if u have any selfrespect u let them have opener its just how it is. they could wait like 1 min and than randomly open on you to get it, thats just dumb so u give em the opener.
Fine, maybe they're not bad, but they made a mistake. Xar forgot his mana gem in the second match. He doesn't get to say "oops I forgot my mana ruby, doesn't count." Mistakes are mistakes. If you get caught out of stealth, that's your mistake, you take the L and you pay up.
@apegodx how is it not fair to catch stealthies using r1 arcane explosion? Your litterally trading mana for the chance to avoid being opened on. Pots aren't fair and square- crying about not getting to get opener when you got caught by arcan explosion is pathetic imo.
This used to be standard on my server back in the day, just like the no pot rule. You'd let stealthies get the opener always, I was surprised the chat blew up like it did honestly.
Watched this live yesterday, still watched the whole video. Definitely the most fun way to watch you farm for epic mount. I wonder how the duels would have looked if you did them AFTER getting like 4 upgrades yesterday :D
I like vanilla pvp cause as a viewer you can easily follow along with what skills are being used, etc. Retail you have no idea whos doing what, its like a lightshow or fireworks or something.
Back in the day our guildies who knew each other would loan one another gold to afford epic riding. It let you save time/ farm faster and you could pay them back in a week or two.
You can also OOM the druid by using a R1 frostbolt to get them to shapeshift the slow off and then use a max rank frostbolt when safe to do so I do that on Turtle WoW
Man, this brings back so many memories of standing outside Ironforge dueling waiting for dungeons or raids. I remember clutching out a win against another paladin wearing almost full set Judgement and Hammer of Woe. I had mostly PVP blues and Icebarbed Spear. It was all in good fun though. Good times.
That druid crying over not getting opener is the second most stupid thing I've seen in a long time.. the stupidest thing is the amount of people in chat agreeing with it. What a bunch of tools.
Yeah wtf can someone explain the mental gymnastics of that? is like saying " you don't deserve to win because you did not gave me a advantage first" ???????
yeah wow its super hard to aoe someone out in a duel .. yea, its better to wait 1-2 min in stealth to get the opener in a duel .. holy u guys are dumb.
@@arthas236 its kinda weird. but.... for people who duel a ton.... its common to give stealth openers. To us normies it may not make sense. But once you do 100s of duels you start to realize you saving time by just letting stealthers have openers
Ahh yes “stealthies should get their opener on non stealthies” if you get a rogue out of stealth in arenas you should stop playing and let him re-stealth
@@crazehsmile so u think its better for anyone if the stealth class waits 2 min to start to get a save opener cuz the mage alrdy kinda felt asleep ? yeah
If you have complain about not getting opener out of stealth when getting fairly knocked out. You probably ask for extra home work at the end of class to. He seems fun.
To anyone saying u can't trade this isn't trading it's staking with trading being the only way to receive stake winnings unlike say runescape which.has a duel arena where you can stake and at the end the gold/items get auto traded without you actually trading eachother
Never understood why stealthers think they're entitled to getting the opener in a duel. If you get caught that's your fault. Back in real vanilla getting the opener wasn't even a thing.
Poor Xar didn’t play Classic PvP in quite some time. He threw at least 2 games he could’ve maybe even should’ve won. But the first duell against the feral is 100% a win. It sucks ass if you can’t open as stealther or can’t charge as Warrior but that’s on you. You need the skill to secure your opener. And the last duell against the mage was rough. Unlucky to get that scorch and fireblast crit for half of Xars HP. If we would’ve spammed arcane explosion there he might have won that.
Played Vanilla back in the day raided AQ40 and Naxx and never heard of giving stealth players free hit as "fair". Fair is allowing them to stealth and relocate so you don't know where they are. If you're so predictable you get AOE'd out of stealth that's your problem
Yeah but this is such a 1 sided match up if the hunter doesn't have the ability to use fap or has access to all proper trinkets/gadgets. Nova hunter take 3 steps back and free cast on him lol.
As the 100th rogue player on this comment section. You do not get a free opener… the only cheese thing is ofc right as you stealth they aoe you out… but guess what? It’s the class you play - if I don’t get an opener I get to complain every time now? I guess when I duel other classes I gotta let them know about this rule! Like world PvP how do I get to 1v1 with alliance without other people cutting in? Be a streamer? Or just simply PLAY THE F**KING GAME. Complaining about not getting an opener is more cringe than someone opening up on me. It’s like a rogue in combat/assas vs a sub rogue… I guess you have to let the sub rogue open bc they have the greater stealth? People amaze me that a duel just requires anything you have to use at your disposal besides Worldbuffs or other peoples buffs (priests/war). Like an alchemist can use faps but a non alch cant? I mean I get that but now we are literally talking about CLASS SKILLS. Someone can use there skill to bring you out - doesn’t matter on how much time or mana or whatever is wasted. I’ve seen duels go for seconds-minutes to a good time bc of stealth- restealth and outplays. I’m a Pshero fanboy over Xaryu but Xar definitely won that first duel. F that Druid, making up weird a** rules. Edit: had to change spelling bc I’m an idiot.
@@jsprunger6246 yeah fair they were definitely not good but its still not a good matchup for the hunter unless they start 40 yards away which xaryu wouldn't let happen
I mean I guess these guys thought he was lying when he happens to slip in the fact that he was rank 1 mage every few mins. The first guy is a loser, if he wanted the opener he should have clearly stated it beforehand not guilt-tripped him after he got bopped
even if that embarrassment of a player got the opener, Ice Block would win you the duel every time. should’ve waited those 3 mins since they wanted to cry about their opener.
Yah bro in retail vanilla back in the day no stealthy bitched about another class not giving them the opener.. never was a thing then so I dont know when the fuck everyone decided it was proper etiquette. It was mainly no world buffs,no potting and no long cds lile recklessness etc....
Letting the Stealth player get the opener in a duel is because they are balanced around getting said opener, its not like an arena, also its much smaller and easier to aoe them out in a duel. It used to be common practice to let the rogue open first in duels like this, but ofc in arena if you just catch them out (which i loved to do in wotlk on me destro lock with shadowfury i think it was called) and get an easy win if played correctly. letting them open actually makes it a challenging fight. this is given everyone has all cds.
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That guy scammed you. You dont owe a stealth character their opener lmao
In some dueling leagues it is a common rule
if u have any selfrespect u let them have opener its just how it is. they could wait like 1 min and than randomly open on you to get it, thats just dumb so u give em the opener.
Agreed. If a stealther is too bad to catch the opener, that's on them. Should have been more careful and waited.
@@carm3154 that has nothing to do with beeing bad or good lol.
Fine, maybe they're not bad, but they made a mistake. Xar forgot his mana gem in the second match. He doesn't get to say "oops I forgot my mana ruby, doesn't count." Mistakes are mistakes. If you get caught out of stealth, that's your mistake, you take the L and you pay up.
That first guy is such a loser for taking your gold after losing fair and square 😂
he didnt lose fair and square though
@@nick1550dkhe did lose fair and square first round not car’s fault dude was shit and couldn’t pop his opener seems like a skill issue 🤷🏻♂️
@apegodx how is it not fair to catch stealthies using r1 arcane explosion? Your litterally trading mana for the chance to avoid being opened on. Pots aren't fair and square- crying about not getting to get opener when you got caught by arcan explosion is pathetic imo.
Yeah its a skill issue i never expect to get a opener
@@nick1550dk Are you on crack.
As a rogue, no one has ever just stood there and let me get opener. You won that first duel.
This used to be standard on my server back in the day, just like the no pot rule. You'd let stealthies get the opener always, I was surprised the chat blew up like it did honestly.
@@nickretrae2487 i kind of recall this, because well, they are balanced around getting the opener.
this is/was the reasoning i believe.
Frost mages are balanced around getting frost bolts off the stealthie should open then allow the mage to hit him with frost bolt so he can kite
@@nickretrae2487 yep thats defo the rules
@@nickretrae2487 A good stealthy will get the opener himself, it's all a mind game.
First win you 100% deserved it
Yeah, 100%. The guy crying about "You didn't let me get the opener >:C" was absolutely pathetic.
Agree… then gets opened on while sat down in the 2nd 🤣
@@Earisu11 You don't get auto crits from sitting in PvP, only works on PvE mobs.
@@mcsendit3380 - are you sure dude?
@@mcsendit3380 not true
Watched this live yesterday, still watched the whole video. Definitely the most fun way to watch you farm for epic mount. I wonder how the duels would have looked if you did them AFTER getting like 4 upgrades yesterday :D
I like vanilla pvp cause as a viewer you can easily follow along with what skills are being used, etc. Retail you have no idea whos doing what, its like a lightshow or fireworks or something.
Back in the day our guildies who knew each other would loan one another gold to afford epic riding. It let you save time/ farm faster and you could pay them back in a week or two.
You can also OOM the druid by using a R1 frostbolt to get them to shapeshift the slow off and then use a max rank frostbolt when safe to do so I do that on Turtle WoW
I love you man! you put smile to my face every time i watch your videos! keep it up!
It's a pain to see hunters not kiting and and using viper sting in those duels
Yeah, odd to see them go for fd trap as their opener in melee range when they know they have a huge dead zone to abuse
I guess leveling without dying doesn't automatically give you pvp knowledge and skills
Average classic player mechanics tbh
@@sbsftw4232 It dsnt give you mechanical or class skills really.
THE LOOK AROUND AFTER 3 shotting the hunter HAHHAHAHA
Man, this brings back so many memories of standing outside Ironforge dueling waiting for dungeons or raids. I remember clutching out a win against another paladin wearing almost full set Judgement and Hammer of Woe. I had mostly PVP blues and Icebarbed Spear. It was all in good fun though. Good times.
I love the positive vibes and good energy you bring to wow and our community
i laughed so hard when u ask chat at 3:08 if u should wait 3 mins or not. And the whole chat says wait and u ignore them cuse u are hyped xD
That druid crying over not getting opener is the second most stupid thing I've seen in a long time.. the stupidest thing is the amount of people in chat agreeing with it. What a bunch of tools.
Dude, that first druid duel was so clean holy crap
Xaryu you're doing amazing content in the HC community, loving this new trend of yours! Keep it up! :)
i just checked the hc rules and it says no trading of any kind ... hows this work?
Content so good, I’ll watch it live then rewatch it on RUclips!
That hunter you dueled at the end is the guy who griefed Hozi.
If you're caught in an AoE you don't deserve the opener.
Yeah wtf can someone explain the mental gymnastics of that? is like saying " you don't deserve to win because you did not gave me a advantage first" ???????
yeah wow its super hard to aoe someone out in a duel .. yea, its better to wait 1-2 min in stealth to get the opener in a duel .. holy u guys are dumb.
@@arthas236 its kinda weird. but.... for people who duel a ton.... its common to give stealth openers. To us normies it may not make sense. But once you do 100s of duels you start to realize you saving time by just letting stealthers have openers
You fcking win even without openers that the rule...
@@futurefox635 thank you i was losing hope in humanity.
only reason I started watching you. mages skills. keep it up.
Way too nice to that druid. Basically handed him the second duel for his ego.
Bro that first duel made me laugh so hard.
"you cant pot you cant world buff thats cheeeese boys" litterly one sec later tries to fireblast him before he stealths 😅
The druid ravaged when Xaryu was sitting in 2nd duel, not letting him prepare. How is that fair
Nice ! Feels like ppl never learn classic ! Would’ve been interesting to see you duel a rogue
Why did the hunter scatter shot and gone melee ?
What server is this and is it hardcore?
ANDDD the Druid did the lil strafe at the end of the 2nd gtfooh. They should be embarrassed 😂
Side note thanks for the zanz buff today. 🤙
hi what is this server where people are not full end game gear and poeple still leveling ?
This brings back some old sodapoppin vibe
why is pot not allowed but engi is ok in dueling rules?
Music made me so nostalgic man god 😢
Ahh yes “stealthies should get their opener on non stealthies” if you get a rogue out of stealth in arenas you should stop playing and let him re-stealth
i cant belive all this dumb comments in here.
@@lolleonlolable I can't believe the dumb comments thinking stealthies deserve to get a free hit lmao
@@crazehsmile its not about deserving
@@crazehsmile so u think its better for anyone if the stealth class waits 2 min to start to get a save opener cuz the mage alrdy kinda felt asleep ? yeah
its not a fucking chess game.. if you don't get your opener its a skill issue.
100% deserved that first win, druid seems like a sore loser
Which is more popular? Ironforge or StormWind?
i feel like going to where someone stealthed .5 seconds ago and pulling them out is kinda wack but he still shoulda paid
bro what server is this
3:32 arcane explosion instead of scorch and he dies, big choke by xaryu
If you have complain about not getting opener out of stealth when getting fairly knocked out. You probably ask for extra home work at the end of class to. He seems fun.
Damn the Xar is broke af Man’s trynna get that epic mount at all costs 💰😂😂
So you have to let druids attack first while you just stand there?
Name of the classic server pls
So easy to deadzone a hunter in vanilla as a mage and burst them down quickly
You clearly don't know what BM early game is, or fresh 60 mages with no hp/gear for that matter
@@newportnelson BM is not the raid spec so they aren't going to be BM and even if they were it is only the pet who is CC immune in classic
To anyone saying u can't trade this isn't trading it's staking with trading being the only way to receive stake winnings unlike say runescape which.has a duel arena where you can stake and at the end the gold/items get auto traded without you actually trading eachother
LOL didnt know you were supposed to let people open on you in a duel. That makes no sense
Druid complains he doesn’t get opener. Gets a reduel, proceeds to open while you are sitting (100% crit). Cheesy..
Never understood why stealthers think they're entitled to getting the opener in a duel. If you get caught that's your fault. Back in real vanilla getting the opener wasn't even a thing.
druid started when u we're seated 100% crit lol gg's
So I thought you couldnt trade in hardcore. Do the rules change at 60?
Give. Stealths. The. Opener. 👏🏽👏🏽
"better coc wins" - lmao
Bruh that first duel omggg
Health pot is a no go in duels
doesnt duels sometimes bug and you die after :P? im pretty sure i have seen that before in classic
pretty soon he will have nobody left to duel because they dont want to delete gold.
Xar wtf was that second duel lmao
Druid second duel - opened when you were sitting. CHEESE.
Bro how did he win fair and square in the second game. You allowing him to open oiant "fair" 😂😂😂
Owing an opener? The fuck its a duel
Poor Xar didn’t play Classic PvP in quite some time. He threw at least 2 games he could’ve maybe even should’ve won. But the first duell against the feral is 100% a win. It sucks ass if you can’t open as stealther or can’t charge as Warrior but that’s on you. You need the skill to secure your opener. And the last duell against the mage was rough. Unlucky to get that scorch and fireblast crit for half of Xars HP. If we would’ve spammed arcane explosion there he might have won that.
how does xar make his map not fullscreen?
Leatrix Map addon
that Horde rogue just asking for it.
Played Vanilla back in the day raided AQ40 and Naxx and never heard of giving stealth players free hit as "fair". Fair is allowing them to stealth and relocate so you don't know where they are. If you're so predictable you get AOE'd out of stealth that's your problem
Wow Paide actually took that gold... what a chump.
Appealed his way to 60
That blink on the fear is actually incredible. You don't see that often.
P.S. No, I don't believe you if you write below that you do it all the time.
Paide what a baby, real infant
Hunters kinda need engineering to be able to duel like that imo
dueling w/o engineering or pvp in general is a disadvantage in classic
Yeah but this is such a 1 sided match up if the hunter doesn't have the ability to use fap or has access to all proper trinkets/gadgets. Nova hunter take 3 steps back and free cast on him lol.
@@DannyDecksLoR Yup.
hardcore or not, it still is classic, the hype's gonna be gone soon enough..
Druid is 100% gonna see all of this.. smh that guy is ego child
Wish i get to 60 to duel you 😀 back in the day i was 24/7 dueling ppl outside cities
After dragonflight looks like 2 buttons game
Hey Xar i realised when watching this that you should've checked to see if they have hardcore
As a rogue main, I want to deserve my opener. This my my preference
That scam from the feral Xar....why 😅
First druid duel you should have let him open, 2nd duel you made a massive mistake by sitting for his opener.
omg the dueling
As the 100th rogue player on this comment section. You do not get a free opener… the only cheese thing is ofc right as you stealth they aoe you out… but guess what? It’s the class you play - if I don’t get an opener I get to complain every time now? I guess when I duel other classes I gotta let them know about this rule! Like world PvP how do I get to 1v1 with alliance without other people cutting in? Be a streamer? Or just simply PLAY THE F**KING GAME. Complaining about not getting an opener is more cringe than someone opening up on me.
It’s like a rogue in combat/assas vs a sub rogue… I guess you have to let the sub rogue open bc they have the greater stealth? People amaze me that a duel just requires anything you have to use at your disposal besides Worldbuffs or other peoples buffs (priests/war).
Like an alchemist can use faps but a non alch cant? I mean I get that but now we are literally talking about CLASS SKILLS. Someone can use there skill to bring you out - doesn’t matter on how much time or mana or whatever is wasted. I’ve seen duels go for seconds-minutes to a good time bc of stealth- restealth and outplays.
I’m a Pshero fanboy over Xaryu but Xar definitely won that first duel. F that Druid, making up weird a** rules.
Edit: had to change spelling bc I’m an idiot.
Stealthie should’ve played better than getting AOE’d outa stealth 😂
You’re being way to generous giving him gold after being scammed
Frost mage 😂😂😂 my ret would smash before you could even cast mirror image 😂😂😂
Why tf give stealth class opener wtf? 😂
yo thanks for the 50g i'm definitely not selling it. :)
kind of thought not letting them get opener is cheese :P wasnt there a whole classic tournament based around that rule as well?
The Druid was just a soon he got beaten you should never give a stealth a chance
That druid should delete his character he was so bad lmao
These hunters never pvped in their lives
What can they do if they don't have a pvp trinket and the mage novas them?
@@DannyDecksLoR Both hunters scatter shot into nothing which is already a clear sign
@@DannyDecksLoR It's not the fact that they lost but the way they lost
@@jsprunger6246 yeah fair they were definitely not good but its still not a good matchup for the hunter unless they start 40 yards away which xaryu wouldn't let happen
love to see your duels. That druid did u dirty tho.
honga honga honga honga gorilla brain honga
how say on my hood "aracha"
Dont do these classic clickers like that Xar 🤣
I mean I guess these guys thought he was lying when he happens to slip in the fact that he was rank 1 mage every few mins. The first guy is a loser, if he wanted the opener he should have clearly stated it beforehand not guilt-tripped him after he got bopped
even if that embarrassment of a player got the opener, Ice Block would win you the duel every time. should’ve waited those 3 mins since they wanted to cry about their opener.
Yah bro in retail vanilla back in the day no stealthy bitched about another class not giving them the opener.. never was a thing then so I dont know when the fuck everyone decided it was proper etiquette.
It was mainly no world buffs,no potting and no long cds lile recklessness etc....
Should've best out of 3'd the druid.
the us gov't doest vet ppl comin arcoss the open southern border, but hardcore guilds vet
First duel should have just been 0 gold given. 2nd duel should have just been to see if he owed you 0 gold or 50 gold.
Letting the Stealth player get the opener in a duel is because they are balanced around getting said opener, its not like an arena, also its much smaller and easier to aoe them out in a duel. It used to be common practice to let the rogue open first in duels like this, but ofc in arena if you just catch them out (which i loved to do in wotlk on me destro lock with shadowfury i think it was called) and get an easy win if played correctly. letting them open actually makes it a challenging fight. this is given everyone has all cds.
We love a good free buff