You've asked for more, so here's some more sounds of the Behringer Wave :-) This time straight into the audio interface, no effects, just normalized audio. Hope you find it useful!
The first time I knew for certain that I was hearing a PPG Wave was on the amazing album Worlds Apart by Saga. Stunning. I flew back to Syco Systems in London to get a 2.2. They had the original Quanteq Room Simulator on demo as well. I’m fairly sure the Waveterm was on demo too. It’s great that Behringer has produced this. A wonderful instrument that can now be enjoyed by a new generation.
I remember visiting Syco Sistems in Conduit Street (if I’m not mistaken) next to Paddington Station, London, to see the Fairlight and PPGs,(and I also remember reading about the Quantum Room Generator) but just to see them as a synth freak!!!! I also visited the NED Synclavier in London and Madrid too.
The wave term was on demo. I remember travelling to London with my mate as teenagers for the day to go visit and they were kind enough to give us a demo. They were still preparing the demo suite at the time. Paint pots everywhere and the PPG and Waveterm sat in the middle of the room. Happy days.
Really, really good demo, especially the sound at 1:40, absolutely incredible!! Thanks for taking the time to make this demo. Looking forward to get my own! :)
I had a 2.2 for a while. It was in the shop being repaired more than I was using it. Faulty voice cards. It was fragile and very prone to weird noise artifacts which you may or may not like. I got rid of it and started using Korg and Studiologic stuff. Now I mostly use software synths and I have more time to play and less financial investment. My bands had no idea what I was using at any given time. They liked my programming and playing. Lighter instruments led to faster setup and breakdown time.
sounds so much more crisp than the arturia minifreak, which is also entirely digital, but guess behringer + old circuitry of cultclassics just makes a synth more epic. damn, they did it again hey. behringer deserves a nobel price for sound innovation (re-novation)
@@Genshi microfreak is cool, but i prefer exporting the vst. Just one click and its bounced. Without needing realtime export. I just use the synth as a controller. Otherwise i always get this latency
I'm 55, and this year decided I was content with my studio..all my years of knowledge (and cash!) building up my ideal sound, 8 synths that I love and know inside out. Then this comes out, it is sooo quirky, and unusual..i.loved how TD used it....hmmm🤔🤔....😊
@tomnoise23 I might pick your brain in a month or two, perhaps even to see you make a patch from scratch and go through the process?! I'm hoping to do a cover this year of 'charly the kid' by TD, from the firestarter OST. I absolutely love this tune and pretty sure the PPG was all over it. Thanks again Tom , greetings from the emerald Isle 😊
I very rarely put effects on my Waldorf M, which sounds dang near identical to this thing, which is crazy to me. They’ve done excellent work here I think we’re witnessing a new Behringer level of quality
Sounds exellent and looks excellent. Thomann doing a very tempting price on it just now, if it was'nt already tempting enough. Just don't have the room right now for it. Great demo!
Sounds great. I haven’t heard the original in my studio but as a standalone thing the filter sounds good as is the basic sound. Very interesting synth.
I went to the Vintage Synth Museum in LA a couple years ago, and out of all the incredible machines I had a chance to play there, the PPG Wave was one of my top 3. Very excited to add one of these to my collection. Great demo!
Sounds great to me. Very warm when needed. Cold when needed. Not interested in a clone, and this does something interesting for me that sounds very 80s. 😊
Really looking forward to this synth. I am hearing some clicky attack on some of the presets. Is this easily remedied with rolling the attack off a touch?
It does sound lovely, but while listening to it I realised that running my DeepMind 12 and Wavestate in *parallel*, treating them as one synth, can give me anything the Wave can do, and a whole lot more. DM/WS has that blend of digital and analog, but much more hifi and artifact-free, and with a whole lot more features and potential. Don’t get me wrong, I like the PPG-style sound a lot. If I was looking for a synth, it would definitely be on the short list. However, if you’re looking for ultimate sonic flexibility and pristine audio - the DeepMind/Wavestate combo is top of my list. The impression I get is that synthesists overlook using multiple synths in parallel as one voice. It’s freaking awesome.
@@sub-jec-tiv Line-in is always a nice option. As it is, I have two stereo outs, which opens the door for really dialing in eq, and doing morphs in the edit/mix. And hey, there are so many ways to go, like sampling the DM/WS mix and feeding it back into Wavestate. That combination of synths is a whole world of psychedelic bliss 😊
@@sub-jec-tiv A thought … DeepMind desktop and Wavestate Native (software version, cheap, and identical) probably costs less than a Wave. Certainly comparable. But the bang-for-buck of DM/WS is unbeatable IMO.
Interesting, since the Wavestate is said to have all the original PPG wavetables on board. I don't know in what location of the memory they are, and haven't had time yet to search for them. What sets the PPG Wave (2.3) apart from other synths of the same era are the analog filters and the loopable envelopes. But then the Wavestate has a rich set of good filter emulations as well as loopable envelopes ...
@@docdelete why? because it didn’t mean that much to me. Yes, after studying jazz piano for 5 years at a renowned European university of music and after 25+ years as a professional musician and producer, I could have easily transcribed those chords, if I would have been in an urge to do so. But, simply as I said, I am thankful to the original poster for his sharing. And glad to be reminded of this great song and its great use of the JX8P presets (as far as I remember, or were there additional Synclavier layers, too?) in the original.
Hello to all. I need some advice, please. I'm wondering if I should sell somethings to get either this Behringer Wave or the Behringer Deepmind. I'm thinking about selling my Viscount Legend Expander or not (I have a video on it under another name - PIDMJ Productions). In theory I have a potential buyer, but I'm not sure if he's pulled out or not. The VLE has got me a lot of views, not as many as here though, and is a really great organ module with Physical Modelling etc. BUT ... a copy of a PPG Wave!!!!! However, I think you could get more ambient sounds out of the DeepMind. Any advice? I do have other keyboards with organ drawbars, so in theory I can replace the VLE, but it is such a professional machine. Should I risk it and get either a Wave or DM? I feel the DM would get more ambient and organ sounds but the Wave looks fantastic.
@@xisotopex No, I used to use some digital wavetable synths in the 90s. Nowadays I have the Waldorf M and also Plugins, but I don‘t see the point in comparing them. They are different in too many ways.
That may be due to the possibility of the Behringer Wave to use the wavetables in 8-bit (wave 2.1 and 2.2) or 12 bit (wave 2.3) resolution. Don't know what is selected here. To me it sounds very similar to the Microwave 1.0 (12 bit), of which i am a 30+ year owner. The microwave has identical wavetables to the PPG 2.3, that i owned for a very brief moment. In a recording or live performance the differences with the original, if any, are virtually unnoticable.
I wonder if Thomas Dolby had this, if he could re-create the bass sound from Windpower. He said it was kind of a happy accident. One of the coolest bass synth patches of all time
He had the mainframe versions of the 360a , very different since these had no filter and different waves , at some point they dropped in an elevator shaft beyond repair, then he had a 2.3 for years with no memory storage that he used to make sounds on the fly with during sessions
Nice! Believe it or not though, I'd like to hear it WITH some nice ambient reverbs and other fx. All the videos so far have been dry. Wanna hear what this thing's full potential is!
No sabía , que uno de los fuertes del wave , iban a ser sus bajos , no lo sé, pero de momento lo que he escuchado en la zona grave me ha gustado , me gusta la respuesta de los transistores en el ataque de la envolvente , también se escucha un pequeño click en los sonidos, pero supongo que viene del original y su carácter digital... Saludos 👍
Produce Like A Pro channel has a long Stephen Lipson interview, where he talks about STTR demonstrating different parts of the multitrack. Can’t get any more authentic in terms of how and what than SL.
I had a 2.2 for a while. It was in the shop being repaired more than I was using it. Faulty voice cards. It was fragile and very prone to weird noise artifacts which you may or may not like. I got rid of it and started using Korg and Studiologic stuff. Now I mostly use software synths and I have more time to play and less financial investment. My bands had no idea what I was using at any given time. They liked my programming and playing. Lighter instruments led to faster setup and breakdown time.
@@jakobthieseni'll do it if they lend me a behringer , i do think it's slightly closer than Waldorf V3 , but you have to hear it in the flesh as RUclips sound can't handle it's detail
Really strange comment… nothing wrong if you are new to synthesis but, Wavetable synthesis has been around for a long time and is in many current synths as well, including your Micro/Minifreak which you mentioned in another comment.
Do they have the same architecture? Is the Behringer meant to be a close copy, or does it just share elements with the original design? Just curious. I've never seen the original, and may well never see one since they're pretty rare.
@TooSlowTube just based on this demo and playing mine today it sounds like they copied the wave tables. The sound difference is the filter and LFO, they are pretty different. I'm sure this is a nice wavetable synth for cheap, but it is not even close to the sound of a real PPG Wave.
@@thefrankly Thanks. I'm not likely to buy one due to the size and weight, but it's still interesting. If they could make one in the same format as their Pro-800 desktop module I'd buy one, but it's probably not all that practical to do it.
that should really help the 30,000 people who are on the fence of whether to pay $600 for one of these or $20,000 for the 3 real ones currently for sale on the entire planet.
My first hand experience with Behringer is they are poorly made knockoffs of other people’s innovations. I got burned with a lemon of a rack mixer from them in the late 90s, and watched them copy design after design making cheap knockoffs of well-engineered products. The first example that comes to mind is their blatant rip off of Mackie’s HR824 monitors with their Truth model. That did it for me. This is one major company that I absolutely refuse to buy products from.
@ this is the first time I’ve commented on a behringer video tbh. I was genuinely curious if they managed to get the PPG sound… the thing that actually caught my eye in the thumbnail is that I thought it was the Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave.
@ Makes sense, thanks for your answer! I don‘t share your experience though. I still have a composer and an ultrafex which I bought new in 1995 and they still work without issues. I never had a Behringer mixer though.
Buenas , se escucha un ruido en todos los sonidos, parecen los osciladores o el amp modulando constantemente, como si fueran osciladores temblorosos, parecido a un ring mod constante , no sé , si eso es lo normal, tampoco si eso le pasa al original, que sé , que también tiene artefactos , tampoco creo que el pluging tenga así el sonido.. si es así, me hubiera gustado un recorrido limpio de la señal, aunque en las demos suena muy bien , sobretodo los bajos a pesar de los artefactos y los sonidos marcianos también suenan bien.. Saludos 👍
@@benisaez1180 the way how the oscillators are summed is very unique. It uses a digital multiplex technique instead of a mixer and this sounds different. I guess this is what you are refering to.
You've asked for more, so here's some more sounds of the Behringer Wave :-)
This time straight into the audio interface, no effects, just normalized audio.
Hope you find it useful!
Finally! Thank you
Thank you, that's what I needed!
Thank you Tom ! It sounds gorgeous. #takemymoney
This thing sounds DOPE ! I don't care how close it is to the original.
@@synthmavenYep. I’m pleasantly surprised by the quality of the filters for the price. Very cool
Slave To The Rhythm! I'll be getting one of these. Great Demo.
The first time I knew for certain that I was hearing a PPG Wave was on the amazing album Worlds Apart by Saga. Stunning. I flew back to Syco Systems in London to get a 2.2. They had the original Quanteq Room Simulator on demo as well. I’m fairly sure the Waveterm was on demo too. It’s great that Behringer has produced this. A wonderful instrument that can now be enjoyed by a new generation.
I remember visiting Syco Sistems in Conduit Street (if I’m not mistaken) next to Paddington Station, London, to see the Fairlight and PPGs,(and I also remember reading about the Quantum Room Generator) but just to see them as a synth freak!!!! I also visited the NED Synclavier in London and Madrid too.
I saw a PPG in Golders Green, London in about 1987
The wave term was on demo. I remember travelling to London with my mate as teenagers for the day to go visit and they were kind enough to give us a demo. They were still preparing the demo suite at the time. Paint pots everywhere and the PPG and Waveterm sat in the middle of the room. Happy days.
What a fantastic sounding synth. I really love this one.
Really, really good demo, especially the sound at 1:40, absolutely incredible!!
Thanks for taking the time to make this demo. Looking forward to get my own! :)
Two minutes in and already Slave to the Rhythm and Duel...get out! What a fantastic sounding synth. Thanks for the superb demo.
Thanks for another great demo Tom. The Wave sounds great with no FX, the potential of this thing is huge.
I had a 2.2 for a while. It was in the shop being repaired more than I was using it. Faulty voice cards. It was fragile and very prone to weird noise artifacts which you may or may not like. I got rid of it and started using Korg and Studiologic stuff. Now I mostly use software synths and I have more time to play and less financial investment. My bands had no idea what I was using at any given time. They liked my programming and playing. Lighter instruments led to faster setup and breakdown time.
Sounds great, can't wait for mine to turn up. Thanks for the demo.
sounds so much more crisp than the arturia minifreak, which is also entirely digital, but guess behringer + old circuitry of cultclassics just makes a synth more epic. damn, they did it again hey. behringer deserves a nobel price for sound innovation (re-novation)
@@Thusila234 minifreak has analog filters.
@@BullyMaguire4ever Ah ok, but i use the vst output anyway
@@Thusila234you mean USB Output?
@AC_Martin only if you don't know what you are doing. If you can't make the Microfreak sound musical, then you need more experience and practice...
@@Genshi microfreak is cool, but i prefer exporting the vst. Just one click and its bounced. Without needing realtime export. I just use the synth as a controller. Otherwise i always get this latency
This is a really strange synth, very unique. I think I’ll definitely be getting one.
Think or definitely? Which? 🤪
@ definitely 👍🏼
Balm for the ears. Of course we made it to 'here'. What a fine sound, neither too thick nor too thin.
WOOAAA... this things sounds so RICH!!! 😻
Always good to hear a B-Movie fan out there in the wilds of RUclips!
I'm 55, and this year decided I was content with my studio..all my years of knowledge (and cash!) building up my ideal sound, 8 synths that I love and know inside out.
Then this comes out, it is sooo quirky, and unusual..i.loved how TD used it....hmmm🤔🤔....😊
I feel you (I‘m 57). It never stops …
@tomnoise23 I might pick your brain in a month or two, perhaps even to see you make a patch from scratch and go through the process?! I'm hoping to do a cover this year of 'charly the kid' by TD, from the firestarter OST. I absolutely love this tune and pretty sure the PPG was all over it. Thanks again Tom , greetings from the emerald Isle 😊
This synth doesn't need effects , natural 3d perception on every sound
I very rarely put effects on my Waldorf M, which sounds dang near identical to this thing, which is crazy to me. They’ve done excellent work here
I think we’re witnessing a new Behringer level of quality
excellent demo. Many thanks!
Sounds exellent and looks excellent. Thomann doing a very tempting price on it just now, if it was'nt already tempting enough. Just don't have the room right now for it. Great demo!
Sounds great. I haven’t heard the original in my studio but as a standalone thing the filter sounds good as is the basic sound. Very interesting synth.
I went to the Vintage Synth Museum in LA a couple years ago, and out of all the incredible machines I had a chance to play there, the PPG Wave was one of my top 3. Very excited to add one of these to my collection. Great demo!
What were the other two?
@MusicFed Elka Synthex and Yamaha CS-80!
@@chrisdigiuseppe7717 excellent taste - never tried any of these 3
I watched 2 different synth museum vids hoping they'd crack open the PPG haha, and they never did, I was like C'MON!!!
@@shardsrecordingstudio-matt2247 oh man its worth a visit if you are ever out that way!
タンジェリンドリームがppg を使っていた頃を思い出します。
いい音です。
Ugh, it sounds great! I’ve always wanted to be Depeche Mode in 1983! 🥰
Would love a desktop version
yes
I understand that Ugh. It's the almost wishing it didnt sound spectacular which creates the burning compulsion.
Great demo!👍
Can you imagine how it would sound if they could have squeezed the Deepmind effects unit in somewhere. 🤔😁
That would be cool!
Sounds great to me. Very warm when needed. Cold when needed. Not interested in a clone, and this does something interesting for me that sounds very 80s. 😊
I never played an original but this one sounds very well in its own right
THX 4 this sounds. I preordered this dude in store in cologne. Such so nice device.
🎵slave to the rhythm, love to the rhythm🎵
sounds great. thanks.
Slave to the rhythm
slave to the wave 😀
If you’re Jonesing to stay in people’s good Graces.
Came here to say the same thing.
@@ingostromitzky497 ooh baby!
@@entropybentwhistle "Don't cry. It's only the Rhythm."
yep i like it cant wait to get mine thanks Mr T
Sounds great. Might have to get one 😊
thanks very much for this further demo.
cheers Tom 🙂 and happy new year fella
@@ogasi1798 thanks Jamie, likewise! 🤝
Cant wait to get one. Been waiting years for an affordable clone this good.
Nice timing from Behringer for all the Justice fans ✝️
it's only business
Really looking forward to this synth. I am hearing some clicky attack on some of the presets. Is this easily remedied with rolling the attack off a touch?
@@Neonanism yes indeed.
Didn't expect a Nowhere Girl cover in this !!
I hope the surprise was not unpleasant.
@@tomnoise23 nope, was great!
@ 😉
that is a good demo, thanks
Hope, there will be an Desktop Version too..🙏🏼 ( Behringer UB-Xa D ..)
How's the action on those button keys?
❤ A great demonstration!
It does sound lovely, but while listening to it I realised that running my DeepMind 12 and Wavestate in *parallel*, treating them as one synth, can give me anything the Wave can do, and a whole lot more.
DM/WS has that blend of digital and analog, but much more hifi and artifact-free, and with a whole lot more features and potential.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the PPG-style sound a lot. If I was looking for a synth, it would definitely be on the short list.
However, if you’re looking for ultimate sonic flexibility and pristine audio - the DeepMind/Wavestate combo is top of my list.
The impression I get is that synthesists overlook using multiple synths in parallel as one voice.
It’s freaking awesome.
True. Layering is the jAm. Too bad DM doesn’t have audio in. You could really merge the tones.
@@sub-jec-tiv Line-in is always a nice option. As it is, I have two stereo outs, which opens the door for really dialing in eq, and doing morphs in the edit/mix. And hey, there are so many ways to go, like sampling the DM/WS mix and feeding it back into Wavestate. That combination of synths is a whole world of psychedelic bliss 😊
@@sub-jec-tiv A thought … DeepMind desktop and Wavestate Native (software version, cheap, and identical) probably costs less than a Wave. Certainly comparable. But the bang-for-buck of DM/WS is unbeatable IMO.
Interesting, since the Wavestate is said to have all the original PPG wavetables on board. I don't know in what location of the memory they are, and haven't had time yet to search for them.
What sets the PPG Wave (2.3) apart from other synths of the same era are the analog filters and the loopable envelopes. But then the Wavestate has a rich set of good filter emulations as well as loopable envelopes ...
love the propaganda -duel piano sound at 1.20 (Rspcta)!!!!!
I thought that sounded familiar too. Great song, I was turned on to them by Synthmania's website of famous synth sounds.
Nice bit of B-Movie in there ;)
Sehr schön! Auf den Synth freue ich mich sehr.
Danke. Bin gespannt, ob er mit deinem Wave mithalten kann!
@@tomnoise23habe leider kein Original, aber scheint jetzt auch nicht mehr nötig. Ich bin ziemlich beeindruckt
@ dann habe ich das verwechselt. Ich war mir fast sicher, dass Du da ein Video auf dem Channel hattest.
@ synth legend aka Rüdiger
If John Carpenter was a synth, he would be this one.
thanks so much for showing the notes of that famous Slave To The Rhythm intro! Been waiting for this for so many years!
@@tihinter well, to be honest, I found the chords in a tutorial on RUclips 😁
Why wait? You could've noodled them out by ear, by trial and error. 🤷♂️
@@docdelete why? because it didn’t mean that much to me. Yes, after studying jazz piano for 5 years at a renowned European university of music and after 25+ years as a professional musician and producer, I could have easily transcribed those chords, if I would have been in an urge to do so. But, simply as I said, I am thankful to the original poster for his sharing. And glad to be reminded of this great song and its great use of the JX8P presets (as far as I remember, or were there additional Synclavier layers, too?) in the original.
what is the wave on the smaller screen supposed to tell me?
@@maxmeier532 it’s an oscilloscope, showing the output waveform and the names of the wavetables or transient waves on loading.
Sounds unusual to me! Would be cool to hear some FM (or FM-like) sounds!
A must have from Behringer in addition to the DM12.
it's pitty that they don't insert that FX block in new poly-synths anymore!
@@KiR_3d Yeah the excellent modulatable DM12 effects make that synth 20x more interesting.
Love the sound, could be from 80s troma horror movie!
Can it also load sounds from Wave2 and 2.3? There are many in Sysex format.
Good question - I didn't try
@@piet245 I have just tried to send a PPG sysex file without success. So it seems this doesn‘t work.
sound very behringerly crisp for a digital synth, they didnt really made much digital synths before did they? apart from the mini's ?
Hello to all. I need some advice, please. I'm wondering if I should sell somethings to get either this Behringer Wave or the Behringer Deepmind. I'm thinking about selling my Viscount Legend Expander or not (I have a video on it under another name - PIDMJ Productions). In theory I have a potential buyer, but I'm not sure if he's pulled out or not. The VLE has got me a lot of views, not as many as here though, and is a really great organ module with Physical Modelling etc. BUT ... a copy of a PPG Wave!!!!! However, I think you could get more ambient sounds out of the DeepMind. Any advice? I do have other keyboards with organ drawbars, so in theory I can replace the VLE, but it is such a professional machine. Should I risk it and get either a Wave or DM? I feel the DM would get more ambient and organ sounds but the Wave looks fantastic.
The deepmind comes with Build in effects which might be a benefit for ambient stuff.
You had me at Slave to the Rhythm
Dat “Ballet Dancer” bell, daaaaaaamn
What is the click on attack
I guess it is due to the combination of 80s digital technology and very fast envelopes times.
sounds fantastic. do you have anything else that you could compare it to? like some of the korg digital synths or the modal synth?
@@xisotopex No, I used to use some digital wavetable synths in the 90s. Nowadays I have the Waldorf M and also Plugins, but I don‘t see the point in comparing them. They are different in too many ways.
Great video 🎉
First seconds "Slave To The Rhythm".
WOW!! That sounds awesome! I really love that sound at 1:40!! Is that a preset or one you programmed? Fine demo too!! Thank you!!
@@UniQueWerkx Thanks a lot! That’s one of my own presets using Group A and B (two sounds at once)
@@tomnoise23 It's *very* impressive, IMO!!
Can it load custom wavetables or can you turn samples and load them up?
@@pummeluff230 Yes
I think I heard “Duel” intro from Propaganda in 2:18
@@x10dc90 confirmed 😉
So whats the build quality like?
Can tell right away it sounds different than my 2.3 wich does not say it sounds bad
That may be due to the possibility of the Behringer Wave to use the wavetables in 8-bit (wave 2.1 and 2.2) or 12 bit (wave 2.3) resolution. Don't know what is selected here. To me it sounds very similar to the Microwave 1.0 (12 bit), of which i am a 30+ year owner. The microwave has identical wavetables to the PPG 2.3, that i owned for a very brief moment.
In a recording or live performance the differences with the original, if any, are virtually unnoticable.
Great video. Are the keypad buttons spongy like the RD-9? Or are they like the original wave and clicky?
@@ConductiveIRL Never touched an RD-9. On the Wave they remind me of a computer Keyboard
@ awesome. That’s what I was hoping for. Not that it makes any difference related to the sound of the synth. Thanks again for making great content.
Are these stock sounds and if not have you considered making patches?
Mostly stock sounds and a few tweaked ones
I wonder if Thomas Dolby had this, if he could re-create the bass sound from Windpower. He said it was kind of a happy accident. One of the coolest bass synth patches of all time
He had the mainframe versions of the 360a , very different since these had no filter and different waves , at some point they dropped in an elevator shaft beyond repair, then he had a 2.3 for years with no memory storage that he used to make sounds on the fly with during sessions
"I CANT WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND TO BEGIN"( FIRST CHORDS SEQUENCE)
Nice! Believe it or not though, I'd like to hear it WITH some nice ambient reverbs and other fx. All the videos so far have been dry. Wanna hear what this thing's full potential is!
Sounds like, time to send browser audio through plugins 🤖
A good synth has movement and space without reverb , it's the real test .
sounds great! is that an RE-303 i see there 😉
@@indigoskywalker good spot!
Nice 1!
damn so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
damn I kinda lost interest of this already because of the bad demos but now I want it even more
sounds like the dry Argon 8
Interesting. Never had an Argon 8.
Had an Argon 8 and yes, the Wave reminds me of it... Unfortunately the Argon is not a matured product.
No sabía , que uno de los fuertes del wave , iban a ser sus bajos , no lo sé, pero de momento lo que he escuchado en la zona grave me ha gustado , me gusta la respuesta de los transistores en el ataque de la envolvente , también se escucha un pequeño click en los sonidos, pero supongo que viene del original y su carácter digital... Saludos 👍
The only sound that makes me excited is that Portishead like organ at 7:00
Thanks for the video, without any effects the wave sounds so good. Behringer could easily double the price, it is definitely a no brainer
shhh! 🤫
@@alpha1217 ha, my exact thought too. Let's not give them ideas
Delete this comment. Thanks.
@@AliothSenator let me shortly think about that 🤔…..
B. isn't like Moog ( Muse for example ).
2:20 Duel (Bittersweet) by Propaganda.
BOC❤
Dammit, did you really have to start off with "Slave To The Rhythm?" Though I believe the original was a Synclavier...
@@marzzz1 No, but I wanted it - that Sound kind of reminded me…😁
Horn said the opening was Roland jx10
Produce Like A Pro channel has a long Stephen Lipson interview, where he talks about STTR demonstrating different parts of the multitrack. Can’t get any more authentic in terms of how and what than SL.
The original sound comes from Andy Richards, and combines a vocal sample of a session vocalist he had recorded with other PPG sounds…
@@cnfuzzsounds like it's more than one patch layered.. probably more than one synth knowing Horn
1:40
Nowhere Girl......... !
Someone likes Boards Of Canada.
@@sillyworm someone else too!
I can't stand behringer but I always love your presentation approach and your impressive sound design skills
@@tanoi242 thank you, I feel flattered!!
Danke lieber Tom :)
Has anyone put this side by side with a real ppg yet?
Other than all the beta testers you mean?
I had a 2.2 for a while. It was in the shop being repaired more than I was using it. Faulty voice cards. It was fragile and very prone to weird noise artifacts which you may or may not like. I got rid of it and started using Korg and Studiologic stuff. Now I mostly use software synths and I have more time to play and less financial investment. My bands had no idea what I was using at any given time. They liked my programming and playing. Lighter instruments led to faster setup and breakdown time.
@@RichardOlpin yes, hopefully we can hear a B2B to an OG ppg to see how close they got it...:)
@@jakobthieseni'll do it if they lend me a behringer , i do think it's slightly closer than Waldorf V3 , but you have to hear it in the flesh as RUclips sound can't handle it's detail
This thing really needs built-in effects.
really a strange type of synthesis that somehow didnt really showed up in many future synthesizer releases i think. its 100% Digital?
Digital Oscillators and multiplexing, analog filters
Really strange comment… nothing wrong if you are new to synthesis but, Wavetable synthesis has been around for a long time and is in many current synths as well, including your Micro/Minifreak which you mentioned in another comment.
@@Genshi DONT BE SO ANGRY WITH ME
@@Genshi i was just drunk, even my access virus ti polar has wavetable synthesis. 🤪
It sounds more 90s than 80s.
Sounds allright, but some of the sounds have a very "clicky" attack. Sounds almost like a DC offset. Maybe a artifact from the normalization?
@@i_never_asked_for_an_alias The clicks are part of the sound. The envelopes have very fast attack times.
grace jones would be proud
4 octaves? PPG had 5. Bad move for left hand bass players :(
I like 49 keys. Good compromise. They can't please everyone.. and the price point is very low because the shipping costs are lower.
As a wave 2.2 owner I can honestly report that this doesn't sound like it at all.
Do they have the same architecture? Is the Behringer meant to be a close copy, or does it just share elements with the original design? Just curious. I've never seen the original, and may well never see one since they're pretty rare.
@TooSlowTube just based on this demo and playing mine today it sounds like they copied the wave tables. The sound difference is the filter and LFO, they are pretty different. I'm sure this is a nice wavetable synth for cheap, but it is not even close to the sound of a real PPG Wave.
@@thefrankly Thanks. I'm not likely to buy one due to the size and weight, but it's still interesting. If they could make one in the same format as their Pro-800 desktop module I'd buy one, but it's probably not all that practical to do it.
that should really help the 30,000 people who are on the fence of whether to pay $600 for one of these or $20,000 for the 3 real ones currently for sale on the entire planet.
No one cares
sounds like any other behringer synth
You mean you like the sound of the fair price?
Good luck with matching the sounds using a Pro 800 or UB-Xa.
My first hand experience with Behringer is they are poorly made knockoffs of other people’s innovations. I got burned with a lemon of a rack mixer from them in the late 90s, and watched them copy design after design making cheap knockoffs of well-engineered products. The first example that comes to mind is their blatant rip off of Mackie’s HR824 monitors with their Truth model. That did it for me. This is one major company that I absolutely refuse to buy products from.
With all respect, why do you watch videos about these products then? No offense, I am really wondering.
@ this is the first time I’ve commented on a behringer video tbh. I was genuinely curious if they managed to get the PPG sound… the thing that actually caught my eye in the thumbnail is that I thought it was the Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave.
@ Makes sense, thanks for your answer! I don‘t share your experience though. I still have a composer and an ultrafex which I bought new in 1995 and they still work without issues. I never had a Behringer mixer though.
Buenas , se escucha un ruido en todos los sonidos, parecen los osciladores o el amp modulando constantemente, como si fueran osciladores temblorosos, parecido a un ring mod constante , no sé , si eso es lo normal, tampoco si eso le pasa al original, que sé , que también tiene artefactos , tampoco creo que el pluging tenga así el sonido.. si es así, me hubiera gustado un recorrido limpio de la señal, aunque en las demos suena muy bien , sobretodo los bajos a pesar de los artefactos y los sonidos marcianos también suenan bien.. Saludos 👍
@@benisaez1180 the way how the oscillators are summed is very unique. It uses a digital multiplex technique instead of a mixer and this sounds different. I guess this is what you are refering to.