ARE YOU SPENDING TOO MUCH ON CLOTHING?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In this video your host discusses the impact of dressing well, in balance with how much you spend to achieve your desired outcomes.
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Always buy top quality items. Never pay retail prices. Be prudent. Never buy on impulse. Keep an eye out for sales.
Cheers.
Absolutely
Ash, in the classic menswear sphere you are easily the most articulate and well spoken.
Man, for me, Charles was always one of the best
well dressed man in all
uk and even in most of
west countries. He is
simply outstanding in
elegance and quality.
At one time, the Italians said he was the best dressed man in the world. ... I'm glad my tax contribution was appreciated by Italian style watchers lol
They key is to stop at some point, once you have ticked the boxes you must reach a point where your next expenditure is limited to replacement and care. Quality is always worth spending on but it still comes back to cost per wear, I have expensive shoes but I have worn them almost daily for 25 years. Upfront expenses now a bargain.
I'd go as far as keeping a spreadsheet of your wardrobe, so you're keeping track and see what you have.
Our friend here has opposite priorities from me: He worries his suiting will get in the way of his domestic life. I worry a domestic life would get in the way of my suiting!
My father at just shy of 80 years old passed away and always bought nice clothes for himself. For example: He never wore jeans and never owned chinos. He never shopped at high street general mens clothiers but shopped at boutique shops. He did this all his life and I remember going with him one day when he bought a pair of leather ankle height boots that cost $215 (in the 70s). When he passed away, my mom attended to his belongings and he had several closets in the home beyond his standard closet. In them she found new clothes with the price tags on them (not worn).
I watched my mom become very bitter because knowing that she had to survive on what was saved (and what was not) she saw all these clothes as excess and nothing more. In one week she boxed everything up and donated it to charity (including his luxury car) as she did not want to see it and said it made he sick to the stomach. The hurt was so strong that she never asked her sons if they wanted anything from his estate. They were married for over 50 years and she felt betrayed.
What a terribly sad tale. To spend money on oneself is laudable from time to time. To spend money on oneself at the neglect of others, especially ones family dependents, seems downright selfish and cruel. At least the clothes were of help to others less fortunate.
@@billyo54 Mind you, my mother never went without and if she wanted a new car for herself or fur coat she got it however, it goes back to the topic for today: Is there a point where one can spend too much on clothing for oneself?
As a child when my father bought those beautiful leather boots in the 70s, those same shoes would cost approximately $1,100 in today's dollars. That seems excessive as I am not sure how many people buy shoes at those prices today.
As an aside, my dad called the boots 'car shoes' as they were shoes he would wear to a venue but would never walk in them on the streets. Bless him . LOL
Thanks for sharing
@chris fair to say that your mom was bothered most by the items your dad never wore?
Gosh! What a sad story. It sounds like there was perhaps a lot more going on during those 50 years beyond the contents of your father's closets, which your dear mother must have been fully aware of. The most telling parts are the abject disposal of his car (a conspicuous luxury) and the fact that neither you nor your brothers were offered anything from his estate. I am so sorry.
As long as you and your family have a decent shelter, food and means to live a good life, you do whatever sartorially. Even a pair of chinos, sportscoat and loafers can set you apart from most people these days. A lot of people in bigger cities these days dress as if they worked in the nearest gym.
To USAF Mark. (1) don’t buy MTM; buy bespoke. If you’re on this journey, it’s where you’ll to wind up anyway, and when you arrive you won’t want to wear anything else. So, get there sooner. (2) don’t commission a suit. A suit isn’t versatile enough for your purposes, and you don’t want this one suit to become your off duty uniform. Instead, commission a navy blazer, a sports jacket (brown or olive green w/subtle check maybe), and 3 pairs of trousers. This will allow you to put together multiple combinations, each looking great.
Literally came here to make the same as your second point - i was about to suggest he get a blazer first - will get far more use dressed up or down - especially as his daytime wear is his uniform rather than a business suit
Hi. Bought some tweed cloth from Fabworks (Dewsbury) and Abraham Moon (Guiseley) and had my fabric made into a superb 3 piece suit and extra trousers by a superb tailor based in Guiseley. Picked up the lot on 11th May (2024) and wow, what a result. Raymond Andrews, so much credit to you, sir.
£715 for a 3 piece suit and trousers, using my own cloth. Anybody around the Leeds area, checkout the aforementioned names.
I love Tweed herringbone cloth. Raymond is a magnificent tailor.
I went out on Sat evening in Kirkstall Brewery after picking it up, with my wife into Leeds. Wore Trickers Tan Bourton Brogues to finish the ensemble.
Too warm for the full 3 piece so I had just the waistcoat, trousers and pale blue shirt and shoes... It looked amazing. 👏👍
Outstanding sir.
To Mark:
Your inquiry made me think seriously about my spending habit. I admit I examined myself as somehow self centered.
Now I am more determined to control my self
Thank you
It’s an interesting question. I’d suggest slowing down a bit and buying wisely, perhaps some quality pre-owned bargains. Your taste and probably your size will change over time (both are always evolving throughout our lives). At 22 it’s important to start saving and investing. With compound interest rates the difference in later life could be hugely significant.
Great video Ash! I also find myself spending serious money on sartorial clothing items.
However, I think I found a certain golden path: artisans or companies with excellent price-value ratio.
Excellent video again Ash and very good advice to a young man. I couldn’t have put it better myself.
Glad you enjoyed it
Absolutely sound advice. As an AF retiree, I completely understand the importance of appearance. It speaks volumes!
When the question was read out, I thought there are a few comments I can make here if they aren't covered. As is so often the case, all the points I was going to make were indeed covered, this is why this is such a great channel.
That is some very good sage advice for everyone Ash. For my work as a guide, I invested in a number of Harris Tweed blazers and waistcoats some time ago. They always feel like I'm wearing a big warm and comfortable tweed hug. I can dress them with up Chino's or down with jeans as needed, depending the job and location at the time.
It doesn't need to break the bank but if one puts some thought into it and invests wisely, sure it will coat a little more at the start. Those well thought out garments, will stand the test of time, and travel throughout life with you.
I bought new underwear today. Well, new to me.
😂
Ash another triumph. You hit everything I would have said and more. I personally only have two suits as I do not have many occasions to wear one. It sounds like Mark is a well rounded gentleman and has his priorities right. As for women Mark you will know the right one when you find her. She will have the same values as you. Best regards Ron
Any young man would do well to watch this video.Invaluable advice given clearly and concisely by the eloquent Mr Jones.
Thank you sir.
I read a biography of Jimmy Walker, who was the mayor of New York back in the 1920s and a noted man-about-town. He went on a grand tour of Europe in 1927 taking 4 dozen suits and 100 ties and that was only part of his wardrobe!
This was all incredible and valuable information. Especially for a young guy.
I learned to laundry suits at home in my washing machine.
I regularly go to flea markets, thrift shops and alike which sell pre-owned clothes.
Suit separates are very affordable.
All I have to do is to pay the alterations.
All of the trousers, jackets and blazers I've got are pure wool.
Ofc I'm also learning how to press a suit.
I think I've spent more money on wool and cashmere scarves than to suit trousers and jackets. 😂
Love that!
Amazing video. I find myself in a very similar position to mark and to have similar beliefs. Very well done answer thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
From personal experience. I bought nice clothes from my late teens to early 20s. I never wore them; then, they just then didn't fit.
Also, all you need is a nice body for clothes to look nice; now, all of my clothes are cheap store brand clothes that look expensive, and nice because they fit my body frame well.
I have to say, I buy all my smart/formal clothes used. I have learned how to do simple alterations and how to resole, re-welt and refurbish goodyear welted shoes to a good standard only relying on a cobbler to do the actual outsole stitch as I cannot do that without a very expensive machine. I try to buy British or European made shirts and ties and suits/ suit coats from what were British firms. It is possible to buy these items a LOT cheaper than well known fashion items. We are lucky in the UK in that respect.
Good morning sir
As per your normal form a top class and informative vlog!
Great point re your wife's equestrian hoby . Family members are of that "persuasion "so I'm aware of the costs !!
As a comparison I would wager that "Neddy and Dobin"have a more expensive "shoe habit "than Northamptons finest could match 😊😊😊
Keep up the content I'm sure my dress style is improving as a conciquens of your work .
As a female viewer, I think so , looking a gentleman dressing well and well groomed .it’s very pleasant and got the attention of the ladies. I worked in a financial institution,and I remembered young customer come to the branch, he always , impeccable dress, and smelling great. , we took turns, to give service to him 😜.
What I would say: Learn how to invest in stocks and start putting money into the s&p500. You won't feel guilty if you invest more money into your future than you spend on clothes. I also see style as a somewhat passive hobby, personally I have investing and finance as a more active hobby. Also sometimes it's better to find a passion for the clothes you have rather than going for perfectionism, I think that's something to get to over time. 👍
Excellent as always Ash.
In my opinion, a very simple method to keep the peace in a partnership or marriage is to make a budget for your monthly expenses. Each partner should have a certain amount of money on his or her disposal, that he or she can spend for whatever they want. It doesn't matter if this is 20, 200 or 2000 USD per month. Just talk about it openly and honestly, come to an agreement, make a budget and stick to it.
PS: greetings from an occasional female guest on your channel 🙂
I dress well so that I don't end up thinking and thinking how bad I look with cheap clothes. Wearing nice clothing helps to reduce my stress.
Hello Sir, I newly find your channel and I have to say that your content with your knowledge and experience in combination with your personality is very nice to watch. Because of you I am looking forward to get my hands on some of the James Bond books. Btw. very good video again.
Thanks and welcome
Always informative ash.
Gracias excelente. Saludos desde México.
Your videos are some sort of hypnosis. Lovely suggestions to that viewer. When he becomes the man he is, the lady that falls in love with him will be a 100% match.
Yes, spending too much on shoes. Did many mistakes/ errors of buying dress shoes.
15:19 this is all you really need to know!
It's like any other forms of addiction. Makes us forget the reality.
After which will only leave us feeling empty and dissatisfied
Problem with spending indicates that someone has no real purpose in life
I watched your video on ties with great interest. I wondered why you didn't choose one of your own military ties? Surely they must be among your proudest possessions?
Timeless style for us older gents
I am! Thank you for noticing.
Welcome!
Ohhhh yes…. What an excellent question. Sadly this is our vice too. Rest assured.. he is not alone. Mind you at 68.. I’m allowed to blow the dough.
The problem with people in general is, that most people are not assertive about their personal life, which is bad in a sense, that people let other people dictade, what they can or can´t love. Well, this is obviously nonsense and no one has the right to destroy a dream of others, no one! So if someone has problem with what I love as a hobby or anything else, I just say, there is the door! You don´t respect my life, you don´t have to be a part of it and that is it. Nothing more, nothing else. Only with this kind of mentality, I can move forward and keep improving in my life and above all to be proud of myself, that I retain my identity.
Of course I am not saying, that this young man should be inconsiderate of his family, but he should protect his identity no mather, which hobby he likes. It is his business and his happiness and frankly, being well dressed is the best thing a person could do. People should be civil and not look like slobs. Society already has so many overgrown children in this world, so if there is a person, who is willing to look like an adult, it´s only a possitive thing!
So go for it Mark and be smarter than most average people. Be an example and master of your life. Be somebody and don´t ever let anyone tell you to be nobody!
Sadly I did. Everything new I saw on YT I had to have. Now I haven't bought anything new in over a year. What I have is enough for this life.
So educative.
There's enough quality advice here for several videos. My favorite tidbit of wisdom was to marry a woman with an expensive hobby. My wife's hobby is flying to Japan to visit family. The postal service just delivered my almost new Crockett & Jones Islay boots and she asks, "How much did those cost?"
I replied, "Not as much as you paid for 12" more legroom on a flight to Japan".
She comes back with, "That's not the same thing".
Yeah, tell me about it. 10 years from now I'll still have these boots while her "premium" economy seat lasted just 21 hours.
You are a wise tactician sir - life is all about give and take. We give and they take!
I'm a tailor, so I tend to look smart when out and about. I am always amazed at the number of women who stop me in the street or pull up to me at a bus stop only to tell me how wonderful and smart I look.😁
You and me both!
People may scoff at the idea of the King wearing repaired clothing. But remember that "throw away fashion" items have only been around for about 30 years. Prior to that, everyone (even royalty) never threw away clothes just cos they were damaged. They had them repaired. The idea of buying a new item just cos it was damaged would have been considered absolutely ridiculous and utterly frivolous.
not if you like and enjoy what you wear
as you say 12% i notice on my profile pic on FB i get more likes and more by female when i wear classic clothing still most of my clothing are between 20-100euro ,and still i see than am better dress than 70% of the men i see on streets , well i think that at 1-2m of distance not many will notice the difference between a 200eu or 1000eu suite , but for sure will notice if you are jeans/cargo and hoody or suite /jeans and blazer
I buy stuff behind my wife's back. She doesn't quite understand men's needs in the world of Sartorial desires and satisfaction.
If you have items that have not been worn or seldom used then yes you are spending too much. If there are substitute items without loss of quality, then yes. If you dont have disposal funds and savings - then yes too much. If you feel guilty or uncomfortable such to ask, then yes too much - but there is a way. Start with inexpensive classics; get use to suits, shoes and dial it up with every purchase - take time and resist a spurge on expensive ID ehancers - they are costly mistakes
Yes
Buy quality items and you will not spend more long term than people buying new fast fashion items every year. You may even spend less per year after the initial collection is acquired and you enter the maintenance phase. Furthermore, dressing well may lead to more income and may in fact lead to a net financial gain, not a cost.
Buy less, buy quality and buy made in UK
Getting harder to do, and in some case frighteningly expensive.
Dearest Ash , have you ever hiked or visited Hadrians Wall ?
Nn sir, not got there as yet.
Hey Ash. I've recently purchased some used shirts on eBay. Amazing values to be had. I'm concerned about buying used shoes for fear they are broken in by someone else's foot and won't fit me as well as a shoe i break in. Have you found any truth in my concern?
No sir, do not worry, they shoe will swiftly conform to your foot, just as a new shoe does when you wear it for the first few times.
Hi, what jacket are you wearing? Many thanks
It's a Jaeger blouson jacket in black wool. Sadly Jaeger no longer exist - went bust a few years ago.
Whether we like it or not, human beings are highly judgmental creatures and will definitely form an impression of you based on your attire and your demeanor. For this reason, I would say that spending money on quality, classic clothing is a worthwhile investment in one's self and in one's earning potential in the job market.
If clothing is a passion of this young man, and if he knows how to save money, and has few other material indulgences, then I can see no reason why he shouldn't spend his hard-earned money on some quality suits, shoes, and accessories.
My only concern would be this: at his age, and in the circles in which he is likely to move, he may be so over-dressed as to be completely out of step with his peer group. -As we all know, part of dressing appropriately is understanding the dress code, be it informal or formal, that exists in every social situation and seeking to be well-dressed without looking out of place.
A made-to-measure suit is a luxury. The body changes shape over the years anyway, so it can't be an exact science.
It's only a luxury if you can find a similar quality and good fit off the rack. Many men can't. Most men need to get new off-the-rack suits tailored anyway.
Take a mortgage out on your teeth .
you definitely don't spend enough on your hair.
Good for Ash on not spending much money on his hair. For guys, bald is the only way to go.
Just ask Samuel L. Jackson and Joe Pantoliano.
@@timcorrell9863 lol