated doesn't need an explanation. The mere fact that the video proved how dirty it was. When you actually saw the place. It's a wake.up call for both tourist and locals to be aware of not throwing trashes everywhere. And protect their tourist attraction
I hope we helped raising awareness with this video!
Sometimes it’s clean, sometimes it’s trashy. It seems like it depends on the current and season. Like after a storm, trashes are carried and washed up on the shore from somewhere else.
Lan Ha bay is less polluted. There is still somw trash but many places are fine for swimming.
Thanks for review 🇧🇩
EverywhereEE. OverateDD. HeartbreakinGG. The slur at the end of every word...
LMAOOOOO
Oh dear, I am going here again soon. Was last here nearly 10 years ago and it was so beautiful.
Like Koh phi phi in Thailand in the 20 years between trips there it went from untouched to overcrowded. Such a shame we have to destroy everything
Piss poor government neglecting the environment.
Trash in the ocean is everybody fault and responsibility. Blaming tourists is about as useful as blaming those who use the area and dont clean up. Pollution is every humans fault and responsibility. If everybody does better then we all do better! and to the people who made this video, instead of pointing fingers why did you not go kayak and clean up at the same time. Be the change you want to see in this video.
Easier said than done. We didn’t realize how bad it is when we got into the kayak and with very limited time we were not able to take action. It’s better taking a video than being silent and act like nothing is wrong.
i visited Lan Ha Bay, it was peaceful and clean :D
Glad to hear you had a better experience!
@@Roadmap2Adventures Let me share with you my Lan Ha Bay journey in this video :D
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Last weekend I hve experience this superb experience that was
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So sad. The mekong delta too has rubbish coming to borneo too !
Which we’ll share in our next post 😂😂😂😂
😢 This honestly made me cry a little. Why is no one maintaining it clean?! 😞
Ha Long Bay is beautiful and has a deep historical significance to Vietnam. It isn't overrated, but it is being disrespected and trashed by tourism and perhaps even locals.
Before she said it.
I was going to say there are soooo much trash.
We went there many years ago and it was clean. Sad to see the trash. Hope the authorities put in more effort to highlight the situation to visitors and clean it up. The natural beauty is just so beautiful and will be such a waste to let the litter mar its beauty.
Ninh Binh is cleaner cheaper
We loved Ninh Binh!
I totally can’t relate to this experience. I was there and I had a wonderful experience! It was beautiful and clean
This is so sad. I heard that the trash wasnt actually from the tourists but from the fishermen who came back to live there. But the gov is working on it so I went there summer 2023 and I think the situation is getting better.
We have heard that too! Let's hope that it gets better.
To be in their country and calling HLB overrated is a low blow for some views and “spark” comments.
thats crazy, I went in September and didn't see the garbage
Glad you had a better experience! We heard they had a big clean up operation recently.
Went to Vietnam few years back and everything is thrown in the sea, shame it’s a great place but it’s just so dirty everywhere
How about saying you'd like to start something to clean this place up instead of saying it's overrated
I am right now visiting vietnam ,I visited ha long bay and there was no trash it was clean (I am from Pakistan btw)
And it is not overrated
I’m in Vietnam for 30 days and I can tell the whole country is overrated and full of trash,I just finished 3000km road trip with scooter.Everything dirty,people don’t respect traffic lights,10 years old kids riding scooters etc…
And if you want good quality food,it’s hard to get it and once you find good quality food-you will pay more than in Norway where I live…and we all know Norway is one of the most expensive countries in EU.
Danang and Vinh were a bit better,but still far away from being developed.
Thanks for being honest
Get out
What is the better place called?
We've made an entire short about it. Check it out!
OMG I can't believe what I'm seeing. They should create a clean up tour where you can travel and help clean that up. I hope they start putting travelers in jail for this shit.
Also clean it up
Waiting for yr next post
I was there last year and saw no rubbish at all
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100%. Was there for a 2 night cruise last week and there was a lot of trash in the water. Both kayaking beach/swimming trips we did everyone just spent time picking up litter from the beach and water. You wouldn’t swim in the water for the litter and also all the oil/fuel on the surface from little boats. Rubbish is from locals and fisherman eg polystyrene containers degrading, as well as just being sea debris.
tourists find a place, tourists come, tourists leave trash, tourists leave.