SUPERB tutorial video there Mr. Barnard. I've heard all the myths and stories about coach painting over the years and it's just great to see a professional like yourself explaining the techniques, sharing many years of hard won experience and , naturally..... making it all look so bloody EASY!!?? I particularly liked your advice about using the paint, as formulated by the manufacturers, I've used all sorts over the years and it is absolutely true..... use the right technique , and you'll get the right finish! ;-)
Like you said, paints today dry quicker. I've been paint boats (as a kid) since 1976 and the urethane paint hasn't change in all these years. It drys quickly and can sag. Penetrol added makes the process so much better and the paint looks better albeit transparent so sometimes you need to paint several times, but longer dry time and no sags.
After a complete disaster trying to paint a table brunswick green, I sanded it down and started again using your technique. I have to say, I'm well chuffed even after just the first coat, I can't wait to get another coat on to see how it looks. Many thanks for sharing and taking the time record the videos!
Great to watch..i trained as a Coachpainter at East Kent Road Car Company from 1979..painting Buses using Parsons and Williamsons Paint..and my trustee set of Hamilton brushes..Sadly made redundant because it was cheaper to spray buses elsewhere..Nice work sir!
Me too Steve worked with MTBC as a Coachpainter before being made redundant in the 80's but used Tekaloid Paints with Hamiliton brushes. Great video to watch...Well done Mr Barnard
Mr Barnard is not claiming to be a coachpainter Tom c. He Is a Narrow boat expert giving sound advise on painting. His painting techniques is different to maybe what I was taught and there is a possibility you too but the information he provides is valuable to anyone wanting to paint their narrow boat.
ive painted numerous narrow boats, over the years,, with all types of paint, but I would never tell a novice to use 4 inch brushes , he should as you know be telling people to ease the paint of to suit themselves.no two people like paint at the same constituency,,.. now hes got several undercoats and primers on those boats ,, so his exterior finish is only cosmetic ,, plus you cant roll a gloss paint without thining it, and he doesent make mention of using synthetic brushes with synthetic paint,, if you use pure bristle on synthetic it lines badly ,its meant to be put on with synthetic brushes, bristles for oil based, Hamilton do some nice synthetic brushes,,, plus as you know sponge rollers fill paint with air.
Hi can this paint be used on a car several coats then cut back and buffed to a high gloss? I’m thinking of doing my car this way,an old mini I have seen Rust-Oleum paint used like this! Any advice appreciated thank you Steve
Hi people do paint car's with this type of paint but I am not sure about the cutting back I have seen It done with other types but people who have say tcut a boat have ended up without a shine that they can not buff back not saying it will not work just I have no information on it
A trick I learned when using Craig and Rose polyurethane Varnish was the reverse light laying off method. It is a 3 step process. Lay off top to bottom then lay off lighter horizontally then lay off lighter still up stroke only. I always use that technique when painting the final coat on large panels. The European VOC directive has made the quality tradesperson's life more difficult and finding a paint system that allows for superior leveling has become problematic. Even our most trusted and reliable paint strippers have been banned.
Brilliant videos by the way,I will change the way I paint my boat now,can you give any advice on using stencils?i have painted a cartoon character on the side of my boat using layered stencils,orange first,yellow 2nd,black 3rd with pink for a nose but I'm wondering if there are any special techniques used for doing this. Cheers Paul
I suppose you get asked this question quite a lot but to get a glass finish with the final gloss coat is that affect achieved by sticking to the 4 gloss coat and sanding down to acquire that glass effect?
Hi to get a completely brush stoke free finish you would have to make sure you are painting on to a well prepared surface and ease the paint a little with a flowing agent such as easy flow just remember that thining or easing the paint will likely result in a thinner coat so more will need to be applied
I have to paint outside , in the sun /heat ? I have to thin with white spirit and/or paint conditioner as the paint dries to quickly and i cant keep a wet edge.
hi colin i know what your saying, but as i am approved by two major paint company's i have to mindful of telling people to add things to there products, as you know white spirit in too large a concentration will have the effect of dulling the gloss and thinner coatings means more coats will need to be applied, not something people always do.
Curious now if i can add coach paint into a spray gun with paint thinners and just spray gun it coz i need to paint my classic landrover and i cant hold a brush or roller😂
@@JohnbarnardBiz I'v just bought some Paintman synthetic coach enamel, I haven't used it yet, but they say it's touch dry in 3 hours and fully cured in 24. Is that similar to your paint in drying time?.
40 odd years a sign writer and time served painter and I didn't know that was the way I should be doing it. what a load of tosh....if its very cold paint wont run and you have to ease it off. if you know what you are doing you can lay it on thick as you like ..it wont run...every one paints differently . some people cant handle thick paint.. I never once saw you load your brush properly, just diped it in the paint. you should be telling people to use synthetic brushes with synthetic paint and bristles with oil based. do you watch these vids you look so amature. and sound silly
everyone paints differently . I didn't see him do anything "wrong" , you can dip your brush like that if you want so long as it all looks even in the end . I agree the Finish don't need to be that thick coz of all the primer and undercoat and id prolly thin it quite a bit and roll some tight coats laying off with a brush as you go
1. That's the way he does it (He says that often) and there is a long waiting list of people wanting their narrowboats painted by this chap, because he does quality work which lasts. 2. He's working inside, where it's never colder than 16 degrees and the paint is at ambient temperature. So, he adds nothing to the paint. 3. Not everyone knows what they're doing, when painting and would benefit from trying out his method, to ensure no sagging, or splashing. 4. He loaded his brush with paint, enough to cover what he wanted to and it didn't drip. 5. Synthetic brushes with 'water based' paint and natural bristles with oil based. - The only fair point you made, had you got it right.
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OMG that video is phenominal
..I have learnt so so much and that paintwork is just stunning...Thankyou so much X
Fantastic information! Thank you for sharing your time and skill with us !
Great work man. Looks soo simple, at the same time only because he's got that skill unlocked,💯
Thanks John , great video, love your work and really appreciate the info about the Narrowboat Skills Centre.
SUPERB tutorial video there Mr. Barnard. I've heard all the myths and stories about coach painting over the years and it's just great to see a professional like yourself explaining the techniques, sharing many years of hard won experience and , naturally..... making it all look so bloody EASY!!?? I particularly liked your advice about using the paint, as formulated by the manufacturers, I've used all sorts over the years and it is absolutely true..... use the right technique , and you'll get the right finish! ;-)
Thank you for a very informative and well narrated video, will be of great help when I paint my Bike Tank by hand.
Great series of videos John. I'm looking to start a career at a Marina and your video's are a great help. Cheers Dan
Nice job mate. Thank you for advice many thanks 👍
Thankyou for sharing these skills....
Great video - thanks for posting - subbed 👍🏻
When are we having more of your great video's ...
Like you said, paints today dry quicker. I've been paint boats (as a kid) since 1976 and the urethane paint hasn't change in all these years. It drys quickly and can sag. Penetrol added makes the process so much better and the paint looks better albeit transparent so sometimes you need to paint several times, but longer dry time and no sags.
fantastic vid,thanks.
After a complete disaster trying to paint a table brunswick green, I sanded it down and started again using your technique. I have to say, I'm well chuffed even after just the first coat, I can't wait to get another coat on to see how it looks. Many thanks for sharing and taking the time record the videos!
thank you i am in the process of doing another full boat paint start to finish
@@JohnbarnardBiz Great!
Great series of videos with good content
thank you
This well help me alot as im helping to repaint a 1940's bus.
michael jagger
Brilliant video john, I am trying the process on an old car. It is black. Will I need undercoat. Thanks
Hi
we have lots of video"s coming in the new year
when do you take the tape of when the paint is dry or tacky ?allso how do you do it with a rollers ,great
ok got the rolla bit ,when do you take the tape of
I am currently painting my narrow boat outdoors could you recommend masking tape that you use . Love the videos have learnt so much from them
hi tessa precision masking tape
massive respect massive
do you alter your paint for rolling? a good painter will be able to line out that paint horrizontaly and not be afraid of it running ,
Great to watch..i trained as a Coachpainter at East Kent Road Car Company from 1979..painting Buses using Parsons and Williamsons Paint..and my trustee set of Hamilton brushes..Sadly made redundant because it was cheaper to spray buses elsewhere..Nice work sir!
Me too Steve worked with MTBC as a Coachpainter before being made redundant in the 80's but used Tekaloid Paints with Hamiliton brushes. Great video to watch...Well done Mr Barnard
if you trained as a coach painter like I did mate you would know he doesent have a clue
Mr Barnard is not claiming to be a coachpainter Tom c. He Is a Narrow boat expert giving sound advise on painting. His painting techniques is different to maybe what I was taught and there is a possibility you too but the information he provides is valuable to anyone wanting to paint their narrow boat.
ive painted numerous narrow boats, over the years,, with all types of paint, but I would never tell a novice to use 4 inch brushes , he should as you know be telling people to ease the paint of to suit themselves.no two people like paint at the same constituency,,.. now hes got several undercoats and primers on those boats ,, so his exterior finish is only cosmetic ,, plus you cant roll a gloss paint without thining it, and he doesent make mention of using synthetic brushes with synthetic paint,, if you use pure bristle on synthetic it lines badly ,its meant to be put on with synthetic brushes, bristles for oil based, Hamilton do some nice synthetic brushes,,, plus as you know sponge rollers fill paint with air.
Steve Field has
My old boss favorite saying..
"Long way is the short way"
Makes sense too me👌🏽😆
wow that came out great. can u pls suggest a the brushes u used? was the first one firm and 2nd soft?
Hi can this paint be used on a car several coats then cut back and buffed to a high gloss?
I’m thinking of doing my car this way,an old mini I have seen Rust-Oleum paint used like this! Any advice appreciated thank you Steve
Hi people do paint car's with this type of paint but I am not sure about the cutting back I have seen It done with other types but people who have say tcut a boat have ended up without a shine that they can not buff back not saying it will not work just I have no information on it
A trick I learned when using Craig and Rose polyurethane Varnish was the reverse light laying off method. It is a 3 step process. Lay off top to bottom then lay off lighter horizontally then lay off lighter still up stroke only. I always use that technique when painting the final coat on large panels. The European VOC directive has made the quality tradesperson's life more difficult and finding a paint system that allows for superior leveling has become problematic. Even our most trusted and reliable paint strippers have been banned.
What kind of paint and brush?
you paint cars this way also?
Brilliant videos by the way,I will change the way I paint my boat now,can you give any advice on using stencils?i have painted a cartoon character on the side of my boat using layered stencils,orange first,yellow 2nd,black 3rd with pink for a nose but I'm wondering if there are any special techniques used for doing this.
Cheers
Paul
I suppose you get asked this question quite a lot but to get a glass finish with the final gloss coat is that affect achieved by sticking to the 4 gloss coat and sanding down to acquire that glass effect?
Hi to get a completely brush stoke free finish you would have to make sure you are painting on to a well prepared surface and ease the paint a little with a flowing agent such as easy flow just remember that thining or easing the paint will likely result in a thinner coat so more will need to be applied
excellent videos :)
thanks
I have to paint outside , in the sun /heat ? I have to thin with white spirit and/or paint conditioner as the paint dries to quickly and i cant keep a wet edge.
hi colin i know what your saying, but as i am approved by two major paint company's i have to mindful of telling people to add things to there products, as you know white spirit in too large a concentration will have the effect of dulling the gloss and thinner coatings means more coats will need to be applied, not something people always do.
Appreciate your reply. I believe its all about common sense and the prevailing conditions whilst applying paint.
What paint is it.
Curious now if i can add coach paint into a spray gun with paint thinners and just spray gun it coz i need to paint my classic landrover and i cant hold a brush or roller😂
hello john,
will you ever upload any more videos?
May he RIP
@@mokujin29
Pardon?
thinking of painting my boat, do I need to take the windows out or just mask them?
Taking them out makes sure there is nothing going on behind them which you can't see now but may show up later,
If you can out is best option
@@JohnbarnardBiz thanks for that John, Ive done my 3 undercoats just need to sand it now with 320, what brush do you recommend to do the laying off?
@@paulshrew Hi I use Purdys for all my painting
What are your thoughts on paintman.co.uk synthetic coach enamel?
Sorry I know nothing about it
@@JohnbarnardBiz I'v just bought some Paintman synthetic coach enamel, I haven't used it yet, but they say it's touch dry in 3 hours and fully cured in 24. Is that similar to your paint in drying time?.
Hi it sounds faster drying about the same to cure
Some of the canal boats look so smooth and glossy I've been assuming they were painted with sprayers. Is that ever done?
I spray everything, with airless, hvlp, lvlp and pressure pot ,
I've had to reprimand relatives for not understanding you ALWAYs follow manufacturer instructions on everything you ever use. Its there for a reason.
Can I use this paint on my antique car
Hi yes people regularly use these types of paints
@@JohnbarnardBiz thank you
Interesting and useful information. Unfortunately, there is really too 'talking' at the beginning. Get into mate, you can talk later or as you go.
paints ant as good as they used to be even oil's ant as good they even leave brush strokes nowadays even with pure bristles brushes
Who ever taught him to paint like that,he can’t even lay off properly right amateur only talks a good job.
shut the fuck up and paint the fuckn thing will yerrrrrr
40 odd years a sign writer and time served painter and I didn't know that was the way I should be doing it. what a load of tosh....if its very cold paint wont run and you have to ease it off. if you know what you are doing you can lay it on thick as you like ..it wont run...every one paints differently . some people cant handle thick paint.. I never once saw you load your brush properly, just diped it in the paint. you should be telling people to use synthetic brushes with synthetic paint and bristles with oil based. do you watch these vids you look so amature. and sound silly
everyone paints differently . I didn't see him do anything "wrong" , you can dip your brush like that if you want so long as it all looks even in the end . I agree the Finish don't need to be that thick coz of all the primer and undercoat and id prolly thin it quite a bit and roll some tight coats laying off with a brush as you go
1. That's the way he does it (He says that often) and there is a long waiting list of people wanting their narrowboats painted by this chap, because he does quality work which lasts.
2. He's working inside, where it's never colder than 16 degrees and the paint is at ambient temperature. So, he adds nothing to the paint.
3. Not everyone knows what they're doing, when painting and would benefit from trying out his method, to ensure no sagging, or splashing.
4. He loaded his brush with paint, enough to cover what he wanted to and it didn't drip.
5. Synthetic brushes with 'water based' paint and natural bristles with oil based. - The only fair point you made, had you got it right.
Or perhaps you have been doing it wrong for 40 years? another option, Just saying?let us see your video and we can decide for ourselves?