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You’re making too much of it. Devante said, “if it was up to him”. It’s not up to him. So leave it alone and stop making sound like he and Antonio are at odds.
@@barrettfischer238 he played one quarter as AP allowed each QB to orchestrate in the game. It was drive given the poor OL line play from the left side. He played well and did Menshew. I neither QB outplayed the other.
It's because you are an idiot, you are implying Minshew would suck against starters, and I'm sure you are one of the people screaming we have an elite defense since AP took over, well Minshew just beat our AP lead defense a few months ago.
Who else misses Carr and Gruden? We were building something special man… We would’ve got Adams no matter what, could’ve been contenders. Hindsight is 20/20.
I like the QB situation. At this point I'm fine with O'Connell or Minshew as QB1 or 2. We have 2 capable QB's and Peterman at 3rd string isn't bad either.
Aidan O'Connell played better against the Vikings ..and he is the better quarterback he was more accurate,,he was throwing with anticipation,, just cuz he didn't throw a touchdown on the play he had a shot the receivers messed up wasn't his fault ...minshew was inaccurate nd too quick to break the pocket and give up on plays that are there... it's Aiden O'Connell's job in my opinion, To lose at the moment
@@Organic_Fiend I like Minshew but he didn't look that great. He had a delay of game, he doesn't step up in the pocket and he was rolling out into trouble. He threw a couple nice passes and the deep pass it was like all he had to get it there. He was making some place but it was mostly against 2nd and 3rd strings guys at that point. AOC lead a 98 yard drive, looked pin point accurate, was getting the team to the line. Drive ended when the tackle got blown past. AOC was climbing the pocket and looking at 2nd and 3rd reads. Lots of Minshew was him leaving the pocket for no reason and chucking it down field. After that he was out cause I think the coaching staff saw what they needed.
Tae doesnt have to prove anything yes. But having Tae run routes & opening up the back field will help us see which QB is going to start. His Veteran presence is needed right now to help lead the way for this new Regime. Set the tone for the season.
I wouldnt even throw him the ball, just use him as a decoy on two or 3 plays. Just maintain stability within the organization for the other 1000 people who work for the Las Vegas Raiders. If Mark Davis has shown anything over the past couple years its that no one man is more important than the Las Vegas Raiders, not even him, the owner. He ate crap, got heckled, had to admit he was wrong, explain his actions, eventually listen to the fans etc. So if MARK had to go through all that ( and he is the OWNER), there needs to be continuity with that from the top down. At least to a degree so that everyone on the Raiders is working together on the same page.
He does have some diva moments but keeping him healthy is a smart choice. Just had a kid, I'm sure he wants to stay healthy and play as long as possible
Davante needs to get some reps in. Doesn't matter if he's proved himself. This is the NFL, you have to prove yourself each time and he needs to get a cohesion with the QB and the offense.
I like gruden, but he’s not the coach today he was years ago. As for Carr, he’s missed and while many talk bad of him he was a true pro and far better than anything they have now. Carr with gruden might’ve been better then what they are now, but let’s face it we root for a dumpster fire. Mop top Davis will be what keeps this team at the bottom of the west
The best thing Davante Adams can do is to get very serious about the Jerry Rice workout. He says he wants a long career and to play at Rice’s level. Well, Jerry Rice DID it, and his workout helped a lot. That’s all that really matters. Playing time in preseason isn’t that important for a WR of his caliber. But, he should play a quarter or two.
I see Adam’s side, at the same time though he shouldn’t go up there acting like a diva. He knew Pierce had made the comment about all the first strings playing in the preseason, he wasn’t there last week and then to make the comments he made about not playing with the added attitude about it isn’t cool.
I understand how you say that Gardner Minshew did play a little bit better than O'Connell he played three times the amount of time that O'Connell played you can't say he outplayed him when he was in there three times the amount of time then Aiden O'Connell was everyone is always giving a no carnal the short end of the stick and that's not fair to him
I believe theres a very good middle ground between Coach Pierce and Davante. He really doesn't have to *play* - "play" per se, just to see the field. Not run routes, make catches or throw blocks. You put him out there for 3 or 4 plays and run a fake bubble screen, put him in motion and run a whip route on the opposite side of a flood concept etc. Use him as a decoy for a 3-4 plays then take him out. Its important that the coaches word stand,or you just don't have a coach at this point. Its also important that Davante show up with the rest of the team to strengthen bonds,comraderie and even encourage and help others. Another set of eyes never hurt anyone. If Adams has a *bad feeling* about stepping out there though I'd listen, becquse how does a man play the games, take the hits, run the practices for 20 years or more but NOW youre fearful to even step out there for a series? Even with a contract that has absolute TONS of guaranteed money? MAYBE he has a bad feeling? If so listen. If its just aome "political" move on Adams part to protest the very existence of a preseason in general then youve got *problems*.
AP is Boss. We got a gem in coach....His straight shooting answers are so fresh compared to the last dumbass....Also love the way he answers about injured players. He played a long time so he can shoot it straight with less chance of causing bad player vibes and unnecessary media shit storms.
I don’t care if Tae plays in preseason but regardless if he’s dressed out or not I want to hear that he’s getting lots of reps in & building a rapport with his QBs. It’d be a shame if all this is out there and the season starts and there’s obvious timing issues.
This is the ultimate football conundrum. Trade Adams and you lose one of the best WRs in the game. You keep him and you risk jeopardizing your equality rules. I love Adams. He’a one of my favorite WRs. Played with my boy Carr in college and now plays for my Raiders. I think he would be better off with his boy Aaron. Don’t need the distraction. Unless Raiders start off great and win. Then, I know Adams will be involved and enjoying himself. Best roster in years. But, I say that every year.
What up, Willie. Personally, while I like both QBs and also am rooting for Minshew, I do believe it'll be AOC that gets the gig-not because he's younger, though. Minshew is used to coming in off the bench and performing. While AP says he'll roll with the starter all season, I think he's going to look for a change if the Raiders start off losing.
Gardner should be the starter. He clearly performs better. AOC dinked and dunked and did ok. He was going with first looks and really didn’t hit anyone in stride. When he was near the goal line he backed into a sac! GM TD pass was on the money and he knew he was taking a hit. I like AOC but GM is clearly better!!!!
Imagine if he forces adams to play and he gets hurt. His reputation and respect with the locker room will take a massive hit. Dont let your pride and need to show your in charge lead to a bad ending.
Peterman is very intelligent. Gruden wanted him Eventually to be the QB coach then offensive coordinator ! But a witch hunt ended that ! Peterman will be a player coach !
I want to see Minshew make it happen, he has the ability to extend plays, he never had real talent around him prior to joining the Raiders. He has the talent to catapult himself into another level of top tier QBs. I’m kind of getting low key Rich Gannon Vibes coming Minshews way.
Let give Gardner a chance to win and let O Connell learn he young and if Gardner get injured or perform poorly in quarterback position then let O Connell set the position Raiders Nation!!! Just Win baby!!!
I'm sure AP already knows who the starting qb is going to be but he wants them both to compete in order that the backup will be in a good position to step in should he choose the wrong one or the #1 gets hurt. Also, Devante needn't play in a preseason game. If he were to get hurt AP would be blamed for having him play when he has nothing to gain. AP can just tell the team "when you get as good as Devonte you can miss all preseason games too".
Minshew made more plays because he got more drives, and against lesser defensive competition. He still only completed half of his passes though. Aidan drove the entire length of the field against stronger defensive competition and completed almost all of his passes, despite heavy pass rush pressure.
EVERY TEAM has a few guys that get preferential treatment and damn near every player is ok with their star (proven VET) taking off reps in the preseason in order to be there for you in the regular season. Plus it gives unproven players more of a chance to make the roster with those added reps. Not Controversy no need to marker it sound like one.
I honestly think he's on the right path it's better to get everyone to start warming up and build chemistry between QBs and WR what better practices is there then basically a scrimmage
People put way too much stock in preseason games. Minshew or O'Connell aren't going to have their season performance hinge on 1-2 extra throws to Adams in a vanilla package against a backup DB. This isn't the 70's anymore, stars don't need preseason games to get ready.
What's wrong with these new raiders fans y'all bugging. Davante wasn't bothered by the question Willie also he's not being a diva he just doesn't see the need that's normal. The coach needs to evaluate his team and he knows he is in charge no need to prove nothing so stop it.
AOC literally LOOKS like Tom Brady when dropping back and throwing the ball. Minshew literally looks like Johnny Manziel. No one who's honest can say Minshew looks better behind center. This is purely political by Telesco.
Plot twist coming up: And we are back. Reports reveal that a multi megatrade between the Raiders and New Orleans. Its an exchange of draft capital but mostly players mainly like Derek Carr and his cheap contract would actually be financially sound in the long term while developing a qb or two
How about that Nick Cage as a madden? What do thihk? I thihk no resemblence but lets see what they do. Some Caliendo like impersonation, the hair and proper weight physique, we may be surprised! Boom! And there you have it. "Pulling out the right script up the sleeve at the right moment leads to more points .... Boom! and scoring more points than the other team is the key to winning"
If our offensive line was solid. Id give the nod to occonel. But if we dont want to tank this year minshew prob gives us a better chance since he can extend plays a bit more. But who knows maybe aiden would rise to the occasion.
Hell no 17 don't need no preseason lol. Gruden is the man. I guarantee he'll be back as the Raiders head coach if AP don't work out. I'm all for AP tho but if things don't work out, Gruden will be back as HC.
I feel like they not really competing.....they think this a friendly competition and nobody's thinking to outdo the other to get the starting QB1 🤷🏾♂️
Strange thing...I been a Saints fan all my life for like 35 years but the more time passes, the more I grow to love this team. It all started when Derek came to New Orleans and I *rediscovered* willies channel. The *actual* fanbase ( not any bandwagoner types, or noobs) were awesome people. This may seem funny but I assure you its "dead on balls" accurate. If you dont believe me, try talking to a Cleveland fan ( delusions of grandeur ) or a Eagles fan ( inability to figure out theyre not the Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers,or 49ers. Lol, you aint those guys) or a Jets fan ( ok these peeps are all over the place. Kind of schizoid,on one hand BITTER AS HELL and downtrodden and on the other hand these are the ones who crown themselves SB champs every year during the draft and free agency lol). Not the Raiders though, the Raiders have good fans.
Objectively? Minshew threw a hospital ball and only completed 50% of his passes against 2nd/3rd stringers. Aidan looked better for what we got, I'm sorry lol.
I like both QB's but watching footage Minshew runs to quickly with one glance left and taking off before looking for anyone else. Also when Aidan could've finished the drive off with a touchdown he held the ball. But I'm truly seeing more NFL QB style out of Aidan. Mobile isn't always better especially for the QB. It's only a matter of time until they get hurt. Anthony Brown was Mobile?
I think the idea that Ap and tae are at odds is a far reach. Let’s keep drama out of the locker room this year and just stay positive and committed as a team. These guys all have lives and I’m sure if a linemen had a kid that was just born he would take time off to. Stop making it more than it is a play some football. Keep your head in the game and not in starting drama. Starting drama is for drama queen divas. Let these guys do their thing and as fans let’s give them our support on the decisions they make. RAIDER NATION 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Garner did not play any better than AOC...AOC was 7 for 9 whereas garner was 6 for 12 (not a great completion percentage). Garner makes some great plays but then has passes batted down on screen plays and gets his tight end destroyed. AOC overcame some pretty bad LT play by peat. AOC is the better option because he had more upside and garner does not make the best decisions with the ball.
I don't like it. It's not about you being ready DA. How about giving the new QB some live game speed reps before the season? They sat Carr his last year and we started 2-7. Why even have a preseason? Why not just start for real right away so we can go 0-4 while we get into reg season mode? This not getting hurt excuse is BS. So not being up to game speed and getting hurt game 1 would be better? SMH
It would be smart not to play devonte Adams in the preseason. Do we need to really evaluate him? Nah. Media is blowing that out of proportion and taking it out of context.
@@Nitestalker65 AP should understand why Davante said he doesn't want to play in the preseason... Davante was at home, and saw that 'hospital ball'...I would have given a King's Ransom to see Davante, when he saw that hit!
Send Adam's to the Jets. Rodgers will take him and take care of him... make sure he gets the ball. Jimmy G. put Adam's career at risk, he is at best... a back-up QB. Adam's deserves better than what he got last year!!!!
Why drum up drama? I'm pretty he will do as AP asks him to do.. And have ever thought about his rest days? It was already stated he has been taking his Veteran rest days..
I have to disagree WIFI. Minshew did not out play Aiden in the Viking preseason game because there is no level comparison when Aiden plays ONE series and Minshew plays the rest of the half. So let's be clear about this. Aiden's one series with the "A" teams versus the Vike's first string defense started in the shadow of the Raiders own endzone, at the Raiders 4. Aiden then proceeded to drive the length of the field, clear to the Viking 3 yard line before an untimely sack stalled the drive and they settled for a field goal. That's a 93 yard drive!! In that drive, a methodical and relentless drive, Aiden completed 7 of 9 passes including one picture perfect deep pass to Meyers for 24 yards. In that drive he ate up over 6 minutes. That is exactly the kind of ball control you want. It keeps our D off the field and fresh for when they do come in. The sack wasn't Aiden's fault and probably wouldn't have happened had Colton Miller been healthy and playing left tackle. I also saw where you, WIFI, accused Aiden of throwing the ball too low. Well that only happened once in that drive and if you rewatched it you'd see he threw it low deliberately to protect his receiver. The receiver catches and is low so the safety barrelling down on him isn't going to take his head off and do a Darryl Stingley on him. Aiden was deliberately avoiding a hospital ball. And THAT WIFI is my knock on Minshew. Like Garrappolo, Minshew likes to sail his passes high and it puts his receivers at risk. So what you thought was a negative with Aiden throwing low was actually a positive. Minshew had more opportunities. He ran team 2 against their team 2 D. He had shorter fields that Aiden. He had 3 series to Aiden's 1. We should also note that the Raiders blocked a field goal attempt at the end of the half, with 2 minutes to play, and returned it to the Viking 40. After a 2 yard run, Minshew threw 2 terrible passes, both incomplete, and we had to settle for a field goal. Despite throwing 3 fairly deep passes, Minshew also threw some wounded ducks. Minshew finished with 6 completions on 12 attempts, a pathetic 50% completion rate. Compare that to Aiden's 7 completions on 9 attempts, a 77.8% completion. That's stellar. For a real comparison they both need a series running the no 1 offense against a no 1 D, AND each run a series with the no 2 offense against a no 2 D. Level the conditions to get an accurate picture. As of right now I'd go with Aiden. Getsy runs a version of Gruden's offense he learned from Packers head coach LeFleur, who comes from Gruden's tree. That means timing plays where QBs throw to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be when the ball arrives, and those throws are made from the pocket, not running around playing sand lot football where you make it up as you go. Aiden fits the bill of a disciplined pocket QB with accuracy and a strong arm. Minshew does not. His running around and "winging it" is why he only completed half of his passes.
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You’re making too much of it. Devante said, “if it was up to him”. It’s not up to him. So leave it alone and stop making sound like he and Antonio are at odds.
Because Minshew has actually played well before, while AOC has not played well once.
@@barrettfischer238what’s that got to do with what he said?
@@barrettfischer238 he played one quarter as AP allowed each QB to orchestrate in the game. It was drive given the poor OL line play from the left side. He played well and did Menshew. I neither QB outplayed the other.
Thats what Wifi Willie Does. Create drama for clout
How is completing 50 % of passes against 2nd and 3rd stringers, in your 6th year constitute out playing aoc? I don't get it.
How about having 2nd and 3rd string receivers?
He’s not. AOC should be the starter
It's because you are an idiot, you are implying Minshew would suck against starters, and I'm sure you are one of the people screaming we have an elite defense since AP took over, well Minshew just beat our AP lead defense a few months ago.
@danielsullivan5063 getting a pass batted down on a screen play doesn't make sense either... that happened to garner
@@chickenlittle1117 🤣. Yeah that’s pretty bad
You play when you're told to play
Preach brother 🙌 🙏 👏
Crazy it's been 3 years man. I miss John Gruden
I know, right?!? Three WHOLE --ING YEARS?!? I miss him too… *But, tbh, I think having AP, instead of Chucky, is for the better…*
Love Chucky.
I don’t miss his drafts
What was his record again?….
Gruden is a bum.
That's Code Word from Davante:I saw that 'hospital ball' from home... I'm not playing!😭😭
Devante didn't seem offended. His son was born and he said it's only been a week off.
I think you makin DRAMA outta nothing
I agree
Who else misses Carr and Gruden? We were building something special man… We would’ve got Adams no matter what, could’ve been contenders. Hindsight is 20/20.
I don’t miss Carr lol
This is the worst team in the NFL 😂 Goofy
@@YAK21115carr is better then minshew and O’Connell
The problem happened when Carr broke his leg. He had the yipps after that. Gruden can’t defend his draft picks. They destroyed that roster.
No tf we weren’t. Maybe building something above average. But not special lmao obviously Mcdaniels was a huge downgrade
Adams and Rodgers need each other.
Their egos cancel each other out.
Saw Adams at practice Wednesday catching passes from #12 & #15. Adams is a Pro. If Coach AP would like him to play 1 series, he will.
It's simple! If he's healthy he will play. But if for some reason he catches a cold and is "sick" Then he won't play 😂😂
I can see both sides why adams should kinda play some snaps but i also 100% see it’s a respect thing and adams is way past paying his dues in the NFL
I like the QB situation. At this point I'm fine with O'Connell or Minshew as QB1 or 2.
We have 2 capable QB's and Peterman at 3rd string isn't bad either.
Aidan O'Connell played better against the Vikings ..and he is the better quarterback he was more accurate,,he was throwing with anticipation,, just cuz he didn't throw a touchdown on the play he had a shot the receivers messed up wasn't his fault ...minshew was inaccurate nd too quick to break the pocket and give up on plays that are there... it's Aiden O'Connell's job in my opinion, To lose at the moment
What are u talking about? O'Connell barely gave use 3 points, as soon as minshew goes in we score 17 n offence looks like they were on fire
@@Organic_Fiend I like Minshew but he didn't look that great. He had a delay of game, he doesn't step up in the pocket and he was rolling out into trouble. He threw a couple nice passes and the deep pass it was like all he had to get it there. He was making some place but it was mostly against 2nd and 3rd strings guys at that point. AOC lead a 98 yard drive, looked pin point accurate, was getting the team to the line. Drive ended when the tackle got blown past. AOC was climbing the pocket and looking at 2nd and 3rd reads. Lots of Minshew was him leaving the pocket for no reason and chucking it down field. After that he was out cause I think the coaching staff saw what they needed.
Have to agree with you. AoC has the better arm. Plus Minshaw throw into triple coverage in the last team game. Lucky Tucker still came down with it.
Let’s be honest they both fkn suck and I love my raiders but we not going to do shit till we get a damn legit qb1
lol interesting take
Not worth the in jury risk but I understand AP wanting him to play.
I understand AP saying in a press conference that he wants him to play. Actually forcing him to play is another story.
Minshew had more incomplete passes. That is objective.
Tae doesnt have to prove anything yes. But having Tae run routes & opening up the back field will help us see which QB is going to start. His Veteran presence is needed right now to help lead the way for this new Regime. Set the tone for the season.
Yeah, one series, one target as long as it’s a dart going out of bounds…he does not need to get hurt.
@dominickblancarte2924 if your scared of getting hurt, it is better to just not play. Save him for the superbowl
I wouldnt even throw him the ball, just use him as a decoy on two or 3 plays. Just maintain stability within the organization for the other 1000 people who work for the Las Vegas Raiders. If Mark Davis has shown anything over the past couple years its that no one man is more important than the Las Vegas Raiders, not even him, the owner. He ate crap, got heckled, had to admit he was wrong, explain his actions, eventually listen to the fans etc. So if MARK had to go through all that ( and he is the OWNER), there needs to be continuity with that from the top down. At least to a degree so that everyone on the Raiders is working together on the same page.
i think Davante should play stop being a diva
That’s not a smart move valea
Nah lol Adams is right.
And if he gets hurt you'll be the first one who will blame AP
I get he’s goated but he def a diva n it gets in the way and he knows he’s gettin older so he’s trying to keep the hype up
He does have some diva moments but keeping him healthy is a smart choice. Just had a kid, I'm sure he wants to stay healthy and play as long as possible
Davante needs to get some reps in. Doesn't matter if he's proved himself. This is the NFL, you have to prove yourself each time and he needs to get a cohesion with the QB and the offense.
I like gruden, but he’s not the coach today he was years ago. As for Carr, he’s missed and while many talk bad of him he was a true pro and far better than anything they have now. Carr with gruden might’ve been better then what they are now, but let’s face it we root for a dumpster fire. Mop top Davis will be what keeps this team at the bottom of the west
The best thing Davante Adams can do is to get very serious about the Jerry Rice workout. He says he wants a long career and to play at Rice’s level. Well, Jerry Rice DID it, and his workout helped a lot. That’s all that really matters. Playing time in preseason isn’t that important for a WR of his caliber. But, he should play a quarter or two.
I see Adam’s side, at the same time though he shouldn’t go up there acting like a diva. He knew Pierce had made the comment about all the first strings playing in the preseason, he wasn’t there last week and then to make the comments he made about not playing with the added attitude about it isn’t cool.
I appreciate you keeping up with john gruden its hard to find anything on in the national news. Your content is awesome btw. Im not even a raiders fan
JerryRice NEVER missed a preseason game. That how you get to the Hall.
Who's Jerry Rice.
@whatsup7253 a great Raider. Sorry you missed him.
You just locked yourself in for the top 5 dumbest comment of the year. Congrats. Lol
They always talk about preseason in hof inductions.
@@DankD-j2h some players want to play football. If you don't you'll never be truly great
I understand how you say that Gardner Minshew did play a little bit better than O'Connell he played three times the amount of time that O'Connell played you can't say he outplayed him when he was in there three times the amount of time then Aiden O'Connell was everyone is always giving a no carnal the short end of the stick and that's not fair to him
agreed he was in there 3x as much and still had less completions lol
AOC starting I think. That's why he didn't get as much time
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@@AidansDaddy why do u reply to everything about aidan😂 if u think minshes is way better than AOC then u simply do not know football lmao
@WayyTooRaw you people are a funny people, at least we can laugh at you, so your existence isn't completely worthless.
I believe theres a very good middle ground between Coach Pierce and Davante. He really doesn't have to *play* - "play" per se, just to see the field. Not run routes, make catches or throw blocks. You put him out there for 3 or 4 plays and run a fake bubble screen, put him in motion and run a whip route on the opposite side of a flood concept etc. Use him as a decoy for a 3-4 plays then take him out. Its important that the coaches word stand,or you just don't have a coach at this point. Its also important that Davante show up with the rest of the team to strengthen bonds,comraderie and even encourage and help others. Another set of eyes never hurt anyone. If Adams has a *bad feeling* about stepping out there though I'd listen, becquse how does a man play the games, take the hits, run the practices for 20 years or more but NOW youre fearful to even step out there for a series? Even with a contract that has absolute TONS of guaranteed money? MAYBE he has a bad feeling? If so listen. If its just aome "political" move on Adams part to protest the very existence of a preseason in general then youve got *problems*.
A. Brown will make the team as a WR in the practice squad
AP should have said, “if I were Adams, I would say that too.”
I love your show willie! Really enjoy your perspective man.
AP is Boss. We got a gem in coach....His straight shooting answers are so fresh compared to the last dumbass....Also love the way he answers about injured players. He played a long time so he can shoot it straight with less chance of causing bad player vibes and unnecessary media shit storms.
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I don’t care if Tae plays in preseason but regardless if he’s dressed out or not I want to hear that he’s getting lots of reps in & building a rapport with his QBs. It’d be a shame if all this is out there and the season starts and there’s obvious timing issues.
This is the ultimate football conundrum. Trade Adams and you lose one of the best WRs in the game. You keep him and you risk jeopardizing your equality rules. I love Adams. He’a one of my favorite WRs. Played with my boy Carr in college and now plays for my Raiders. I think he would be better off with his boy Aaron. Don’t need the distraction. Unless Raiders start off great and win. Then, I know Adams will be involved and enjoying himself. Best roster in years. But, I say that every year.
What up, Willie. Personally, while I like both QBs and also am rooting for Minshew, I do believe it'll be AOC that gets the gig-not because he's younger, though. Minshew is used to coming in off the bench and performing. While AP says he'll roll with the starter all season, I think he's going to look for a change if the Raiders start off losing.
Nothing against Gardner Minshew but I am rooting for a note, to become the starting quarterback I really have trust in faith in him
Gardner should be the starter. He clearly performs better. AOC dinked and dunked and did ok. He was going with first looks and really didn’t hit anyone in stride. When he was near the goal line he backed into a sac! GM TD pass was on the money and he knew he was taking a hit. I like AOC but GM is clearly better!!!!
Imagine if he forces adams to play and he gets hurt. His reputation and respect with the locker room will take a massive hit. Dont let your pride and need to show your in charge lead to a bad ending.
@@Blove4592 Davante saw that 'hospital ball' from home and said... I'm straight!😆
Peterman is very intelligent. Gruden wanted him
Eventually to be the QB coach then offensive coordinator ! But a witch hunt ended that ! Peterman will be a player coach !
I want to see Minshew make it happen, he has the ability to extend plays, he never had real talent around him prior to joining the Raiders. He has the talent to catapult himself into another level of top tier QBs. I’m kind of getting low key Rich Gannon Vibes coming Minshews way.
Let give Gardner a chance to win and let O Connell learn he young and if Gardner get injured or perform poorly in quarterback position then let O Connell set the position Raiders Nation!!! Just Win baby!!!
I'm sure AP already knows who the starting qb is going to be but he wants them both to compete
in order that the backup will be in a good position to step in should he choose the wrong one or the #1 gets hurt.
Also, Devante needn't play in a preseason game. If he were to get hurt AP would be blamed for having him play when he has nothing to gain. AP can just tell the team
"when you get as good as Devonte you can miss all preseason games too".
Hell no! Adam's has nothing to prove and that would be stupid to play him.
Do not get Adam’s hurt for the love of god!🤯🚨
Minshew made more plays because he got more drives, and against lesser defensive competition. He still only completed half of his passes though. Aidan drove the entire length of the field against stronger defensive competition and completed almost all of his passes, despite heavy pass rush pressure.
EVERY TEAM has a few guys that get preferential treatment and damn near every player is ok with their star (proven VET) taking off reps in the preseason in order to be there for you in the regular season. Plus it gives unproven players more of a chance to make the roster with those added reps. Not Controversy no need to marker it sound like one.
I honestly think he's on the right path it's better to get everyone to start warming up and build chemistry between QBs and WR what better practices is there then basically a scrimmage
The battle of the moustaches ! lol
People put way too much stock in preseason games. Minshew or O'Connell aren't going to have their season performance hinge on 1-2 extra throws to Adams in a vanilla package against a backup DB. This isn't the 70's anymore, stars don't need preseason games to get ready.
One thing is for sure, we don't know which QB has the better chemistry with Adams
AOC folds under pressure. With Gardner right there...Garner has it easy
Raiders are looking at another season of disaster they don't have a solid QB to lead the team but we'll see
Ap crazy for imposing this . Devante is the best in nfl at his position. No need for proof , we need him healthy !! We need Gruden back !
What's wrong with these new raiders fans y'all bugging. Davante wasn't bothered by the question Willie also he's not being a diva he just doesn't see the need that's normal. The coach needs to evaluate his team and he knows he is in charge no need to prove nothing so stop it.
I'll be on Fremont St watching the game to judge who is better to start @QB.
I like Gardner . He broke my heart last year week 16 I think
AOC literally LOOKS like Tom Brady when dropping back and throwing the ball. Minshew literally looks like Johnny Manziel. No one who's honest can say Minshew looks better behind center. This is purely political by Telesco.
Plot twist coming up:
And we are back. Reports reveal that a multi megatrade between the Raiders and New Orleans. Its an exchange of draft capital but mostly players mainly like Derek Carr and his cheap contract would actually be financially sound in the long term while developing a qb or two
How about that Nick Cage as a madden? What do thihk? I thihk no resemblence but lets see what they do. Some Caliendo like impersonation, the hair and proper weight physique, we may be surprised! Boom! And there you have it. "Pulling out the right script up the sleeve at the right moment leads to more points .... Boom! and scoring more points than the other team is the key to winning"
If our offensive line was solid. Id give the nod to occonel. But if we dont want to tank this year minshew prob gives us a better chance since he can extend plays a bit more. But who knows maybe aiden would rise to the occasion.
Hell no 17 don't need no preseason lol. Gruden is the man. I guarantee he'll be back as the Raiders head coach if AP don't work out. I'm all for AP tho but if things don't work out, Gruden will be back as HC.
Good Video Willie! 💯
I said it when the Raiders signed Minshew that he will be the week 1 starter. It's already night and day in my opinion. Minshew has this in the bag.
Adams needs to show these younger guys how this system works. Since he knows it from his GB days
It's not neck and neck. Minshew is clearly better and will be the starter.
I feel like they not really competing.....they think this a friendly competition and nobody's thinking to outdo the other to get the starting QB1 🤷🏾♂️
Aidan is the starter... facts
It looks like Renfro will go to Detroit to join farmer teammate Amik Robertson
I've said it for a long time now and Davante Adams is getting ready to peace out of the Raiders..
Ok so O'Donnell changed his 4 # for #12???? SAY WHAT ?????
Strange thing...I been a Saints fan all my life for like 35 years but the more time passes, the more I grow to love this team. It all started when Derek came to New Orleans and I *rediscovered* willies channel. The *actual* fanbase ( not any bandwagoner types, or noobs) were awesome people. This may seem funny but I assure you its "dead on balls" accurate. If you dont believe me, try talking to a Cleveland fan ( delusions of grandeur ) or a Eagles fan ( inability to figure out theyre not the Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers,or 49ers. Lol, you aint those guys) or a Jets fan ( ok these peeps are all over the place. Kind of schizoid,on one hand BITTER AS HELL and downtrodden and on the other hand these are the ones who crown themselves SB champs every year during the draft and free agency lol). Not the Raiders though, the Raiders have good fans.
Objectively? Minshew threw a hospital ball and only completed 50% of his passes against 2nd/3rd stringers. Aidan looked better for what we got, I'm sorry lol.
I like both QB's but watching footage Minshew runs to quickly with one glance left and taking off before looking for anyone else. Also when Aidan could've finished the drive off with a touchdown he held the ball. But I'm truly seeing more NFL QB style out of Aidan. Mobile isn't always better especially for the QB. It's only a matter of time until they get hurt. Anthony Brown was Mobile?
Hope Carter Bradley makes the practice squad
You want Gruden back so bad you can’t help yourself 😂😂
Lets go RN4L ☠️
I think the idea that Ap and tae are at odds is a far reach. Let’s keep drama out of the locker room this year and just stay positive and committed as a team. These guys all have lives and I’m sure if a linemen had a kid that was just born he would take time off to. Stop making it more than it is a play some football. Keep your head in the game and not in starting drama. Starting drama is for drama queen divas. Let these guys do their thing and as fans let’s give them our support on the decisions they make. RAIDER NATION 🏴☠️ 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
This decision was made before training camp. The "battle" was a facade.
Willie you are viewing this in a negative way.
Bring facts not speculation and drama.
Raiders!!! Just win baby!
I don't think it really matters who starts
Garner did not play any better than AOC...AOC was 7 for 9 whereas garner was 6 for 12 (not a great completion percentage). Garner makes some great plays but then has passes batted down on screen plays and gets his tight end destroyed. AOC overcame some pretty bad LT play by peat. AOC is the better option because he had more upside and garner does not make the best decisions with the ball.
I don't like it. It's not about you being ready DA. How about giving the new QB some live game speed reps before the season? They sat Carr his last year and we started 2-7. Why even have a preseason? Why not just start for real right away so we can go 0-4 while we get into reg season mode? This not getting hurt excuse is BS. So not being up to game speed and getting hurt game 1 would be better? SMH
Just bring DC4 and Renfro back
The one the only Wifi Willie. #559
The way I see it who ever perform the best win the position but if one get injured suit so your best
It would be smart not to play devonte Adams in the preseason. Do we need to really evaluate him? Nah. Media is blowing that out of proportion and taking it out of context.
I'm definitely rooting for minshew but no matter who wins the starting job I want them to succeed.
It better be Minshew for the starting job, I’m not impressed with Aiden at all but that Minshew can run and throw dimes.
F the NFL Front office & bring back Gruden have some balls Mark Davis
Absolutely do not play him in preseason !!! That's ignorant!!!!!
@@Nitestalker65 AP should understand why Davante said he doesn't want to play in the preseason... Davante was at home, and saw that 'hospital ball'...I would have given a King's Ransom to see Davante, when he saw that hit!
Davante Adams isn't a player. He's a coach
Send Adam's to the Jets. Rodgers will take him and take care of him... make sure he gets the ball. Jimmy G. put Adam's career at risk, he is at best... a back-up QB. Adam's deserves better than what he got last year!!!!
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Why drum up drama? I'm pretty he will do as AP asks him to do.. And have ever thought about his rest days? It was already stated he has been taking his Veteran rest days..
I have to disagree WIFI. Minshew did not out play Aiden in the Viking preseason game because there is no level comparison when Aiden plays ONE series and Minshew plays the rest of the half. So let's be clear about this.
Aiden's one series with the "A" teams versus the Vike's first string defense started in the shadow of the Raiders own endzone, at the Raiders 4. Aiden then proceeded to drive the length of the field, clear to the Viking 3 yard line before an untimely sack stalled the drive and they settled for a field goal. That's a 93 yard drive!! In that drive, a methodical and relentless drive, Aiden completed 7 of 9 passes including one picture perfect deep pass to Meyers for 24 yards. In that drive he ate up over 6 minutes. That is exactly the kind of ball control you want. It keeps our D off the field and fresh for when they do come in. The sack wasn't Aiden's fault and probably wouldn't have happened had Colton Miller been healthy and playing left tackle. I also saw where you, WIFI, accused Aiden of throwing the ball too low. Well that only happened once in that drive and if you rewatched it you'd see he threw it low deliberately to protect his receiver. The receiver catches and is low so the safety barrelling down on him isn't going to take his head off and do a Darryl Stingley on him. Aiden was deliberately avoiding a hospital ball. And THAT WIFI is my knock on Minshew. Like Garrappolo, Minshew likes to sail his passes high and it puts his receivers at risk. So what you thought was a negative with Aiden throwing low was actually a positive.
Minshew had more opportunities. He ran team 2 against their team 2 D. He had shorter fields that Aiden. He had 3 series to Aiden's 1. We should also note that the Raiders blocked a field goal attempt at the end of the half, with 2 minutes to play, and returned it to the Viking 40. After a 2 yard run, Minshew threw 2 terrible passes, both incomplete, and we had to settle for a field goal. Despite throwing 3 fairly deep passes, Minshew also threw some wounded ducks. Minshew finished with 6 completions on 12 attempts, a pathetic 50% completion rate. Compare that to Aiden's 7 completions on 9 attempts, a 77.8% completion. That's stellar.
For a real comparison they both need a series running the no 1 offense against a no 1 D, AND each run a series with the no 2 offense against a no 2 D. Level the conditions to get an accurate picture.
As of right now I'd go with Aiden. Getsy runs a version of Gruden's offense he learned from Packers head coach LeFleur, who comes from Gruden's tree. That means timing plays where QBs throw to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be when the ball arrives, and those throws are made from the pocket, not running around playing sand lot football where you make it up as you go. Aiden fits the bill of a disciplined pocket QB with accuracy and a strong arm. Minshew does not. His running around and "winging it" is why he only completed half of his passes.
AOC even played least plays than Minshew as well.
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