Oprah Winfrey & Dr. Bruce Perry in Conversation | SXSW EDU 2021
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2021
- Oprah Winfrey and leading child psychiatrist and neuroscientist Bruce Perry, MD, PhD explore the impact of childhood trauma on who we become, the decisions we make, and how healing must start with one question 'what happened to you?' in anticipation of a new co-authored book of the same name. Winfrey and Dr. Perry focus on understanding how shifting the approach to trauma and allowing understanding of the past allows for an opening of the door to resilience and healing in a proven, powerful way.#WhatHappenedToYou
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I have the classic "crush on the professor" with Bruce Perry. He's a genius whose life's work holds a very important message for all of society.
The work of Dr. Bruce Perry is so important and inspiring. These conversations are now happening with educators everywhere. We can change brains and change lives for the better!
As an impoverished black man from the ghettos having multiple upon multiple childhood traumas, it was the kindness of total strangers that provided me the fuel in finding my true voice............
Oprah! You are a QUEEN. I have experienced childhood abuse and belong to the club i call "Child of a dead parent". When i was teaching, my 10 year old student was bullying and acting out in class. No one was able to get through to him. But I knew that if this child was acting this way it was because something was happening to him. I pulled him aside and asked him why he was bullying? Would he like that to happen to him? Did he think that would win him friends? Did he want to make friends? Then i explained to him how to make friends and how much potential he had if he wanted to do the work. One month later he won the school speech competition and stopped bullying. He did that. It was his choice to make a change!
@Just Live you’re vibe is so negative and judgemental. My post war grandfather who handled far more would tell you if you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t open your mouth
@Just Live AGAIN, WELL SAID!!
@Just Live no I don’t listen to him. I call out negative people. But since you prefer the great generation then act like them
I love the words of Oprah it inspires my feelings 🥰
How're you doing
I am a mother and this has opened my eyes and i pray that i will be able to raise my child and not instill my own fears and insecurities in my daughter. i cant imagine doing something my daughter will grow in fear of
by being open and taking in this information, you have already done a huge and important & helpful thing for your daughter. thank you for that
I really wish Oprah would stop interrupting him and let him speak. She's talking over his most important information
Have you ever seen an Oprah interview? This is what she does. To be fair she probably isn’t the best interviewer. Maybe because she’s been doing it so long she has more of a producer/director’s perspective and tries to steer the conversation where she thinks it needs to go.
@@tjkerger5890 I really wanted to hear his explanations. It seemed whenever he was close to giving clarity she would interrupt him and take him down a different path
She's always been a terrible interviewer to be honest. She rarely seems to really connect on an honest balanced level with the guest. She never forgets she's on a show for better or worse.
@@tjkerger5890 Agree totally! . I'm a long time fan of Dr Perry &was sad to see him collaborate with Oprah. The very early" O" was empathetic & good at interviewing people on her show but she put up boundary's and during the phase when she got "spiritual & had Dr. Phi, Ilyana, E Tolle, Caroline Myss etc. on the show you could see her change - I think she had some second hand knowledge from them but thought she "knew it all" and constantly interrupted etc. Her ego got to her. I saw her do 2 interviews with severely traumatized people that I will never forget because she had no idea what she was doing and likely badly traumatized each one. One was a young HS/college age girl who had a baby alone - hid the pregnancy etc and baby died. Cause of death was unclear.
Interviewed in prison and "O" kept hammering her with "admit YOU killed your baby" - yet O had a child at a young age that supposedly died and I have never heard her express a drop of sadness or regret - only that her father said she now had a 2nd change. She needs to heal herself.
Agree, she's guiding the conversation to her own "intentions". Irritating to think her audience doesn't notice.
I can vividly recall, while in grade school, I yelled at my male teacher with profanity, and got away with it, little did I know then, that teacher completely overlooked my behavior with zero punishment. He obviously used his professional skills realizing something of a far greater pain was present, my alcoholic abusive father to my extremely passive mother who's entire life was dedicated to sweeping all the pain of our family under the rug, unknowingly that every single child would be affected for the remainder of their lives
Dr. Perry's Neurosequential Model is incredibly important, so glad this book has been written and Oprah is able to give it such a large platform. And sidenote, the ASL interpreter in this video is fantastic.
I love the words of Oprah it inspires my feelings 🥰
How're you doing
@@kennandrews6187 The thing the SO upsets me is that darn "O" is getting all the credit here. It is Dr Bruce Perry and others like Judith Hermann MD, Christine A Courtois PhD who were pioneers in the field of sexual abuse and trauma that was in it;s infancy who started to look at this. THEY should get the credit! Dr Courtois published a short book several years ago titled It's not You, It's What Happened To You." Also PLEASE know that Dr Perry published a book at least 10 yrs ago titled "The Boy Who Was Raised As A Dog" that is about all this and is't so wonderful because Dr Perry tells stories of his child patients to illustrate these situations and how he and others collaborated to deal with them. Oprah makes it all about her which is such a turnoff and notice how often she cuts him off and interrupts - she ruined it.
@@pjmcdonald2841 I agree that Herman, Courtois, Porges, Schore and others are the stalwarts in the field, but Oprah's role is putting this information out to a wider audience than those of us that have been studying trauma and have deeply engaged with the literature. Getting the public to recognize the impact of trauma may help drive public policy change (yes, I'm an optimist). I bought the book, not much I didn't already know from my research - and Perry's name is primary. Even in this video, Winfrey admits he did most of the writing. I don't think anyone expects that Winfrey made these discoveries - but that she's a good communicator with a really wide audience.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. I’m a child attachment trauma survivor of psychological enmeshment with my mother. This is incredibly important. I woke up 4 months ago and went not contact, this was hurting my young daughters and the generational trauma is ending with me.
If anyone had asked me “ what happened to you?” I could have told them. But they never did. My kid helped me work out trauma. I am a good mom.
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Oh thank you both. This is the exact same question in my book Hush to Roar that I wrote during lockdown as I was hushed , got suddenly taken from my foster family at 8, was introduced to my real father at 9 and then got sexually abused by a very close family member from 12 till 15. I now Roar!! I will do my bit to be divinely Discontent and shout from the roof tops that our childhood impacts us as adults! And that we are not crazy, we just want to be unwrapped from the crippling shame that debilitates our body when we don't heal 🙏🙏🙏
Sorry to hear of your pain. A great story of triumph. Your absolutely right. Many Professionals ignore this fact and only want to focus on children only or one Area. In the past 4 - 5 years where were the Experts? They're back now. Smh. They are not about prevention.
@@filmladyproduction so true, the awareness is now out there, I'm excited about the new way of dealing with events in our lives.
I love your story of ‘triumph over adversity’ and the title of your book ‘Hush to Roar’ tells a story in itself … very thought provoking and inspiring, thanks so much for sharing. Sharing really is caring in this context ❤️❤️❤️ ……. hopefully some day we can quietly speak our truth and be heard, without the need to roar because they’re not listening. I sense that day is getting closer and closer, especially with this new book being available worldwide to inspire and motivate many more. ‘What happened to you’ is so much more revealing than ‘what’s the matter with you’ could ever be. As Gabor Mate says ‘a compassionate curiosity about ourselves and others, without judgment’. 👏🏻
Viewers don't seem to realise this was a virtual interview. That Dr Perry and Oprah were not actually in the same space, but in 2 separate studios. And an element of that definitely comes across in the lag and occasional speaking across each other which happens despite the great technology.
I’ve heard her talk about the technology. I’m a producer and wouldn’t have known that. How did you know that?
@@einsteindarwin8756 she mentioned it at the start of the video☀️
@@einsteindarwin8756 she talked about it on Drew Barrymores show. She saw Drew use the technique.
Thanks that other (you) saw this too hahahaha. the bird sound pattern... and when the doctor moves his hands, optical distortion is seen in the silhouette of his hands against the background
@mahbobah jacobs thanks for mentioning that! I missed her saying it was virtual! I was just thinking Oprah seemed unusually rude in this interview, speaking over her guest and they didn't seem in tune with each other. Great information though!
I'm in my 30s and have aspergers , it was so helpful to see sign language, I even covered the left side of wide screen with my hand whilst listening aloud...... I don't even know sign language.
It's sad that the people who need this information can't afford to get it or this kind of professional help.
This is what happened to me .. this is enabling me to start understanding and healing myself. I am enlightened, this is a start
Reading the book now! Just phenomenal. Helps me to connect so many dots in my own life and the lives of people in my life.
I just found this. Finally, understanding! I am 63 and was the youngest of four 2/2, my sister who'd turn 7 in a few months, was my main caretaker. It was not a bonding but divisive unit. Dad's drink and Mom's "Happy pills". The neglect, abuse and violence. I was a spectator and target. I started reading at age four. Books have and still are my best friends (and music) I've been interested in the mind and emotions since I was about 8, & saw people moving things with their mind on TV. For a very long time I'd stare at the lamp, willing it to go on or off.
I was about 10, and had the TV to myself. The Early Show movie was "The Three Faces of Eve." I was not scared, but felt such a strong lightbulb moment, I felt emotionally hugged. Recognized.
Over the years I've read & listened to many books, RUclipsd and Googled. I believe I always will.
Sporadic as all my interests, yet like music, always there when I need it.
Dissociation is a topic of great interest to me. I don't mean as high on the dissociative scale as Eve. There's so many complicated layers before driving on auto to/from work, arriving shocked awake. So much more.
Lacking the definitive verbiage to define my experience has made it impossible to discuss. Not with any success. Thank you from my Being. I'm off tubing!
As a new uncle, this is so interesting. With no younger children in the family, this is so good.
Great advice particularly regarding regulation through music. My soothing music playlist has got me regulated so many times. Dancing with friends or on my own, has also helped shake off many a low mood. Different things help different people, healthy activities to recover from traumas and a compassionate understanding helper can help a survivor transform into a thriver. Many thanks to Oprah for her courage and insights and to Dr Perry for his diligent work in this field
trying to start music therapy in a treatment house where I work
I just finished listening to the audio book. It's so powerful, mind-blowing and brought me to tears at the end.
I enjoyed this session today. Many years of my life were spent working as a Behavior Specialist with all ages Loved every minute and we so agree with everything discussed here.
I am not a super Oprah fan, but as of lately because of this new things she’s doing with healing, I am very impressed with her and very grateful for this.
Let me tell you Kota, if you are not a fan of Oprah , you can’t be a fan of no one, this is a good woman.
@@noreenperez8666 thank you..people nowadays believe everything they read online and groups from the right and the qanon fighting hard to discredit good people like Oprah...oprah is a force of good
@@noreenperez8666 horrible interviewer though, so haughty and full of herself she always tries to take credit for the knowledge of experts as if her 2 cents is worth more than decades of expertise.
@@noreenperez8666 She is entitled to her opinion, as are you. It is called freedom of speech.
What an important conversation and so refreshing to see it being shared as sign language too. I have so much respect and reverence for Oprah in addressing difficult topics in the pursuit of uplifting the human conditioning. Blessed we are to be traveling alongside this magnificent being - a daily inspiration. Thank you.
I love this important contribution to discourse on trauma. I can't stop listening to it on audible and plan to buy the hard copy. Every person who works with children and every trauma survivor will benefit from this - as will therapists and professionals.
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Dang Oprah, let the man complete his sentence before you jump in.
This was so beautiful and profound Oprah. You are one of the best messengers to bring such beautiful conversation on board. It's more beautiful to learn how curious and open you are to learning, to enquiring even at your age, when most people get stuck with the way they have always been.
It's even more beautiful to notice that you have even thought of those who cannot hear with their ears but can hear through the body.
You are truly magnificent. It's a blessing to hear such conversations through/ from you.
It would be a blessing to meet you some day😊
Great discussion. Thank you. Opened my understanding of an out of nowhere slapping by my father at age 12. Said I embarrassed him at a church dinner...Thank you!
Thanks for posting
Great!! Dr. Perry is incredible, and important person in this world.
Thank you for this Professional Development Opportunity on May Day 2021. Social Work professional during COVID global pandemic 2021. From, Toronto, thank you!
Thank you for your book on this sensible topic
THANK YOU!
Thank you Oprah. I remember when l first wrote you after my brain injury. And you were following all the way. Can't wait for you to read my book.
Thank you, done intense research
Thx for raising awarness for such an importantt topic.
Great Teaching 👏👏👏❤❤❤
Thank you very much Oprah and Dr. Perry for writing this book, and bringing up to this Platform this knowledge, which is so helpful and pertinent to these moments in history, specifically for educators, and helping professionals.
Hey! did you read the book already?
So glad I watched and digested this wonderful insight
As I listening, I'm hearing 'Give Up That It Could Have Been Different. I'm hearing it differently than previously have. Whoohooo
Thank you
That was deep to break down disassociation, reading and math for some students. Wow!
Dr. Nadine Burke has done work on childhood trauma and she has done work on the ACE score!!! She is the first Surgeon General of California!
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I love Oprah and Doc Perry
My stress response system keeps going off every time she interrupts him.
Yep. Deep breaths…
lol 😂
I have great respect for Dr. Perry whose work I first read thirty plus years ago. I’m glad he’s getting broad exposure through Oprah. The signer was fabulous. I wish Oprah would stop stepping on his and other speakers’ comments. She doesn’t let them finish their thought.
Totally agree. She kept interrupting him.
Seriously? She gave this issue worldwide exposure and you're criticizing her interviewing skills? What happened to you?
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Wonderful conversation. I’d like to add that sometimes, despite having a loving, supportive family with no obvious signs of external trauma, when a person is born with a chronically disregulated sensory system that also manifests anxiety and panic attacks, simply being put into challenging situations daily is traumatizing to a person. Throw dyslexia on top of Sensory Processing Disorder and school becomes a daily nightmare. Especially with an educator who has no education about these such invisible disabilities, who can’t look beyond the behavior. My son’s 7th grade Special Ed teacher bitched him out (privately in a hallway) because he wasn’t complying with her commands. Despite my having told her , the school counselor, and the Vice Principal very clearly that my son lives with SPD, dyslexia, ADHD, and Anxiety, she couldn’t recognize classic signs of a panic attack (freeze). My son completely shut down for 2 weeks. Several weeks later I had to pull him out of school and homeschool him. Even on medication, teaching him math brings up anxiety and panic every single day.
The lives of teachers are a nightmare with these children in their class. There are other children in the class who also need to learn. These types of children should be in separate classes. Teachers are human too. Even though they have the training, it doesn't prepare them for your specific child behaves. Good for you for taking responsibility for the education of your child. It sounds like he needed one to one attention.
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This really help me understand somethings about self. The brain is amazing to begin to understand I’ll behaviors.❤️
I didn't let it get in the way. If anything. It made me keep moving.
Donna Eden teaches simple techniques (the Triple Warmer Smoothie, the Oh my God hold) that I use along with Vagus nerve work with all the children I tutor; we can re-wire the nervous system to enable learning & whole brain functioning
Such great insights, agreeing with the work of Dr Gabor Maté.
I wish he worked for my school district. So many Administrators do not get it!
I think when we are looking for clues to what might not be right with kids, we need to broaden the search to include school! Often, that phenomena of "not belonging" because of the vibe you are getting at school can be a reason for stress responses.
Excellent!!!
Hey Oprah, stop interrupting him. I’d like to hear him.
shes doing her job. this recording has to be done at a certain time capacity, and in order to cover all the groundworks of the book she has to step in to ask these valuble questions.
Yeah but it was too much. There are others who said the same thing. She doesn’t usually interrupt the author that much. If you keep reading you’ll see others complaining too. It was hard to get the full scope of his work.
Hello Oprah I love you. I ;love that color on you. Thank you for all you do. New and mind opening news.
This was helpful to me, as an adult who can relate to this interview. I was one of the shy kids (girls) who was always getting the good citizen's award at school. Though I daydreamed a lot and had trouble learning, no-one noticed. I actually don't have good memories of my past teachers. They just let me slip away and daydream because I was easy and didn't cause any trouble. Even though that was a long time ago, my insecurities about my intelligence and lack of self-confidence have been a burden that have shaped my career and relationships throughout my life. Hopefully more teachers are more aware now. I can honestly say that no-one stands out as a mentor in my youth. I hope this happens less and less as people become more aware that we all have feelings and memories and trauma that can't just be neatly swept under a rug and forgotten.
Wow, you totally described my son. He is now 30 and he hides from the world because he questions his intelligence. I imagined him as you described your childhood in school. 😔 I am happy to hear that you have a career!
FASCINATING
Is there a transcript for this video?
gurus are everything to me
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take advantage of rhythm you know rhythm is sort of this fundamental regulatory
gift that our brain has that comes from our earliest experiences in utero where our brain
made associations between maternal heart rate
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baroreflex or baroreceptor reflex is one of the body's homeostatic mechanisms that helps to maintain blood pressure at nearly constant levels.
Must elaborate on the last question, so we’ll not feel doomed forever if we had traumatic 2 first months and first 6 years.
Need hope and a clear way to heal.
Shout out to the impeccable "ASL" interpreter........
It's the only thing I have. Every thing I accomplished came after it.
best signer ever!
NonViolent Communication (NVC) is a whole way to defuse conflict and get back to constructive conversations. And where does it begin? Not with yelling at each other, or trying to "teach" them what's "right", but to establish some empathy by acknowledging the other's feelings. Then you can address the issue in a more peaceful, receptive atmosphere.
Absolutely wonderful, thanks for the posting!
This and "The Polyvagal Theory"
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and and one of the simple fundamental tools we do to help teach people these things is
have them envision the brain as this upside down triangle and down on the bottom are these sort of regulatory systems that control heart rate blood pressure and so forth
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The experience you have both good and bad shapes the biology of your brain. And that sets you up on how you process things and react to people. What happened to you as a child shaped the way you view the world.
Truama is an experience that influence the way your stress response work and as a result have a long term impact on your brain. We both can experience an event differently, a person who grew up in an unpredictable erratic environment will be more fragile.
Our stress system are malleable, they change based on the experience
Bom dia Opraha Winfrey eu só Victoria eu gosto muito das suas palestras Dues tia bênção a ti e toda a sua família e sua vida. 🎉😂❤❤
Micro-aggressions! Anger! Fighting! ... And the effects on the developing brain! So insightful! Thank you!
What do you do when you get to 63 years old and only found out in recent years that I was completely and utterly traumatised right from birth (and in utero) and all through childhood, and consequently adulthood? I have learned why my life was such a mess! It really feels too little too late for me!
Two words...Amazing Polly
The CDC identifies “Grief” as a response to trauma or any other significant change. COVID-19 illuminated this fact. It is spot on to acknowledge the influences of trauma on children’s physical, intellectual, emotional, social and spiritual states. Most focus is on children. It is imperative to realize that adults (teachers, school support staff, education leaders, internal and external stakeholders) all were once children and bring their own personal emotional/mental health energy/history into the school community. It is burdensome to put the majority of responsibility on teachers. The CDC WSCC (whole school, whole community, whole child) model will help improve outcomes. It is also important to note that Grief or responses to change, trauma, or other losses is not specific to any group. Adults go first and they can be better equipped to support and be empathetic to “what happened to you?”
Oprah interrupted Dr. Bruce too much. She needs to listen more and write down her response question and let him finish rather than not allowing him to finish his point. It was rude.
She thinks too much of herself and is a egotistical.
This is off topic but what happened to Mr. Perry's wife was awful. I admire his strength.
reading the book now and i want to watch the video of dialog
Wonderful book & author! It was difficult to really appreciate what was said, given how disregulated I was by this interview! Increase his mic & decrease hers! :o
i will buy your book
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i want keep my purity and spirituality
yes i obey my teachers
him being green screened into the shot and the asl person off to the side are very distracting. but otherwise this was a very informational video thank you!
What about the importance of the mother pregnancy? Doesn’t it cause the foundation of the way the child’s brain and the way the child’s brain will react to everything?i feelthst my bon hsd a very traumatic pregnancy snd she passed a lot other and other issues like insecurities to me Angela Umbria Italy
I sustained an injury to my left hand that resulted into Pernminant damaged to it.
So therefore, when all is said and done, parents can make or break a child. What fascinates me, are the children who were not loved, supported, protected, cared for as they should or exposed to trauma like Oprah, end up ok, and others do not. What is it about the brain that distinguishes between the two? Words like resilience, mental toughness, a deep desire to thrive can not be calculated as can be the functioning brain. So how do we know?
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Oprah you might as well just do the interview and have the Dr. Ask her the questions since she likes to control the whole aspect
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Would have enjoyed more if Oprah stopped interrupting him over and over
I really do not understand what is these so called interruptions some of you viewers are referencing. I for one thoroughly get the message and would definitely be buying the book. Envy is really a trauma.... because some people let it dictates their ability to listen; therefore making their objectivity narcissistic in nature!!!
11:02 First few years
Post 2020, true humanity justice is becoming more and more the focus of progress, not just the traditional cold stem rat race competitiveness
When you interview someone. Let them talk.
So what can we do to support now grown kids who have these trauma issues as adults? My daughter is 28, and while very bright, she has serious emotional issues because of childhood trauma from exposure to her narcissistic father. She has actually said that she feels that there is someting wrong with her brain.
Counseling or cognitive behavior therapy
Check out Donna Eden's work on re-patterning using neuro-lymphatic points, cross crawls, the Wayne Cook pose; they're profoundly helpful... also there's lots with the Vagus nerve you can do
Experiences you have actually influences your personality behavior and most importantly biology of your brain. These impact on your physical health especially toxic relationships. What happens you in your childhood determines your worldview and that influences your self identity. Trauma is used in big sky events but trauma is the sense that changes your stress response and has long term impact. The event is not a traumu as two people define this word based on their childhood background. Child who has stable early life will not suffer at all.
Silent trauma is unpredictable and inconsistence and the form of micro aggression. Small things affects you in the same way as the big one. This results on diseases like heart diseases. Our brains are strongly influenced in the first two months of our life. In that time we just consume everything. Child who had only two months of adversity it will results in worse outcome. One the other hand if child had only two months of attention will likely to be regulated. Because of the change in your streess response you become more agressiv and defensive over time. Even in safe environment your brain defends you the more they experience the more misunderstandings in adult life. That further traumatizes child. More educated more better off we will be. In ocasions of stress we don't consume any info. Before teaching a kid we should activate and regulate their top of the brain. You can never reach angry person with more stress.
However child's can be altered if there is someone who believes and supports them at most. The best way to make change is reconnection and being regulated.
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Hello mother
8:01 Silent traumas
Awesome awesome
I do NOT like the way she addresses to him, nor interrupt him...Where are your manners Mrs. Winfrey.
why not just add subtitles?
Some people in the Deaf only know sign language, so closed captions doesn't help. It's said hearing people like you and me are not educated about Deaf Culture.
The fact that he’d do anything with Oprah makes me doubt the guy’s bonafides.