Kya Pakistan Ko Chor Dain? | The Debate Ep. 1 | ft. Ahsan Tariq & Osama Rizvi

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
  • Welcome to the inaugural episode of The Debate, hosted by Syed Yasir Shah and brought to you by the World Times Institute. In this episode, we tackle the provocative question: "Kya Pakistan Ko Chor Dain?" (Should We Leave Pakistan?). Join us for an engaging discussion with our expert guests, Ahsan Tariq, a geopolitical analyst, and Osama Rizvi, an energy and economy analyst. Together, they explore the current socio-economic and political climate of Pakistan, weighing the pros and cons of staying versus leaving. This debate is essential viewing for anyone invested in Pakistan's future. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more thought-provoking discussions!

Комментарии • 95

  • @shafqatabbasgondal9958
    @shafqatabbasgondal9958 16 дней назад +20

    The crux of this debate: leave the country after acquiring some skill for better economic and social opportunities.

  • @usamahaiderbrohi8971
    @usamahaiderbrohi8971 16 дней назад +12

    Usama, the very different and typical man, who is from those rare persons, sees problems realistically and ideally and says what is better for the nation or community as well as for an individual and this crux is hard to extract from the problem.

    • @osamarizvi7083
      @osamarizvi7083 16 дней назад +4

      Thank you for your kind words!!!

    • @usamahaiderbrohi8971
      @usamahaiderbrohi8971 15 дней назад +2

      @@osamarizvi7083 Sir, MASHA ALLAH, ALLAH bestowed you such a knowledge with the most easy way of expressing and explaining it. So Sir please you have to make your own vlogs on the economy of Pakistan . And Sir I, being a CSS aspirant, never saw such Pakistani especially urdu economists on RUclips, it would be more beneficial for us to have such a legendary teacher. May ALLAH save you from an evil eye. Jazakallah ❤️

    • @usamahaiderbrohi8971
      @usamahaiderbrohi8971 15 дней назад +1

      @@osamarizvi7083 it's my pleasure Sir g ❤️🌹

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад +1

      Okay @osamarizvi

  • @Adil_Ahmed01
    @Adil_Ahmed01 16 дней назад +13

    Vote for Ep 2 Soon.

  • @fiazahmadshaheen4414
    @fiazahmadshaheen4414 13 дней назад +3

    The man in kurta shalwar was open minded, open to discussion and more fair/rational in his arguments. Other person has good case but he is a bad lawer, he was sitting very closed mind and not accepting the merits of opposing argument. His denial of rise of east in future also shows his limited knowledge and exposure. Overall great and productive discussion.

  • @sudaisahmad9475
    @sudaisahmad9475 15 дней назад +4

    Absolutely right...our new generation or youth are inspired from the tiktoker those who are living in foreign countries but the are not aware from the other side that how much hard work and skill is required in foreign countries ❤❤❤

  • @ItsTaniaRana
    @ItsTaniaRana 16 дней назад +4

    Insightful! 👏

  • @sairaveterinarycorner9654
    @sairaveterinarycorner9654 9 дней назад +2

    Such a useful debate .,,,please bring more episodes of these two individuals, ,However that "Danda statement " by the host stole the whole show :D

  • @Iqraabdulrasool39
    @Iqraabdulrasool39 15 дней назад +3

    Healthy debate
    I stand with Sir Ahsan's point of view, If the state is unable to provide opportunities to its bulk of population then go abroad and find a better life for your family and try to protect the state from the burden of unemployed people.
    Build your country from ashes.❤

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад +1

      Best honesty is honesty to yourself.

  • @sumairaAwan125
    @sumairaAwan125 16 дней назад +4

    Beautifully discussed.

  • @eshakhan404
    @eshakhan404 16 дней назад +3

    Outlcass, very informative and this duo❤️

  • @usamahaiderbrohi8971
    @usamahaiderbrohi8971 16 дней назад +1

    Maza agaya Sir g❤ . MASHA ALLAH such a enthusiastic debate ❤

  • @gulamayesha-cn1zg
    @gulamayesha-cn1zg 16 дней назад +3

    I love their debate, its like i am writing an argumentative essay,more episodes😊😊😊😊

  • @tahirafatima9333
    @tahirafatima9333 16 дней назад +3

    Conclusion by Sir Osama is way practical

  • @asifa8078
    @asifa8078 7 дней назад +2

    Yes, sir Ahsan is right talent is there but no opportunities. Getting the best, whether in Pakistan or abroad, is the right of everybody. Pakistan is a confused state with confused policies, so it will take time to get on the right track. Until then, our lives will be wasted here.

  • @MomeenKhaleed
    @MomeenKhaleed 14 дней назад +1

    Along with merit for graduate degree programs there must be a gauge that is forecasting of in-demand labor professions for at least 3-4 decades. This will be only possible if the economy has tentative or proper plan for development and growth for next 6/7 political regimes.

  • @saratariq2281
    @saratariq2281 15 дней назад +1

    both the guests spoke really well!

  • @sheikh_in_Vr
    @sheikh_in_Vr 15 дней назад +3

    Great Answer by Osama, 💯

  • @taimoorsikandar5793
    @taimoorsikandar5793 12 дней назад

    Such an amazing initiative that is capacitated to change the trajectory of our minds thanks men❤

  • @sheikh_in_Vr
    @sheikh_in_Vr 15 дней назад

    Greatly Discussed by both

  • @riversideselfstudy4926
    @riversideselfstudy4926 14 дней назад

    We really need such intellectual debates.

  • @manahilqayyum9537
    @manahilqayyum9537 15 дней назад

    Sir Osama's arguments have always been enlightening. And since 70% of my family from ajk is settled outside, the life is harsh when you dont work on your skills there for better employment. You cant start a family there unless you have a high earning job. Therefore, sir osama's stance is absolutely right and ofc sir ahsan's too

  • @saudghazali
    @saudghazali 13 дней назад +1

    Im an Overseas Pakistani & Ahsan is right

  • @jalalhassan4009
    @jalalhassan4009 16 дней назад +2

    I really enjoy ahsan and osama debate.

  • @leisureclub_
    @leisureclub_ 15 дней назад +1

    Usama's suggestion is quite good actually. Everyone should get good skills before migrating. That will be really good for them to achieve their targets easily.. Otherwise they will stuck in a vicious circle of living paycheck to paycheck in foreign country.

  • @fakharunnisa3011
    @fakharunnisa3011 16 дней назад +1

    Healthy debate 👏

  • @ahmadshamshadrajput4814
    @ahmadshamshadrajput4814 15 дней назад +1

    Sir Ahsan sehii mazay lety heinnn😃

  • @Aila289
    @Aila289 16 дней назад +3

    They discuss very beautifully

  • @rehanbukhari8369
    @rehanbukhari8369 12 дней назад

    My POV totally matches with Sir Osama. Bravo !

  • @tehminagillani8293
    @tehminagillani8293 10 дней назад

    Healty debates 🎉🎉

  • @ChemistryMajor
    @ChemistryMajor 13 дней назад

    Good debate 👍💯

  • @khalidshabbir9963
    @khalidshabbir9963 16 дней назад +1

    Osma rizvi and Ahsan Tariq both are good mentor .

  • @muhammadqasim3601
    @muhammadqasim3601 16 дней назад +3

    Tell me about oman

  • @brifribruo2703
    @brifribruo2703 16 дней назад +3

    Please don't be like people on news channels... I think one person is being optimistic and the other are just not more than assertive and critic

  • @muhammadhsanain320
    @muhammadhsanain320 15 дней назад +1

    Your chemistry does not match but always give an enlightening flavourful to the podcast.
    👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

  • @tahlalbaki3648
    @tahlalbaki3648 16 дней назад +4

    Sir 18thousands

  • @dark-hearted8777
    @dark-hearted8777 16 дней назад +2

    Why would other country accept us? And do you really think everyone can afford it?
    By acceptance I mean wouldn't we be discriminated? Would we be able make our living...
    Seeing my family, I don't think we can afford to move another country....

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад

      Those who can afford should go.

  • @eeman_saleem
    @eeman_saleem 14 дней назад

    Good debate and such an interesting topic.
    In my personal opinion, Ahsan presented a more structured and fact-based argument compared to Osama. While Osama demonstrated passion in defending his views, he lacked a comprehensive understanding of the factors affecting immigrants overseas. For example, he claimed that inflation in Canada had reached double digits, whereas the actual Consumer Price Index (CPI) was recorded at 8.1% in June 2022. Moreover, he cited that 90,000 immigrants have left Canada. Candian economic conditions were not the only factor in this reverse migration. Factors such as personal circumstances, social integration, and policy changes also played a significant role.
    I believe that the unemployment rate is a more accurate metric to measure the employability of the labour force in countries like the USA, Canada and Australia. A lower unemployment rate suggests that nearly everyone, including immigrants from overseas, has employment opportunities. This metric effectively reflects the overall economic integration and stability that affect immigrant communities as well as the local population.

  • @jiaikhlas4537
    @jiaikhlas4537 9 дней назад

    Sir usama is right as always

  • @Inzamam.97
    @Inzamam.97 11 дней назад

    Salam sir, a video make about all scholarships related to graduates and postgraduates. With its required syllabus, please please

  • @Aila289
    @Aila289 16 дней назад +2

    I like both sir

  • @Addy-xv2ns
    @Addy-xv2ns 14 дней назад

    Osama's answers were real and practical. 💯

  • @ubaidullah-rq1yn
    @ubaidullah-rq1yn 13 дней назад

    Nice

  • @saeedsaid4170
    @saeedsaid4170 15 дней назад +2

    Pakistan Ka asal masla corruption han Dubai leaks ma 12.2 bn $ Kaha sa ai. Es per bath Karo ye han asal issue 😢

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад

      Bhai ghar bhi jana hota he 😂

  • @aashirjutt786
    @aashirjutt786 3 дня назад

    🎉

  • @Gmjamali99
    @Gmjamali99 15 дней назад +1

    Usama is right because aisay kahein nahein jana chahiye. Sab kuch dekh kar jaein apnay aap m bhi skill ya qabliyat honi chahiye warna kal ko rul jaeingy pardes m.😂😂

  • @KhalidGujjar173635
    @KhalidGujjar173635 14 дней назад

    Both r gem but sir Ahsan ❤

  • @SallmaanKhaan
    @SallmaanKhaan 13 дней назад

    Sir Usama has always references and analytics for his irrational stance 😂😂😅

  • @Play-with-your-thoughts
    @Play-with-your-thoughts 16 дней назад +1

    Sir kindly clear my inquiry, if a person gives 50 to 60 lakh to go abroad for better future or livelihood, then why we do not take risk to invest this amount to start own business event at small budget instead of taking risk to go abroad.

    • @Gmjamali99
      @Gmjamali99 15 дней назад

      Starting bussiness and see the bussiness management in Pakistan is horrible.

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад

      Because you will lose the 50 lakh and more in a business here whereas if you are abroad then you will be able to support people here.

  • @munnazasarja1554
    @munnazasarja1554 6 дней назад

    Usama wao ❤

  • @archonosheen3141
    @archonosheen3141 13 дней назад

    Jb skillful person ko Pakistan m job milti hen. To ye kyn kaha jarha h k bahr Jane s pehle skill polish kren,,, skill ho to Pakistan m hi rahengee..

  • @FahadAli-ty6qc
    @FahadAli-ty6qc 16 дней назад +2

    Very well said sir🙏

  • @sidramalik1401
    @sidramalik1401 16 дней назад +1

    I will second sir Ahsan' s stance. Even a driver in west would have better life style than a high grade officer in Pakistan.

    • @sheikh_in_Vr
      @sheikh_in_Vr 16 дней назад

      So we should all leave our homeland, and move abroad?

    • @leisureclub_
      @leisureclub_ 15 дней назад +1

      @@sheikh_in_Vr lol... homeland .. stop selling this nationalism choooran.. its enough..

    • @sidramalik1401
      @sidramalik1401 15 дней назад

      ​@@sheikh_in_Vrof course whenever you get a chance,grab the opportunity

    • @Iqraabdulrasool39
      @Iqraabdulrasool39 15 дней назад

      ​@@leisureclub_even a person who devoted his whole life for this state is not protected here, inept govt and establishment are pushing them towards hell.
      Basic rights are brutally violated by mafias 🫡

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад +1

      Apki sari izzat or pesa jo yahan kamaya he wo ek police wala chamaat mar k ek dum nikaal sakta he.
      Yes leave the country.
      Ye nationalistic sentiment bech bech k saray workers yahan rakh liay hen inho ne or apnay bachay bahir bhej diay hen

  • @sirammar1999
    @sirammar1999 16 дней назад +4

    Sir Osama is love😍

  • @haseebamjid3509
    @haseebamjid3509 15 дней назад

    Sir Usama is on right side

  • @Ramsha241
    @Ramsha241 16 дней назад +1

    Sir ahsan tariq best❤

  • @Feast-fusion
    @Feast-fusion 5 дней назад

    ARE THEY DEBATIG OR FIGHTING 😂😂?

  • @nehazahra1234
    @nehazahra1234 15 дней назад

    Sir mjy b debate me shamil krlein

  • @muhammadbilal.1162
    @muhammadbilal.1162 16 дней назад +1

    Bring more😊

  • @MujtabaKhan-ps4fh
    @MujtabaKhan-ps4fh 15 дней назад +1

    Osama sir , jo be bol rhy hy Bher jany k haq mai ajaty hy, jbke sir k statement hy k baher nai jana chahe …. Contradicting his real stance- baheer nai jana chahe.
    To conclude, baher jaana chahe, odr agr waiter be edr k professor se ache kamae hote hy. 😅

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад

      Ese hi krte hen ye hamesha 😎

  • @wiseinvestpk
    @wiseinvestpk 12 дней назад

    To Dear Ahsan!!
    Out Country is already Destroyed now the point of few is that people should he back in the country especially the youth & that should rebuilt the country! If we are sending our youth to other countries we can not make leaders to fight for us to get back the freedom of speech & we can not even produce life quality for our future generations!! We can make our life better individually by going out of the country but we cannot withdraw our country from this crises without coming back after learning good enough skills to implement in our own country! Anyways arguments given by usama are very poor & mixed he was not clear in his stance!!

  • @TheAvivaie
    @TheAvivaie 15 дней назад

    Osama bhai ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @saadarif5716
    @saadarif5716 16 дней назад +2

    Trio ❤

  • @javaidm7092
    @javaidm7092 15 дней назад

    G

  • @studyiqpakistan311
    @studyiqpakistan311 12 дней назад

    green suite wala bhai bikul logicless insan ha .. isny koi RnD ni ha .. bs bolta ja rha ha

  • @nothingness3136
    @nothingness3136 15 дней назад +1

    So many flaws in the debate. So unfortunate.

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад

      Bhai bari ghalti ho gai. Ap bta den kis topic pe bat kren or kta bat kren

    • @nothingness3136
      @nothingness3136 15 дней назад

      @@despicablecon You were doing good. But All I am saying is that whatever you were debating had already been written in the articles/opinion pieces. Your debate lacked original/thought-provoking ideas. Your own input and contemplation on the issue was missing. More power to you, by the way.

    • @nothingness3136
      @nothingness3136 15 дней назад

      Although it was a debate not a discussion. Both disciplines are quite different, but both of you should have presented your own take which was not when you just reproducing the thoughts of experts... I hope you get it.

    • @despicablecon
      @despicablecon 15 дней назад

      Well if people are not willing to believe in the thoughts of experts (whose ideas we presented) then what should they believe in ?
      The ideas for leaving or staying will remain the same irrespective of who says it.

    • @nothingness3136
      @nothingness3136 15 дней назад

      @@despicablecon Got your point. I acknowledged....

  • @RaufKhan-n2u
    @RaufKhan-n2u 10 дней назад

    total drama 😂

  • @literarybaloch294
    @literarybaloch294 12 дней назад

    First time suni
    Kya bakwas arguments hain