This is very much a personal preference; although I would NEVER use an open system like the PIS Advanced used. I see no issue with a closed system, as long as all parts are replaced (such as tubing and silicone parts) or sterilized (flanges, bottles, etc). I ordered a PIS Max-Flow through insurance and that was a mistake. My sister luckily had a Motif Luna and I used that for awhile, but it wasn’t the battery powered version, so I was able to get my hands on a used Spectra S1 and I love it! I replaced all of the parts and it’s by fair my favorite. Also, I don’t know if I would use a used wearable as they can be harder to clean.
I hear you for sure. We’ve opened up enough breast pumps that were pretty gross on the inside despite being a closed system that I still don’t feel comfortable recommending it from a professional role. I definitely think some pumps can hold up a bit better than others though!
@@NewLittleLife oh absolutely! As a professional, I think it would be irresponsible to recommend a used pump! I think education is key though! I just commented on a mom who was selling tubing with water marks in them and I commented letting her know she probably shouldn’t do that and why and she thanked me because she had no idea! Had I been more educated about pumps before I made my insurance selection, I definitely would have upgraded from a Medela PIS. But that also doesn’t mean every mom has the ability to do that. I get insurance is a business, but with how much society shoves breast feeding down our throats, insurance should cover in full higher end pumps or allow for coverage of renting a multi-user pump like the Medela Symphony. Yes you can make any pump “work,” but as someone who exclusively pumped for the first several weeks of my child’s life, a good pump matters!
I bought a spectra s2 from offerup and she said it wasn't used. But everything was open. I still bought all the accessories on Amazon because they weren't too expensive and just now checked the hours it had been used..which was zero. Still happy with my purchase. I'm waiting on a more portable one from my insurance that will come soon. I just want to be set when my baby comes may 7th😊
What most people do not realize is that mothers who are not insured, or have limited means depend on used breast pumps. Even organizations like La Leche League have a breast pump recycling programs. Most mothers on their last dollar are appreciative of even having a used pump because it is all within their means. perhaps, breast pumps need to have an additional back flow protector to give standard pumps a long life but that may kill the industry. Yes, bacteria and contaminants are a big concern but try to see yourself without a pump, and screaming babies in your home. Next time, give someone hope, and think about it.
I hear you, but just because people want something or are already doing it, doesn’t make it a good or safe option. There are other alternatives that may be safer options for mothers. Hand pumps are inexpensive, renting a multiuser pump at a small monthly cost, and formula are all alternatives to be considered as well.
Why wouldn’t we consider all the options? 🤷🏼♀️ Everything has its pros and cons! For a baby with a compromised immune system or who’s premature, I’d definitely consider formula as an viable alternative along with the other options i mentioned. At least worth taking about.
@@adrijanaww4607 formula is sterile and safe. You never know how a used pump was treated, especially if you get it off of like facebook marketplace. So yes, formula is a safer option than a used pump and is covered under WIC.
I believe they are good for up to 1500 hours, but the problem is, if you have an S1, leaving it plugged in apparently ups the hours. For instance, I was given a Spectra S1 and it had over 1900 hours on it, but I also have a Spectra S1 with only 159 hours on it and I like the 1900 hour one better.
I got a used medela pump in style advanced pump but Im confused because on the medela website it says they use the term over flow protection rather then closed system. This pump has a over flow protection at the pump so would it be ok to use technically?
I bought a used Medela pump in style because I couldn't afford a new one a few years ago. I also tossed all flanges and tubing parts and ordered all new. It was FINE 🙂. Old milk in a motor would smell nasty and honestly too much would ruin the motor. With all new parts, the odds of contamination are extremely small. Bacteria would have to travel up the new tubing and back into your milk IF there even was contamination and spectra is a closed pump system, so that isn't even supposed to be able to happen to begin with.
The FDA says no, but with a closed system, the risks are pretty low and people do do it quite often. It’s up to you! There’s a few other factors to consider as I mentioned, but at the end of the day it’s your call! An open system pump is a no-go for sure in my opinion, but the spectra 2 is not that.
While I agree that pumping, esp at work/for working moms is super difficult and a luxury convenience (which is really one of many problems w our society) If argue that pumping w a good pump isn’t as out of reach as you say. The normal spectra pumps work great and if you have insurance usually can be free or w a copay, mine was 50$. Those wireless pumps don’t necessarily work better than the normal non luxury one. Just a little more convenient.
Now if you don’t have insurance than yes it’s definitely much harder to afford any pump. That’s why I don’t knock the buy trade sell bc it can help ppl in need.
I agree because Crib Death is very real but also consider that most do not understand nor have the luxury to choose otherwise. I would also replace the entire crib ith every new birth along with everything else. However, that is talking from a position of having the means to do so. A good idea is to make a vacuum piston to go on the line stopping bacteria from entering the milk supply. Also, require manufacturers to put another backflow on the pump end. Just look at eBay, used sells like hotcakes.
My insurance only covers one pump over a lifetime. Seems they think pumps can be used through multiple children. I would also say in a world where the women who make the least amount of income tend to be the women who have the least amount of maternity leave ( my husband worked with a woman who literally couldn’t afford to take her 6 weeks and had her doctor write a note saying she could return to work in 4), also in a world where insurance companies may or may not cover a new pump for every child, this advice is going to force impoverished babies into formula. If a woman can’t pay her bills she certainly can’t afford a new breast pump, and if she is at a job that barely accommodates her pumping schedule she isn’t going to want to sit to manually pump multiple times a day because it takes longer. This makes it seem like only babies born to mothers who have money are entitled to breast milk which literally comes free out of their mothers. Breast milk shouldn’t be a privilege, it should be available to all children regardless of the socioeconomic status of their parents.
This is very much a personal preference; although I would NEVER use an open system like the PIS Advanced used.
I see no issue with a closed system, as long as all parts are replaced (such as tubing and silicone parts) or sterilized (flanges, bottles, etc).
I ordered a PIS Max-Flow through insurance and that was a mistake. My sister luckily had a Motif Luna and I used that for awhile, but it wasn’t the battery powered version, so I was able to get my hands on a used Spectra S1 and I love it! I replaced all of the parts and it’s by fair my favorite.
Also, I don’t know if I would use a used wearable as they can be harder to clean.
I hear you for sure. We’ve opened up enough breast pumps that were pretty gross on the inside despite being a closed system that I still don’t feel comfortable recommending it from a professional role. I definitely think some pumps can hold up a bit better than others though!
@@NewLittleLife oh absolutely! As a professional, I think it would be irresponsible to recommend a used pump!
I think education is key though! I just commented on a mom who was selling tubing with water marks in them and I commented letting her know she probably shouldn’t do that and why and she thanked me because she had no idea!
Had I been more educated about pumps before I made my insurance selection, I definitely would have upgraded from a Medela PIS. But that also doesn’t mean every mom has the ability to do that. I get insurance is a business, but with how much society shoves breast feeding down our throats, insurance should cover in full higher end pumps or allow for coverage of renting a multi-user pump like the Medela Symphony.
Yes you can make any pump “work,” but as someone who exclusively pumped for the first several weeks of my child’s life, a good pump matters!
100%!!! 💙
I bought a spectra s2 from offerup and she said it wasn't used. But everything was open. I still bought all the accessories on Amazon because they weren't too expensive and just now checked the hours it had been used..which was zero. Still happy with my purchase. I'm waiting on a more portable one from my insurance that will come soon. I just want to be set when my baby comes may 7th😊
Great! 👍🏼
What most people do not realize is that mothers who are not insured, or have limited means depend on used breast pumps. Even organizations like La Leche League have a breast pump recycling programs. Most mothers on their last dollar are appreciative of even having a used pump because it is all within their means. perhaps, breast pumps need to have an additional back flow protector to give standard pumps a long life but that may kill the industry. Yes, bacteria and contaminants are a big concern but try to see yourself without a pump, and screaming babies in your home. Next time, give someone hope, and think about it.
I hear you, but just because people want something or are already doing it, doesn’t make it a good or safe option. There are other alternatives that may be safer options for mothers. Hand pumps are inexpensive, renting a multiuser pump at a small monthly cost, and formula are all alternatives to be considered as well.
@NewLittleLife Formula over used pump??? Safer???
Why wouldn’t we consider all the options? 🤷🏼♀️ Everything has its pros and cons! For a baby with a compromised immune system or who’s premature, I’d definitely consider formula as an viable alternative along with the other options i mentioned. At least worth taking about.
So cara cups can't be used with spectra pumps even though that's what they're marketed for?
@@adrijanaww4607 formula is sterile and safe. You never know how a used pump was treated, especially if you get it off of like facebook marketplace. So yes, formula is a safer option than a used pump and is covered under WIC.
I actually decided to get rid of my old PISA from my previous babies. I dont want to risk it so wildly. But i will be using my old Spectra
What’s the standard hour life for the spectra..? Mine has 167 hours 😅
I believe they are good for up to 1500 hours, but the problem is, if you have an S1, leaving it plugged in apparently ups the hours. For instance, I was given a Spectra S1 and it had over 1900 hours on it, but I also have a Spectra S1 with only 159 hours on it and I like the 1900 hour one better.
I got a used medela pump in style advanced pump but Im confused because on the medela website it says they use the term over flow protection rather then closed system. This pump has a over flow protection at the pump so would it be ok to use technically?
Which Medela pump in style? The Max flow or the original?
I know you said it’s not a good idea to use a used pump. I got a used spectra s2 and I bought all new tubing etc. is it too dangerous to use it?
I bought a used Medela pump in style because I couldn't afford a new one a few years ago. I also tossed all flanges and tubing parts and ordered all new. It was FINE 🙂. Old milk in a motor would smell nasty and honestly too much would ruin the motor. With all new parts, the odds of contamination are extremely small. Bacteria would have to travel up the new tubing and back into your milk IF there even was contamination and spectra is a closed pump system, so that isn't even supposed to be able to happen to begin with.
The FDA says no, but with a closed system, the risks are pretty low and people do do it quite often. It’s up to you! There’s a few other factors to consider as I mentioned, but at the end of the day it’s your call! An open system pump is a no-go for sure in my opinion, but the spectra 2 is not that.
While I agree that pumping, esp at work/for working moms is super difficult and a luxury convenience (which is really one of many problems w our society) If argue that pumping w a good pump isn’t as out of reach as you say. The normal spectra pumps work great and if you have insurance usually can be free or w a copay, mine was 50$. Those wireless pumps don’t necessarily work better than the normal non luxury one. Just a little more convenient.
Now if you don’t have insurance than yes it’s definitely much harder to afford any pump. That’s why I don’t knock the buy trade sell bc it can help ppl in need.
People do buy sell trade pumps quite often! My only goal here was to highlight the pros and cons :) I agree, the expensive pumps aren’t always better!
I agree because Crib Death is very real but also consider that most do not understand nor have the luxury to choose otherwise. I would also replace the entire crib ith every new birth along with everything else. However, that is talking from a position of having the means to do so. A good idea is to make a vacuum piston to go on the line stopping bacteria from entering the milk supply. Also, require manufacturers to put another backflow on the pump end. Just look at eBay, used sells like hotcakes.
Can you please do a review on the motif aura that came out? ❤
Working on it!!
My insurance only covers one pump over a lifetime. Seems they think pumps can be used through multiple children. I would also say in a world where the women who make the least amount of income tend to be the women who have the least amount of maternity leave ( my husband worked with a woman who literally couldn’t afford to take her 6 weeks and had her doctor write a note saying she could return to work in 4), also in a world where insurance companies may or may not cover a new pump for every child, this advice is going to force impoverished babies into formula. If a woman can’t pay her bills she certainly can’t afford a new breast pump, and if she is at a job that barely accommodates her pumping schedule she isn’t going to want to sit to manually pump multiple times a day because it takes longer. This makes it seem like only babies born to mothers who have money are entitled to breast milk which literally comes free out of their mothers. Breast milk shouldn’t be a privilege, it should be available to all children regardless of the socioeconomic status of their parents.