Which Civ has the Strongest Siege Onager | Age of Empire 2

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Let's take a look on the best siege onagers in age of empires and try to find which civilization has the strongest. The strongest candidates are the Mongols with 50% faster moving siege workshop units, the Celts with fast creation time and faster attack rate, the Koreans with extra mangonel line range and the Teutons with extra melee armor. There are more civs like Dravidians, Ethiopians, Tatars and Portuguese and are put to the test against each other.
    What are you thoughts?

Комментарии • 59

  • @gatau8391
    @gatau8391 3 месяца назад +15

    The answer, is of course, the Hun mangonel

  • @jasonsmith1950
    @jasonsmith1950 3 месяца назад +17

    I wonder where Saracens with their +15% attack (from UT) would fit in.
    I also think that Koreans with their range bonuses (both minimum range and max range) would have an easier time keeping their SO alive (Further range means they're easier to keep away from harm). Also means that they outrange other SOs, so they'd likely win in a straight-up fight (just need to shoot and retreat)

    • @morgs5118
      @morgs5118 3 месяца назад

      In an actual game Koreans are infuriating even before they get up to SO (which you never want). They were especially broken back when their UT gaev them +2 range

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад +2

      I removed saracens the last minute. If I had more that 8 civs available I would have added them. I know they could be at third or even second place but I opted for civs that you rarely see being compared.

    • @elduquecaradura1468
      @elduquecaradura1468 3 месяца назад

      @@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv oh so that's why
      Sarracens would be too generic in most deals except in destroying buildings

  • @elduquecaradura1468
    @elduquecaradura1468 3 месяца назад +3

    There is one you forgot to include: Sarracen Siege Onager
    Extra damage per projectile

  • @ezonii
    @ezonii 3 месяца назад

    as a player that just started aoe2 i like these videos a lot! keep em coming

  • @TheLeosMind
    @TheLeosMind Месяц назад

    Koreans have one of the best Onagers if you want to micro them.

  • @RealmOfMelinoe
    @RealmOfMelinoe 3 месяца назад

    Didn't finish video as Saracens were not included

  • @jeroen92
    @jeroen92 3 месяца назад +12

    AI is getting scary good at making videos

  • @the_andrewest_andrew
    @the_andrewest_andrew 3 месяца назад +10

    after watching spirit of the law's videos for so long everyone else seems dumb in comparison

    • @CaveJohnson-ft7lj
      @CaveJohnson-ft7lj 3 месяца назад +4

      Nah, there are other great creators out there. But this channel with its AI narration and its total lack of creativity or personality isn't one of them.

    • @ObiwanNekody
      @ObiwanNekody 3 месяца назад

      Twest is great 👍

  • @radoslavboyanov6511
    @radoslavboyanov6511 2 месяца назад

    why Portugese when Bulgarians have Siege Onager but Portugese dont?

  • @----t----1234
    @----t----1234 3 месяца назад +1

    Mongols and Ethiopians are easily the best IMO although Celts seem to stack the most cumulative bonuses. They still can’t beat how good the speed or blast radius are though

  • @widodoakrom3938
    @widodoakrom3938 3 месяца назад +1

    The winner is celt siege onager

  • @ozberkoz
    @ozberkoz 3 месяца назад +1

    Ferrari SO all the way.

  • @edwinpoon
    @edwinpoon 3 месяца назад +1

    Speed is king.

  • @diallit0
    @diallit0 3 месяца назад +1

    Missing scaracens

  • @jvan6582
    @jvan6582 3 месяца назад

    Hoang shows us all the time Celts✊

  • @flapjacki9579
    @flapjacki9579 2 месяца назад

    What about Saracens?

  • @defeathypocrisy1496
    @defeathypocrisy1496 Месяц назад

    mom

  • @ottoydsurottoyd6638
    @ottoydsurottoyd6638 3 месяца назад

    Nobody uses a onager to destroy building
    Priorities: speed > range > survive 1 oranger shot > more damage (Saracen) > others, because micro accuracy matters vs archer or another onager

  • @eloymitre6226
    @eloymitre6226 3 месяца назад

    Ey guys! spirit of law here!... In this video....

  • @onlyyoucanstopevil9024
    @onlyyoucanstopevil9024 3 месяца назад

    SIEGE ONEGER

  • @TheKobasen
    @TheKobasen 3 месяца назад

    Ironclad is by far the worst when it comes to onager because even with 4 armor, it doesn't always guarantee that your onager will survive.
    When it comes to damage vs building or against a lot of units, Saracens is on the 2nd place.

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      Ironclad is better by a very small degree. Almost unnoticeable. Only against other onagers sometimes works.

  • @Spiror
    @Spiror 3 месяца назад

    Celts are best overall, but many have good bonus……koreans mongols are very good also

  • @pillbox2079
    @pillbox2079 3 месяца назад

    Can you make a video of if Bulgarians had Champions, how they would fare against other nations's champions?
    Thank you!

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      I have many videos about Bulgarians, they are underappreciated, I want to talk about Konnik, the militia bonus, the usage of Krepost. Many videos about them.

    • @pillbox2079
      @pillbox2079 3 месяца назад

      @@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      Super!
      Can't wait to watch them!

  • @kleuafflatus
    @kleuafflatus 3 месяца назад

    I remember the time when the korean one had 12 range...

  • @R-laylay
    @R-laylay 3 месяца назад

    3:09 Round 2 Ethiopians's Mangonel blast range too big, even attack on Mongols target

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад +1

      I talk about ethiopians in the end. It's not a fair comparison for them. They shine in real time playing games rather than test.

  • @santiagojulianlingeri5386
    @santiagojulianlingeri5386 3 месяца назад

    In Pro level Hands, Korean SO. In Noob hands, Celts (They do more damage w/o micro and player's gonna lose them all anyways).
    End of topic

    • @santiagojulianlingeri5386
      @santiagojulianlingeri5386 3 месяца назад

      New topic: Which is the best full arbalest: 1) Briton.- 2) Ethiopian.- 3) Vietnamese.- 4) Italian.- 5) Viking

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад +1

      @@santiagojulianlingeri5386 I will have to check this out soon

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад +1

      Although you are right, there are many players that aren't pros, like me. So in a way you are right

    • @santiagojulianlingeri5386
      @santiagojulianlingeri5386 3 месяца назад

      @@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv 11 Of course man. I go for celts SO too, just saying pros do crazy things with just +1 range

  • @87JJosh
    @87JJosh 3 месяца назад

    First one here!

  • @BestFriendOfDog
    @BestFriendOfDog 3 месяца назад

    nice

  • @m21sup
    @m21sup 3 месяца назад +1

    My dude, i get that you're trying to do a SOTL like channel. But please dont do things like the race between generic (in speed terms) siege onagers bcuz we already know mongols go faster, feels like you're treating the audience as 8 y/o kids. And separate the units when you're doing attack tests like in 3:28 so other units dont rush in

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      No I don't try to be like SOTL, he has match deeper knowledge of the mechanics than I do.
      Not everybody knows that mongols siege onagers are the fastest, we are not all high elo players like you here neither 8 years old as well.
      According to your logic I should make a 5 seconds video saying "hey guys, since you know everything, then Celts has the best onager, bye."
      If you feel like you can't watch the videos, while many can, just live your dislike and move along. I don't usually reply to rude comments but there you go.

  • @Varlenus
    @Varlenus 3 месяца назад +1

    Celtic SOs are the best, because they get the bonus right off the bat, and it remains relevant throughout the game.
    Second place goes to the Koreans, because +1 range makes them even more effective against archers, and gives them an edge against bombard cannons. It requires imperial age and a castle though, so the bonus only applies in late game.
    Mongol goes third, as the speed bonus also needs imp and a castle first; but is mostly helpful in microing SOs, which not every player is able to do properly.

  • @majungasaurusaaaa
    @majungasaurusaaaa 3 месяца назад +1

    Slavs. It doesn't matter what setting you play in, cost matters. Even in post imp DM. Every other civs have to pay for extra upgrades to get what they have. Bulgarians also deserve a mention as runner up. Most of the time we don't see SO on 1v1 is because of their brutal upgrade cost.

    • @cesarochoa6724
      @cesarochoa6724 3 месяца назад +1

      The video talks about which civ has the strongest onager, not the most cost-effective

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      Watch round 4😉

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      True to be said, Slavs have a great advantage when playing in real games. But celts are better imo..

  • @MorleyGames1
    @MorleyGames1 3 месяца назад

    Only just started watching but it has to be ethiopians.

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      I talk about them at the end.

    • @jeroen92
      @jeroen92 3 месяца назад +2

      @@DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv well it is not exactly you talking, is it mr AI?

    • @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv
      @DemonAgeOfEmpires2-wf8lv  3 месяца назад

      @@jeroen92 trust me you don't want to hear my voice😅