Mijn ervaring als Nederlander die in België woont, is dat de gemiddelde Nederlander de taal veel zuiverder beheerst, maar dat áls een Vlaming ABN spreekt de taalvaardigheid echt fenomenaal is. Waarschijnlijk omdat er relatief meer 'moeite' voor moet worden gedaan. De standaardtaal is immers gebaseerd op het Haarlems/Hollands van de elite.
Wat veel Belgen vergeten is dat in Nederland ook heel veel dialecten zijn. Iemand uit Amsterdam praat heel anders Nederlands als iemand uit Maastricht of Groningen en kunnen elkaar alleen verstaan als ze standaard Nederlands met elkaar praten, en zelfs dat is met verschillende accenten.
Als je het vershil tussen een Vlaming en een hollander hoort hoor je ook het verschil tussen een amsterdammer of een maastrichtenaar. omdat de zuidelijke dialecten in Limburg en brabant meer op vlaams lijken. Maar ik kan me wel voorstellen dat je het verschil tussen noordelijke (ook oost en west dus) niet/moeilijk kunt horen
In South Africa we speak Afrikaans, that was considered to be a dialect of Dutch prior to 1920, and derived from 17 century Dutch. But it is much easier for us to understand Flemish than it is for us to understand Dutch. Just as the lady says in the video, they speak much faster, yet our languages are all mutually understandable
Don't listen to her. Belgian Dutch and Netherlands Dutch are like British English and Irish English. They're not distinct languages like Afrikaans and Dutch which each have their own distinct standard.
Stoonbrace This is actually incorrect. Afrikaans is based on an South Holland dialect, because that is where most of the original settlers came from. Polder Dutch has just evolved away from Flemish (and Afrikaans) who retained older characteristics.
Flemish is much closer to 'old dutch'. Dutch has incorporated so may foriegn words (mostly English and some German). Afrikaans if I remember from my schooling in S.A. does not have technical words these are all derived from English.
Really interesting to watch. I've been told that the river Rhine is a sort of divide even in the Netherlands in their way of speaking. It must be already more similar to the Flemish dialects. The Dutch and Belgians I know in my town in Spain point out the things they have un common but it may also be due to living in Spain.
The dutch and the flemish are one people, divided only a few hundred years ago by religion and politics. Flemish people do not like living in one country with french speaking walloons,. There is nothing that they have in common, only some foriegn royalty that lives in Brussels.
This is all wrong! On the news in Flanders they use Standard Dutch with a Flemish accent and maybe a few Flemish words and idioms. On the streets people either speak one of the local Dutch dialects, which BTW go across the borders, so you cannot even say they're specific for Belgium or the Netherlands, or the so-called Flemish "tussentaal" which is intermediate between Standard Dutch in Belgium and the dialects. People say the craziest things on RUclips!
When she talks about the stereotype about dutch people thinking belgians are stupid, I'm surprised they think the same because I know frech people think the same (I'm not sure if it's more towards us wallonian or if it's towards belgian people in general) So France and Netherlands think we are stupid .... who else ? Germany ? Luxembourg ?
+Pedolf Titler i just think wallonia is more stupid than flanders in the past but now people think belgium is stupid because our weird system of governement
Stupid nonsense!!! Does Gert mean that a guy from for example Eindhoven looks different than a guy from for example Antwerp, but the guy from Antwerp looks the same as a guy from for example Charleroi. WTF!!! There are even many more stupid things. What the hell!
Patrick McCarron Yeah. I posted this a few months ago. I should've written that in a different way. Some things just didn't make any sense (in my opinion).
i speak flemish dutch and also use ge , heb je dat , or heb g da? but when I wanna sound formal infront my bos or important people I use je jij it's just nicer then, but on street and with friends and family I use ge gy ! but not like Holland with that strong G sound just soft g
Je je suis pas belge et peut-être ce n'est pas mon droit de critiquer "les" wallons. Néanmoins, il semble que beaucoup de wallons ne font aucun effort d'apprendre le néerlandais. Je ne l'ai comprend pas. On donne l'opportunité d'apprendre une langue fans le système educativa et on ne le profite pas. Maitriser les deux langues est une grande avantage pour trouver les postes de travail et aussi donne la possibilité de gagner une segonde identité. On peut aussi se relationner avec les néerlandais dans un voyage ou découvrir plus facilement les ex-colonies néerlandais.
There is only 1 belgian and thats the king flemish people and de dutch are like same guy diffrent accent thats all our borders are crosses painted on the streets we love like dutch people 250% more then the french speaking people in our country im from belguim btw (for people who not already were awere)
Funny part about all of this is that in Dutch language quizes, the Flemish mostly win over the Dutch
Mijn ervaring als Nederlander die in België woont, is dat de gemiddelde Nederlander de taal veel zuiverder beheerst, maar dat áls een Vlaming ABN spreekt de taalvaardigheid echt fenomenaal is. Waarschijnlijk omdat er relatief meer 'moeite' voor moet worden gedaan. De standaardtaal is immers gebaseerd op het Haarlems/Hollands van de elite.
Wat veel Belgen vergeten is dat in Nederland ook heel veel dialecten zijn. Iemand uit Amsterdam praat heel anders Nederlands als iemand uit Maastricht of Groningen en kunnen elkaar alleen verstaan als ze standaard Nederlands met elkaar praten, en zelfs dat is met verschillende accenten.
Ja ik weet dat wel maar ik als belg hoor het verschil niet zo goed net zoals nederlanders het verschil tussen vlaamse dialecten niet kunnen vinden :)
Als je het vershil tussen een Vlaming en een hollander hoort hoor je ook het verschil tussen een amsterdammer of een maastrichtenaar. omdat de zuidelijke dialecten in Limburg en brabant meer op vlaams lijken. Maar ik kan me wel voorstellen dat je het verschil tussen noordelijke (ook oost en west dus) niet/moeilijk kunt horen
ja maar er is geen standardised versie van die dialecten op het nieuws bv wat er wel is voor vlaams
@@riklauwers8855 alle Nederlanders zouden meteen het verschil horen tussen West-Vlaams en Antwerps hoor
In South Africa we speak Afrikaans, that was considered to be a dialect of Dutch prior to 1920, and derived from 17 century Dutch. But it is much easier for us to understand Flemish than it is for us to understand Dutch. Just as the lady says in the video, they speak much faster, yet our languages are all mutually understandable
Don't listen to her. Belgian Dutch and Netherlands Dutch are like British English and Irish English. They're not distinct languages like Afrikaans and Dutch which each have their own distinct standard.
That's because most of the farmers that moved to South Africa were Flemish (Southern Netherlands) . Afrikaans originates from Flemish.
Ik vind afrikaans wel een grappig dialectje
Stoonbrace This is actually incorrect. Afrikaans is based on an South Holland dialect, because that is where most of the original settlers came from. Polder Dutch has just evolved away from Flemish (and Afrikaans) who retained older characteristics.
Flemish is much closer to 'old dutch'. Dutch has incorporated so may foriegn words (mostly English and some German). Afrikaans if I remember from my schooling in S.A. does not have technical words these are all derived from English.
I can't cook? bitch i'm a masterchef! *I AM FABULOUS!*
every language has its own dialects in spanish there are a lot different ways to say things and in the latin american countries the same.
Really interesting to watch. I've been told that the river Rhine is a sort of divide even in the Netherlands in their way of speaking. It must be already more similar to the Flemish dialects. The Dutch and Belgians I know in my town in Spain point out the things they have un common but it may also be due to living in Spain.
Belgian isn't a language, it's a nationality. Flemish isn't a language, it's an accent. Just saying.
true
+IDontLieALot
Belgium isnt really a nationstate though.
i'm belgian, and i think you're right
IDontLieALot Flemish used to be Its own language. It got abandonned over time as Dutch and Flemish evolved towards eachother again.
IDontLieALot het is niet omdat gij blijkbaar geen Vlaams kunt (en geen Engels ook niet blijkbaar), dat Vlaams geen taal is, krabber
The dutch and the flemish are one people, divided only a few hundred years ago by religion and politics. Flemish people do not like living in one country with french speaking walloons,. There is nothing that they have in common, only some foriegn royalty that lives in Brussels.
This is all wrong! On the news in Flanders they use Standard Dutch with a Flemish accent and maybe a few Flemish words and idioms. On the streets people either speak one of the local Dutch dialects, which BTW go across the borders, so you cannot even say they're specific for Belgium or the Netherlands, or the so-called Flemish "tussentaal" which is intermediate between Standard Dutch in Belgium and the dialects. People say the craziest things on RUclips!
Batavosphere this lady doesn’t know much about what she is talking about. She is poorly educated . ...
Batavosphere Er zyn geen Belgen . . . .THERE ARE NO BELGIANS . . .
Jonn Izzik Mottige separatist
Bram Van Hooydonck oké rare
there does exist such a thing as standardised flemish tho..
When she talks about the stereotype about dutch people thinking belgians are stupid, I'm surprised they think the same because I know frech people think the same (I'm not sure if it's more towards us wallonian or if it's towards belgian people in general)
So France and Netherlands think we are stupid .... who else ? Germany ? Luxembourg ?
I believe that the USA also mocks us.
+Pedolf Titler i just think wallonia is more stupid than flanders in the past but now people think belgium is stupid because our weird system of governement
USA definitely doesn't mock Belgium, 9/10 people from the states couldn't even point Belgium out on a map or even know that it is a country
Hien Andrew Giang Haha well said xD
23rd Bastard Knight The Germans think we are cool because our little army faught so Well. And our beer is better
Stupid nonsense!!!
Does Gert mean that a guy from for example Eindhoven looks different than a guy from for example Antwerp, but the guy from Antwerp looks the same as a guy from for example Charleroi. WTF!!! There are even many more stupid things. What the hell!
Hey, buddy, I think you should calm down.
Patrick McCarron Yeah. I posted this a few months ago. I should've written that in a different way. Some things just didn't make any sense (in my opinion).
i speak flemish dutch and also use ge , heb je dat , or heb g da? but when I wanna sound formal infront my bos or important people I use je jij it's just nicer then, but on street and with friends and family I use ge gy ! but not like Holland with that strong G sound just soft g
Je je suis pas belge et peut-être ce n'est pas mon droit de critiquer "les" wallons. Néanmoins, il semble que beaucoup de wallons ne font aucun effort d'apprendre le néerlandais. Je ne l'ai comprend pas. On donne l'opportunité d'apprendre une langue fans le système educativa et on ne le profite pas. Maitriser les deux langues est une grande avantage pour trouver les postes de travail et aussi donne la possibilité de gagner une segonde identité. On peut aussi se relationner avec les néerlandais dans un voyage ou découvrir plus facilement les ex-colonies néerlandais.
Standard Flemish = standard Dutch, simple as that. There's the Taalunie for that.
There is only 1 belgian and thats the king flemish people and de dutch are like same guy diffrent accent thats all our borders are crosses painted on the streets we love like dutch people 250% more then the french speaking people in our country im from belguim btw (for people who not already were awere)
Speak for yourself
ge en gij are
dialect i think
Um Belgian isn’t a language sorry but get ya facts right
It’s a play on another show called Do you speak American. Get ya facts right
Men noemt dat Oud Germaans. Fries.
flemish*