Hey there, friends! I've been pretty inspired by how generous you've all been with sharing your stories, your experiences, and your struggles with music in the comments. And it's been heartening to see the amount of support you've given not only to the message, but to each other. Reading through all of your comments I saw glimpses of a small, supportive, and encouraging community where we could all keep each other motivated and inspired, give and receive advice, or even just talk about the music that interests us. And Discord seemed like the perfect place to do that. So I would like to invite you to join my new Discord server, and come be a part of the community! Just follow the Discord link in the video description or on my channel page and come hop into the conversation!
I think you're really on to something here, focusing on the sucking and not the showing off. Impressive video skills too! Looking forward to the next ones.
Also, your background resonates (sorry) with me as I too taught myself on my brother's kit many years ago. It's only now that I realise that I never actually focused on improving but just played along so it feels that this channel was made for me!
saw “the art of sucking at music” video yesterday and i instantly subscribed. and now this video just inspired me to finally start putting the effort on my own journey with the drums. great video man, keep up
Been a musician for most of my life and gotten discouraged from wathing youtube stars the past years being perfectly perfect. Your on a path that might send shockwaves through the youtube creator community... people are going to take your initiative and show their process eventually because authenticity is the key to interesting content. Your going to loose the credit in the process but its okay, at least you know you was authentic 🎉
Man, that’s super kind of you to say. Thank you watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it :). I’m not in it for the credit 😁. Just having fun, making videos, and hoping to inspire some people to do what they love!
Such a refreshing idea. We’ve become a culture that is served anything we want/need (info, products, entertainment, etc) in such a rapid and effortless manner. We’ve lost touch to the fact that some things truly “take time”. And that (for me) is the most important aspect of what you’re doing. It’s documenting the investment of time. Keep at it!
What helps for me with mindbending rhythm tasks is sleep. Honestly you practice until you get stuck and try again the next day instead of pushing. The results will absolutely suprise you.
Thank you for This awesome advice :). I’ve definitely had that experience before. You go to bed thinking about it, and when you wake up it’s surprisingly more internalized than it was the day before :).
I'm just going off of personal anecdote here but there does seem to be some kind of neurological process that works in the background after you practice a new skill, motion, exercise etc. - your brain continues to learn (I think there are studies out there about this phenomenon but don't quote me on that - I haven't checked recently). I took part in a drum clinic workshop held by John Riley a few years ago where he talked about this exact thing. During the workshop I volunteered to go up to the kit and try a couple of his drum co-ordination exercises. The first time I tried them I struggled a bit, and had to play them quite slowly. Then he explained this learning concept - and elaborated with a story about one of his students. 10 or so minutes later, he got me to play the same exercises to test the concept in action - lo and behold, the exercises felt noticably easier to play; I was faster and more accurate. I've applied this process to other drumming concepts I've learned and it does seem to work - I'd imagine sleep may help over longer periods for the same reason.
Your editing skills is better than your drumming. All trolling aside I enjoyed this video. I think there are some areas of drumming that we learn faster or slower. You might learn slower when it comes to rudiments, but maybe your perception of odd time comes you a lot faster. There not being a specific format makes these videos feel way more natural and genuine so maybe its a good thing.
Hahaha to address the trolling… I agree with you, my video editing is better than my drumming 😂. But I hope to balance the scales! It’s funny that you mention odd time signatures, for some reason that’s the area that my brain thrives in. Drums for me are like a coordination puzzle, but I want to get to a point where it doesn’t feel like a puzzle anymore :). Thank you for watching and thank you for one of the most enjoyable comments ever.
This is fucking hilarious. I am here for it. Edit: and by hilarious, I also mean, super-engaging, highly informative, vulnerable, motivating, superbly edited, and brilliantly executed.
All I want to say is thank you from the bottom of my heart. Your humility, honesty, courage, and openness is so incredibly refreshing and inspirational. I’ve been playing professionally for longer than you’ve been alive, toured with Grammy nominated artists…and I still SUCK. I’m so proud to be part of your community of real people, not Instaheros. Oh, and this is by far the most entertaining channel I follow, you’re F’ing hilarious! Basically, I just love you, bro. You’re my freakin hero. ❤
I can't even.... Bruh, your humor is next level. Thank you so much for this series. I can't tell you how much it runs through my head "you suck" non stop. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it and I know that, but it may be that I'm comparing myself in the process to someone else's finished product..... Keep them coming.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it :land that it struck a chord with you :). Comparing yourself to others is hard to avoid sometimes, but eventually you learn to only compare yourself to yourself
Thanks for a very well made and entertaining video. It's s a brilliant demonstration of how one one one lessons with an actual teacher could save you a ton of grief😂
Just watching someone else practice is such a great thing for me personally. Really emphasizes the process and makes me realize how we all have the same struggles overall in the practice room. Really encouraging to me to keep practicing.
Thanks for taking us backstage on your learning process. Your honesty is refreshing. I've been a professional classical musician for a long time, but I've recently picked up some new instruments -- bass guitar especially. Your video was a shot of inspiration today. It's humbling yet exciting to tackle something brand new when you've already got a handle on related skills. One thing I was reminded of while watching your vid is that learning is a neurological process. We talk about "muscle memory" all the time in music, but it's our nervous system that memorizes, not muscles. When we repeat a motor activity, we cue our brain and peripheral system to reinforce our neural connections. A lot (most?) of that process probably happens AFTER we practice, in the same way that you don't get stronger while you're at the gym, but during recovery. For me, part of my embracing the suck is remembering that if I put in thoughtful and consistent practice time, I literally get better in my sleep.
You just put words to what has always been so engaging about it for me. I love how you can put the time in to practice it, then go to sleep, wake up and you’re better. It’s the magic of the brain creating and strengthening the neural pathways :).
I’m 18, been playing guitar a year and play mostly all by ear, and I have people tell me I’m doing good but when I hear others I feel so discouraged that I can’t play like them, then I have to stop and remind myself that a year is not long to learn something as complex as the guitar, so to anyone out there struggling, don’t give up, no one is good at first, Elvis Presleys dancing started off as him shaking and moving his legs because he was so nervous on stage, look what he became, super interesting video ideas and amazing editing good job man 👍🏻 ⚡️TCB
Chris, I have watched a LOT of people playing and teaching music as I have been cursed with 'wonder what that's like to play' syndrome and have amassed a weird chaotic collection of instruments that I cannot play. I LOVE your approach to music. It's simple premise has such a knock on effect to the process if acquiring a new skill, be it music related or other; the ramifications are HUGE! I will be showing your 'Art of Sucking' vid to my teenagers (and with that title GOD ONLY know what they will be thinking!) as they need encouragement to get through the tough part before becoming awesome. 😄 I feel excited and inspired to suck more and more in life, until I suck less! Thank you!
Man, thank you for sharing. I’m glad these videos have had such a positive effect for you :). It’s exactly my hope to encourage people to do what they love and enjoy their process with it, wherever they might be at. Thank you for your time, your kind words, and your support. It means a lot 😁
I don't even play the drums, but I thoroughly enjoyed going through this process and watching this video. Superb quality. Glad you're taking this direction and sharing with us!!
Forgot to say that I think this idea of showing the process and revealing the suck is great. I'm considering doing the same: not to copycat but because I agree with you that more musicians showing how they suck will encourage more new musicians to start learning to play... which is a good thing. Subbed.
Thanks, brother :) I appreciate that. And I definitely think you should. I think the more of us that show our process the more we can hope to encourage others to enjoy their own.
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Ya man, I look forward to seeing what you put out next! Also… not sure if someone’s already said this or not, but it would be sweet to see a video from you down the road on how you create and edit videos like this. Your editing game is on point! So it would be cool to see your gear, the programs, and tools you use. 🤘
Haha, Thanks, brother. And thanks for the editing shoutout too! Much like with music, it's just a lot of time spent learning, a lot of trial and error. Put simply it's just Premiere, After Effects, a couple of plugins, and a computer that can handle it all. Once you understand the basics of it, you can kind of problem solve to get the result you want. It could be cool to do a video about that :).
Very useful video. I suck at everything I've tried (guitar, bass, piano, keyboards, singing & clarinet) and I have for nearly 70 years. Watching this video is making me consider buying a practice pad and learning to suck at drums also.
Thank you so much for watching, I’m glad you found it helpful! And you definitely should :). Rhythm is a whole other animal and a hell of a lot of fun.
Man I love finding a great channel early. Being along for the ride to see where it goes is both educational and inspiring.... I just watched a video on rudiments 🤯
Loving this. Its helpful to see the struggle. Because in practice time, musicians can feel very alone in that struggle. Thank you. Inspired me to pick up my bass. An instrument I love but dont feel very accomplished in.
I love this concept for a music education series. As a multi instrumentalist I have always found my ability to willingly suck at something be a huge benefit.
If you ever find that you're going backwards, (can't do 120 bpm anymore) It's time for a break. Get up, get some water, take the dogs out, whatevs. After 5 minutes, Start at 110 then practice 120 till it's solid. Love the art of sucking! It's inspiring me to release stuff that sucks! Cause let's be real. I don't want to wait 10 years from now when I might have something I'm willing to show that meets my standards.
This series is Epic! and the production is unreal! thank you for this! I am learning guitar and it has been exactly that deeply uncomfortable, and sore, but this has inspired me to keep on keeping on. Thank you Chris
Chris, this video format and content are great. 55yo who just started playing the drums 2 years ago and I love how you show the hard work that comes before the finished product. It can be very deflating to watch people who "seem" to be able to sit down and master the instrument in 30 days. Good to know that is rarely the case. Thank you!!
Thank you! And next time you see a video like that remind yourself, no one can master an instrument in 30 days. Maybe a pattern, or a groove, but not the instrument itself. You’re in good company here :).
great stuff dude! I have recently discovered this thing called "perseverance" ... from rock climbing actually. trying hard boulder problems over and over until the impossible is all of a sudden, possible and sometimes becomes easy even! Practice, does make perfect! Who knew? lol 🤷♂
@@ChrisHayzelmusic started after suffering a stage 5 shoulder separation mountain biking. got into climbing about three years ago to rebuild strength in my arm and now I'm doing V5's on the reg , even started lead climbing recently! love'n it🤘
Nice man! V5 is impressive :). I’m actually the opposite way around, I’m mainly a ropes guy but I’ve been doing this Power Company training program and it’s all on boulders. I’ve really been enjoying bouldering :)
@@ChrisHayzelmusic tight! I love ropes too because you can climb more and get into a flow-state. Also, heights are fun! Especially a spicy Dyno at the top of a high rout! Love the channel by the way, keep up the great work 🤘🔥🔥🔥
Definitely. I really enjoy the strategy of sport climbing, knowing when to push the throttle, knowing when and how to rest, etc. My friends and I are just getting into multi-pitching now and we’re working toward climbing Astroman in Yosemite :). And thanks! I’m having a lot of fun with it and looking forward to making more.
This video is such a beautiful (well edited) love letter to sucking at drums Untill you don’t. Your next videos are gonna be waited upon by me Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
you've earned yourself a new sub. the algorithm has brought me to you with your previous art of sucking video and as a singer/guitarist for the past 16 or so years only having had lessons for 2 of those years you hit the nail on its head. next to the content being amazing you've done some truly joyful editing to keep us engaged which i just wanted to point out so it doesn't just get taken for granted. really looking forward to more of your content, really curious to see where you're going to be in a year from now!
Thanks for coming along for the ride! And thank you for the shoutout on the editing too! It’s awesome to know that you guys are having fun watching something that I had a hell of a lot of fun making :P.
So as a drum teacher i’d like to help your regarding the left hand. You kinda need to build strengh here. I would play those exercises. 16th notes, played RLLL first with ghosts, regular then accented notes. Followed by LLLR same deal with nuances. And then go back to 6stroke roll. Trying to stay relaxed and not force anything ( no strengh involved only height) Also inverting any sticking you know is good practice (singles, doubles…) I hope this helps Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
I'm enjoying these videos. When I was working on my 6's, I found it to be helpful to change the doubles into singles. The accents become a "skeleton" and then you can hang the doubles on the structure.
Great video! It is truly inspiring that someone who is obviously an elite musician would reveal that even elite musicians have to follow a learning process like anyone else! And your very entertaining!
This is the first video of yours I have stumbled upon, but I gotta say, it is very well made! Solid editing, great production value, good stuff!! Nice work!
Epic mix of science fiction and being real with the struggle...watching your rad videos 📹 is like drinking water when your super thirsty! Soooooo satisfying when you find a way to push through break it down and still continue to move forward. And your funny 😂 this is some excellent short film making along with therapy for stuck frustrated with themselves musicians 🎶 totally feel like marching off and sucking at something noisy right now...
Hahaha I hope your noisy sucks he was awesome. Thank you for this comment, it’s incredibly kind and means a lot. I’m looking forward to releasing more soon :)
🙏 thank you so much. I make these videos in a bit of a vacuum and am just kind of starting out, so it’s super nice to get that feedback. I appreciate your time and your kind words :)
Thank you, Chris! I love this video and love your approach. It's about the journey, not about arrival. And I'm learning (by sucking at my mindset lol) that when I idolize arrival, music loses its joy and beauty for me. Please keep these coming. Love it!
I could only get to 120bpm.... This format is great. Nice production, must take ages to record and edit something like this. I really like the humble tone you are bringing to this project - embracing the suck and indulging the beginer's mind. I will be watching this channel with interest because it is so aligned with my own thoughts on mastery. Wish you every success.
Thank you so much for coming along on the journey. I’m solid at 120bpm right now too, slowly working my way up. I’m glad you found it interesting, and happy to have you along for the ride :).
Great series! I've been playing guitar for over 20 years live at church in many different genres. Playing at church is awesome, one reason is that it is a live performance in front of hundreds of people a few times a week. I'm pretty good at feeling fluid and natural while playing and very often flowing with changes with the band and on the fly. But boy do I suck at playing guitar like a lot of these RUclips guitarists that just seem to shred your face off and know a chord like you mentioned in your other video, C#minor add 9 diminished and don't forget the 7 fret pinky stretch to grab that juicy flat 5th. I know that they also fail and practice a lot before uploading that flawless take, but seeing it as you upload this series is so real and encouraging. I think it's time I break out my metronome.
I totally get what you mean, I have a very similar experience, especially on guitar. One thing I try to keep in mind is that there are many different aspects to playing music, all of which are valuable. Shredding your face off in your bedroom by yourself is one thing that gives you one form of experience. Playing shows with other musicians and learning to flow with the music is another. Both are valid, both are valuable :). And if you feel well rounded in one and limited in another, you can always expand your boundaries to include more!
Well done video man! Great use of lighting and editing! And the drumming was great too! Keep these videos coming and you’re going to be a huge YT’er in no time! Good luck!
Hey there, don't pay attention to the comment about winning something, apparently I theres someone has created a fake account haha. I'll delete and report it. Anyway, thank you so much for watching and thank you for your kind words. I'm having a lot of fun making these videos and I'm really looking forward to making more :)
Digging your vids! Bonus points for rocking without sleeves. One of the most important but forgotten fundamentals of being a good musician is either long hair or if not, no sleeves!
This is so awesome to see! when I've practiced violin pieces or fought videogame bosses, the first try is always the best, so I think taking lots of breaks is good, especially when you get to that point where you start to get worse instead of keep improving. Also, it's funny to see you laugh off mistakes; I know if I had company, (or a camera filming me) I would do the same, as like an ego defense mechanism, whereas alone I'd be either completely fine with mistakes, or seething. I hope that besides getting more comfortable seeing people practice and make mistakes, we can also get more comfortable seeing them be made casually, and being completely comfortable making them ourselves. PLEASE keep it up! i will keep watching
YES! I am very intimate with the concept of thinking I must have some birth defect in my brain or hands if I am not good at something right away. I have been learning electric guitar (first instrument ever) and am in my fourth month. The level that I have now, though extremely low now that I know a little better, a younger version of me would have thought it impossible to achieve. This "art of sucking" series could be huge combined with your editing skills and charming personality. Keep it up man! Subbed.
Thank you! And thanks for coming aboard :). Congrats on picking up guitar, it’s a great journey to embark on! It sounds like you’re starting out with a great mindset 🙌
this is so what i needed. Sometimes it's easy to get discouraged when you're newer at an instrument, especially when you're surrounded with super talented musicians, but we all gotta start somewhere! and enjoy the process of learning
what are the odds that today, during my drumming session, I left feeling so frustrated and like I am not making progress. then I watched this video and was stunned by the humility and gentle reminder that these insane musicians that I try and compare myself too alongside the high expectations I set really are only detrimental to the process. thank you so much.
I’m so glad you found it helpful. Those moments ago feeling discouraged can definitely be hard to work through sometimes. Just remember that it’s likely that the people you look up to felt that way at some point too, and probably still experience it in some ways now. As long as you come back to your love for it, that can serve as the fuel to keep you going. That and learning to be okay with where you’re at :)
This is brilliant. Because we all have been there or are there. What you are doing can be translated into ANY aspiration. Side note, thanks for making me want to buy a practice pad and sticks. *sigh*
Haha thank you! It’s definitely a part of the learning process that we all go through. I’m glad you enjoyed the video :). Get out there and get that pad and those sticks!
Chris my man, you will blow up.Period. Your Videos are just so goddamn well thought out and executed.I am already looking forward to the 500.000 subscriber special😎 Also: If you have a patreon or a youtube-membership available for your channel, I would really like support your work. Pretty shure I am not alone with that 😉 LRLLRLRR from Norway😎
Wow, what a compliment. I really appreciate it, thank you. I’m having a lot of fun with these videos and looking forward to making more. I don’t have a pattern or RUclips membership yet, but I’ll definitely let you know if/when I do. Where in Norway are you from? I have life long friends out there in Oslo :).
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Credit where credit is due😉 Video editing is an art form in itself and so is writing a good script/ creating a good flow. I my opinion, you exceed at both of them. Reminds me a lot of Brandon Scott's style, which is my absolute favourite drumming channel when it comes to production quality (earned him an editor position at Drumeo as well)💪 Oslo is pretty awesome! Sadly I don't gi there often , because I live north of Stavanger on the west coast🥲
Haha thank you again, and YES! I love Brandon Scott. He’s definitely a major Inspiration when it comes to me even starting to do the RUclips thing. I’ve always been pretty wary of social media or putting too much focus on it, but I love music, filmmaking, and storytelling, and I have a deep desire to inspire people to play. So when I stumbled on Brandon’s channel about a month ago i saw the possibilities with RUclips as a place to just be yourself and make things that are exciting to you. He kind of unlocked the whole thing for me :)
Just commenting before this channel blow up, so i can say i was here before the hype. Dude, you're awesome! I hope this series and your channel go viral because I know you deserve it. Anyways, are you planning on doing this Art of Sucking series on other instruments too?
Thank you so much! That’s super kind of you to write. And yes, I’ll definitely be hitting other instruments as well. I’m thinking I might cycle them, just working out my approach.
@@ChrisHayzelmusic I'm excited for what's ahead. Your writing, timing and delivery are all spot on. If anything, I think people will want more of you being you and that's the best thing a creator could aim for in videos like these, because only you can be you... Lol I hope that made sense. Good luck, my friend!
Loved the 80s montage, complete with too-short shorts and headband, haha! In fact the whole video was well crafted. Good advice on focusing on developing skills and techniques on a regular basis too.
You have inspired me to actually go through the method untill i reach my limit. I let you know where i land after 26 years of drumming and 19 years of teaching ;) i’m afraid of how low this will be 😰
This is a godsent, dude I love this format and you are great 👍 I'm not a musician but I've always wanted to learn drums 😢 i'm just too scared of being a bit too old to learn (28 years old and I'm full time worker sooooo) I really wish to find the courage and time to learn. If dont get inspired this time by you I know I never will...anyway love from Italy ❤
It’s never too late to learn! Especially at 28 😁. I get the challenge of balancing life and curiosities (I.e. work, family, music, etc) but you might find that it compliments your work life and actually gives you more energy to explore something simply because you want to. You’ve got this!
Hahaha thank you :). I’ve been doing video production and motion graphics for a while now… a lot of hours in various editing softwares, a lot of RUclips learning, tons of hours rendering.
man this video really helps me out a lot. I started playing drums when I was 19-ish, but never took it seriously and quit pretty soon after. But that feeling of rythm and beats never really left me. I was always playing the beats on my thighs etc and I knew that this is something I would really love to do if I started again. I am 30 now, started again. Dont have an Edrum set like I used to, but I bought a practice pad andIm only practicingand learning rudiments Its monotonous at times, but, I STILL LOVE DOING IT. started with the double stroke roll which got way better after I learned from various youtube videos that speed doesnt come with forearms, it comes with rebound technique and finger dexterity. Im still not perfect at it (Think that there is no being perfect at rudiments at all, but you know what I mean) but im proud of my progression. Now Im doing Single strokes which are really really fucking hard to do. the most basic sticking pattern you could do, and I suck at it. But I still love doing it I hope I will never lose this feeling. That feeling of knowing that I am bad at this now, but that I WILL get better if I keep doing it. Nothing has given me the sense of resilience and perseverance like drums do. Most things I've done I have quit. Rudiments however Ive been practicing for over 6 months now and Im still going strong. So thank you for your video (and the other one, embrace the suck). When I started I also felt like musicians very naturally more gifted than I am, and to a certrain degree I still believe that is the case, But, I have practiced and learned so much that Ive been able to get a grasp of that "not sucking anymore" feeling and that feeling is addictive.
That’s awesome that you’ve gotten back to it. Rudiments are a lot of fun, I’m actually kind of surprised how fun they are… it’s like improving at a coordination puzzle, at first it can be really frustrating but after you start to get it it can feel really satisfying. I’ve been working on singles too, they’re surprisingly hard to do well for a sustained period of time 😂😂. I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying the journey so far. I’m looking forward to hearing more about your progress :)
Great videos on showing and embracing the process and patience needed to progress. Just wanted to let you know, and obviously everyone is different, but the paradiddle-diddle (Rlrrll // Lrllrr - it's essentially an inversion of the 6 stroke) really helped me improve my 6 stroke roll. Hope that helps! As a drummer currently trying to improve my guitar/bass playing and thoroughly embracing the art of sucking - keep up the good work! 🙌
Haha thank you, I’m so glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the advice :). I’m working on my doubles and my paradiddles, and definitely noticing a difference too, especially in that left hand. Also, there’s an exercise in that same lesson that does three 6 strokes, ends on a paraddidle, and then back to 6 leading with the opposite hand. I’ve been finding that really helpful too because I can just keep going, switching hands each cycle and practicing both hand leads. How long have you been playing drums? And congrats on working your guitar/bass skills too, it’s so much fun to expand the musical repertoire :).
So relatable! I just spent hours trying to nail a new chord shape on guitar so I could play an otherwise doable progression up to speed. I almost gave up and played a shell voicing instead… until I hit that change on the money, um, once… well, sort of. (Love the magic doorway, btw.)
🙌 hell yeah! You got it once you can get it again, just stick with it. And I sorta like the magic doorway too… maybe it’ll take me somewhere other than guitar center some day.
A piece of advice from my drum teacher to you: Get it clean slow before you start working on fast. It should feel smooth and controlled. If your brain is having trouble keeping up, you need to play it more at the slower tempo. And you’ll do yourself a lot of good if you play each one longer before you stop. Play like 16 or 20 measures to build up the endurance (physical and mental) and muscle memory. I don’t mean to be ragging on you, because I’m in the same boat with my rudiments. Actually currently working on 5 and 6 stroke rolls.
Thanks so much for this advice. I’m definitely taking it at a more comfortable pace in my daily practice and not bumping up until I feel like I really have a handle on it. And even then, only bumping up slightly. I thought it was pretty wild that the lesson jumped straight from 90bpm to 150, so for the video I thought it would be interesting to try and follow along with it. Thank you for watching :). I really appreciate it
I can't wait to try this. I am going to suck so hard. At 52 years old I am hoping it will keep my brain and reflexes fresh. It's ether drums or pickleball. Since I am alone a lot, I have to get a practice pad and, stimulate myself. LOL. No worries, I am sure I got this. I am moody, autistic and I keep my nails short. So, I am good to go.
Thanks for sharing and returning to basics. I am in the monotony of acoustic guitar and simple press and release and pluck exercises to manage fret buzz and accidental ringing or other strings... The early early stages. You have to grit through this to get to the fun stuff and in no way is it pretty lol
Haha, oh yeah, I remember those days on guitar :). Stick with it, you’ll get through it faster than you think, and next thing you know you’ll be strumming your favorite songs.
Rad. I wonder if you ran an experiment: try this with your regular self talk (my left hand sucks, I’m nervous about my left hand, etc etc) and then try one with positive statements and encouragement and see if there is a difference in performance.
Hey there, friends! I've been pretty inspired by how generous you've all been with sharing your stories, your experiences, and your struggles with music in the comments. And it's been heartening to see the amount of support you've given not only to the message, but to each other. Reading through all of your comments I saw glimpses of a small, supportive, and encouraging community where we could all keep each other motivated and inspired, give and receive advice, or even just talk about the music that interests us. And Discord seemed like the perfect place to do that. So I would like to invite you to join my new Discord server, and come be a part of the community! Just follow the Discord link in the video description or on my channel page and come hop into the conversation!
I think you're really on to something here, focusing on the sucking and not the showing off. Impressive video skills too! Looking forward to the next ones.
Thank you! I’m looking forward to making more
Also, your background resonates (sorry) with me as I too taught myself on my brother's kit many years ago. It's only now that I realise that I never actually focused on improving but just played along so it feels that this channel was made for me!
Haha kindred spirits! Let’s get better at some drums!
Would love to see something like blues improvisation on a guitar, something not cooked up but what pushes your boundaries.
Definitely. I’ll be working on a guitar video soon. Just trying to figure out how I want to approach it :)
Dude you're editing skills are crazy, love this series so far 🔥
Hahaha thanks man, I enjoy editing :)
@@ChrisHayzelmusic that may be the reason it is so good, besides the practice it requires.
saw “the art of sucking at music” video yesterday and i instantly subscribed. and now this video just inspired me to finally start putting the effort on my own journey with the drums. great video man, keep up
Thanks for hopping on the journey with me! How long have you been playing? Let’s get better at some drums!
Same here
Been a musician for most of my life and gotten discouraged from wathing youtube stars the past years being perfectly perfect.
Your on a path that might send shockwaves through the youtube creator community... people are going to take your initiative and show their process eventually because authenticity is the key to interesting content.
Your going to loose the credit in the process but its okay, at least you know you was authentic 🎉
Man, that’s super kind of you to say. Thank you watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it :).
I’m not in it for the credit 😁. Just having fun, making videos, and hoping to inspire some people to do what they love!
Such a refreshing idea. We’ve become a culture that is served anything we want/need (info, products, entertainment, etc) in such a rapid and effortless manner. We’ve lost touch to the fact that some things truly “take time”. And that (for me) is the most important aspect of what you’re doing. It’s documenting the investment of time. Keep at it!
Thank you! And yes, you've hit the nail on the head. Time and the importance of accepting your own limitations in order to expand them :).
What helps for me with mindbending rhythm tasks is sleep. Honestly you practice until you get stuck and try again the next day instead of pushing. The results will absolutely suprise you.
Thank you for This awesome advice :). I’ve definitely had that experience before. You go to bed thinking about it, and when you wake up it’s surprisingly more internalized than it was the day before :).
I'm just going off of personal anecdote here but there does seem to be some kind of neurological process that works in the background after you practice a new skill, motion, exercise etc. - your brain continues to learn (I think there are studies out there about this phenomenon but don't quote me on that - I haven't checked recently).
I took part in a drum clinic workshop held by John Riley a few years ago where he talked about this exact thing. During the workshop I volunteered to go up to the kit and try a couple of his drum co-ordination exercises. The first time I tried them I struggled a bit, and had to play them quite slowly. Then he explained this learning concept - and elaborated with a story about one of his students. 10 or so minutes later, he got me to play the same exercises to test the concept in action - lo and behold, the exercises felt noticably easier to play; I was faster and more accurate.
I've applied this process to other drumming concepts I've learned and it does seem to work - I'd imagine sleep may help over longer periods for the same reason.
Your editing skills is better than your drumming. All trolling aside I enjoyed this video. I think there are some areas of drumming that we learn faster or slower. You might learn slower when it comes to rudiments, but maybe your perception of odd time comes you a lot faster. There not being a specific format makes these videos feel way more natural and genuine so maybe its a good thing.
Hahaha to address the trolling… I agree with you, my video editing is better than my drumming 😂. But I hope to balance the scales!
It’s funny that you mention odd time signatures, for some reason that’s the area that my brain thrives in. Drums for me are like a coordination puzzle, but I want to get to a point where it doesn’t feel like a puzzle anymore :). Thank you for watching and thank you for one of the most enjoyable comments ever.
@@ChrisHayzelmusic That's exactly how I feel about guitar, you put it into words!
This is fucking hilarious. I am here for it.
Edit: and by hilarious, I also mean, super-engaging, highly informative, vulnerable, motivating, superbly edited, and brilliantly executed.
Haha thank you, and hilarious is a compliment in and of itself :). I’m glad you enjoyed it.
All I want to say is thank you from the bottom of my heart. Your humility, honesty, courage, and openness is so incredibly refreshing and inspirational. I’ve been playing professionally for longer than you’ve been alive, toured with Grammy nominated artists…and I still SUCK. I’m so proud to be part of your community of real people, not Instaheros.
Oh, and this is by far the most entertaining channel I follow, you’re F’ing hilarious! Basically, I just love you, bro. You’re my freakin hero. ❤
Man, this means a lot, thank you for sharing. I’m glad to have you as part of this community :). We all suck, and it’s great!
Dude put his entire SOUL into editing this video
😂😂😂 maybe just a little :P
I can't even....
Bruh, your humor is next level.
Thank you so much for this series. I can't tell you how much it runs through my head "you suck" non stop. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it and I know that, but it may be that I'm comparing myself in the process to someone else's finished product.....
Keep them coming.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it :land that it struck a chord with you :). Comparing yourself to others is hard to avoid sometimes, but eventually you learn to only compare yourself to yourself
Thanks for a very well made and entertaining video. It's s a brilliant demonstration of how one one one lessons with an actual teacher could save you a ton of grief😂
😂😂😂 thank you
Just watching someone else practice is such a great thing for me personally. Really emphasizes the process and makes me realize how we all have the same struggles overall in the practice room. Really encouraging to me to keep practicing.
Love your channel concept. "Embrace the suck." Thanks for the courage to learn in public!
Thanks for watching me learn in public! 😂😂 Most of music is just learning, anyway, yeah?
Thanks for taking us backstage on your learning process. Your honesty is refreshing. I've been a professional classical musician for a long time, but I've recently picked up some new instruments -- bass guitar especially. Your video was a shot of inspiration today. It's humbling yet exciting to tackle something brand new when you've already got a handle on related skills.
One thing I was reminded of while watching your vid is that learning is a neurological process. We talk about "muscle memory" all the time in music, but it's our nervous system that memorizes, not muscles. When we repeat a motor activity, we cue our brain and peripheral system to reinforce our neural connections. A lot (most?) of that process probably happens AFTER we practice, in the same way that you don't get stronger while you're at the gym, but during recovery.
For me, part of my embracing the suck is remembering that if I put in thoughtful and consistent practice time, I literally get better in my sleep.
You just put words to what has always been so engaging about it for me. I love how you can put the time in to practice it, then go to sleep, wake up and you’re better. It’s the magic of the brain creating and strengthening the neural pathways :).
I honestly think I may have just found my new favourite RUclipsr.
😂😂😂 I’m honored
I’m 18, been playing guitar a year and play mostly all by ear, and I have people tell me I’m doing good but when I hear others I feel so discouraged that I can’t play like them, then I have to stop and remind myself that a year is not long to learn something as complex as the guitar, so to anyone out there struggling, don’t give up, no one is good at first, Elvis Presleys dancing started off as him shaking and moving his legs because he was so nervous on stage, look what he became, super interesting video ideas and amazing editing good job man 👍🏻 ⚡️TCB
Thank you for sharing such encouraging and motivating thoughts :). It sounds like you’ve got the right mindset! Keep it up!
@@ChrisHayzelmusic thanks, enjoy your videos so far
You had me at "am I vlogging? ugh...!" in the previous one, this one made me subscribe :)
🙏 thanks for coming along for the ride. I’m happy to earn you subscription 😁
Chris, I have watched a LOT of people playing and teaching music as I have been cursed with 'wonder what that's like to play' syndrome and have amassed a weird chaotic collection of instruments that I cannot play.
I LOVE your approach to music. It's simple premise has such a knock on effect to the process if acquiring a new skill, be it music related or other; the ramifications are HUGE!
I will be showing your 'Art of Sucking' vid to my teenagers (and with that title GOD ONLY know what they will be thinking!) as they need encouragement to get through the tough part before becoming awesome.
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I feel excited and inspired to suck more and more in life, until I suck less! Thank you!
Man, thank you for sharing. I’m glad these videos have had such a positive effect for you :). It’s exactly my hope to encourage people to do what they love and enjoy their process with it, wherever they might be at. Thank you for your time, your kind words, and your support. It means a lot 😁
I got stuck on the same stage of rudiments. Glad you made this vid! Made me try again
Nice! How did it go?? I’m still working on it, taking it a few bpm at a time
@@ChrisHayzelmusic i could do it at 90 bpm but bumping it up not so much. It's a start tho!
90 is good! Try bumping it like 2 bpm at a time. Every day just work on it for 10 minutes or so at a *slightly* faster tempo
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Snap that's a good idea thanks. 10 was way too much
I don't even play the drums, but I thoroughly enjoyed going through this process and watching this video. Superb quality. Glad you're taking this direction and sharing with us!!
Thank you for following along :)
Forgot to say that I think this idea of showing the process and revealing the suck is great. I'm considering doing the same: not to copycat but because I agree with you that more musicians showing how they suck will encourage more new musicians to start learning to play... which is a good thing. Subbed.
Thanks, brother :) I appreciate that. And I definitely think you should. I think the more of us that show our process the more we can hope to encourage others to enjoy their own.
BRO! You have no idea how refreshing it is to watch someone else struggle through the creative learning process, keep it up man! So good!
Haha good! That’s the goal :). I’m so glad you enjoyed the video 😁. Thank you for watching
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Ya man, I look forward to seeing what you put out next!
Also… not sure if someone’s already said this or not, but it would be sweet to see a video from you down the road on how you create and edit videos like this. Your editing game is on point! So it would be cool to see your gear, the programs, and tools you use. 🤘
Haha, Thanks, brother. And thanks for the editing shoutout too! Much like with music, it's just a lot of time spent learning, a lot of trial and error. Put simply it's just Premiere, After Effects, a couple of plugins, and a computer that can handle it all. Once you understand the basics of it, you can kind of problem solve to get the result you want. It could be cool to do a video about that :).
Very useful video. I suck at everything I've tried (guitar, bass, piano, keyboards, singing & clarinet) and I have for nearly 70 years. Watching this video is making me consider buying a practice pad and learning to suck at drums also.
Thank you so much for watching, I’m glad you found it helpful! And you definitely should :). Rhythm is a whole other animal and a hell of a lot of fun.
Man I love finding a great channel early. Being along for the ride to see where it goes is both educational and inspiring.... I just watched a video on rudiments 🤯
Thanks for watching and Thanks for coming along! I’m stoked to have you aboard. Rudiments? AmIRight??? :P
Loving this. Its helpful to see the struggle. Because in practice time, musicians can feel very alone in that struggle. Thank you. Inspired me to pick up my bass. An instrument I love but dont feel very accomplished in.
I have felt every emotion and made every facial expression in this video. Raw and genuine learning and sucking in real time. Awesome man.
Haha a kindred spirit! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for checking it out :)
Your struggles and triumphs, sucking and not sucking are just what I need to keep at it myself. Thanks much!
3:40 whaaaat? that was awesome
😂😂😂
This my friend, is insanely entertaining content! Well played
🙏 thank you. Stay tuned for more :)
Absolutely love this!! So stoked to see what comes out of this channel!!!
Thanks! And thanks for watching :). I’m looking forward to making more
I love this concept for a music education series. As a multi instrumentalist I have always found my ability to willingly suck at something be a huge benefit.
Yes! It’s the whole game
If you ever find that you're going backwards, (can't do 120 bpm anymore) It's time for a break. Get up, get some water, take the dogs out, whatevs. After 5 minutes, Start at 110 then practice 120 till it's solid.
Love the art of sucking! It's inspiring me to release stuff that sucks! Cause let's be real. I don't want to wait 10 years from now when I might have something I'm willing to show that meets my standards.
Can’t wait to see what you release!
This series is Epic! and the production is unreal! thank you for this! I am learning guitar and it has been exactly that deeply uncomfortable, and sore, but this has inspired me to keep on keeping on. Thank you Chris
Thank you! It’s been a lot of fun so far. Stick with it! I’m glad those video struck a chord with you :)
Chris, this video format and content are great. 55yo who just started playing the drums 2 years ago and I love how you show the hard work that comes before the finished product. It can be very deflating to watch people who "seem" to be able to sit down and master the instrument in 30 days. Good to know that is rarely the case. Thank you!!
Thank you! And next time you see a video like that remind yourself, no one can master an instrument in 30 days. Maybe a pattern, or a groove, but not the instrument itself. You’re in good company here :).
I love how you approached this
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it :)
great stuff dude! I have recently discovered this thing called "perseverance" ... from rock climbing actually. trying hard boulder problems over and over until the impossible is all of a sudden, possible and sometimes becomes easy even! Practice, does make perfect! Who knew? lol 🤷♂
That’s awesome, I climb too! And perseverance and focus are definitely key when climbing. How long have you been hitting the rocks?
@@ChrisHayzelmusic started after suffering a stage 5 shoulder separation mountain biking. got into climbing about three years ago to rebuild strength in my arm and now I'm doing V5's on the reg , even started lead climbing recently! love'n it🤘
Nice man! V5 is impressive :). I’m actually the opposite way around, I’m mainly a ropes guy but I’ve been doing this Power Company training program and it’s all on boulders. I’ve really been enjoying bouldering :)
@@ChrisHayzelmusic tight! I love ropes too because you can climb more and get into a flow-state. Also, heights are fun! Especially a spicy Dyno at the top of a high rout! Love the channel by the way, keep up the great work 🤘🔥🔥🔥
Definitely. I really enjoy the strategy of sport climbing, knowing when to push the throttle, knowing when and how to rest, etc. My friends and I are just getting into multi-pitching now and we’re working toward climbing Astroman in Yosemite :).
And thanks! I’m having a lot of fun with it and looking forward to making more.
This video is such a beautiful (well edited) love letter to sucking at drums
Untill you don’t.
Your next videos are gonna be waited upon by me
Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thank you :). I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for checking it out
you've earned yourself a new sub. the algorithm has brought me to you with your previous art of sucking video and as a singer/guitarist for the past 16 or so years only having had lessons for 2 of those years you hit the nail on its head. next to the content being amazing you've done some truly joyful editing to keep us engaged which i just wanted to point out so it doesn't just get taken for granted. really looking forward to more of your content, really curious to see where you're going to be in a year from now!
Thanks for coming along for the ride! And thank you for the shoutout on the editing too! It’s awesome to know that you guys are having fun watching something that I had a hell of a lot of fun making :P.
So as a drum teacher i’d like to help your regarding the left hand.
You kinda need to build strengh here. I would play those exercises. 16th notes, played RLLL first with ghosts, regular then accented notes. Followed by LLLR same deal with nuances. And then go back to 6stroke roll. Trying to stay relaxed and not force anything ( no strengh involved only height)
Also inverting any sticking you know is good practice (singles, doubles…)
I hope this helps
Cheers from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Amazing! Thank you so much. I’ll definitely be implementing that into my practice :).
😄 happy to help. If you have questions, i’m here.
I really appreciate it. It’s been super cool to see how supportive everyone’s being. I’m majorly humbled :)
I'd love to see something like this for the keyboard! :)
That’ll definitely come! Keys/piano are probably my worst instrument :P
Love your sense of humor!
Haha thanks!
This channel is going to blow up real soon 🤟🤟
So glad you liked the video, and thank you for stickin with me!
impressive editing and montage sequence, you def don't suck at that
Haha thanks, it’s definitely been a major peripheral interest of mine for a long time :)
I'm enjoying these videos. When I was working on my 6's, I found it to be helpful to change the doubles into singles. The accents become a "skeleton" and then you can hang the doubles on the structure.
The lesson did that same thing too :). I’ve definitely been practicing that. Thank you for the tip :)
I think you underrate yourself. I think your true talent is comedy. Love your content so far, keep up the great work !!
😂😂😂 thank you! I’m looking forward to making more :)
❤ I like it to see real struggle again around here! Makes me less lonely
Haha I’m glad to hear that! Thank you for watching :)
Great video! It is truly inspiring that someone who is obviously an elite musician would reveal that even elite musicians have to follow a learning process like anyone else! And your very entertaining!
Hahaha I appreciate that huge compliment. I don’t know about elite, just obsessed :P. I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching :)
This is the first video of yours I have stumbled upon, but I gotta say, it is very well made! Solid editing, great production value, good stuff!! Nice work!
Thanks! It’s been a lot of fun so far :). Thank you for watching!
Epic mix of science fiction and being real with the struggle...watching your rad videos 📹 is like drinking water when your super thirsty! Soooooo satisfying when you find a way to push through break it down and still continue to move forward. And your funny 😂 this is some excellent short film making along with therapy for stuck frustrated with themselves musicians 🎶 totally feel like marching off and sucking at something noisy right now...
Hahaha I hope your noisy sucks he was awesome. Thank you for this comment, it’s incredibly kind and means a lot. I’m looking forward to releasing more soon :)
I really like your video in every aspects..funny, entertaining and intersting at the same time. I really whish the best for this channel. 🤟
🙏 thank you so much. I make these videos in a bit of a vacuum and am just kind of starting out, so it’s super nice to get that feedback. I appreciate your time and your kind words :)
Thank you, Chris! I love this video and love your approach. It's about the journey, not about arrival. And I'm learning (by sucking at my mindset lol) that when I idolize arrival, music loses its joy and beauty for me. Please keep these coming. Love it!
I’m so glad you found the video helpful :). I’m looking forward to making more for all of you
This is awesome. Thanks for actually showing the process.
Thanks! It’s my way of hopefully encouraging others to enjoy their own process 😁
I could only get to 120bpm.... This format is great. Nice production, must take ages to record and edit something like this. I really like the humble tone you are bringing to this project - embracing the suck and indulging the beginer's mind. I will be watching this channel with interest because it is so aligned with my own thoughts on mastery. Wish you every success.
Thank you so much for coming along on the journey. I’m solid at 120bpm right now too, slowly working my way up. I’m glad you found it interesting, and happy to have you along for the ride :).
Great series! I've been playing guitar for over 20 years live at church in many different genres. Playing at church is awesome, one reason is that it is a live performance in front of hundreds of people a few times a week. I'm pretty good at feeling fluid and natural while playing and very often flowing with changes with the band and on the fly. But boy do I suck at playing guitar like a lot of these RUclips guitarists that just seem to shred your face off and know a chord like you mentioned in your other video, C#minor add 9 diminished and don't forget the 7 fret pinky stretch to grab that juicy flat 5th. I know that they also fail and practice a lot before uploading that flawless take, but seeing it as you upload this series is so real and encouraging. I think it's time I break out my metronome.
I totally get what you mean, I have a very similar experience, especially on guitar. One thing I try to keep in mind is that there are many different aspects to playing music, all of which are valuable. Shredding your face off in your bedroom by yourself is one thing that gives you one form of experience. Playing shows with other musicians and learning to flow with the music is another. Both are valid, both are valuable :). And if you feel well rounded in one and limited in another, you can always expand your boundaries to include more!
Love this your humility is refreshing thanks for posting
🙏 thank you for watching
Well done video man! Great use of lighting and editing! And the drumming was great too! Keep these videos coming and you’re going to be a huge YT’er in no time! Good luck!
Thank you! I’ve been having a lot of fun with these videos so far :). I’m super glad to know that it’s resonating
Absolutely love the way these new videos are structured. Very well done and entertaining. There is a lot of work put into a video about sucking. ✌😎🥁
Thank you! And yes, I’ve definitely put a lot of love into these :)
That was a thing of beauty. Your video skills are very inviting. The sound recording is top shelf. Gotta say the lighting is perfect too. Fantastic.
Hey there, don't pay attention to the comment about winning something, apparently I theres someone has created a fake account haha. I'll delete and report it.
Anyway, thank you so much for watching and thank you for your kind words. I'm having a lot of fun making these videos and I'm really looking forward to making more :)
Digging your vids! Bonus points for rocking without sleeves. One of the most important but forgotten fundamentals of being a good musician is either long hair or if not, no sleeves!
Haha, thanks, I'll take those bonus points. Do I get more for no sleeves AND long hair?
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Musically no, stylistically yes!
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This is so awesome to see!
when I've practiced violin pieces or fought videogame bosses, the first try is always the best, so I think taking lots of breaks is good, especially when you get to that point where you start to get worse instead of keep improving.
Also, it's funny to see you laugh off mistakes; I know if I had company, (or a camera filming me) I would do the same, as like an ego defense mechanism, whereas alone I'd be either completely fine with mistakes, or seething.
I hope that besides getting more comfortable seeing people practice and make mistakes, we can also get more comfortable seeing them be made casually, and being completely comfortable making them ourselves.
PLEASE keep it up! i will keep watching
Haha oh yeah. I definitely took plenty of breaks while shooting. It’s easy to get all tangled up in your head and get stuck.
These videos are insane omg 🎉
😂😂😂 thank you!
@@ChrisHayzelmusic 🤣🤣🤣☀️
Nice video. Entertaining for sure
🙏 thank you
Thank you for making this series. I'm looking forward to what comes next.
Thank you for watching and coming along for the ride :). I’m glad it struck a chord with you
YES! I am very intimate with the concept of thinking I must have some birth defect in my brain or hands if I am not good at something right away. I have been learning electric guitar (first instrument ever) and am in my fourth month. The level that I have now, though extremely low now that I know a little better, a younger version of me would have thought it impossible to achieve. This "art of sucking" series could be huge combined with your editing skills and charming personality. Keep it up man! Subbed.
Thank you! And thanks for coming aboard :). Congrats on picking up guitar, it’s a great journey to embark on! It sounds like you’re starting out with a great mindset 🙌
Ringo is laughing all the way to the bank
The editing is top notch, absolutely love your content homie
Thanks! I have fun with it :)
this is so what i needed. Sometimes it's easy to get discouraged when you're newer at an instrument, especially when you're surrounded with super talented musicians, but we all gotta start somewhere! and enjoy the process of learning
I’m so glad you found it helpful. I’ll definitely get to bass and keys soon :)
what are the odds that today, during my drumming session, I left feeling so frustrated and like I am not making progress. then I watched this video and was stunned by the humility and gentle reminder that these insane musicians that I try and compare myself too alongside the high expectations I set really are only detrimental to the process. thank you so much.
I’m so glad you found it helpful. Those moments ago feeling discouraged can definitely be hard to work through sometimes. Just remember that it’s likely that the people you look up to felt that way at some point too, and probably still experience it in some ways now. As long as you come back to your love for it, that can serve as the fuel to keep you going. That and learning to be okay with where you’re at :)
This is brilliant. Because we all have been there or are there. What you are doing can be translated into ANY aspiration.
Side note, thanks for making me want to buy a practice pad and sticks. *sigh*
Haha thank you! It’s definitely a part of the learning process that we all go through. I’m glad you enjoyed the video :). Get out there and get that pad and those sticks!
Chris my man, you will blow up.Period. Your Videos are just so goddamn well thought out and executed.I am already looking forward to the 500.000 subscriber special😎 Also: If you have a patreon or a youtube-membership available for your channel, I would really like support your work. Pretty shure I am not alone with that 😉 LRLLRLRR from Norway😎
Wow, what a compliment. I really appreciate it, thank you. I’m having a lot of fun with these videos and looking forward to making more.
I don’t have a pattern or RUclips membership yet, but I’ll definitely let you know if/when I do.
Where in Norway are you from? I have life long friends out there in Oslo :).
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Credit where credit is due😉 Video editing is an art form in itself and so is writing a good script/ creating a good flow. I my opinion, you exceed at both of them. Reminds me a lot of Brandon Scott's style, which is my absolute favourite drumming channel when it comes to production quality (earned him an editor position at Drumeo as well)💪 Oslo is pretty awesome! Sadly I don't gi there often , because I live north of Stavanger on the west coast🥲
Haha thank you again, and YES! I love Brandon Scott. He’s definitely a major Inspiration when it comes to me even starting to do the RUclips thing. I’ve always been pretty wary of social media or putting too much focus on it, but I love music, filmmaking, and storytelling, and I have a deep desire to inspire people to play. So when I stumbled on Brandon’s channel about a month ago i saw the possibilities with RUclips as a place to just be yourself and make things that are exciting to you. He kind of unlocked the whole thing for me :)
Just commenting before this channel blow up, so i can say i was here before the hype. Dude, you're awesome! I hope this series and your channel go viral because I know you deserve it. Anyways, are you planning on doing this Art of Sucking series on other instruments too?
Thank you so much! That’s super kind of you to write. And yes, I’ll definitely be hitting other instruments as well. I’m thinking I might cycle them, just working out my approach.
@@ChrisHayzelmusic I'm excited for what's ahead. Your writing, timing and delivery are all spot on. If anything, I think people will want more of you being you and that's the best thing a creator could aim for in videos like these, because only you can be you... Lol I hope that made sense. Good luck, my friend!
great idea for series, awesome vides
Way cool - I picked up Drumeo recently, this prompts me to actually...
Love the idea and really enjoyed this one. Can’t wait to see what comes next!
So glad you liked it! We’re just getting started :)
Great channel ! Love it !
🙌 thank you!
Loved the 80s montage, complete with too-short shorts and headband, haha! In fact the whole video was well crafted. Good advice on focusing on developing skills and techniques on a regular basis too.
Thank you! My wife insisted on the shorts… I suppose I should thank her :P.
@@ChrisHayzelmusic Indeed you should! As they say, “happy wife, happy life”.
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You have inspired me to actually go through the method untill i reach my limit.
I let you know where i land after 26 years of drumming and 19 years of teaching ;) i’m afraid of how low this will be 😰
Nice! Yeah, keep me posted! I’d love to see your progress. I’m sure you’ll have an easier time of it, being a teacher and all.
This is a godsent, dude I love this format and you are great 👍 I'm not a musician but I've always wanted to learn drums 😢 i'm just too scared of being a bit too old to learn (28 years old and I'm full time worker sooooo) I really wish to find the courage and time to learn. If dont get inspired this time by you I know I never will...anyway love from Italy ❤
It’s never too late to learn! Especially at 28 😁. I get the challenge of balancing life and curiosities (I.e. work, family, music, etc) but you might find that it compliments your work life and actually gives you more energy to explore something simply because you want to. You’ve got this!
Excited to have found your channel and to see more of your content! I needed someone to make videos with this form of outlook✨
Thanks for coming along for the ride!
Absolutely loved this first video. I subscribed today after watching your previous video.
No regrets.
Embrace the suck! Until next time.
Thank you! I’m glad to have you along for the ride :)
So I’m level one one 100th of one but obsessed with the idea of drums and Timing / rhythm so … I’m gonna do this … way to motivate
Yes! You absolutely should! I’m glad you found this video motivating 🙌 thank you for watching.
You said you're a musician! But by the looks of your edits, you seem to be a retired Hollywood editor
😂😂😂 haha thank you! That means a lot. I really enjoy editing and motion graphics and what not :)
How you do these editing techniques?!?? The pacing and rhythm of the editing is rockstar level! Great job!
Hahaha thank you :). I’ve been doing video production and motion graphics for a while now… a lot of hours in various editing softwares, a lot of RUclips learning, tons of hours rendering.
man this video really helps me out a lot. I started playing drums when I was 19-ish, but never took it seriously and quit pretty soon after.
But that feeling of rythm and beats never really left me. I was always playing the beats on my thighs etc and I knew that this is something I would really love to do if I started again.
I am 30 now, started again. Dont have an Edrum set like I used to, but I bought a practice pad andIm only practicingand learning rudiments
Its monotonous at times, but, I STILL LOVE DOING IT.
started with the double stroke roll which got way better after I learned from various youtube videos that speed doesnt come with forearms, it comes with rebound technique and finger dexterity.
Im still not perfect at it (Think that there is no being perfect at rudiments at all, but you know what I mean) but im proud of my progression.
Now Im doing Single strokes which are really really fucking hard to do. the most basic sticking pattern you could do, and I suck at it. But I still love doing it
I hope I will never lose this feeling. That feeling of knowing that I am bad at this now, but that I WILL get better if I keep doing it. Nothing has given me the sense of resilience and perseverance like drums do. Most things I've done I have quit. Rudiments however Ive been practicing for over 6 months now and Im still going strong.
So thank you for your video (and the other one, embrace the suck). When I started I also felt like musicians very naturally more gifted than I am, and to a certrain degree I still believe that is the case, But, I have practiced and learned so much that Ive been able to get a grasp of that "not sucking anymore" feeling and that feeling is addictive.
That’s awesome that you’ve gotten back to it. Rudiments are a lot of fun, I’m actually kind of surprised how fun they are… it’s like improving at a coordination puzzle, at first it can be really frustrating but after you start to get it it can feel really satisfying.
I’ve been working on singles too, they’re surprisingly hard to do well for a sustained period of time 😂😂.
I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying the journey so far. I’m looking forward to hearing more about your progress :)
Great videos on showing and embracing the process and patience needed to progress. Just wanted to let you know, and obviously everyone is different, but the paradiddle-diddle (Rlrrll // Lrllrr - it's essentially an inversion of the 6 stroke) really helped me improve my 6 stroke roll. Hope that helps! As a drummer currently trying to improve my guitar/bass playing and thoroughly embracing the art of sucking - keep up the good work! 🙌
Haha thank you, I’m so glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the advice :). I’m working on my doubles and my paradiddles, and definitely noticing a difference too, especially in that left hand. Also, there’s an exercise in that same lesson that does three 6 strokes, ends on a paraddidle, and then back to 6 leading with the opposite hand. I’ve been finding that really helpful too because I can just keep going, switching hands each cycle and practicing both hand leads.
How long have you been playing drums? And congrats on working your guitar/bass skills too, it’s so much fun to expand the musical repertoire :).
So relatable! I just spent hours trying to nail a new chord shape on guitar so I could play an otherwise doable progression up to speed. I almost gave up and played a shell voicing instead… until I hit that change on the money, um, once… well, sort of. (Love the magic doorway, btw.)
🙌 hell yeah! You got it once you can get it again, just stick with it. And I sorta like the magic doorway too… maybe it’ll take me somewhere other than guitar center some day.
If music doesn't work out, the video editing is fantastic so you can always pivot!
Haha thanks!
A piece of advice from my drum teacher to you: Get it clean slow before you start working on fast.
It should feel smooth and controlled. If your brain is having trouble keeping up, you need to play it more at the slower tempo.
And you’ll do yourself a lot of good if you play each one longer before you stop. Play like 16 or 20 measures to build up the endurance (physical and mental) and muscle memory.
I don’t mean to be ragging on you, because I’m in the same boat with my rudiments. Actually currently working on 5 and 6 stroke rolls.
Thanks so much for this advice. I’m definitely taking it at a more comfortable pace in my daily practice and not bumping up until I feel like I really have a handle on it. And even then, only bumping up slightly. I thought it was pretty wild that the lesson jumped straight from 90bpm to 150, so for the video I thought it would be interesting to try and follow along with it.
Thank you for watching :). I really appreciate it
I can't wait to try this. I am going to suck so hard. At 52 years old I am hoping it will keep my brain and reflexes fresh. It's ether drums or pickleball. Since I am alone a lot, I have to get a practice pad and, stimulate myself. LOL.
No worries, I am sure I got this. I am moody, autistic and I keep my nails short. So, I am good to go.
Why not both? 😁 and you’ve definitely got this. I, too, am on the spectrum, and I find drums to be uniquely suited to the way my brain works.
As a hand drummer I laughed at your pain but you show very well how to integrate a figure
Oh man, my hat off to you! I play djembe (okay but not great) and hand drumming well is incredibly impressive. Much respect :)
Love the vids man. thanks
🙏 thank you! And thank you for watching :), I’m glad you enjoy them
Thanks for sharing and returning to basics. I am in the monotony of acoustic guitar and simple press and release and pluck exercises to manage fret buzz and accidental ringing or other strings... The early early stages. You have to grit through this to get to the fun stuff and in no way is it pretty lol
Haha, oh yeah, I remember those days on guitar :). Stick with it, you’ll get through it faster than you think, and next thing you know you’ll be strumming your favorite songs.
Rad. I wonder if you ran an experiment: try this with your regular self talk (my left hand sucks, I’m nervous about my left hand, etc etc) and then try one with positive statements and encouragement and see if there is a difference in performance.
Maybe I’ll give it a try :)
Aka one funky roll got me 😂
love this
Nice! One tip is to always look at what you're playing, otherwise how will you know what you're playing is right :) Keep it up
Thanks for the advice :). I’ll definitely keep it in mind
Bruce Becker has a course that is on point for technique on Drumeo. It's called the Truth about Hand Technique. He's great educator and player.
Thank you for the suggestion, Any knowledge at this point is so helpful. I’ll have to check it out :).
I suck really bad at singing. This is inspiring to try a similar thing with singr
Do it!
Good video man!! I see a lot of inspiration from Brandon Scott perhaps?
Haha good eye! Definitely :). I love Brandon’s channel, he and I seem to share similar interests in music and video/filmmaking