funniest part is when it's fans of teams who are ranked like 28th when they feel they should be 21st as if anyone is putting that much thought into their trash teams season LMAO
@@yelsu3358 I, too, thoroughly enjoy the discourse that can be summarised as "you said we would miss the playoffs by a mile and we missed the playoffs by 1000 yards, who is the expert now, huh?" Deeply entertaining.
Bengals in tier 3 and yet didn’t merit a second of analysis apparently. Only mention of any player was Burrow, and this was to be someone to compare C J Stroud with in the latter’s second season.
It’s all fun and games but this Ravens disrespect is going to age like milk in just a few months. Ppl are vastly underrating how good their offense is going to be this year that will far offset any step backs they take in defensive ranking. Even if they go from giving up 16 PPG to 18-19 PPG that’s hardly going to matter when their offense is scoring 35 PPG because opposing defenses have no answer for combo of speed of Lamar and power and speed of Henry and #1 passing attack in league against loaded boxes.
@@DylanW3 They beat the brakes off 3 teams ppl keep putting ahead of them. A few months from now it will be obvious why it’s disrespect when they are one of the most dominant teams in NFL history
Note for Mina, the Lions was third in pass completions over 20 yards and the third in pass yards. For some reason you've been saying 31st but when I went to comment the comments were off so I thought I would put it here for you. Their only weak spot was pass defense which day fixed this year, they will be unstoppable.
3:55 "I do think these three teams are better than the Ravens because they've proved more." Do you mean after the Ravens destroyed the 49ers on Christmas or beat the Lions ?
I'm a lions fan and you guys SMOKED us last year. It was our worst loss by a mile. And when you guys beat the 9ers, I thought you were going the whole way and started rooting for you guys on the AFC side. And then I was so disappointed in Lamar. It was like he lost all that confidence. I think having Henry will take pressure off of him, but that fall off at the end of the season was big.
@@SeanMog Our team just isn't built to throw the ball in the playoffs the way we need to. In the regular season it works, but Lamar still had to be our leading rusher. He needs to play better, but by the same token, it's easy to forget that he's playing for an organization that has historically cared as little about the passing game as any in the league. Heck, it was like pulling teeth for him to get a new OC and them to actually spend half on a WR that you guys just spent on St. Brown. They're slowly getting there. This year, we're going to feature Andrews and Likely on the field together. Now, we have NOTHING behind Zay Flowers and that's a concern, but Lamar's second year in Monken's offense should help.
@@segagenesis7708 “had the Ravens beaten the Chiefs”. But that’s the thing, the Ravens didn’t even put up a fight. Maybe the Ravens match up well against the Niners, but the Niners clearly matchup better against KC as shown by their last two Super Bowl matchups.
Texans and Packers being so high and the only explanation being "the past doesn't define us" is kind of insane no? Especially the Texans who now have to play a 1st place schedule after going 10-7 playing a 4th place schedule
@@joedawg713 They had one of the easiest schedules in the league and barely won most games against bad competition. Not saying theyre a horrible team but theyre not a top 5 team by far.
I one-hundred percent agree. I watch the NFC North and the attention the Packers are getting is insane. They were 9-8 last year and beat an overrated/ underperforming Dallas team in the playoffs. Like Houston, the Packers aren't going to surprise anyone this year. Both teams better make sure they took care of any and all growing pains in the offseason if they want to have the same success this year.
They deserve credit, but people forget that the Jags were running that division and were 3 games ahead of the Texans before Trevor Lawrence got injured. Their division is very competitive too, so people like always don't want to take it step by step.
I have to say; I am not a follower but I saw that Chris was in this and it pulled me in. I just finished cutting the grass and sat down on the patio to relax and decided to watch this. I dig the teir aspect; each different teir I was yelling out my pick (obviously didn't realize how loud) and my son comes out and asked if something was wrong... I dug the knowledge, I dug the insight, I dug the back and forth. Well done to the both of you.
Ravens: bash the lion, 49ers, texans, and everyone but the actual superbowl champions, but always have the "most to prove" against teams that have not proven anything more 🙄
We need the team to show up in the playoffs, they changed their whole game plan last year in the postseason and abandoned the run, and gave fuel to the fire of them being regular season reapers like the Cowboys
The Ravens will always have "more to prove" than everyone else. High expectations, lower rankings. One would think the team you have a high expectations for would be highly ranked.
Last year the Ravens were the better team.....however, this is the power rankings for the upcoming season. The Ravens lost 3/5ths of their starting offensive line, which by itself could result in them tumbling way down the power rankings over the course of the season. I honestly think the losses on the oline should have them in the 2nd tier & the Texans additions should have them in their place.
Bills should be "unburdened" cuz, as good as Diggs could be - and I salute him and wish him well - I do not miss him. Coleman, Samuel, 2 awesome tight ends, Cook out of the backfield: Bills unleashed! Drama is a bag of bricks - all you gotta do is just, let it go.
Black tax. Always remember because his dribble makes no sense you talk about the first game of the season but don’t talk about how the Ravens wiped the floor with both teams
@Sportsguy0258 It's not a black tax they have the chiefs 1 only because of Mahomes. They have the ravens last because they choke every year in the playoffs. It's called a post season tax no one cares what happens in the regular season if you choke the minute you get into the playoffs.
@@jacobkemp7050 There is still one even on Mahomes because it wasn’t until he won 2 MVPs and 2 rings did ppl say he was on tier of his own. They used to say Allen and Burrow were on same tier when neither had an MVP or ring. In fact it was QB rankings where Mahomes wasnt even top 2 QB on NFL official website headed into 2022 season
The Ravens destroyed the Lions and 49ers, so i don’t think the logic of “they didn’t show it in the playoffs” when they lost to the number one team, and the lions lost in that same round.
the Ravens slander continues every offseason no matter what. His own logic was "the Lions and 49ers have proved more" and yet they got straight dogwalked by the Ravens.
The Bills beat KC in the regular season every year and then lose to them in the playoffs every year as well. It's a consolation prize to get knocked out by the best team every year.
And the lions so where's your logic. The Lions didn't match up well against the Ravens MVP quarterback and had a terrible game but they have fixed their weak spots with the draft and the offseason. They have no weak spots this year and will cruise to a Super Bowl
@@jerrythor6102 Where's this arrogant "logic" coming from? You realize the Lion's organization has failed for 94 years since it was formed in 1930. "Cruise to a superbowl", "no weak spots"? You're coming up on your 100-year anniversary and you have zero superbowl appearances. Please revert to humility, or just stay silent.
@@jdajayi92the lions before last year had been the laughing stock of the NFL & they were inches away from the super bowl, the ravens in the lamar jackson era hadn’t been close until last year & even with the AFC championship game in their building, they still lost. they have a ton to prove, a H2H matchup in week 6 doesnt negate what happened in the course of the whole season my friend
Mina, I absolutely love your takes and I do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, the fact of the matter is that the Ravens absolutely skull dragged the Niners and Lions. Yet Chris placed them above the Ravens? Last season the Ravens opened up a can of whup ass and totally dominated and embarrassed the Niners in their house in Prime Time. They beat the Lions like they were a dirty rug that had not been cleaned in years. 🤣🤣🤣 KC deserves to be ranked #1. Ravens lost to KC by 7 in the AFC ship due to the worst game plan in modern NFL history. The only other coaching snafu that made me feel that pissed off was Pete Carroll's bone headed call to throw the ball instead of letting Beast Mode run it down the Pats throat on the goal line. Until the Niners and the Lions prove they can beat the Ravens, I am not buying that BS.
We should be used to it by now lol nothing new brother I honestly think we should be in the flawed but feisty group which isn't really a hot take bucs roster this year is a lot better than most of these people think.
No its not. They are stacked everywhere and have only improved. They have a top 3 draft every year and have stars coming into season 2-3 all over the team. The Lions are legit and its “insane” to keep saying otherwise. Its ignorant and delusional.
Not even a Ravens fan but the idea that they’re at 4 is asinine. They lost to the Chiefs, a team that the 49’s also lost to and the Lions lost to the 49’s. Not to mention the Ravens took apart both the Lions and 49’s in the regular season. Head scratching. Take.
We went through this last year too. The Ravens destroyed everyone not named the Chiefs. 49ers by 2 touchdowns, Lions by 32. Seahawks by 34. Dolphins by 37. Texans by 16 in the regular season and then by 24 in the playoffs. They have the least to prove of that group. There is literally only one team in their way. As someone else in the comment section said. You can't take one head-to-head matchup into account without taking others.
@@jacobkemp7050 They just made the AFC Championship Game last year. That's what this discussion is about. They played a team that many thought would beat them in the Divisional Round and they beat them by three touchdowns. They just lost to the Chiefs.
I like that you guys are overlooking the Bengals so much you didn’t even bother talking about them. It’s not just you, it’s the entire NFL media ecosystem. The chip on the Bengals’ shoulders will be so big they’ll have to duck to get into the stadium.
@@TheJimnjas I hope both quarterbacks stay healthy all year so we can end this conversation. I know Joe Burrow is better, but it will help everybody to see it.
@@SnBheyrodBurrow has beating a Ravens team once when Lamar was healthy and that was only when they had half the I team injured. Bengals won the division in 21 because Lamar got injured, they won it in 22 because once again Lamar got injured. Burrow had one magical SB run and no one will let that shit go
Absolutely wild to have the eagles in the top ten then put the Bucs, or should I say the team that beat them in the playoffs, out of the top 15 and 10 spots behind them! Also Atlanta most overrated team this offseason watch, they’re under sized at receiver and TE and won’t be able to block any run scheme outside the tackles, not to mention they did basically nothing to address their league worst pass rush win ratio.
@@michaellaroche3418 true last year I think Vegas had us at like 3.5 wins and a lot of the “analyst” were taking the under having us at like three wins. Can’t wait to see our offense shock people with Godwin back in slot and upgraded o-line. Also think Mcmilan is about to show out for his rookie year and Cancey takes a huge step.
@@Thomas-nk4uj Yup unless Brady suits up for us again we are irrelevant in the eyes of the national media unfortunately but they'll find out again this season this team is a lot better than people think I'm not saying their are a juggernaut or anything but their a lot better than last year
I know it’s silly to complain about a top 4 ranking but having the Ravens under the Lions is a trash take. I mean they completely shit on the Lions and 9ers. I get the 9ers being up since they made it to bowl but to be fair they play the significantly weaker conference. So Ravens at 4 is just not it for me.
Great convo to listen to while I'm here at work. Love that he has Lions over 9ers. They were handling them last year until they finally reverted to their old ways in the 2nd half. I think they take another step this year though. Hard to count the Chiefs out but I don't think they get 3 straight. I'll take Lions over Texans in the SB LIX.
The ravens beat the Lions and 49ers collectively by 50 points. It’s not like these teams didn’t play. This is what I wish people would push back on. Like all 3 of these teams played.
@@Sportsguy0258 I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?.. Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
@@Sportsguy0258 I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?.. Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
@@thewizardofoz511 I believe every off season we have to hear how The Ravens have taken a step back and some other team is going to rise and every year it couldn’t be further from the truth.
@@Sportsguy0258 I think that's the way it is cuz ESPN and national media has put their chips and all the baskets for the last two or three years on the Ravens when it comes to the playoffs and the Ravens has made ESPN look like a joke.. so now I believe national media ESPN is tired of being made look like a joke by pick the Ravens that high and now just keeping the Ravens on the back burner because they know they're talented but at the same time I don't think they have confidence in the Ravens at this moment of getting over the hump.. and they don't believe the Ravens had done enough to thread the needle this past offseason to do just that.. they believe the other teams have though..
@@Sportsguy0258 you already know ESPN is a prideful Network.. and hate being proven wrong!.. or being made to be looked like a fool.. and I believe that's what's going on with them and the Ravens 🤷
I really only watch nfl content to hear Lions takes and let me tell you I was SHOCKED when Chris put us at 2 in the top tier. Pleasantly shocked, but shocked nonetheless
Giants being last is crazy. Not saying they will be great or anything but they’re at the very least a tier above the worst teams (come on Washington and Carolina?). They were 6-11 last year with a lot of injuries
You don’t know ball. You don’t know the Lions roster. You don’t know dudes like Barnes, Iffy, Kerby, Alim, Levi and Cambell on defense. Top 5 offense again and a top 10 defense and top 2 run defense. You don’t know ball.
The Lions plugged their holes with DJ Reader, Carlton Davis, Terrion Arnold, Ennis Rakestraw, and Marcus Davenport. They arguably got better than any other team and they were absolutely a top 5 team last year. They very well could win the Super Bowl this year.
Mina is criminally low on the Chargers. They arguably haven’t gotten any worse. They’ve improved in areas like O Line, RB, TE, Edge, LB, and coaching. Last year they lost 7 games by less than one score, and 6 of those games were playoff teams by a field goal (Dolphins, Cowboys, Lions, Packers, Bills, Chiefs). This includes games that Easton Stick was starting. Ekeler was dealing with an injury all year, and Mike Williams on IR since week 4. People wanna say the WR room took a huge step down, but they made the playoffs in 2022 starting Josh Palmer and Deandre Carter for several games while both Keenan and Mike missed large portions of the season. They don’t need big names at WR. Go back to Herbert’s rookie year and he’s throwing 40 yard TDs to Jalen Guyton and Tyron Johnson. If I remember correctly, since Herbert entered the league his run game has been 25th, and defense ranked 28th while having a top 7 pass game. There’s no way the run game and defense is going to be that bad under Harbaugh, Roman, and Minter. I conservatively think they’re in the top 12-15 range. -Crazed Chargers fan
As a Chargers fan...Who cares? Chargers have been overrated as a team, by media for 3or 4 years now. We do not need or want the hype. They just need to win
Chargers is a blind spot for Mina still, she doesnt see how the egalitarian style offense will work through Edwards/Dobbins, then McConkey and Johnston/Hurst. She''s smart, she'll come around
Very cool; I watch Green Light regularly, but dig the fact that you let Chris geek out on football. I always dig his insight, and after this I also dig your insight. I will definitely watch more down the road...
The Lions are riding on Emmual Mosely, Amik, Rakestraw or Arnold as their CB2. Also Mina I’m just going to tell you now, you’re drastically underrated the Lions Defense. They will be top 10 in all categories this year. Derrick Barnes, Kerby, Cambell, Branch, Alim, Levi, Hutch, Iffy are all taking a jump this year.
As a lions fan I never thought I'd see a time when the lions were talked about as one of the best teams in the nfl. I will always be a lions fan, but i have never been more proud to be one now.
Just so we're clear: Baltimore is ranked behind the KC because they lost to them, which is fair; however, being ranked behind SF and Detroit when Baltimore embarrassed them both last season is hilarious. You can't weigh one head-to-head matchup against the Ravens without taking the other two into account. Detroit should be behind Baltimore as long as one has a two-time MVP and the other has a poor man's Matt Ryan.
It’s really disrespect first and foremost for Lamar who ppl act like he needs a #1 ranked defense to win when his teams historically score 2nd most points in history per game behind Mahomes with a chance to overcome Mahomes for 1st. It’s also disrespect for the impact Derrick Henry is going to make on their offense. This is going to be the highest scoring offense Lamar has ever had and the 2019 team scored 33 PPG. Ravens could clearly afford to give up 2 to even 4 more PPG. It’s also disrespect for Roquan Smith and their infrastructure defensively by vastly overrating Mike MacDonald impact on their defense that has been ranked top 10 18 of the last 25 years with well over half a dozen defensive coordinators. Their unit with MacDonald along with PQ were both subpar before the Roquan Smith trade he is the force multiplier.
Did they play in the playoffs or regular season? 2 totally different games. Ravens are elite in the regular season, but are average in the playoffs. Lions are a far better playoff team reason for the rankings.
Baltimore is not ranked behind KC because they lost to them. Everyone is behind KC because the Chiefs have by far the best player in the game, and they’ve won 7 straight playoff games.
I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?.. Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
The only teams i would swap would be Seattle with Indy, LAC with Chicago, and move the Bucs up to Flawed but Feisty. Other than that, Mina and Chris did a great job.
Ravens beat the 9ers WITHOUT Andrews. The ‘23 49ers are better than the ‘24 Lions. Losing the AFCCG doesn’t mean the Lions are now better. Great team, but no.
@@anthonysclafani3963 I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?.. Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
@@josiahbumbray9552 so with knowing that information do you think Lions fans feel better about their chances of winning the Super Bowl, .. the same.. or worst knowing what you know how Detroit people/fans think?
@@josiahbumbray9552 ... Just testing you to see how well you really know Detroiters... Because if you don't know Detroiters you DEFINITELY don't know the Lions 😂.. I have never seen a team in pro Sports take on the identity of their fan base than that team
I don’t really like to or feel the need to talk bad about the Lions as a Ravens fan, but I don’t totally understand how they’ve “proven more” by blowing a 17 point lead in the NFC championship game
The national press hates the Bucs…. Beating higher ranked teams, hanging with Detroit and getting better in the offseason seems to have no effect on analysts.
Being a Steelers fan realist! I agree with the sector you have them at! Good team in that 500 club but to win a playoff game or 2 they gotta have the chips fall their way! Gotta stay healthy and win them close games! The schedule is brutal!
Keep the Bills disrespect coming. Can't wait to see what Josh does with 6 viable WR 2 insane TEs, 2 amazing RBs with different playstyles, a wealth of LARGE redzone targets, and no divas crying for the ball causing Allen to force it to him. We currently have 9 countem NINE pass catchers on our roster who are 6'4. If you don't think that will cause teams headaches to cover guys that size in the red zone while Josh Allen is always a threat to just run it in - I want some of what you're smoking.
@@TheWagnasty Dalton Kincaid had 73 receptions for 673 yards as a ROOKIE TE. Cook had 1,122 rushing yards with another 445 receiving yards. Knox is a redzone monster. Ray Davis will be a great change of pace from Cook.
Raiders might be great on defense, and better than average offense. Most likely a wildcard team as they get used to Getsy's offense, and all of their young players blossom. It's the following season where they'll go for the whole thing.
Just a note on the Steelers. They did go 5-1 against the AFC north last year. Beating Baltimore twice. If Russell Wilson tosses #'s like he did in Denver last year, this team could really beat out expectations. The D will do their thing, and they brought in some key players, esp Patrick Queen who should allow Minkah to go back to doin Minkah things. I wouldnt sleep on the Raiders. The Defense is good, Max Crosby a beast. The Offense has some great weapons. If Minshew plays like he did last year, or O'Connell takes a step forward, they could be a very dangerous team. Remember they beat KC on Christmas last year.
@@nistic5723 Steelers have beaten Ravens 8 outta last 9 times, and Lamar has only beaten a Duck Hodges led Steelers his rookie year. I stand by my statement.
Sigh....didnt even talk about the bucs but put them mid. Won last 3 division titles Have almost all starters back and upgraded o line. You all are nuts.
Mina you’re being so disrespectful to the colts, a team that was 15 yards away from hosting a playoff game, with their backup qb, and their schedule is probably even easier this year than last year 🤦♂️
As a Bills fan its obviously the Chiefs and then everybody else. As a Homer i believe in Josh of course. He is a beast. If i was Ravens fan i would believe in Lamar because he is a beast. If i was a Bengals fan i would believe in Joe because he is a beast. The NFL is at an all time high for Quarterbacks. It's like being a fan of almost any team you have hope in your quarterback. Go Bills!
Hey there, is by chance is Chris drunk? If not drunk he sounds like you've had a few anyways, it's too bad because I'm I enjoy his show, I very much like your show as well.
Hello Mina, Chris, seems to deal with two types of people, people who he doesn't respect, and and/or people that he very much respects. Ahhaaaa... 27:03
When he said the Ravens have a lot to prove, I was willing to listen. When he said they have the most to prove of those four teams, that's when I rolled my eyes. They were the best team, in the best division, in the best conference, pretty much until they ran into the Chiefs in the playoffs.
And they beat the crap out of the Lions last year! I get this part of what he was saying: offseason moves. The Lions improved themselves in the offseason while the Ravens probably lost more than they gained. Also, the Ravens are completely rebuilding their O-line, and that's a scary area to have questions about. Those are solid reasons to project other teams ahead of the Ravens. But saying the Lions have "proven" more than the Ravens have, sounds very weird.
Lamar has won 2 games in the playoffs in his whole career.... Goff won 2 last year alone and has been to a SB. Lamar and the Ravens need to prove they can win more then 1 game in the playoffs against a team thats not in the AFC South.
Its a ranking of how they think they will perform next season - not how they performed last season. Teams rise and fall faster in the NFL more than in any other sport. Dont be so shocked and listen. Id like to think Chris has more NFL experience than you
@@nistic5723 lets say they top of the bottom 15. If the majority of the top 15 in the NFC then you telling me they are a playoff team. Welcome to the bandwagon
Love this Chris is the only one that has the balls to say what we know is true the Lions got way better than the 49ers and he is not just giving it to the 49ers as second best, like everyone else including you. Sorry but not sorry to say it
Did you even look at the names for the tiers? They aren’t legacy, they had a terrible record last year, and they won a Super Bowl really recently, so they don’t have a bad past. They are in the correct tier, you just value the tiers differently
She literally said these are the teams who have been good for 4 to 5 years which should include the rams for the 3rd tier who. Legacy admission both the coach and the qb is now fighting for hof nods
@@colemathews3880 I think you missed a year dude. They had a bad record two years ago. Last year they had double digit wins and made the playoffs at least a year ahead of schedule. They only lost on the road by one point to one of the “Duh” teams and were definitely at least in position to win that one. IMO, they should have been in that 3rd tier.
Mina I not gonna lie, ur assessment of the LIONS lb corps really need to be better at the position ( aka R Lewis, P Willis) side line 2 side line, sacking the Qb , yeah it’s lacking in that area by a wide margin, great job/ work on that chart 👍🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯💯👌🏿💪🏿👑
@@kiaadams104Philly has a better roster than KC at every position except QB and TE but you'd be STUPID to rank the eagles anywhere higher than 9 or 10 right now. And I say that as an eagles fan. Better on paper ≠ better on the field
@@tinkdnuos Take off the purple glasses. Goff is good enough and shown he is and their roster is better. What has Lamar done in the playoffs again? Not enough for you to be talking like that.
@@tinkdnuos Lions have a better roster and coaching, better defense, and offensive weapons. Ravens have Lamar, a shaky o line and an old Derrick Henry. Lions are better than the Ravens. It's okay. Relax Mr. "Eagles fan" .. you sound like a Raven to me.
@@kiaadams104 ok Mr lions fan. No bias from YOU right? Everything you're saying is on paper. Lions are the 2nd best in the NFC, 4th best in the league. There's no shame in that. Stop being a little b*tch about it.
Chris Long is grounded. He speaks at a level that anyone can understand. Shout out to his Green Light podcast, it's worth a view every week.
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I gotta be honest, I read that first line and thought u were Howie Long.
little emotional as we approach the end of “fans getting mad at silly preseason rankings that don’t actually impact them” season
funniest part is when it's fans of teams who are ranked like 28th when they feel they should be 21st as if anyone is putting that much thought into their trash teams season LMAO
@@yelsu3358 I, too, thoroughly enjoy the discourse that can be summarised as "you said we would miss the playoffs by a mile and we missed the playoffs by 1000 yards, who is the expert now, huh?" Deeply entertaining.
@@rayontita1912😂 I’m so glad I came to the comment section for once
@@rayontita1912 “you said we were gonna be terrible. guess what? we were only mediocre. ha, take that.”
@@nostradumass6248i appreciate your fandom win or lose you ride by your team
"Unburdened by what has been" 😂😂😂
Notice a former player, someone with real experience comes on and puts the Lions over the 49ers.
Bengals in tier 3 and yet didn’t merit a second of analysis apparently. Only mention of any player was Burrow, and this was to be someone to compare C J Stroud with in the latter’s second season.
Nobody talking about or giving credit to Bengals is just how we like it
CHRIS LONG KNOWS BALL! LIONS SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR BABY!
It’s all fun and games but this Ravens disrespect is going to age like milk in just a few months. Ppl are vastly underrating how good their offense is going to be this year that will far offset any step backs they take in defensive ranking. Even if they go from giving up 16 PPG to 18-19 PPG that’s hardly going to matter when their offense is scoring 35 PPG because opposing defenses have no answer for combo of speed of Lamar and power and speed of Henry and #1 passing attack in league against loaded boxes.
Yall still have a qb who chokes in the playoffs
How is calling them a top 4 team disrespect?
@@DylanW3it’s not. Not in my opinion anyway. However, being placed behind teams we beat the BRAKES off last year….is.
Ratbirds are sensitive
@@DylanW3 They beat the brakes off 3 teams ppl keep putting ahead of them. A few months from now it will be obvious why it’s disrespect when they are one of the most dominant teams in NFL history
Note for Mina, the Lions was third in pass completions over 20 yards and the third in pass yards. For some reason you've been saying 31st but when I went to comment the comments were off so I thought I would put it here for you. Their only weak spot was pass defense which day fixed this year, they will be unstoppable.
3:55
"I do think these three teams are better than the Ravens because they've proved more."
Do you mean after the Ravens destroyed the 49ers on Christmas or beat the Lions ?
Right. Like, had the Ravens beaten the Chiefs, we all knew how that Super Bowl would've went.
I'm a lions fan and you guys SMOKED us last year. It was our worst loss by a mile. And when you guys beat the 9ers, I thought you were going the whole way and started rooting for you guys on the AFC side. And then I was so disappointed in Lamar. It was like he lost all that confidence. I think having Henry will take pressure off of him, but that fall off at the end of the season was big.
@@segagenesis7708ravens are a regular season team.
@@SeanMog Our team just isn't built to throw the ball in the playoffs the way we need to. In the regular season it works, but Lamar still had to be our leading rusher. He needs to play better, but by the same token, it's easy to forget that he's playing for an organization that has historically cared as little about the passing game as any in the league. Heck, it was like pulling teeth for him to get a new OC and them to actually spend half on a WR that you guys just spent on St. Brown. They're slowly getting there. This year, we're going to feature Andrews and Likely on the field together. Now, we have NOTHING behind Zay Flowers and that's a concern, but Lamar's second year in Monken's offense should help.
@@segagenesis7708 “had the Ravens beaten the Chiefs”.
But that’s the thing, the Ravens didn’t even put up a fight. Maybe the Ravens match up well against the Niners, but the Niners clearly matchup better against KC as shown by their last two Super Bowl matchups.
Texans and Packers being so high and the only explanation being "the past doesn't define us" is kind of insane no? Especially the Texans who now have to play a 1st place schedule after going 10-7 playing a 4th place schedule
Bro the amount of praise Houston gets is insane. They beat no one of worth last year.
The texans had bums off the street playing oline, no running game, and still did what they did. Rookie coach. Rookie qb. Rookie OC. Use your eyes.
@@joedawg713 They had one of the easiest schedules in the league and barely won most games against bad competition. Not saying theyre a horrible team but theyre not a top 5 team by far.
I one-hundred percent agree. I watch the NFC North and the attention the Packers are getting is insane. They were 9-8 last year and beat an overrated/ underperforming Dallas team in the playoffs. Like Houston, the Packers aren't going to surprise anyone this year. Both teams better make sure they took care of any and all growing pains in the offseason if they want to have the same success this year.
They deserve credit, but people forget that the Jags were running that division and were 3 games ahead of the Texans before Trevor Lawrence got injured.
Their division is very competitive too, so people like always don't want to take it step by step.
I have to say; I am not a follower but I saw that Chris was in this and it pulled me in.
I just finished cutting the grass and sat down on the patio to relax and decided to watch this.
I dig the teir aspect; each different teir I was yelling out my pick (obviously didn't realize how loud) and my son comes out and asked if something was wrong...
I dug the knowledge, I dug the insight, I dug the back and forth. Well done to the both of you.
Ravens: bash the lion, 49ers, texans, and everyone but the actual superbowl champions, but always have the "most to prove" against teams that have not proven anything more 🙄
We need the team to show up in the playoffs, they changed their whole game plan last year in the postseason and abandoned the run, and gave fuel to the fire of them being regular season reapers like the Cowboys
@@Stormblessed15 still doesn't take away the plain fact that they not only beat those teams but embarrassed them
@@jdajayi92 it sucks but everyone remembers the last game more than the rest of the season, not saying I agree with it
The Ravens will always have "more to prove" than everyone else. High expectations, lower rankings. One would think the team you have a high expectations for would be highly ranked.
Last year the Ravens were the better team.....however, this is the power rankings for the upcoming season. The Ravens lost 3/5ths of their starting offensive line, which by itself could result in them tumbling way down the power rankings over the course of the season. I honestly think the losses on the oline should have them in the 2nd tier & the Texans additions should have them in their place.
The burrow revenge tour is gonna be fun to watch this season (pls stay healthy pls pls)
Bills should be "unburdened" cuz, as good as Diggs could be - and I salute him and wish him well - I do not miss him. Coleman, Samuel, 2 awesome tight ends, Cook out of the backfield: Bills unleashed! Drama is a bag of bricks - all you gotta do is just, let it go.
It didn't look like the Lions or 49ers were better than the Ravens on the same field.
Black tax. Always remember because his dribble makes no sense you talk about the first game of the season but don’t talk about how the Ravens wiped the floor with both teams
@Sportsguy0258 It's not a black tax they have the chiefs 1 only because of Mahomes. They have the ravens last because they choke every year in the playoffs. It's called a post season tax no one cares what happens in the regular season if you choke the minute you get into the playoffs.
As a lions fan, very well said.
@@jacobkemp7050 the lions choked HARD against the niners though so...
@@jacobkemp7050 There is still one even on Mahomes because it wasn’t until he won 2 MVPs and 2 rings did ppl say he was on tier of his own. They used to say Allen and Burrow were on same tier when neither had an MVP or ring. In fact it was QB rankings where Mahomes wasnt even top 2 QB on NFL official website headed into 2022 season
The Ravens destroyed the Lions and 49ers, so i don’t think the logic of “they didn’t show it in the playoffs” when they lost to the number one team, and the lions lost in that same round.
the Ravens slander continues every offseason no matter what. His own logic was "the Lions and 49ers have proved more" and yet they got straight dogwalked by the Ravens.
The Bills beat KC in the regular season every year and then lose to them in the playoffs every year as well. It's a consolation prize to get knocked out by the best team every year.
And the lions so where's your logic. The Lions didn't match up well against the Ravens MVP quarterback and had a terrible game but they have fixed their weak spots with the draft and the offseason. They have no weak spots this year and will cruise to a Super Bowl
@@jerrythor6102 Where's this arrogant "logic" coming from? You realize the Lion's organization has failed for 94 years since it was formed in 1930. "Cruise to a superbowl", "no weak spots"? You're coming up on your 100-year anniversary and you have zero superbowl appearances. Please revert to humility, or just stay silent.
@@jdajayi92the lions before last year had been the laughing stock of the NFL & they were inches away from the super bowl, the ravens in the lamar jackson era hadn’t been close until last year & even with the AFC championship game in their building, they still lost. they have a ton to prove, a H2H matchup in week 6 doesnt negate what happened in the course of the whole season my friend
Props to whoever put together the Flawed But Feisty graphic.
FINALLY someone has realistic expectations for the Chargers! This off season’s glazing has been insane!!
Has the 9ers LEFT TACKLE made his way back to the team yet this YEAR???
Mina, I absolutely love your takes and I do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, the fact of the matter is that the Ravens absolutely skull dragged the Niners and Lions. Yet Chris placed them above the Ravens? Last season the Ravens opened up a can of whup ass and totally dominated and embarrassed the Niners in their house in Prime Time. They beat the Lions like they were a dirty rug that had not been cleaned in years. 🤣🤣🤣 KC deserves to be ranked #1. Ravens lost to KC by 7 in the AFC ship due to the worst game plan in modern NFL history. The only other coaching snafu that made me feel that pissed off was Pete Carroll's bone headed call to throw the ball instead of letting Beast Mode run it down the Pats throat on the goal line. Until the Niners and the Lions prove they can beat the Ravens, I am not buying that BS.
Stopped watching after he put the Lions at 2
Great choice, they should've beating the 9ers
Unburdened by what has been, Kamala would be proud.
I swear he seems sober but that Darnold optimism must come from a place of drunkenness
I feel like I shouldn't be surprised anymore when my Bucs barely get mentioned
We should be used to it by now lol nothing new brother I honestly think we should be in the flawed but feisty group which isn't really a hot take bucs roster this year is a lot better than most of these people think.
Cause they suck
@@kaylamorgan9406 yo mama
So quickly we forget the media coverage of the NFC South without Tom Brady. Welcome back lol.
@@DriftRifteryet the Falcons seem to be media darlings…
Lions glaze is insane 🤣
No its not. They are stacked everywhere and have only improved. They have a top 3 draft every year and have stars coming into season 2-3 all over the team. The Lions are legit and its “insane” to keep saying otherwise. Its ignorant and delusional.
@@brandonbaty2291 all that and still choking a 24-7 lead in the most important game of their franchise’s history. Absolutely poverty. OVERRATED ☠️☠️☠️
Not even a Ravens fan but the idea that they’re at 4 is asinine. They lost to the Chiefs, a team that the 49’s also lost to and the Lions lost to the 49’s. Not to mention the Ravens took apart both the Lions and 49’s in the regular season. Head scratching. Take.
We went through this last year too. The Ravens destroyed everyone not named the Chiefs. 49ers by 2 touchdowns, Lions by 32. Seahawks by 34. Dolphins by 37. Texans by 16 in the regular season and then by 24 in the playoffs. They have the least to prove of that group. There is literally only one team in their way. As someone else in the comment section said. You can't take one head-to-head matchup into account without taking others.
You could say the same thing about the Bills aside from the 1 playoff loss to the Bengals in a turmoil filled year.
Lamar is 20-1 against the NFC
2-4 in the playoffs if your an elite team no one cares what happens in the regular season. Can you show up when it matters?
@@jacobkemp7050 this the power rankings and if these teams played tomorrow the Ravens would step on them
@@jacobkemp7050 They just made the AFC Championship Game last year. That's what this discussion is about. They played a team that many thought would beat them in the Divisional Round and they beat them by three touchdowns. They just lost to the Chiefs.
I like that you guys are overlooking the Bengals so much you didn’t even bother talking about them. It’s not just you, it’s the entire NFL media ecosystem. The chip on the Bengals’ shoulders will be so big they’ll have to duck to get into the stadium.
Your best hope is to hope Lamar isn’t healthy.
When he’s healthy, he owns that division and the ravens win it outright every year
@@TheJimnjas I hope both quarterbacks stay healthy all year so we can end this conversation. I know Joe Burrow is better, but it will help everybody to see it.
@@SnBheyrodBurrow has beating a Ravens team once when Lamar was healthy and that was only when they had half the I team injured. Bengals won the division in 21 because Lamar got injured, they won it in 22 because once again Lamar got injured. Burrow had one magical SB run and no one will let that shit go
Absolutely wild to have the eagles in the top ten then put the Bucs, or should I say the team that beat them in the playoffs, out of the top 15 and 10 spots behind them! Also Atlanta most overrated team this offseason watch, they’re under sized at receiver and TE and won’t be able to block any run scheme outside the tackles, not to mention they did basically nothing to address their league worst pass rush win ratio.
I'm assuming you're a bucs fan like I am nothing new they been doing this all off-season lol at this point it's ridiculous
@@michaellaroche3418 true last year I think Vegas had us at like 3.5 wins and a lot of the “analyst” were taking the under having us at like three wins. Can’t wait to see our offense shock people with Godwin back in slot and upgraded o-line. Also think Mcmilan is about to show out for his rookie year and Cancey takes a huge step.
@@Thomas-nk4uj Yup unless Brady suits up for us again we are irrelevant in the eyes of the national media unfortunately but they'll find out again this season this team is a lot better than people think I'm not saying their are a juggernaut or anything but their a lot better than last year
if the Bears finish as the 22nd best team in the league like this video has them, i'll physically eat my shorts
I know it’s silly to complain about a top 4 ranking but having the Ravens under the Lions is a trash take. I mean they completely shit on the Lions and 9ers. I get the 9ers being up since they made it to bowl but to be fair they play the significantly weaker conference. So Ravens at 4 is just not it for me.
Thats because this is American football, Castro.
Niners and Lions both have better rosters. Better defenses.
Great convo to listen to while I'm here at work. Love that he has Lions over 9ers. They were handling them last year until they finally reverted to their old ways in the 2nd half. I think they take another step this year though. Hard to count the Chiefs out but I don't think they get 3 straight. I'll take Lions over Texans in the SB LIX.
The ravens beat the Lions and 49ers collectively by 50 points. It’s not like these teams didn’t play. This is what I wish people would push back on. Like all 3 of these teams played.
@@Sportsguy0258 I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?..
Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
@@Sportsguy0258 I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?..
Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
@@thewizardofoz511 I believe every off season we have to hear how The Ravens have taken a step back and some other team is going to rise and every year it couldn’t be further from the truth.
@@Sportsguy0258 I think that's the way it is cuz ESPN and national media has put their chips and all the baskets for the last two or three years on the Ravens when it comes to the playoffs and the Ravens has made ESPN look like a joke.. so now I believe national media ESPN is tired of being made look like a joke by pick the Ravens that high and now just keeping the Ravens on the back burner because they know they're talented but at the same time I don't think they have confidence in the Ravens at this moment of getting over the hump.. and they don't believe the Ravens had done enough to thread the needle this past offseason to do just that.. they believe the other teams have though..
@@Sportsguy0258 you already know ESPN is a prideful Network.. and hate being proven wrong!.. or being made to be looked like a fool.. and I believe that's what's going on with them and the Ravens 🤷
I really only watch nfl content to hear Lions takes and let me tell you I was SHOCKED when Chris put us at 2 in the top tier. Pleasantly shocked, but shocked nonetheless
10/10 graphics. graphics person deserves a promotion for this.
Giants being last is crazy. Not saying they will be great or anything but they’re at the very least a tier above the worst teams (come on Washington and Carolina?). They were 6-11 last year with a lot of injuries
Daniels Quinn may make them a little better but I agree pats for sure maybe titans probably broncos and for sure panthers are worse
People are hyping the lions up way too much, honestly feel bad for them when they regress this season.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You don’t know ball. You don’t know the Lions roster. You don’t know dudes like Barnes, Iffy, Kerby, Alim, Levi and Cambell on defense. Top 5 offense again and a top 10 defense and top 2 run defense. You don’t know ball.
OnePride!!
The Lions plugged their holes with DJ Reader, Carlton Davis, Terrion Arnold, Ennis Rakestraw, and Marcus Davenport.
They arguably got better than any other team and they were absolutely a top 5 team last year. They very well could win the Super Bowl this year.
Mina is criminally low on the Chargers. They arguably haven’t gotten any worse. They’ve improved in areas like O Line, RB, TE, Edge, LB, and coaching. Last year they lost 7 games by less than one score, and 6 of those games were playoff teams by a field goal (Dolphins, Cowboys, Lions, Packers, Bills, Chiefs). This includes games that Easton Stick was starting. Ekeler was dealing with an injury all year, and Mike Williams on IR since week 4. People wanna say the WR room took a huge step down, but they made the playoffs in 2022 starting Josh Palmer and Deandre Carter for several games while both Keenan and Mike missed large portions of the season. They don’t need big names at WR. Go back to Herbert’s rookie year and he’s throwing 40 yard TDs to Jalen Guyton and Tyron Johnson. If I remember correctly, since Herbert entered the league his run game has been 25th, and defense ranked 28th while having a top 7 pass game. There’s no way the run game and defense is going to be that bad under Harbaugh, Roman, and Minter. I conservatively think they’re in the top 12-15 range.
-Crazed Chargers fan
Every single team can say the same shit about 1 score games.
Good teams, deserving teams win those games. Chargers did not.
As a Chargers fan...Who cares? Chargers have been overrated as a team, by media for 3or 4 years now. We do not need or want the hype. They just need to win
Chargers is a blind spot for Mina still, she doesnt see how the egalitarian style offense will work through Edwards/Dobbins, then McConkey and Johnston/Hurst. She''s smart, she'll come around
"Alot riding on some pretty young corners" she does know we also have 2 vets there too right? 😂
Colts disrespect is crazy
Very cool; I watch Green Light regularly, but dig the fact that you let Chris geek out on football. I always dig his insight, and after this I also dig your insight. I will definitely watch more down the road...
Love the category descriptors. So fun.
The Lions are riding on Emmual Mosely, Amik, Rakestraw or Arnold as their CB2. Also Mina I’m just going to tell you now, you’re drastically underrated the Lions Defense. They will be top 10 in all categories this year. Derrick Barnes, Kerby, Cambell, Branch, Alim, Levi, Hutch, Iffy are all taking a jump this year.
This is more enjoyable to listen and enjoy than edpn first take. Subscribed☑️
As a lions fan I never thought I'd see a time when the lions were talked about as one of the best teams in the nfl.
I will always be a lions fan, but i have never been more proud to be one now.
"The ceiling is the roof" Chris Long as the kids say
The Jon Snow analogy doesn't work. Jon was actually dead.
good stuff
Just so we're clear: Baltimore is ranked behind the KC because they lost to them, which is fair; however, being ranked behind SF and Detroit when Baltimore embarrassed them both last season is hilarious. You can't weigh one head-to-head matchup against the Ravens without taking the other two into account. Detroit should be behind Baltimore as long as one has a two-time MVP and the other has a poor man's Matt Ryan.
It’s really disrespect first and foremost for Lamar who ppl act like he needs a #1 ranked defense to win when his teams historically score 2nd most points in history per game behind Mahomes with a chance to overcome Mahomes for 1st. It’s also disrespect for the impact Derrick Henry is going to make on their offense. This is going to be the highest scoring offense Lamar has ever had and the 2019 team scored 33 PPG. Ravens could clearly afford to give up 2 to even 4 more PPG.
It’s also disrespect for Roquan Smith and their infrastructure defensively by vastly overrating Mike MacDonald impact on their defense that has been ranked top 10 18 of the last 25 years with well over half a dozen defensive coordinators. Their unit with MacDonald along with PQ were both subpar before the Roquan Smith trade he is the force multiplier.
Did they play in the playoffs or regular season? 2 totally different games. Ravens are elite in the regular season, but are average in the playoffs. Lions are a far better playoff team reason for the rankings.
Baltimore is not ranked behind KC because they lost to them.
Everyone is behind KC because the Chiefs have by far the best player in the game, and they’ve won 7 straight playoff games.
Mina is gonna love jack Campbell by mid season. No off ball LB concerns in Detroit
I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?..
Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
These two need their own podcast or show
The only teams i would swap would be Seattle with Indy, LAC with Chicago, and move the Bucs up to Flawed but Feisty. Other than that, Mina and Chris did a great job.
Mina doubting the Lions LB room 😢
That second tier is absolutely wild
The team with 1 good year behind them and a team with 0 defense. They should be just above mid.
Ravens beat the 9ers WITHOUT Andrews. The ‘23 49ers are better than the ‘24 Lions. Losing the AFCCG doesn’t mean the Lions are now better. Great team, but no.
@@anthonysclafani3963 I believe the list isn't last year based though.. it's based on the additions added and growth of the teams with projections.. so what you should ask yourself is what in the HELL have these teams done to improve since we saw them last?..
Well 49ers not much change at all.. Lions.. MAAAAAAANnn.. the Lions are THEM.. don't you dare do homework on the Lions.. it's over!.. everyone that does doesn't come out thinking or underestimating them.. they have nothing but DAWGZ on that team and I believe they were injured that game vs the Ravens as well being a young team that was overconfident.. the talent is a lot closer than that score indicated that game.. a real studier of the game can easily see that.
Ravens o line about to be bad in 24
@@thewizardofoz511lamar 20-1 against nfc teams. Nuff said
@@josiahbumbray9552 so with knowing that information do you think Lions fans feel better about their chances of winning the Super Bowl, .. the same.. or worst knowing what you know how Detroit people/fans think?
@@josiahbumbray9552 ... Just testing you to see how well you really know Detroiters... Because if you don't know Detroiters you DEFINITELY don't know the Lions 😂.. I have never seen a team in pro Sports take on the identity of their fan base than that team
I don’t really like to or feel the need to talk bad about the Lions as a Ravens fan, but I don’t totally understand how they’ve “proven more” by blowing a 17 point lead in the NFC championship game
The Giants are my Cinderella pick this year
we don’t need to talk about the chiefs lmao i love it..
The national press hates the Bucs…. Beating higher ranked teams, hanging with Detroit and getting better in the offseason seems to have no effect on analysts.
Dalton Kincaid will win your fantasy league 📈
Mina does a great job every time!! I hope she invites Chris to be a regular.
Ok now I have to rewatch GOT after that john Snow reference
Being a Steelers fan realist! I agree with the sector you have them at! Good team in that 500 club but to win a playoff game or 2 they gotta have the chips fall their way! Gotta stay healthy and win them close games! The schedule is brutal!
Keep the Bills disrespect coming. Can't wait to see what Josh does with 6 viable WR 2 insane TEs, 2 amazing RBs with different playstyles, a wealth of LARGE redzone targets, and no divas crying for the ball causing Allen to force it to him.
We currently have 9 countem NINE pass catchers on our roster who are 6'4. If you don't think that will cause teams headaches to cover guys that size in the red zone while Josh Allen is always a threat to just run it in - I want some of what you're smoking.
Height doesn’t matter as much as talent does. Tyreek is short but talented. And 2 insane TEs and 2 amazing RBs is a stretch.
@@TheWagnasty Dalton Kincaid had 73 receptions for 673 yards as a ROOKIE TE. Cook had 1,122 rushing yards with another 445 receiving yards. Knox is a redzone monster. Ray Davis will be a great change of pace from Cook.
@@TheWagnasty Also, Tyreek is 5'10. It's not like he's Trindon feckin Holliday.
Missed opportunity to name the bottom category "Just fell out of coconut tree"
Chargers need to be in 'Theyre having a mid-off', everything else looks perfect
Raiders might be great on defense, and better than average offense. Most likely a wildcard team as they get used to Getsy's offense, and all of their young players blossom. It's the following season where they'll go for the whole thing.
Texans have one good year and they are in talks for top 5 teams in NFL such a joke.
They got better same for cj...
Ravens spanked those two teams you got ahead of them by three touchdowns
New season buddy
@@kiaadams104 and?
Just a note on the Steelers. They did go 5-1 against the AFC north last year. Beating Baltimore twice. If Russell Wilson tosses #'s like he did in Denver last year, this team could really beat out expectations. The D will do their thing, and they brought in some key players, esp Patrick Queen who should allow Minkah to go back to doin Minkah things.
I wouldnt sleep on the Raiders. The Defense is good, Max Crosby a beast. The Offense has some great weapons. If Minshew plays like he did last year, or O'Connell takes a step forward, they could be a very dangerous team. Remember they beat KC on Christmas last year.
Prediction: Russell Wilson is c.o.o.k.e.d.
Steelers beat JAKE BROWNING twice, a deflated Cleveland team, and Tyler Huntley....
sit down kid
@@nistic5723 Steelers have beaten Ravens 8 outta last 9 times, and Lamar has only beaten a Duck Hodges led Steelers his rookie year. I stand by my statement.
Jets should be in the top tier easily
Skipping over and not talking about the Bengals is bullshit
Sigh....didnt even talk about the bucs but put them mid. Won last 3 division titles Have almost all starters back and upgraded o line. You all are nuts.
Just saying, the BUCS will surprise everyone this year
Mina you’re being so disrespectful to the colts, a team that was 15 yards away from hosting a playoff game, with their backup qb, and their schedule is probably even easier this year than last year 🤦♂️
commanders have low key 2023 texans nfc vibes with the new coach qb..they can win 8 games
As a Bills fan its obviously the Chiefs and then everybody else. As a Homer i believe in Josh of course. He is a beast. If i was Ravens fan i would believe in Lamar because he is a beast. If i was a Bengals fan i would believe in Joe because he is a beast. The NFL is at an all time high for Quarterbacks. It's like being a fan of almost any team you have hope in your quarterback. Go Bills!
Hey there, is by chance is Chris drunk? If not drunk he sounds like you've had a few anyways, it's too bad because I'm I enjoy his show, I very much like your show as well.
Awesome! One of my favorite fellow 12s and one of my favorite fellow Deadheads talking my favorite sport!! LFG!
Ravens destroyed the Lions and Niners ... so how did they prove more?
So i guess we should all bet the house on Commanders season win total
Hello Mina, Chris, seems to deal with two types of people, people who he doesn't respect, and and/or people that he very much respects. Ahhaaaa...
27:03
The Lions have proven more than the Ravens?
Yes. Ravens have been to the playoffs multiple years and have shown they can't do it. Lions made there first conf finals and blew it themselves
When he said the Ravens have a lot to prove, I was willing to listen. When he said they have the most to prove of those four teams, that's when I rolled my eyes. They were the best team, in the best division, in the best conference, pretty much until they ran into the Chiefs in the playoffs.
And they beat the crap out of the Lions last year!
I get this part of what he was saying: offseason moves. The Lions improved themselves in the offseason while the Ravens probably lost more than they gained. Also, the Ravens are completely rebuilding their O-line, and that's a scary area to have questions about.
Those are solid reasons to project other teams ahead of the Ravens. But saying the Lions have "proven" more than the Ravens have, sounds very weird.
😂😂😂 are you seriously asking that question? Did you not watch the playoffs? Did the Lions prove more then the Ravens. 😂😂
Lamar has won 2 games in the playoffs in his whole career.... Goff won 2 last year alone and has been to a SB. Lamar and the Ravens need to prove they can win more then 1 game in the playoffs against a team thats not in the AFC South.
Texans over Ravens shows why most former NFL players shouldn't be pundits
Its a ranking of how they think they will perform next season - not how they performed last season. Teams rise and fall faster in the NFL more than in any other sport. Dont be so shocked and listen. Id like to think Chris has more NFL experience than you
@@edwardcacho6242 They based their very first tier on how the top four teams finished last season. No more, no less. Next excuse, please.
@@edwardcacho6242 glazing
Fan upset analyst has a different opinion. A tale old as time lmao
Ah I see. So, only the ones who agree with you and like your team should be pundits? Sure.
Broncos going to shock a lot of people. Everyone got them finishing bottom 3
Damn you right, they might even get to bottom 15!
They still cheeks
@@nistic5723 lets say they top of the bottom 15. If the majority of the top 15 in the NFC then you telling me they are a playoff team. Welcome to the bandwagon
Chris is great!
I’m sorry I think the Bears are gonna surprise the NFL world!🧸⬇️
The bears disrespect is great. This was a 7 win team last year with bad qb play.
And not a single one of those 7 wins was against a team that wasn't trash tier.
@liamengram6326 um the lions I guess don't count.
@@rizeagle33 Forgot about the Lions. So 1 win against a team that wasn't shit tier.
@@liamengram6326 and....
@liamengram6326 the bears are a better team than they were last year and have an easier schedule. The bears are winning 10 to 12 games this year.
Did she accuse Chris long of Sexual assault?
Love this Chris is the only one that has the balls to say what we know is true the Lions got way better than the 49ers and he is not just giving it to the 49ers as second best, like everyone else including you. Sorry but not sorry to say it
The tier for the rams is to low definitely should be in that 2nd or 3rd tier
Did you even look at the names for the tiers? They aren’t legacy, they had a terrible record last year, and they won a Super Bowl really recently, so they don’t have a bad past. They are in the correct tier, you just value the tiers differently
She literally said these are the teams who have been good for 4 to 5 years which should include the rams for the 3rd tier who. Legacy admission both the coach and the qb is now fighting for hof nods
@@colemathews3880 I think you missed a year dude. They had a bad record two years ago. Last year they had double digit wins and made the playoffs at least a year ahead of schedule. They only lost on the road by one point to one of the “Duh” teams and were definitely at least in position to win that one. IMO, they should have been in that 3rd tier.
Mina I not gonna lie, ur assessment of the LIONS lb corps really need to be better at the position ( aka R Lewis, P Willis) side line 2 side line, sacking the Qb , yeah it’s lacking in that area by a wide margin, great job/ work on that chart 👍🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯💯👌🏿💪🏿👑
Lamar is 20-1 against the NFC and destroyed both the 9ers and Lions last year.
Fucking INSANE that every single person has the Lions over the Ravens. No disrespect to Detroit but COME THE FUCK ON PEOPLE.
Lions have a better roster.
@@kiaadams104Philly has a better roster than KC at every position except QB and TE but you'd be STUPID to rank the eagles anywhere higher than 9 or 10 right now. And I say that as an eagles fan. Better on paper ≠ better on the field
@@tinkdnuos Take off the purple glasses. Goff is good enough and shown he is and their roster is better.
What has Lamar done in the playoffs again? Not enough for you to be talking like that.
@@tinkdnuos Lions have a better roster and coaching, better defense, and offensive weapons.
Ravens have Lamar, a shaky o line and an old Derrick Henry.
Lions are better than the Ravens. It's okay. Relax Mr. "Eagles fan" .. you sound like a Raven to me.
@@kiaadams104 ok Mr lions fan. No bias from YOU right?
Everything you're saying is on paper. Lions are the 2nd best in the NFC, 4th best in the league. There's no shame in that. Stop being a little b*tch about it.
Texans and Packers over Eagles and Bengals will prove incorrect.
I mean, how do you go Bills over Bengals?
Mina always finds a way to hate on the Lions
Lions and the Bengals. Otherwise I like her takes.
Lamar is not a great playoff quarterback . He’s a known choker .
ok - so Ravens destroyed the Lions and 9ers last year, so?