DIY ICF Walls, So easy a GIRL can do it;-)
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2021
- In this video I introduce you to my wife Christina who is a super real estate broker but has very little experience around any construction related skills... Her and I have been planning our master bedroom addition for over 2 years and finally have begun and will be bringing you step by step videos, the first several will focus on ICF and lite deck solutions that I obviously prefer anyway but these videos will focus on just how easy these products make it to DIY a project from the ground up! Christina takes my instructions and kills it as she does the lion share of the stacking and bracing with me and then she pours most of the walls with me filming! She did great!
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This is exactly what people need to be told. Obviously people need to have their heads screwed on so as not to be complacent, but there's money to be saved in doing some of the easier parts like the initial stack before maybe using experienced contractors for the more daunting bits.
Exactly the point of these vids! I try to be transparent about things you should, could, or should not take on!
I want to start building my home in AZ using ICF within the next 3-6 months. I was able to find a builder in my area who is currently building a house with ICF. I asked him if I could give him some free labor so I could learn. He was nice enough to let me help. I have learned quite a bit. I have help a total of three days on and off including concrete pour day. I witnessed a blow-out and helped repair it. I would highly recommend trying to do the same. I feel more confident about doing my own. Can you do a video on the approximate savings % by doing it yourself as opposed to having somebody do it. I know there are certain variables and it could fluctuate. I really appreciate the content. keep it coming please!!
Great job Christina!!!
Just found your channel and subscribed! Love the content and delivery style! keep em coming!
Great job and thanks to Christina. She will inspire many
Hope so! Thanks!
very nice. Well done bringing her along Great example.
thanks guys and Christina
You said Missouri and my ears perked up. lol I want to take my bungalow and raise it and put this foundation underneath it. Great wife you have there. Tell her thank you for getting you on video here!
Nice content man! Thinking of doing ICF on a DIY home build for my family this summer. Cost vs stick build seems like a no-brainer! Thanks for the info!
Thanks! If you are diy-ing it it’s an absolute no brainer... in a normal market with reasonable lumber this method is more, still worth it... but when u cut labor out with this thst maybe you can’t cut out with stick frame because you need so much more equipment and muscle... it’s starts making even more sense!
Great video
Nice work. I been considering building my house with icf. I am a student of the creators of ICF. They was 2 teachers in Orleans Ontario Canada. At first I was like it will never work.then I saw a few new homes with it.and then it was like hey how much cost the gas bill is here? She said 38$ a month when my bill was 550 for 3 months for x2 the size her place was but she had icf so power outage in winter and a simple 12 candles kept the place nice for 8 hours. It was - 15 c now I know the value
Christina should be in all of your videos! I'd love to have an ICF home.
I agree, for someone who talks a lot she’s pretty camera shy lol
Great content. Thanks for the information. We just moved our custom construction business to the Branson area and are starting a 28 home nightly rental sub. ICF might be the answer for some of the walkout basements.
Give me a shout!
can you link the video to the second part of this video? I can not find it! pretty awesome, after seeing this video I wanna build my house by myself!:)
I have been considering doing an ICF addition on my lake house in PA. I recently had the placed jacked up and an ICF Basement put in and was very impressed with the process until it was finished and a few weeks later I started to have water coming in at the base of the floor in a few areas. Nudura is what was used and they did put in drainage and water proofing. The floor was poured first like in the addition you are doing. Haven’t been able to get the contractor back to look at and fix the problem. Finding reliable and trustworthy contractors these days is ridiculous. I really enjoy your videos and explanations about DIY.
Does the drain pipe gravity flow to daylight or a pump? If it does that should be a less resistant path than through the cold joint... so wondering if the drain doesn’t have anywhere to go...
Yes, the drain comes out to daylight on both sides of the cottage. Never see any water coming out. Really strange..
If I have a 24 x 80ft 12/12 single gable roof, can I use timber frame for the cathedral roof in the great room and then use floor joists above the 2 rooms at either end to create livable attics above them? Would a SIPS panel roof work here?
Id be using heat pump ac/heat so no duct work issues.
A few questions... Did you do 4 ft lifts and vibrate the concrete? How long did the pour take? Can you share what you did for exterior waterproofing?
Question:
On other videos, I've seen people say to not overlap vertical seams between the block (to allow for adjustments), but I see that you have overlapping seams, and I wonder if you have a specific reason for doing it that way?
I see a number of folks w videos use expanding foam to seal the bottom and other areas. In the Great Stuff products, they have several expansion rates. I know the "regular" red-can Stuff will expand w force. What about the expansion of the spray foam moving/raising the blocks?
The ICF specs recommend pouring no more than 4’ in a pass and internally vibrating the concrete in each pass as you go.
Thank you, I’d never heard that before! I should be good to go now;)
Thanks from uk
Do you address the cost of bracing at any point? Just found your channel. Thanks.
Could you do a segment sometime discussing your tips and recommendations you would have for a couple that was considering pursuing doing their own ICF work? I would think having an experienced person supervising the work would be very helpful, but I am not sure how you would find such a person (especially in this crazy building economy).
That’s kind of what this series is meant to be, I’ll try to get into more details regarding that but it’s going to vary rom market to market
This is a great question and cuts right to the core of why this is an amazing video. The camaraderie and love for one another seem here is rare and what i'd say i think engendered your query but i think what might also be going on is two people partnered up to get it done with one very experienced and the other full of confidence in themselves and their experienced other also made it.
Dude, I'm sendin' my wife to ya for retraining. I don't have the patience, but after 35 years I'm also not gonna cut the pie in half, so I'm lookin' to improve my ROI. Can ya help a brother out? lol
Love your videos. Subbed.
Lol! I doubt I can help you out haha! We bought a remod a while back to do “ourselves” which quickly turned into “myself” lol, she did offer the advice that I bought the wrong color gray last night so there’s that🤷🏻♂️
Have you ever worked with quad-lock? A little more work setting the blocks, but the corners are SOLID
I haven’t but I’ve looked at them in the plant, those nubs are busy, I bet they are a little harder to stack because of that but once they’re placed they look like they’d hold great, and I’ve never had a problem with any corners outside of nudura, and only a couple out of them
Is your addition being attached to a stick frame home? I am looking to do a similar build but I have not been able to find any advice on attaching an ICF structure to a stick frame home.
Yes, at the moment I am still below grade, but I will get back to the sheathing and put tar paper over it, and pour right to it, I’ll detail that out in my next vid, I’ve been slammed with clients work but am hoping to set the light deck this weekend and go on up!
No rebar coming out of the floor?
Did you waterproof the outside of the foam or use anything to protect the foam? Have heard and saw some studies on issues with insects and water 💦 filtration from the back fill...
I’m using a couple things to “waterproof”, the goal should really be to give the ground water a path to a French drain that’s easier than through your concrete, that’s the basic premise... so first thing I do is put xypex admix into the concrete at the plant to waterproof the concrete from the inside, then in my case I’m going to put dimpled plastic around the whole thing so any water that reaches the icf has an easy path all the way down to the French drain... I’ll show it in a later video!
I don’t worry much about bugs, it’s more of an intelligent landscaping issue, icf puts wood much higher up and harder to get too, but they worry that IF there is an infestation due to vegetation growing on the house or wood stacked right against your house it would be harder to detect or treat... feels to me like people in other industries looking to poke holes in a superior product personally as I’ve been using it heavily for 9 years and I’ve never seen the issue, and I don’t know anybody locally who has...
So other ICF vids have said not to put ICF underground because termites can tunnel in and you won't know it and they will tunnel up to the rafters. Your take on that?
I have no real opinion on termites, I’ve been using icf since 2013 and have 0 issues, we pretreat, but ultimately termite infestations in my area are always the fault of really poor landscape management... plants of ivy right up on the sides of the house near the sills... wood chips right up against the house ect... The big companies that claim no warranties with termite treatment with icf also void the warranty for any of the above so what’s the warranty really worth to begin with... they really only make the case that they are harder to detect, I would also make the case that they are harder to get since your wood is now 10’ off the ground at roof level instead of 1’ off the ground at the sills... but it really comes down to smart landscaping IMO
How high could you go using that bracing with foxblocks? Can you do a 12 ft wall that you can pour in 1 day?
Most icf manufacturers don’t recommend going over 15’ in one pour, but once you have the feel for the mix and the slump and the timing you can easily do more... The tallest single pour I’ve done was 19’, but another guy around here did 23’ with monopour footings! I’ve yet to have a need to try that but it would require some attention to the slump and mix
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 thank you.
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 I'm a mixer driver here in Utah, so I'm very familiar with the mixes and slump of concrete. Since i can get concrete at just above cost I'm building my house with icf next year. So when you do a monopour do you just order the first few trucks for the footing stiffer and then when you get to the walls you have them come wetter? If i want to do a monopour with my footings and walls 20ft tall, what mix and slump do you recommend?
Thanks for all your vids, i just found you and I'm binge watching (while getting loaded/un loaded 🤣😂) and you have a new subscriber now
Did you not have rebar going from the slab to connecting the ICF walls? Wouldn’t you want those for strength?
I do, if u slow down the time lapse you will see them, I typically drill and epoxy my pegs because it’s pretty hard to hit the center of an 8” web perfectly, less forgiving than a wide open plywood form in that way...
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 We just formed and poured an ICF home this week in a tornado prone area. Vertical rebar was in the slab every 18” with a 2nd vertical 8’ rebar inserted every 2’ after the ICF blocks were completed. Horizontal rebar was added one each row of blocks and in each corner. The blocks used separate inside and outside panels with plastic braces added manually (very quick and easy). The location of the vertical rebar was not an issue at all. There were also metal channels that the panels fit into that were attached to the slab and atop the completed walls.
what brand turnbuckles are u using attache dto the 2x4 ????
Zont and zuckles by fab form, those dudes are legit!
why switch from nudura to fox block for main level area?
I ran out of Nudura from old jobs and I get a way better deal on fox, at least at that time…. Things seem to be leveling out some in regards to pricing if you can find the reps who favor volume over margin…
You two make a nice couple.
No rebar pinned to footer?
Drill and epoxy
Do u vibrate the concrete ???
Yes
How many blocks were used total?
I don’t know, Nudura basement and foxblocks main level…. Around 1000sqft total
Thanks for changing the headline.!!
It’s a joke, written by a girl🤷🏻♂️
A girl who speaks 5 languages, has two masters degrees and who’s resume dunks on mine;)
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Right! There’s Hell to pay if we write that without pre-approval.
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 Same here! You like smart women like I do. My sons don’t yet realize how much their mother has accomplished in life …puts daddies resume to shame.
When is part 2 going to happen!
Lol laying lite deck this weekend! It’s pool season and we are burning the candle at both ends:)
Can you do an addition of ICF to a traditional home?
That’s what this is! We are actually doing the last pour tomorrow morning, vid should be up next weekend!
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 ok thanks
You've completely Americanized her...
Not remotely lol
And she has totally made him worldly. Synergy is rare but this video shows it.
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 It'd be awesome to hear all the ways you've become more because of your relationship. This video makes me see you two as an amazing example of the why cross-cultural relationships are so important.
I would be afraid to ask wife how much experience you have......
😂😂😂
She had to be pretty scared over in that lockdown
She handled it better than I would have lol
Well being a certified icf installer ,I can tell u they have missed a lot of things here..important ones as well....they should be 10m rebar coming out of the slab every 16 inches (depending on backfill heights) over laps of rebar should be 40x diameter and I didn't see and corner rebar also overlapped 40x diameter.....they did stagger interior rebar correctly and put vertical in between....he has had blowouts in corner because of the way he is pouring In the corner...(never pour directly into the corner) pour so.it flows to the corner ....over all.it turned out but I bet if you checked nudura engineering specs on rebar, you would see this is not done to their engineers specs
I know that card nudura gives you for your wallet after you install a couple jobs makes you the authority lol, but there are certified epoxied in every 32”, which is what’s called for per nudura s engineering and well beyond the codes in my area... if you pause the time lapse you will see them... we cut a key way under the wall to double up on the water prevention, so we had to drill them after the fact... and I’ve poured a ton of blocks, worked shows with multiple companies, and talked to dozens more over the years, nudura corners are regarded in the industry as a huge weak link... and what you say I should have done, I highlight in the vid...😆
Seriously?! Thats a teensy bit chauvinistic, dont ya think? Anything to do with her being Asian maybe?
Wow, you are super dumb;)
Dude:
I appreciate the video; but this is not DIY. Even if you stand 50ft away, and only watch her doing it, it will not be considerate DIY; let alone you helping her in the easy taks, and doing all of the hard taks.
Thanks any ways for the video.
The videos aren’t meant to mean I’m Everyman in regards to construction but are meant to demonstrate the diy-ability of these products... I can’t think of a better way to demonstrate other than doing a project with only my wife, with no specialized tools, and letting her doing the pour portion... I posted a diy pool video a couple weeks ago making the same points, that some things are doable and some aren’t so much... where we might be headed with inflation sweat equity may become a bigger piece of home ownership, so I’m simply making the point that icf gives much more flexibility to cut out some larger labor line items in a budget, if you are so inclined
@@cuttingedgehomes9251 did see vibration to settle concrete was it done?
Change your title, its an insult to women in the trades.
A girl made the vid🤷🏻♂️