From the NTSB final accident report: "Probable Cause: The pilot's inadequate pretakeoff checks which resulted in the magneto switch (key) remaining in the OFF position during the takeoff sequence and initial climb and the right magneto grounding intermittently." Pilot took off with the Mags in the OFF position. Engine continued to run because right magneto was not grounding properly. Well, it grounded properly a short time after liftoff. ;) Luckily pilot had significant forward airspeed despite being at a low altitude, facilitating the successful autorotation without injury to any on board. Had the helo been in a low airspeed/hover scenario at the altitude engine failure occurred (so-called deadman's curve), thing could've gotten ugly in a hurry. Pilot should've detected mag grounding problem during engine runup (which he did NOT perform). Becoming airborne with the ignition in the OFF position saved the lives of several hogs though I guess?
If you watch the video you actually see him go to shut the mags off and that's when he realizes, they were off. He was about to say something about it and shrugged and said "it's alright". Bad deal for sure, at least nobody got hurt.
@@palacio802 forgetting the mags for sure was a mistake, but still he did a great job with safely landing the helicopter from such a low altitude. respects to this guy
@@pseipp in this world of RUclips I always detect a lot of conformism and optimism. But let me tell you this pilot is supposed to be a professional and autorotation in an R44 is a fairly simple maneuver that is practiced a lot. On the other hand, he destroys the helicopter (look at the tail). All this after having caused the engine failure himself due to his incompetence. In my company he would not last a second longer in his position. And the insurance company probably won't pay.
@@palacio802 Wow, so glad you got your "I'll never make a mistake in my life" certification. Everyone in aviation knows only stupid incompetent people make mistakes. I know that, cuz I've never made a mistake. I'm smart.
If i remember the accident report for this correctly, the pilot actually took off with the key in the "OFF" position. During post accident inspections a mechanic was able to recreate the engine running with key turned off and after disconnecting and reconnecting the magnetos the engine no longer would run with the key in the off position. That said, despite the big oopsie of leaving the key off, any landing you walk away from is a good one.
Looking at the video and a quick recap of the R44 panel controls you can see them take off with the key in off. Good catch. Edit: You can even see at 1:57 he does the motion of flipping the key to off but it doesn't move because it was already off... Tough.
Yeah, I see before take off the key is in the off position? How did he start the aircraft? No Engine Run up and Mag check? Faulty ground on the mag? Wow, I have flown 1000s of hours . I do a mag check and run up every time. 😅
@@RandySeverinoI believe it was the second flight of the day, after the start and run up one of the passengers dropped something on the dash and hit some switches/the key etc. the pilot didn’t verify everything was back in the correct position prior to take off. The faulty ground cause this engine out
@@dropkickdrones4569 under normal conditions you can’t. A faulty ground is the only reason the engine wasn’t cut off immediately when the key was knocked to the off position
Have a read of NTSB accident report CEN21LA109. PS, it's been pretty funning listening to all the so called experts under this video and other videos of this incident, who claim x thousands of hours as pilots, flight mechanics, military, etc, with me knowing all the while that they were 100% wrong and yet they were 100% sure of themselves. The NTSB in their report confirmed what I had been saying, all along going back those two years since it happened. "I'm a military pilot with x,xxx hours in this, that and the other"... "I'm a flight mechanic of XX years"... "I've been doing this since before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye!", "Go back to your flight sims kid"... etc etc and they were all WRONG! LOL The mag switch was set to OFF, so says the NTSB. There was an intermittent ground connection on one of the p-leads, so says the NTSB. Exactly what I said from day one. _"The_ _National_ _Transportation_ _Safety_ _Board_ _determines_ _the_ _probable_ _cause(s)_ _of_ _this_ _accident_ _to_ _be:_ _The_ _pilot’s_ _inadequate_ _pretakeoff_ _checks_ _which_ _resulted_ _in_ _the_ _magneto_ _switch_ _(key)_ _remaining_ _in_ _the_ _OFF_ _position_ _during_ _the_ _takeoff_ _sequence_ _and_ _initial_ _climb_ _and_ _the_ _right_ _magneto_ _grounding_ _intermittently."_
@@siennavanlife9502I must have watched this video 1000 times now. I can't count how many times I've watched this and just thought "wow WTF." So many things wrong with not making sure both magnetos are switched to "both" before taking off. You know read the high velocity diagram remember after taking off not to fly so low over trees. Real good hover to transverse flow to ETL take off profile. But you know probably wouldn't have thought the one Magneto he switched to was going to fail on him. Got the collective down, held it down, maintained a decent AirSpeed and RPMs and before he hit that tree and chopped the tail he looked like he had a good flare going. And it was a very nice landing no one was hurt not even a scratch it seems. Robinson does very well with those spring and yield skids. Could have been much worst. This is definitely the key to not being obsessed with radio calls and navigating before you go flying make sure you aviate, navigate, communicate. He didn't get mad and didn't Panic that's for sure and made a good Landing it was a good Auto. Pretty good flying. Just don't forget how important your startup checks are make sure to check both magnetos. I also sort of doubt he looked at the needles for much of a drop on the one Magneto he did test that he left on the on position he probably would have seen something was wrong. But yeah this is what muscle memory is All About damn good Landing. Maybe he could have brought the RPMs down to 90% And attempted a Max Glide might have gone over the tree. But obviously if you're starting the auto at 300 ft you don't have time for that. He had to 90° it as well so with the decision-making process he had to make the turn and did not necessarily even have much of a time to look for the landing spot and was trying to maintain the airspeed and RPMs at the same time. Anyone who has attempted 180°s knows that you have just seconds to make those decisions. You know just make sure like any pilot that looks for power lines that your flying high above them and you generally Fly Above the tree directly over it which might seem to backwards to someone that's not a pilot but for a pilot you understand that it's easier than to turn away from the tree if you lose the engine just like you practice when flying cross countries we're doing autos at the field and avoiding obstacles it's easier to turn away from the tree if you're directly over it then being near it and not flying directly over it and then having to turn and make the bad decision of actually going towards it because you have to make a split decision in seconds. And it's always 500 ft above obstacles 500 ft you're only 300 ft if you're above the grass which he started out with a good hover at the translation of lift to transverse flow to ETL profile but obviously didn't do the PreFlight correctly didn't fly over the trees correctly but did a damn good auto. And with Robinson like Bell and all other companies whoever they get the skids from those are manufactured spring and yield so even a hard Landing like that chopping off the tail which could potentially turn into full LTE if they didn't land so fast or forget LTE if they would have just been straight nose down like a pushover but he had a good glad profile a good level attitude the spring and yield came in handy and no one was hurt. Edit: was even talking to someone a few months ago about this video. They were like "how was that a good flare? They hit the tree." I said "no way if it wasn't a good Flair then instead of the tail hitting the tree they would have hit the tree. He had that flare coming up just correctly right about the height of that tree in about 40 ft begin cyclic flaire. Also the tail was chopped and he had just the right amount of speed directions and RPMs to have enough momentum that the helicopter continued a little to the ground without LTE without the tail or screw LTE there's no vertical stabilizer anymore so without a full straight nose down Landing. This is what auto rotation practice is for. Its why radio calls are third. Navigation is second. Aviate is first it's aviate navigate communicate. You know as I said before just taking a little more time to check those magnetos and make sure the needles don't drop too high of a percentage it's one of the most important things on that checklist. That's all. But the auto was muscle memory that's for sure
"Great job by the pilot" for leaving the mags in OFF position. As a former pilot you should've seen that. Also with the speed he was going the autorotation landing should've been much smoother. Otherwise "GREAT JOB"
That **sigh** **pause** “it’s alright” when he went to turn off the magneto key, just to realize they have been off the whole time and miss functioning lmao. I hope this never happens to me, I’m definitely triple checking where my mag key is, along with everything else.
@@kylehill4437The mag key turns on and selects your magnitos. Magnitos control the ignition system of an aircraft sending spark to the engine. We have two just incase one were to fail and you are supposed to check that both are properly functioning during your preflight. It seems this guy failed to do so. Somehow the engine was able to start with them turned off so there was likely an issue with the wiring. But it means this is 100% on the pilot for not following basic safety checks. Cause this would be easily caught on the ground.
Im an Aviation and aeronautics student, and this was a pilot error, he only had his right magneto on, you can see the key was turned to "right", when it should be on both. His engine wouldnt have quit had he followed his checklist. This is one of the quite normal human factors within aviation. The pilot is to blame, but he made a fine autorotation landing and im glad everyone made it out ok. But you can only praise the pilot so much, in the end he is to blame for causing this incident.
Here's the conclusion to the NTSB report of this crash. Pilot error during preflight. The pilot reported that it was the second flight of the day. After an uneventful first flight, the helicopter returned to the airport to refuel and pick up new passengers. The purpose of the flight was to hunt game. As the passengers were getting into the helicopter, a rifle was dropped on the dash of the helicopter which turned the alt switch, master switch, and clutch switch to off. The pilot immediately turned the switches back on and conducted a hover power and final systems check. The helicopter then took off uneventfully. About 120 ft above the ground, the engine sputtered once then lost complete power. The pilot performed a left turning autorotation to a field. During the descent, the pilot increased the throttle, but the engine did not respond. The helicopter impacted trees before it landed hard on a small mound of dirt and came to rest nose low. During the impact sequence, the main rotor blade contacted and severed the tail boom. The pilot never reported that he conducted the '˜starting engine and run up' checklist before taking off. This was confirmed by an onboard video. The video also showed the ignition switch in OFF throughout the flight, the impact, and following the accident sequence. During a postaccident engine run, the engine started uneventfully, and a magneto check was completed. When the ignition switch was in the right magneto position the engine rpm stayed the same instead of decreasing, indicating the magneto was not properly grounding. In addition, the engine continued to run despite the ignition switch being in the off position, indicating the engine was operating on one magneto. The ignition switch key was jiggled, manipulated, and even removed from the ignition switch, but the engine continued to run. The engine was shut down and electrical continuity was established from the ignition switch to the magnetos. The magneto grounding wires were examined and appeared to be properly secured. The wiring was tested with a volt/ohm meter and functioned normally. The grounding wires were reinstalled, and the engine was restarted. It operated normally and several magneto checks were normal. The magnetos were removed for a functional bench test and disassembly; no anomalies were noted with either magneto. The ignition switch was also removed, disassembled, and examined. No anomalies were found. Even though functional and disassembly tests did not indicate a problem with the magnetos themselves, the right magneto did not ground appropriately during the initial engine run. The anomaly was unable to be recreated after the magneto grounding wires were removed and reinstalled. Because the pilot did not perform all the required pretakeoff checks to ensure all the switches were in the correct positions prior to takeoff, the helicopter took off with the ignition switch in the OFF position. An undefined issue with the grounding wire caused the right magneto to not ground and allowed the helicopter to operate with the ignition in the 'off' position. The magneto likely grounded during the initial climb, and since the ignition switch was in the OFF position, the engine shut down. Probable Cause: The pilot's inadequate pretakeoff checks which resulted in the magneto switch (key) remaining in the OFF position during the takeoff sequence and initial climb and the right magneto grounding intermittently.
@@bolohawaii3087Insane amount of detail but it makes sense that there is that much for such a critical situation as this was or could have been (and to prevent them in the future).
I caught this via a link from LiveLeak where it said the pilot 'had some explaining to do'. Yeah, like how did you stay so cool and land that thing with everyone safe? Well done to him!
@@HobbyOrganist it's not supposed to be hard or sportsmanlike, the point is to kill as much of them as quickly as possible. I would recommend you to research the topic on the wild pigs and the damage that they cause.
They congratulated the pilot for getting them down alive, but I wonder how they felt once they heard he'd lifted without turning the Mags on, in other words, a crash-landing caused by his evident reckless pre-flight check? 2:02 He goes to switch off the Mags and realises he's balls'd up, hence his sheepish sigh.
Props (pun intended) to the pilot. Made an error or had a failure that put it in the dirt but managed to recover enough in that half a second or so to autorotate and land without rolling it or going into an uncontrolled decent. Guy had like 5 seconds to make it work and he did a damn fine job, then made sure everyone was safe.
All joking aside, my missus has an obsession with the Air Crash Investigation programs and her dream job would be a crash investigator. If I text her and told her I was in a plane/heli crash she would honestly be jealous!
Based on the NTSB report mentioned in the comments, the pilot failed to perform proper pretakeoff checks which resulted in the magneto switch (key) remaining in the off position during the takeoff sequence and initial climb and the right magneto grounding intermittently. This pilot is being praised for his landing in these comments but if he didn’t have the forward airspeed he did, this crash would’ve likely killed or badly injured those on board. This crash is his fault, through snd through. Do your pre checks from a-z and don’t skip a damn corner or things like this happen. Luck with a tad bit of skill is what happened here. Not a “fantastic pilot”.
@@jasonguti928 It’s cool because the pilot’s first concern is the passengers health, and then apologizes for the crash. (We don’t know why it went down, but I suspect mechanical trouble). No panicking, no rage or anger, just pure professionalism.
@@Name-ps9fx that is what they train for. Folk don't realize it but most training for flying is training to stay alive. And that is a fact. Kind of like heavy haul truck drivers in a way. It's mostly about safety. Working safely gets old. But so do those who practice it ! The pilot knew what he was doing. He flew the thing instead of letting it fall out of the sky.
Not sure what's most impressive, the pilot's skills and the safe landing or the fact that not one person started screaming like an idiot during the entire ordeal.
@@flycatchfulapparently, you've never heard of Tik Tok. Videos on there every day of wake turbulence and people screaming like idiots over a slightly bumpy ride. these guys were watching themselves crash and not a sound.
"You're one hell of a fucking pilot." Well said sir. He's likely the reason you are still breathing. His quick reaction and proper response really saved the day! Glad I saw this video.
If you look closely, the pilot actually took off with the magneto key in the "off" position. The engine's ignition system was doomed to fail sometime and the pilot did not do his proper pre-flight checklist
My assumption is a bad P-lead on the mags. NTSB report says this was the 3rd flight of the day so engine was most likely already warm and didn’t require a prime to start back up before this accident. The pilot failed to do a mag check after start up which resulted in the mag switch being set to off position instead of both. With a faulty P-lead the engine with still spark. I guess that with the vibration of the engine caused the lead to get a proper connection and cause the engine to quit since the key was in the off position. One thing that could’ve been done to prevent this is if the pilot followed his checklist after starting and before taking off (at least checking all components that are required to be on before take off. Make sure mixture is fully in, Mags are set to both, Engine and rotor RPM needles are matched, etc) Good landing though. Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. One thing that could’ve been improved is once the engine failed he dropped the collective which is what you want to do in this situation but he pitched forward to try and gain airspeed which made him loose his rotor RPM which is why the Low Rotor horn was buzzing the entire way down. Great job turning left and away from the wires, they are a death sentence. Overall 9/10 on the landing (only one thing could’ve been fixed but at least everyone made it out) 0/10 on the post-startup/pre-takeoff checks, this entire thing could’ve been prevented if that key was caught before takeoff. At that point if they key was in the off position and I was the PIC and seen that with the engine still running that would be pull the mixture and have maintenance come take a look at it and determine and fix what is wrong because the engine shouldn’t be able to run at all with the key set to off or even start in the first place.
I remember when i was in a crash. we were taking off to pick up some air assault guys and do training. we came to a hover just after getting clearance and lost our tail rotor. Pilot autorotated 20 feet down hard. Blew out the hydraulics on the main landing gear and cracked the mountings for the transmission. I Didn't quite make it back to my seat and ended up with a fractured hip. But other than a few broken bones everyone was alright.
@@SgtPickledic well, after doing some research on it and looking at the video a little more carefully (hey you're ruining my joke! lol), you're correct about the preflight, BUT fuel wasn't his problem... He was flying with mags in the OFF position, which can be seen clearly in the video right at the beginning at the 0:04 sec mark, and also right after the landing at the 1:52 mark. The wiring for the mags obviously had an issue as the P-lead ground(s) obviously weren't grounding on takeoff, but then decided to ground in flight. He realized his mistake after landing when he reached down to turn off the mags and saw that it was already in the off position. So yeah, PREFLIGHT! He screwed up. But he did autorotate quite well.
I can't believe how gentle the crash was. Seconds before impacting the ground, I thought it was going to be very violent with blades hitting the Earth & shredding apart and a broken cockpit.
I love how everyone on the copter was calm during the whole deal and even after the crash. These are the guys I want to hang out with when the things go south.
That was so controlled till the end where everyone evacuates. Also the handling of the guns, it was never stressful, passengers kept calm all the time and let the pilot work. That situational awareness at all times was astounding. Props to everyone.
Yes the careless handling of loaded weapons sitting in your lap while you crash land. Anyone who needs to shoot a animal while flying above is a coward and should be butt stroked to the head with his own rifle.
@@avantgarde619 Texas A&M(please google this school if you don't know who they are) did a study which determined aerial boar hunting to be the most cost effective, and efficient manner of population control of this nuisance species. A lot of the time these guys end up giving away excess meat to soup kitchens and other local social programs.
I'm impressed by the complete silence in the cockpit while it was going down. Not even an, "oh s**t!" Props to all for being calm and steady under that situation.
what does yelling do for anyone? i cant stand that shit during fight videos/dashcams when theres always one or two people screaming at the top of their lungs which only adds to the issue at hand. makes my blood boil lol, get a fucking hold of yourself
@@Bbfishman Have you ever been in a life or death situation? Sure it doesn't help but human's are emotional creatures and lash out when shit goes bad. You can't fault someone for reacting out of instinct in a stressful situation like this one.
@@GobanShodan they reacted great in this one....i was talking about people witnessing a fight or witnessing a car accident screaming....or even being involved in a fender bender. they are in no immediate danger and just scream and scream when they have nothing to do with the situation. those are the ones im referring to, not people screaming while they're headed straight at the ground in an airplane or some other truly life threatening situation
The third indicator to the right on the lower roll is manifold pressure meter, which suddenly increase after the low RPM alarm and finally crossed the red line on the meter. Normally, a huge input change of collective pitch level or extreme high collective level can lead to low RPM, but in this case, the low RPM alarm ring before the increase of manifold pressure, which should be caused by malfunction of engine.
I'm a thousand-hour, instrument-rated private pilot who has had THREE engine failures in single-engine aircraft, and you, sir, are a steely-eyed missile man.
@@shanesgettinghandy recips dont run with the mags set to off... period... the fact that the engine was running before and during take off means the ignition switch by definition could not be in off. I hold an A&P...
Pause at 0:15. Look up an image of the Raven II panel and compare the switch position. IT WAS OFF. Then read further down in the comments and see how many others are saying the SAME THING.
@@shanesgettinghandy ask me how I know you have never worked on an aviation reciprocating engine. For that engine to have spark, the magnetos have to be in the “both” “left” or “right” position. The mag switch on an aviation recip engine, when set to “off” GROUNDS THE MAGNETOS and GIVES THE SPARK A SHORTER PATH TO GROUND BYPASSING THE SPARK PLUGS. Unless his switch or the p leads to the magnetos were BROKEN. The engine would have never started in the first place. Let alone kept running. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Watching the rotor RPM you can see that pulled up the collective way too early, practicing low level engine failures is definitely a good idea to avoid issues like this
Engine RPM and manifold pressure dropped like a fucking rock. They were going down one way or another, and the pilot made the safest landing possible given the situation
@@fitzroyfastnet I've seen multiple people aswell as pilots comment about the key thing aswell. Apparently it was because he essentially had the heli running at "half" functionality due to the other spark plugs not running. So the engine in turn failed, because of the other sets of spark plugs not running....sadly pilot error. This also explains the immediate"sorry about that boys" after landing since I'm sure right at that moment he knew it was pilot error himself. Yet he still remained calm, and managed to land safely which is the important thing really. Shit happens.
@@fitzroyfastnet hes flying pretty quick, maybe the pilot not realizing that he had to have his foot twice as far down caused the cylinders that were working to fail somehow such as overheating. just a shot in the dark idk
@@fitzroyfastnet At least one person here knows what they're talking about. Yeah there are two mags for redundancy, redundancy being the keyword. Every airplane/heli should still operate with one magneto just fine (as long as they have two to start with). Right after startup this is a checklist item to make sure each is providing full functionality. Running with one mag does not make a heli fall out of the sky. An engine failure does.
@@lestersmith7748 I can only think the engine failure may be related to the magneto switch position, but I can't tell and would never make that claim. As an instructor I always advocate take off into the wind (not sure if that happened here, may have been a slight tail wind), once you hit @35kts, rotate and climb out. As long as your climbout is smooth to 500' AGL and you arrive at 60kt at the same time, you should be well positioned for an engine failure. Looks like this take off was low and fast, and you see the result. Still, given the position he was in, he did a great job trying to save it. Often though, prevention is better than the cure. 500', 60kts. Stay above those 2 numbers and you should be well positioned for an engine out landing.
@@michaelking42 Whatever the cause of the engine “failure”, I agree that the pilot made the best of a bad situation. That said, it appears that he put himself in a position where the outcome could easily have been very different.
@@Jinxx270 Engine failed. You can see RPM drop (1:23) at the top right gauge when left needle went to zero at the main panel (left is engine RPM in %, right is rotor RPM). Can't say what exactly happened since oil and fuel light went on after the engine fail not before.
@@stehlajz according to someone else in these comments, the pilot had the key turned to the left magneto position instead of both, essentially running the engine at 50% capacity and causing it to fail.
I don’t care how many people say it’s his fault shits hard asl driving and controlling a helicopter. He did an amazing job landing her on the ground with no one harmed !
@@animalm4st3r the engine failed because the pilot failed to make the most basic checks before takeoff. The engine only did what the pilot told it to that day.
It could have been a lot worse but it also could have been a lot better if he would have pulled the collective a little bit sooner there’s a chance he would have been able to save the r44
@@Henny39 he obviously means engine failure and yes if you auto rotate correctly you can land a helicopter without damaging it during an angina failure. I'm sure you know this so why are you arguing?
Holy Toledo the tail boom was sliced clean off! That was the infamous Robinson helicopter tail boom strike! I cannot believe this pilot pulled off a landing with NO tail rotor. My God, this is a miracle if there ever was one. The true cause of the crash wasn't evident until the very end of this video clip when the severed tail boom became apparent.
The people who disliked this video do not understand anything about airmanship. Basically no altitude and no time to react and still executes a forced landing perfectly. Great work!
I think they were just libs and peta rats who didn’t like the gun and hunting aspect of it. I, honestly, would do just about anything to go on that kind of hog hunt.
@@ziggy3237 peta is so stupid. These people hate hogs getting hunted but don’t realize they will wipe out untold number of other species of plants and animals. Fucking idiots
Good quick thinking pilot. Rotors lost energy fast, especially with the left hand turn. Can only assume twas to avoid powerlines along that stretch of road.
Looked like a good recovery to me. I went down in a UH-1 into the Mekong River. I was the back seat commander of the ground troops for an operation. When all of the red lights came on, instead of just one, I knew it was terminal. And I shut down all talk in the back, knowing he did not need anything on the intercom. We were about 2000ft. to stay above small-arms fire, so I knew he had some leeway. He immediately turned into the wind and auto rotated into the Mekong, just about ten feet from the shore. Perfect spot. We waded out. The crew chief opened the cowl, where the shaft goes to the rear propeller, and the shaft fell off in his hand. He got down and puked. We were that close to a catastrophic failure. The only thing these Texas guys did not do was put out a defensive perimeter in case of being attacked by the Viet Cong - I mean boars. You know. Those wild piggy things.
We had excellent pilots in Nam, I built turbines for Huey’s & cobras & test flew each & everyone we worked on the the engine shop. If I wouldn’t get in the chopper we worked on for test flight, the pilot wouldn’t fly it. Every flight involved an autorotation to a small clearing in the bush. Back up & back to the airfield. Great pilots back then!👍🏻
Following this accident the NTSB issued a recommendation that Fortunate Son must be played in all helicopters during take off and flight bellow 1000ft AGL. With dispensation from the FAA, All Along the Watchtower or Paint it Black can be played instead, if the helicopter is configured for six passengers or fewer.
@@danielrehn81 they should add house of the rising son and for what it’s worth to the list too. I’m glad to see them taking steps though. That’s important
So, nothing could possibly be more important than texting just after a crash? Nothing. No fuel leaks to check for. No smoke? He takes off his headphones and starts to text. Ya, brilliant pilot.
Anyone else get the vibe that they were mildly annoyed instead of blissful and euphoric LOL?! "Well we survived, that's good. Now my day's ruined".... haha
Yeah, but somewhere else in the comments someone says he was flying with the key in the L position instead of on both (magnetos). I can't tell if that's correct, but if it is then the pilot did not just solve the problem they were in - but caused it, too.....
@@SolarWebsite MAG was set to Both. If you watch the manifold pressure and RPMs you can see there was a mechanical malfunction that caused him to enter an autorotation. He properly executed a 90 degree turn auto.
@@AndrewS-ht3uo You're wrong. It's blatantly in the OFF position Here's a high-res photo of the cockpit: www.helistore.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/img_1188.jpg
I've been flying helicopters for 42 years, I would like to congratulate the colleague for the excellent and precise maneuver. Perfect job! Congrats!! 👏👏👏👏👏
By any chance have you flown an R44? Could you confirm the mag switch looks to be in the Off position at the beginning of the video? Also at 1:59 during the shutdown he tries to turn the key to off, but it is already seems to be in that position.
the engine failed, this would be a lycoming or maintenance or preflight issue, not a robinson issue. In fact, the helicopter held up fantastically well given how bad the pilot's autorotation was.
@@dylanpowell2307 haha clearly, you aren't a pilot either. Robinson helicopters have an outstanding safety record when flown in accordance with their design parameters and with proper knowledge of their limitations. Part 135 operations do have more substantial maintenance requirements but mechanical failure isn't the main cause for crashes in any helicopter, including robinsons. You see more robinsons crash because there are about 10x more of them in use than any other aircraft, they're used in almost all training operations, and they're cheap so private owners fly them mostly which lends to pilot errors and simply more flight hours being the cause of a higher incident ratio. That being said, after watching this video closely, this was pilot error. The key is in the "L" position at 1oclock when it should be in "both" position at 5oclock. This has to do with the magnetos which give power to the spark plugs which makes them run. The pilot was essentially running only half the spark plugs, something that should only occur during a failure and only to land right away. This was pilot error and not the aircraft in any way. 👍🏻 Signed, someone that knows way more than you.
@@tristancervantes1855 if you dropped a rifle from tabletop height it would've probably sustained more damage than this rifle. It was basically only shaken a little, nothing that would alter the gun in such a way to randomly shoot
Yup, real hunters. Using a high powered rifle and a helicopter to gun down 4 legged mammals. Some tough southern types right there. Think they got rejected from the military.
@@tristancervantes1855 lol im saying dumb shit. Im a volunteer firefighter and have pulled guns out of multiple houses that have burnt down or are burning down. Most the time the bolt is welded in place from the heat and anything not steel has melted or burned away. But lets say this gun survived, if you are dumb enough to use a firearm after its been in extreme heat like a house fire you deserve a Darwin. Heat stretches and substantially weakens steel, at that point you are far more likely to have the gun randomly explode when firing. If you need to see what happens when a gun explodes while firing watch Kentucky ballistics on youtube. Guns have had negligent discharges from falling but its incredibly rare, and when that happens its going to be right when it hits the ground because an internal component has to break, its not going to happen after its on the ground. It would then be the same odds of it having a negligent discharge as if it never fell. Ive dropped guns from treestands higher than what the helicopter was flying and never had one discharge.
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You know the ammo shortage is bad when we start throwing helicopters at hogs.
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Oh boy thats rich
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Well played!
Imagine all the hogs start closing in like in Blackhawk Down
Hahaha
Shit this comment caught me off guard
Would've made for a good movie then.
Tight 360! Set claymore! Light those pigs up!!!
💀
From the NTSB final accident report: "Probable Cause: The pilot's inadequate pretakeoff checks which resulted in the magneto switch (key) remaining in the OFF position during the takeoff sequence and initial climb and the right magneto grounding intermittently."
Pilot took off with the Mags in the OFF position. Engine continued to run because right magneto was not grounding properly. Well, it grounded properly a short time after liftoff. ;) Luckily pilot had significant forward airspeed despite being at a low altitude, facilitating the successful autorotation without injury to any on board. Had the helo been in a low airspeed/hover scenario at the altitude engine failure occurred (so-called deadman's curve), thing could've gotten ugly in a hurry.
Pilot should've detected mag grounding problem during engine runup (which he did NOT perform). Becoming airborne with the ignition in the OFF position saved the lives of several hogs though I guess?
If you watch the video you actually see him go to shut the mags off and that's when he realizes, they were off. He was about to say something about it and shrugged and said "it's alright". Bad deal for sure, at least nobody got hurt.
... and all people here saying "great airmanship!!!", lol.
@@palacio802 forgetting the mags for sure was a mistake, but still he did a great job with safely landing the helicopter from such a low altitude. respects to this guy
@@pseipp in this world of RUclips I always detect a lot of conformism and optimism. But let me tell you this pilot is supposed to be a professional and autorotation in an R44 is a fairly simple maneuver that is practiced a lot. On the other hand, he destroys the helicopter (look at the tail). All this after having caused the engine failure himself due to his incompetence. In my company he would not last a second longer in his position. And the insurance company probably won't pay.
@@palacio802 Wow, so glad you got your "I'll never make a mistake in my life" certification. Everyone in aviation knows only stupid incompetent people make mistakes. I know that, cuz I've never made a mistake. I'm smart.
If i remember the accident report for this correctly, the pilot actually took off with the key in the "OFF" position. During post accident inspections a mechanic was able to recreate the engine running with key turned off and after disconnecting and reconnecting the magnetos the engine no longer would run with the key in the off position.
That said, despite the big oopsie of leaving the key off, any landing you walk away from is a good one.
Looking at the video and a quick recap of the R44 panel controls you can see them take off with the key in off. Good catch.
Edit: You can even see at 1:57 he does the motion of flipping the key to off but it doesn't move because it was already off... Tough.
Yeah, I see before take off the key is in the off position? How did he start the aircraft? No Engine Run up and Mag check? Faulty ground on the mag? Wow, I have flown 1000s of hours . I do a mag check and run up every time. 😅
@@RandySeverinoI believe it was the second flight of the day, after the start and run up one of the passengers dropped something on the dash and hit some switches/the key etc.
the pilot didn’t verify everything was back in the correct position prior to take off. The faulty ground cause this engine out
The fact that you can even take off with the key in the off position is stupid.
@@dropkickdrones4569 under normal conditions you can’t. A faulty ground is the only reason the engine wasn’t cut off immediately when the key was knocked to the off position
Somewhere theres a Hog looking through a scope and his spotter saying "Thats a hit..."
Haha yes.
Lmaooo
lol
Lol
"Yep splash 1, bandit going down"
As a former helicopter crew member, this was not a crash. This is what you call a "hard landing."
A great job by the pilot.
Have a read of NTSB accident report CEN21LA109.
PS, it's been pretty funning listening to all the so called experts under this video and other videos of this incident, who claim x thousands of hours as pilots, flight mechanics, military, etc, with me knowing all the while that they were 100% wrong and yet they were 100% sure of themselves.
The NTSB in their report confirmed what I had been saying, all along going back those two years since it happened.
"I'm a military pilot with x,xxx hours in this, that and the other"... "I'm a flight mechanic of XX years"... "I've been doing this since before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye!", "Go back to your flight sims kid"... etc etc and they were all WRONG! LOL
The mag switch was set to OFF, so says the NTSB. There was an intermittent ground connection on one of the p-leads, so says the NTSB. Exactly what I said from day one.
_"The_ _National_ _Transportation_ _Safety_ _Board_ _determines_ _the_ _probable_ _cause(s)_ _of_ _this_ _accident_ _to_ _be:_
_The_ _pilot’s_ _inadequate_ _pretakeoff_ _checks_ _which_ _resulted_ _in_ _the_ _magneto_ _switch_ _(key)_ _remaining_ _in_ _the_ _OFF_ _position_ _during_ _the_ _takeoff_ _sequence_ _and_ _initial_ _climb_ _and_ _the_ _right_ _magneto_ _grounding_ _intermittently."_
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Hard landing? His tail is broken. It could have been much worse, yes, but definitely more than a hard landing.
@@siennavanlife9502I must have watched this video 1000 times now. I can't count how many times I've watched this and just thought "wow WTF." So many things wrong with not making sure both magnetos are switched to "both" before taking off. You know read the high velocity diagram remember after taking off not to fly so low over trees. Real good hover to transverse flow to ETL take off profile. But you know probably wouldn't have thought the one Magneto he switched to was going to fail on him. Got the collective down, held it down, maintained a decent AirSpeed and RPMs and before he hit that tree and chopped the tail he looked like he had a good flare going. And it was a very nice landing no one was hurt not even a scratch it seems. Robinson does very well with those spring and yield skids. Could have been much worst. This is definitely the key to not being obsessed with radio calls and navigating before you go flying make sure you aviate, navigate, communicate. He didn't get mad and didn't Panic that's for sure and made a good Landing it was a good Auto. Pretty good flying. Just don't forget how important your startup checks are make sure to check both magnetos. I also sort of doubt he looked at the needles for much of a drop on the one Magneto he did test that he left on the on position he probably would have seen something was wrong. But yeah this is what muscle memory is All About damn good Landing. Maybe he could have brought the RPMs down to 90% And attempted a Max Glide might have gone over the tree. But obviously if you're starting the auto at 300 ft you don't have time for that. He had to 90° it as well so with the decision-making process he had to make the turn and did not necessarily even have much of a time to look for the landing spot and was trying to maintain the airspeed and RPMs at the same time. Anyone who has attempted 180°s knows that you have just seconds to make those decisions. You know just make sure like any pilot that looks for power lines that your flying high above them and you generally Fly Above the tree directly over it which might seem to backwards to someone that's not a pilot but for a pilot you understand that it's easier than to turn away from the tree if you lose the engine just like you practice when flying cross countries we're doing autos at the field and avoiding obstacles it's easier to turn away from the tree if you're directly over it then being near it and not flying directly over it and then having to turn and make the bad decision of actually going towards it because you have to make a split decision in seconds. And it's always 500 ft above obstacles 500 ft you're only 300 ft if you're above the grass which he started out with a good hover at the translation of lift to transverse flow to ETL profile but obviously didn't do the PreFlight correctly didn't fly over the trees correctly but did a damn good auto. And with Robinson like Bell and all other companies whoever they get the skids from those are manufactured spring and yield so even a hard Landing like that chopping off the tail which could potentially turn into full LTE if they didn't land so fast or forget LTE if they would have just been straight nose down like a pushover but he had a good glad profile a good level attitude the spring and yield came in handy and no one was hurt. Edit: was even talking to someone a few months ago about this video. They were like "how was that a good flare? They hit the tree." I said "no way if it wasn't a good Flair then instead of the tail hitting the tree they would have hit the tree. He had that flare coming up just correctly right about the height of that tree in about 40 ft begin cyclic flaire. Also the tail was chopped and he had just the right amount of speed directions and RPMs to have enough momentum that the helicopter continued a little to the ground without LTE without the tail or screw LTE there's no vertical stabilizer anymore so without a full straight nose down Landing. This is what auto rotation practice is for. Its why radio calls are third. Navigation is second. Aviate is first it's aviate navigate communicate. You know as I said before just taking a little more time to check those magnetos and make sure the needles don't drop too high of a percentage it's one of the most important things on that checklist. That's all. But the auto was muscle memory that's for sure
"Great job by the pilot" for leaving the mags in OFF position. As a former pilot you should've seen that. Also with the speed he was going the autorotation landing should've been much smoother. Otherwise "GREAT JOB"
That **sigh** **pause** “it’s alright” when he went to turn off the magneto key, just to realize they have been off the whole time and miss functioning lmao. I hope this never happens to me, I’m definitely triple checking where my mag key is, along with everything else.
Sorry not a pilot... what is a mag key? Thanks
@@kylehill4437The mag key turns on and selects your magnitos. Magnitos control the ignition system of an aircraft sending spark to the engine.
We have two just incase one were to fail and you are supposed to check that both are properly functioning during your preflight. It seems this guy failed to do so.
Somehow the engine was able to start with them turned off so there was likely an issue with the wiring.
But it means this is 100% on the pilot for not following basic safety checks. Cause this would be easily caught on the ground.
Im an Aviation and aeronautics student, and this was a pilot error, he only had his right magneto on, you can see the key was turned to "right", when it should be on both.
His engine wouldnt have quit had he followed his checklist.
This is one of the quite normal human factors within aviation. The pilot is to blame, but he made a fine autorotation landing and im glad everyone made it out ok.
But you can only praise the pilot so much, in the end he is to blame for causing this incident.
R44 can run just fine on one mag. Reduces max MAP by one inch, which isn't a big deal in most flight conditions.
Texts wife: “hey, I’m coming home early, helicopter crashed.”
😂 💀
Wow
Late*?
Texas wife reply: "How many hogs did you take down honey?"
Bring a new pair of underwear.
„Sorry about that bois“
Just like the guy in BF4 chat after he crashes the fully loaded transport chopper at the spawn
Surprised this didn’t get a lot of likes or comments 😂
🤣
More like in Arma 3 king of the hill
LMFAOOOOO
Thats me lol it happens tho
Here's the conclusion to the NTSB report of this crash. Pilot error during preflight.
The pilot reported that it was the second flight of
the day. After an uneventful first flight, the helicopter returned to
the airport to refuel and pick up new passengers. The purpose of the
flight was to hunt game. As the passengers were getting into the
helicopter, a rifle was dropped on the dash of the helicopter which
turned the alt switch, master switch, and clutch switch to off. The
pilot immediately turned the switches back on and conducted a hover
power and final systems check. The helicopter then took off
uneventfully. About 120 ft above the ground, the engine sputtered once
then lost complete power. The pilot performed a left turning
autorotation to a field. During the descent, the pilot increased the
throttle, but the engine did not respond. The helicopter impacted trees
before it landed hard on a small mound of dirt and came to rest nose
low. During the impact sequence, the main rotor blade contacted and
severed the tail boom. The pilot never reported that he conducted the
'˜starting engine and run up' checklist before taking off. This was
confirmed by an onboard video. The video also showed the ignition switch
in OFF throughout the flight, the impact, and following the accident
sequence. During a postaccident engine run, the engine
started uneventfully, and a magneto check was completed. When the
ignition switch was in the right magneto position the engine rpm stayed
the same instead of decreasing, indicating the magneto was not properly
grounding. In addition, the engine continued to run despite the ignition
switch being in the off position, indicating the engine was operating
on one magneto. The ignition switch key was jiggled, manipulated, and
even removed from the ignition switch, but the engine continued to run.
The engine was shut down and electrical continuity was established from
the ignition switch to the magnetos. The magneto grounding wires were
examined and appeared to be properly secured. The wiring was tested with
a volt/ohm meter and functioned normally. The grounding wires were
reinstalled, and the engine was restarted. It operated normally and
several magneto checks were normal. The magnetos were removed for a
functional bench test and disassembly; no anomalies were noted with
either magneto. The ignition switch was also removed, disassembled, and
examined. No anomalies were found. Even though functional and
disassembly tests did not indicate a problem with the magnetos
themselves, the right magneto did not ground appropriately during the
initial engine run. The anomaly was unable to be recreated after the
magneto grounding wires were removed and reinstalled. Because
the pilot did not perform all the required pretakeoff checks to ensure
all the switches were in the correct positions prior to takeoff, the
helicopter took off with the ignition switch in the OFF position. An
undefined issue with the grounding wire caused the right magneto to not
ground and allowed the helicopter to operate with the ignition in the
'off' position. The magneto likely grounded during the initial climb,
and since the ignition switch was in the OFF position, the engine shut
down. Probable Cause: The pilot's inadequate pretakeoff checks
which resulted in the magneto switch (key) remaining in the OFF
position during the takeoff sequence and initial climb and the right
magneto grounding intermittently.
Well that was a long read. I managed to eat a snack read a book and take a 15 mins nap thanks bud
@@flexusanm That's how investigation reports read. For those that understood it, it was very informative.
@@bolohawaii3087Insane amount of detail but it makes sense that there is that much for such a critical situation as this was or could have been (and to prevent them in the future).
Illustrates the importance of process.
Sucks to be that pilot. Checklists are important!, But I can see how you would not think about the ignition switch since the engine is running.
Let’s talk about the elephant in the room, those boys are not supposed to park that helicopter there!
That's not a crash.
That's a perfect landing in a full-down engine failure. 10/10 for that pilot, right there.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...especially in a chopper.
I caught this via a link from LiveLeak where it said the pilot 'had some explaining to do'. Yeah, like how did you stay so cool and land that thing with everyone safe? Well done to him!
@@19Ron66 yeah he left the mags off and therefore it’s his fault it crashed.
@@joshuaburdette5531 doesn't change the fact he did an amazing job landing that helicopter
@@joshuaburdette5531 so it should’ve never happened?
After the crash landing, the cameraman neatly places the headset back over the seatback. His mama raised him with manners
@@HobbyOrganist Actually, feral hogs are destructive to crops and these hunts are necessary to keep their population in check.
@@HobbyOrganist Please research the topic before opening your mouth. You're making a fool out of yourself.
@@HobbyOrganist it's not supposed to be hard or sportsmanlike, the point is to kill as much of them as quickly as possible. I would recommend you to research the topic on the wild pigs and the damage that they cause.
@@HobbyOrganist yeah you’re right , we don’t need ignorant people like you
@@HobbyOrganist you'r a fool.
They congratulated the pilot for getting them down alive, but I wonder how they felt once they heard he'd lifted without turning the Mags on, in other words, a crash-landing caused by his evident reckless pre-flight check? 2:02 He goes to switch off the Mags and realises he's balls'd up, hence his sheepish sigh.
"One hell of a fucking pilot" that didn't follow a preflight checklist
I just watched people survive a helicopter crash carrying loaded AR-15s better than me surviving a scooter accident when i was 5
lmao
crazy especially bc ar15 is so dangerous and usually goes off when the stock is hit "it happens all the time in basic training "
@Thecarkid 11 lol it was a joke did u ever see that clip of the leader of nfac ar 15 demonstrating how a ar 15 "works"
Welcome to Texas lol
To be fair,if your scooter lost power at the top of a big hill,I think you'd do just as well as this pilot did here.
The hogs: “EMP deployment successful. Ladies and gentleman, we got em”
this killed me hahaha
Noice
Theyre exiting their vehicle, ATTACK!!! oink oink 🐷🐷🐷
Woo pig
Lmfao. . Settle down Obama!!
Props (pun intended) to the pilot. Made an error or had a failure that put it in the dirt but managed to recover enough in that half a second or so to autorotate and land without rolling it or going into an uncontrolled decent. Guy had like 5 seconds to make it work and he did a damn fine job, then made sure everyone was safe.
A very calm "Yep, now this is happenin'" vibe in that chopper
“You’re one hell of a fucking pilot”
Can’t say that enough.
Did a good job of handling the auto rotation, did a bad job of turning the mags on
@@smudent2010 I’m speculating based on the mags that I can see are turned off
@@factorypilot99 you can't start your engine without magnetos
@@smudent2010 if you have a bad ground on ur mag switch it will run.
@@smudent2010 you can see him realize his mistake when he goes to shut the mags off after the crash
Him texting his wife afterwards:
"Almost died in helicopter crash LOL anyway how's your day going?"
i bet the wife said "see,you go do something boring and make a drama out of it".lol
All joking aside, my missus has an obsession with the Air Crash Investigation programs and her dream job would be a crash investigator. If I text her and told her I was in a plane/heli crash she would honestly be jealous!
Busy having sex with a real man who doesn’t hunt for sport.
@@redbluesome2829 lmao ❄️❄️❄️❄️
I work at a gun range, "some dude pointed a loaded gun at my gut lol"
Based on the NTSB report mentioned in the comments, the pilot failed to perform proper pretakeoff checks which resulted in the magneto switch (key) remaining in the off position during the takeoff sequence and initial climb and the right magneto grounding intermittently. This pilot is being praised for his landing in these comments but if he didn’t have the forward airspeed he did, this crash would’ve likely killed or badly injured those on board. This crash is his fault, through snd through. Do your pre checks from a-z and don’t skip a damn corner or things like this happen. Luck with a tad bit of skill is what happened here. Not a “fantastic pilot”.
"Well at least we can walk back to the airport."
This pilot's so cool, "sorry bout that boys, everyone alright. "
How’s that even cool bro ?🤦🏽♂️
My bad dawg... enjoy the refreshments at the crash site Kraft crevices table
@@jasonguti928
It’s cool because the pilot’s first concern is the passengers health, and then apologizes for the crash. (We don’t know why it went down, but I suspect mechanical trouble).
No panicking, no rage or anger, just pure professionalism.
@@Name-ps9fx that is what they train for. Folk don't realize it but most training for flying is training to stay alive. And that is a fact. Kind of like heavy haul truck drivers in a way. It's mostly about safety. Working safely gets old. But so do those who practice it ! The pilot knew what he was doing. He flew the thing instead of letting it fall out of the sky.
Irene!!!
As my instructor told me: any landing where your pax and you can walk away is a safe landing. The rest is covered by insurance.
Your instructor had some terrible grammar.
What?
@@DracoPadilla nah the grammar is fine. Maybe a couple commas could be added to help people that cant read, like you.
@@duncanmcgee13 “can’t”
Not sure what's most impressive, the pilot's skills and the safe landing or the fact that not one person started screaming like an idiot during the entire ordeal.
You only hear and see people screaming in the movies. That is a fact not fiction.
@@flycatchfulapparently, you've never heard of Tik Tok. Videos on there every day of wake turbulence and people screaming like idiots over a slightly bumpy ride. these guys were watching themselves crash and not a sound.
Fellow R44 heli pilot here. Excellent landing. Flying in the "coffin zone" and recovering. Excellent work!!!!
Someone hasn't bothered to read the report.
@@svn5994 im just saying the landing was exemplary, not the handling of the magneto switch
“Hey mom just survived a helicopter crash, still going hunting love you”
"You're one hell of a fucking pilot."
Well said sir. He's likely the reason you are still breathing. His quick reaction and proper response really saved the day! Glad I saw this video.
If you look closely, the pilot actually took off with the magneto key in the "off" position. The engine's ignition system was doomed to fail sometime and the pilot did not do his proper pre-flight checklist
@@MattRogersdesigns oh snap 😳
@@MattRogersdesigns still landed the bitch what’s your point
@@MattRogersdesigns Could he lose his licence for that ?
@@staracer9414 point is that therefor the poilot should never have even been in the accident
It's not the worst parking I've ever seen. I'm glad you are all okay.
My assumption is a bad P-lead on the mags. NTSB report says this was the 3rd flight of the day so engine was most likely already warm and didn’t require a prime to start back up before this accident. The pilot failed to do a mag check after start up which resulted in the mag switch being set to off position instead of both. With a faulty P-lead the engine with still spark. I guess that with the vibration of the engine caused the lead to get a proper connection and cause the engine to quit since the key was in the off position. One thing that could’ve been done to prevent this is if the pilot followed his checklist after starting and before taking off (at least checking all components that are required to be on before take off. Make sure mixture is fully in, Mags are set to both, Engine and rotor RPM needles are matched, etc)
Good landing though. Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. One thing that could’ve been improved is once the engine failed he dropped the collective which is what you want to do in this situation but he pitched forward to try and gain airspeed which made him loose his rotor RPM which is why the Low Rotor horn was buzzing the entire way down. Great job turning left and away from the wires, they are a death sentence.
Overall 9/10 on the landing (only one thing could’ve been fixed but at least everyone made it out)
0/10 on the post-startup/pre-takeoff checks, this entire thing could’ve been prevented if that key was caught before takeoff. At that point if they key was in the off position and I was the PIC and seen that with the engine still running that would be pull the mixture and have maintenance come take a look at it and determine and fix what is wrong because the engine shouldn’t be able to run at all with the key set to off or even start in the first place.
Why is the copter even allow it self to take off without an audible alert of some type to the OFF condition ?
Well I am sorry to cancel your armchair NTSB license but your comment aged like milk.
“Sorry about that boys” so Texas.
I know right, like he spilled their coffee
I love my State! 🤠🤠
Yes must be texas. I see AR15's grow in the wild, they landed next to one.
@@LordGryllwotth 😂😂😂
😂
"I survived a helicopter crash"
you just joined a very exclusive club
If only Kobe would’ve been in that club
@@senddeee1451 lmao damn dude
"I survived a helicopter crash, UNINJURED"
you just joined a VERY-VERY exclusive club
INDEED!
I remember when i was in a crash. we were taking off to pick up some air assault guys and do training. we came to a hover just after getting clearance and lost our tail rotor. Pilot autorotated 20 feet down hard. Blew out the hydraulics on the main landing gear and cracked the mountings for the transmission. I Didn't quite make it back to my seat and ended up with a fractured hip. But other than a few broken bones everyone was alright.
This turned from an average day to a scenario from black hawk down
the only way that pilot could've done anything better, was if he landed right on top of a hog
What he could of done was do preflight checks, he was out of fuel..
@@SgtPickledic well, after doing some research on it and looking at the video a little more carefully (hey you're ruining my joke! lol), you're correct about the preflight, BUT fuel wasn't his problem... He was flying with mags in the OFF position, which can be seen clearly in the video right at the beginning at the 0:04 sec mark, and also right after the landing at the 1:52 mark. The wiring for the mags obviously had an issue as the P-lead ground(s) obviously weren't grounding on takeoff, but then decided to ground in flight. He realized his mistake after landing when he reached down to turn off the mags and saw that it was already in the off position. So yeah, PREFLIGHT! He screwed up. But he did autorotate quite well.
BROOOOOO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ur an idiot
@@ratmousebastard What is "Mags" and what does that do?
Hogs are evolving, they now have the Hogfors 80mm AA.
Planet of the hogs baby.
😂😂😂
Underrated comment haha
hah
So great description of what happened to the helo thanks for the info. 🤦🏻♂️
I can't believe how gentle the crash was. Seconds before impacting the ground, I thought it was going to be very violent with blades hitting the Earth & shredding apart and a broken cockpit.
Helicopter crashes in movies: *Huge explosion. Fire. Destruction.*
Helicopter Crash in real life: "Sorry bout' that boys"
Coulda been much worse if he didn’t autorotate in time
This pilot takes his flight training serious, 12 seconds from loss of power to being on the ground.
Well done!👏👏👏
I love your pfp 🤣🤣😍
Eehh no, the fireball and destruction is quite real. I investigate them for a living.
Oh really? Remember what happened to Kobe?
Pilot should have said this looks like a good spot to hunt.
AhaHahahhahahahaha yeah man
LMFAO 😂
I’m dying 😵 🤣🤣😂
I completely agree
Hahahahaha! Good one!. "well you guys bagged so much were gonna have to hump it out!"
We just crash-landed the chopper guys
Pilot - "Everybody alright?"
Passengers - "yup"
Pilot - "Perfect!!" 💀
Everyone thanking the pilot. Meanwhile he’s the one who forgot to switch tank feeds.
I love how everyone on the copter was calm during the whole deal and even after the crash. These are the guys I want to hang out with when the things go south.
Pun intended?
not to sound sexist but notice how there were no females
Men and mostly likely conservative, so yep.
@@rankmedia5071 That's why there was no wailing....
Would suck to have one of those squealing women in a situation like this
Somewhere in TX there is a camoed hog sporting a helo tattoo with a line thru it. He's got a rifle and his name is Spambo.
This made me laugh!!
No.
The names "Hambo"
They drew first blood not me!!!
Coffee!!! Right out of my damn nose!!
Great job...you'll tell me all I need to know about you as a pilot during auto
That's what happens when there's an emergency and you're in Dead Man's curve.
That was so controlled till the end where everyone evacuates. Also the handling of the guns, it was never stressful, passengers kept calm all the time and let the pilot work. That situational awareness at all times was astounding. Props to everyone.
Props to everyone except the helicopter
Yes the careless handling of loaded weapons sitting in your lap while you crash land. Anyone who needs to shoot a animal while flying above is a coward and should be butt stroked to the head with his own rifle.
@@avantgarde619 lol, they're just little piggies. It's fun, try it some time. You're way too worked up over what other people are doing.
@@avantgarde619 Texas A&M(please google this school if you don't know who they are) did a study which determined aerial boar hunting to be the most cost effective, and efficient manner of population control of this nuisance species. A lot of the time these guys end up giving away excess meat to soup kitchens and other local social programs.
You ever seen the destruction wild hogs do down in Texas? Until you have, please keep your comments to yourself.
I'm impressed by the complete silence in the cockpit while it was going down. Not even an, "oh s**t!" Props to all for being calm and steady under that situation.
what does yelling do for anyone? i cant stand that shit during fight videos/dashcams when theres always one or two people screaming at the top of their lungs which only adds to the issue at hand. makes my blood boil lol, get a fucking hold of yourself
Try putting a woman there 🤫
@@Bbfishman Have you ever been in a life or death situation? Sure it doesn't help but human's are emotional creatures and lash out when shit goes bad. You can't fault someone for reacting out of instinct in a stressful situation like this one.
Its hard to yell when your stomach is in your mouth.
@@GobanShodan they reacted great in this one....i was talking about people witnessing a fight or witnessing a car accident screaming....or even being involved in a fender bender. they are in no immediate danger and just scream and scream when they have nothing to do with the situation. those are the ones im referring to, not people screaming while they're headed straight at the ground in an airplane or some other truly life threatening situation
The third indicator to the right on the lower roll is manifold pressure meter, which suddenly increase after the low RPM alarm and finally crossed the red line on the meter. Normally, a huge input change of collective pitch level or extreme high collective level can lead to low RPM, but in this case, the low RPM alarm ring before the increase of manifold pressure, which should be caused by malfunction of engine.
"PIGGIES ON THE ROOFTOPS!
FORM A PERIMETER AND WATCH YOUR SECTOR"
If I absolutely had to experience a helicopter crash, that's exactly how I would wish the outcome to be.
No shit lmao 😂
Death traps bro.
Oh, you don't want to die?
@@jvles5123 cars? Tall buildings? Sharp metal poles? Electricity?
You live your whole life scared of the "what if"? If so.... im sorry for you.
Was the pilots fault... Mags were off. Must have been a live mag that grounded out as they took off 🙄
I'm a thousand-hour, instrument-rated private pilot who has had THREE engine failures in single-engine aircraft, and you, sir, are a steely-eyed missile man.
@@JackHudler Can't discount the autorotation, but he never turned the mag switch on. Oops.
@@shanesgettinghandy recips dont run with the mags set to off... period... the fact that the engine was running before and during take off means the ignition switch by definition could not be in off. I hold an A&P...
@@JackHudler The mag switch was obviously broken/intermittent. They are VISIBLY in the off position in flight.
Pause at 0:15. Look up an image of the Raven II panel and compare the switch position. IT WAS OFF. Then read further down in the comments and see how many others are saying the SAME THING.
@@shanesgettinghandy ask me how I know you have never worked on an aviation reciprocating engine. For that engine to have spark, the magnetos have to be in the “both” “left” or “right” position. The mag switch on an aviation recip engine, when set to “off” GROUNDS THE MAGNETOS and GIVES THE SPARK A SHORTER PATH TO GROUND BYPASSING THE SPARK PLUGS. Unless his switch or the p leads to the magnetos were BROKEN. The engine would have never started in the first place. Let alone kept running. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Watching the rotor RPM you can see that pulled up the collective way too early, practicing low level engine failures is definitely a good idea to avoid issues like this
When they said "We wanna larp like we're in Blackhawk Down" the pilot took it seriously.
Engine RPM and manifold pressure dropped like a fucking rock. They were going down one way or another, and the pilot made the safest landing possible given the situation
@@fitzroyfastnet initially down to below atmospheric pressure due to vacuum, then up to match atmospheric pressure once engine has stopped
it's because the key was in the wrong position. not all spark plugs were running
@@fitzroyfastnet I've seen multiple people aswell as pilots comment about the key thing aswell. Apparently it was because he essentially had the heli running at "half" functionality due to the other spark plugs not running. So the engine in turn failed, because of the other sets of spark plugs not running....sadly pilot error. This also explains the immediate"sorry about that boys" after landing since I'm sure right at that moment he knew it was pilot error himself.
Yet he still remained calm, and managed to land safely which is the important thing really. Shit happens.
@@fitzroyfastnet hes flying pretty quick, maybe the pilot not realizing that he had to have his foot twice as far down caused the cylinders that were working to fail somehow such as overheating. just a shot in the dark idk
@@fitzroyfastnet At least one person here knows what they're talking about. Yeah there are two mags for redundancy, redundancy being the keyword. Every airplane/heli should still operate with one magneto just fine (as long as they have two to start with). Right after startup this is a checklist item to make sure each is providing full functionality.
Running with one mag does not make a heli fall out of the sky. An engine failure does.
*Thousands of pigs begin squealing in the distance. Their revenge begins now.*
Just like black hawk down
They must survive wave after wave, until rescue arrives.
Jody alerted the horde
Just like black hawk down
HAHAHAHAHAH
is so weird how slow the blades appear to be moving based off their shadow, you'd think you wouldn't be able to see a shadow
Never fly in a hot air balloon for any reason. And only fly in a helicopter if you’re being rescued.
After executing a low altitude autorotation
“Sorry about that boys.”
“No worries.”
“It’s alright.” 😧😮😬🤠
Sheesh
what does that mean
@@SSJbattousai06 he reacted to the engine dying in time to put it down safely. Otherwise they would have lost all rotor and fallen
Doubling down on the low altitude... I don’t think pilots train to perform autorotation with the added weight of extra passengers.
@@stevedoe1630 There’s an altitude below which an autorotation is unlikely if the engine just quits.
As an instructor pilot, I can say our pilot here made some excellent split second decisions and actions.
Everyone walked away, awesome job!
Any idea about what went wrong?
@@lestersmith7748 I can only think the engine failure may be related to the magneto switch position, but I can't tell and would never make that claim.
As an instructor I always advocate take off into the wind (not sure if that happened here, may have been a slight tail wind), once you hit @35kts, rotate and climb out. As long as your climbout is smooth to 500' AGL and you arrive at 60kt at the same time, you should be well positioned for an engine failure. Looks like this take off was low and fast, and you see the result. Still, given the position he was in, he did a great job trying to save it. Often though, prevention is better than the cure. 500', 60kts. Stay above those 2 numbers and you should be well positioned for an engine out landing.
@@michaelking42 Whatever the cause of the engine “failure”, I agree that the pilot made the best of a bad situation. That said, it appears that he put himself in a position where the outcome could easily have been very different.
Fully loaded Robinson just doesn't have enough ass in the rotor disk to flare hard right before touchdown. They just flex.
@@richardbriscoe8563 Yes, so true.
I wouldn't expect this to happen in the USA where everything is built so perfectly....
"Black hog down, we got a black hog down"
“You’re one hell of a fucking pilot” last moment of the clip
Every pilot can do that
@@scotthamilton3314 nah, the ones who can't are dead
@@scotthamilton3314 kamikaze too?
@@BrettMcNary unfortunately you are correct.
@@scotthamilton3314 tell Kobe’s pilot that. Oh wait
I think the pilot did an excellent job not panicking and everyone else was able to keep level because of him.
Who had time to panic? It was about 2 seconds of crash landing. Now if they were thousands of feet up, they might have reacted differently.
@@jayroller7054 he had time to realize they were heading straight for power lines and turn away while also autorotating at the same time
Mayday mayday mayday
Maybe he did not check the copter properly BEFORE take off
Honestly he shouldn't be flying helicopters with how he was flying that completely avoidable and shouldn't have been flying as aggressively as he did
" Sorry 'bout that boys..." Guy just landed safely after an engine failure and kept his humor. Legend.
"You're one hell of a fuckin' pilot" Not a bad thing to hear after something like this lol
You know what they say any Landing that you can walk away from is a good one
A good pilot would've had them in the air and not on the ground. This is why they are supposed to do safety inspections prior to flying 😂
@@x.adam1 but you actually don't know shitt so you're just talking out your ass right?
@@daffyduck9901 crashing on a resume a thing for you?
@@daffyduck9901 who says that? Name names. Or are you just talking out of your ass cause you don’t know shit?
As far as crashes go. That couldn’t have been better really.
No shit lol
What even happened to cause that tho???!!
@@Jinxx270 Engine failed. You can see RPM drop (1:23) at the top right gauge when left needle went to zero at the main panel (left is engine RPM in %, right is rotor RPM). Can't say what exactly happened since oil and fuel light went on after the engine fail not before.
Watch the mags key position guys 😉 good job on this hot autorotation 👍🏻
@@stehlajz according to someone else in these comments, the pilot had the key turned to the left magneto position instead of both, essentially running the engine at 50% capacity and causing it to fail.
I don’t care how many people say it’s his fault shits hard asl driving and controlling a helicopter. He did an amazing job landing her on the ground with no one harmed !
That’s like saying I did an amazing job steering my car away from traffic in a crash but I put nails in the tire beforehand.
i dont get how this can be his fault if the engine fails.
@@animalm4st3r it didn't fail. They didn't set it up right
@@animalm4st3r the engine failed because the pilot failed to make the most basic checks before takeoff. The engine only did what the pilot told it to that day.
Somewhere there's a hog out there praying to their hogzilla
I've tripped jogging and been more shaken than this helicopter crash lol
I could not stop laughing after I read this lmao
Damn, pilot was apologetic and the hunters were all like "Nah, it's good man"
Helluva landing too. That could have been a lot worse.
It could have been a lot worse but it also could have been a lot better if he would have pulled the collective a little bit sooner there’s a chance he would have been able to save the r44
@@lilpunchy8956 have you ever flown one?
@@lilpunchy8956 you ever pulled the collective a little bit sooner during a helicopter failure?
@@MightyMonty “during a helicopter failure” that’s a new one I’ve never heard
@@Henny39 he obviously means engine failure and yes if you auto rotate correctly you can land a helicopter without damaging it during an angina failure. I'm sure you know this so why are you arguing?
“Sorry about that” like he ran a stop sign
Holy Toledo the tail boom was sliced clean off! That was the infamous Robinson helicopter tail boom strike! I cannot believe this pilot pulled off a landing with NO tail rotor. My God, this is a miracle if there ever was one. The true cause of the crash wasn't evident until the very end of this video clip when the severed tail boom became apparent.
" hey babe just got in a helicopter crash but ill be home for dinner"
But seeing as they didn't find any hogs, there wouldn't be any dinner.
@@thegooddoctor2009 i heard they dont eat those hogs since they're so terribly inedible
Yep,... and she's like, "shit",,!!! 😡🤬,, I'll NEVER get that life insurance 😒🙄money 💰, EVER!!!
@@pipicacadanslepot ya they don’t they cause thousands of dollars in damages to crops and farms so its really just a kill mission
@@pipicacadanslepot wait, what? Why would hogs be inedible? It's pork!
The people who disliked this video do not understand anything about airmanship. Basically no altitude and no time to react and still executes a forced landing perfectly. Great work!
you have people who dislike everything.
.02% of people disliked this video.
Ever think people may have hit Dislike because they disliked that the helo lost power?
I think they were just libs and peta rats who didn’t like the gun and hunting aspect of it. I, honestly, would do just about anything to go on that kind of hog hunt.
@@ziggy3237 peta is so stupid. These people hate hogs getting hunted but don’t realize they will wipe out untold number of other species of plants and animals. Fucking idiots
Pilot ‘recovers’ by hard/crash landing due to their mistake: People unscathed.
Uptight pilots: “HOW DARE THEY DAMAGE THE HELICOPTER”
Good quick thinking pilot. Rotors lost energy fast, especially with the left hand turn. Can only assume twas to avoid powerlines along that stretch of road.
Looked like a good recovery to me. I went down in a UH-1 into the Mekong River. I was the back seat commander of the ground troops for an operation. When all of the red lights came on, instead of just one, I knew it was terminal. And I shut down all talk in the back, knowing he did not need anything on the intercom. We were about 2000ft. to stay above small-arms fire, so I knew he had some leeway. He immediately turned into the wind and auto rotated into the Mekong, just about ten feet from the shore. Perfect spot. We waded out. The crew chief opened the cowl, where the shaft goes to the rear propeller, and the shaft fell off in his hand. He got down and puked. We were that close to a catastrophic failure. The only thing these Texas guys did not do was put out a defensive perimeter in case of being attacked by the Viet Cong - I mean boars. You know. Those wild piggy things.
Nam Vet? Damnnn...
We had excellent pilots in Nam, I built turbines for Huey’s & cobras & test flew each & everyone we worked on the the engine shop. If I wouldn’t get in the chopper we worked on for test flight, the pilot wouldn’t fly it. Every flight involved an autorotation to a small clearing in the bush. Back up & back to the airfield. Great pilots back then!👍🏻
Respect.
Thank you for your service Sir
augs8754 yes as you should
Cause off accident was determined to be a profound lack of fortunate son being played in the cockpit
Following this accident the NTSB issued a recommendation that Fortunate Son must be played in all helicopters during take off and flight bellow 1000ft AGL. With dispensation from the FAA, All Along the Watchtower or Paint it Black can be played instead, if the helicopter is configured for six passengers or fewer.
@@danielrehn81 they should add house of the rising son and for what it’s worth to the list too. I’m glad to see them taking steps though. That’s important
A-fracking-men!
Post traumatic song disorder.
It’s a reference to family guys.
Classic reference!
DUDE, great job captain! that is NOT a bucket list item but you freakin killed it...well done!
So, nothing could possibly be more important than texting just after a crash? Nothing. No fuel leaks to check for. No smoke? He takes off his headphones and starts to text. Ya, brilliant pilot.
Only in Texas can you be involved in a helicopter crash and when the pilot says “sorry guys” the answer back is “it’s alright”.
No
lolwut
Canada too, except they might start drinking beer after they get out of the helicopter
Welcome to Texas
Why the fuck would that be exclusive to Texas?
"I lost my rifle in a helicopter accident"
This comment is underrated! 😂
Lmao better than boating for sure
Nice..
Actual lol
Dam you beat me to it. Said same thing before I saw it....
Anyone else get the vibe that they were mildly annoyed instead of blissful and euphoric LOL?!
"Well we survived, that's good. Now my day's ruined".... haha
Before you pat the pilot on the back realize that he was found at fault by the NTSB for failing to do his pre flight checklist properly.
Pilot was cold as ice throughout the whole situation. Kept everyone safe.
That’s what I was thinking. Chill af!
Yeah, but somewhere else in the comments someone says he was flying with the key in the L position instead of on both (magnetos). I can't tell if that's correct, but if it is then the pilot did not just solve the problem they were in - but caused it, too.....
Did you see the way he avoided the power lines.
@@SolarWebsite MAG was set to Both. If you watch the manifold pressure and RPMs you can see there was a mechanical malfunction that caused him to enter an autorotation. He properly executed a 90 degree turn auto.
@@AndrewS-ht3uo You're wrong. It's blatantly in the OFF position
Here's a high-res photo of the cockpit:
www.helistore.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/img_1188.jpg
"Who had chopper crash on their bucket list" lol texas...
Don’t forget Florida
@@Strickland325 we have been trying for years
Don't for get Ohio
"you're one hell of a fucking pilot" 🤣🤣
Hello from Albany, Oregon.
"You're one hell of a fuckin' pilot" Amen to that brother. Holy shit.
Fuckin-A!
It’s a standard auto. Not exactly a miracle maneuver.
@@fiveoboy01 considering man wasn't meant to fly, any time there's a low altitude failure and everyone walks away, it should be applauded
I’ve had worse crashes on a bike. Shoutout to the pilot
Seriously ! I've had worse on mini bikes lol.
@@inthemountainswithmeachum3256 I think I've had worse stepping off the last step of a flight of stairs.
@@treavormiller9552 I’ve had worse from trying to stand up after sitting on the toilet for 45 minutes
didnt ask
AMEN!! LOL!!
No one said magic word: "Shit !"
I can’t get over how cool the pilot is. He acts like he’s done this a thousand times.
He even smiled 🙂
"You're one hell of a f$%* pilot"😂😂 right at the end
I've been flying helicopters for 42 years, I would like to congratulate the colleague for the excellent and precise maneuver. Perfect job!
Congrats!!
👏👏👏👏👏
Nice flying.
I second the congratulations. Hardest thing for a helicopter pilot to do is keep the collective down. Nicely done.
You know what they say about a landing that you can walk away from... 🤘
Just goes to show how fast it can happen! Pilot did an awesome job!!
By any chance have you flown an R44? Could you confirm the mag switch looks to be in the Off position at the beginning of the video? Also at 1:59 during the shutdown he tries to turn the key to off, but it is already seems to be in that position.
In a Robinson helicopter, everyone is a passenger.
You win the internet. Great job sir.
Facts
Guess you aren't a helicopter pilot 🤣
the engine failed, this would be a lycoming or maintenance or preflight issue, not a robinson issue. In fact, the helicopter held up fantastically well given how bad the pilot's autorotation was.
@@dylanpowell2307 haha clearly, you aren't a pilot either. Robinson helicopters have an outstanding safety record when flown in accordance with their design parameters and with proper knowledge of their limitations. Part 135 operations do have more substantial maintenance requirements but mechanical failure isn't the main cause for crashes in any helicopter, including robinsons. You see more robinsons crash because there are about 10x more of them in use than any other aircraft, they're used in almost all training operations, and they're cheap so private owners fly them mostly which lends to pilot errors and simply more flight hours being the cause of a higher incident ratio.
That being said, after watching this video closely, this was pilot error. The key is in the "L" position at 1oclock when it should be in "both" position at 5oclock. This has to do with the magnetos which give power to the spark plugs which makes them run. The pilot was essentially running only half the spark plugs, something that should only occur during a failure and only to land right away.
This was pilot error and not the aircraft in any way. 👍🏻
Signed, someone that knows way more than you.
Super six 1 we going down we going down
Command : we got hogs approaching
Command: send QRF WE GONNA HAVE hogs on that helicopter by morning
Pilot knew the assignment. Used autorotation to make a safe landing.
Everyones just super chill about a heli crash, real hunters and pilots indeed.
@@tristancervantes1855 not like its going to grow legs and go shoot someone.
@@tristancervantes1855 if you dropped a rifle from tabletop height it would've probably sustained more damage than this rifle. It was basically only shaken a little, nothing that would alter the gun in such a way to randomly shoot
@@tristancervantes1855 love how you say before you say anything dumb and then spit absolute bs.
Yup, real hunters. Using a high powered rifle and a helicopter to gun down 4 legged mammals. Some tough southern types right there. Think they got rejected from the military.
@@tristancervantes1855 lol im saying dumb shit. Im a volunteer firefighter and have pulled guns out of multiple houses that have burnt down or are burning down. Most the time the bolt is welded in place from the heat and anything not steel has melted or burned away. But lets say this gun survived, if you are dumb enough to use a firearm after its been in extreme heat like a house fire you deserve a Darwin. Heat stretches and substantially weakens steel, at that point you are far more likely to have the gun randomly explode when firing. If you need to see what happens when a gun explodes while firing watch Kentucky ballistics on youtube. Guns have had negligent discharges from falling but its incredibly rare, and when that happens its going to be right when it hits the ground because an internal component has to break, its not going to happen after its on the ground. It would then be the same odds of it having a negligent discharge as if it never fell. Ive dropped guns from treestands higher than what the helicopter was flying and never had one discharge.