What I remember from that book was Fine kept asking Fischer very personal questions. Fischer answered most of them, then finally got angry & called him out on it. Bobby was fuming in anger & yelled at Regina. This was one of the reasons he left her a few years later.
Fischer cared about quality over quantity. The time Soviets dominated chess, he studied Russian just to be able to read their chess books. There was no internet then. You have to either go to the library or book stores to be update with chess knowledge. Sure there were coaches then, but Fischer already defeated most of them in America. Fischer is undeniably a chess genius. Anybody who says he isn't is fooling himself. Carlsen definitely didn't work as hard as Fischer did. Fischer had no gf, no wife, didn't get along with her mother. All he did was STUDY CHESS DAY IN/DAY OUT. People need to wake up on the fact that doing everything he did with no coach, no financial support at the same time being chased by the FBI is near impossible with simply a "chess genius brain" even if you are a genius, you still have to work extremely hard to get anywhere near his results.
Explains why he was an extreme mysognist then... He also went literally crazy and thought the holacaust wasnt real! He didn't get a gf or wife only because he was hardworking and wanted to focus on chess, but simply because he was an insufferable human being.
That session is almost the exact plot of an episode of The Office (Season 7, Episode 2 - Counseling) where Michael Scott is tricked by Toby in a counseling session that wasn't supposed to be one. Michael realized it was a counseling session after Toby asked a certain question and Michael called him an S.O.B. among other things and left. It's pretty amusing.
When it became obvious to the Soviets that Fischer was going to challenge for the title, they engaged several teams of psychologist, psychiatrists, etc to prepare profiles to help their players. Some characterised Bobby as a Psychopath, some as a Sociopath. The only thing they all agreed on was that he was a genius. I have a strong feeling Bobby would have agreed with that part.
Fine's play is a prime example how not to play against the Evans gambit. In fact I have to assume Fine either never saw or completely forgot any theory about this line.
Fischer is the greatest . Did not get help from computers. Only GM to beat super GMs at the candidate matches by 6-0, 6-0, 6-0. And Petrosian could only manage 3 or 5 draws and lost by a lot. His ELO separation from the next GM when he retired was by a mile. Carlsen, Kasparov, Karpov never achieved all this.
The timeline in your introductory remarks is incorrect. You say Fine nettled Fischer with a question about school, and that Fischer stormed out and they never played again. Fisher left school in '59, yet this match is dated 1963, by which time Fisher was 20.
My psychoanalysis of R.J. Fischer is as follows: he possessed a crystal clear, classical understanding of chess; he had an indomitable will to win; he disdained Grandmaster draws; he was a maverick who took no prisoners; he always demonstrated good sportsmanship win, lose, or draw; he made invaluable contributions to the chess world; he paved the way for players to earn a comfortable living playing chess; he devoted vast amounts of time and energy to reach the top of the chess world; toward the end of his life he devoted himself to reading about history and governments; he remarked, “Nothing eases suffering like human touch.” His name will be mentioned as long as chess is played.
@@Rspknlikeab0ssxd Grammatically there is nothing wrong with that piece of text. Punctuation is a bit excessive, though, but that could point to some artificial origin.
gooddognigel: Does your 'psychoanalysis' not take into account that Fischer was a bitter and disturbed mother-hating misogynist, and an anti-semite? As for his 'always demonstrating good sportsmanship', what about the game when Fischer made the first move, and his opponent, purely as a joke, said 'I resign', and then Fischer insisting on taking the point Do you call that good sportsmanship? Fischer was a top player, but try getting real before licking his boots as you are doing. As for his name always being mentioned as long as chess is played, well of course it will be. But so what? That is true of every world champion and many other great players. Carlson would trounce Fischer, just as Alekhine would have done.
@@williambunter3311 how will you prove your assertion that Carlsen and Alekhine would “trounce” Fischer? Did you invent a time machine? Can you bring people back from the dead?
Fine followed Freud's thinking, overly laden w/Victorian ideas & Greek language, but a younger more brilliant member of his inner (Otto Rank) broke Freud's "system" artfully---just as we see Fischer break Fine's chess eloquently. Nice post!
As did Jung, Reich, and Frankl. Most of Freud's students except for maybe his daughter Anna, ditched his nihilistic philosophy and brought things back from the edge. Freud's work had narrow application for success and was never the foundation for understanding human behavior Freud thought it did.
Ruben Fine: "The Ideas Behind the Chess Openings."
I still have my copy.
@chessdawg you make the best Chess videos! Enjoy watching each and everyone one
What I remember from that book was Fine kept asking Fischer very personal questions. Fischer answered most of them, then finally got angry & called him out on it. Bobby was fuming in anger & yelled at Regina. This was one of the reasons he left her a few years later.
What was the name of the book?😊
That undeveloped bishop that traps the rook is such a fatal flaw in so many games. This highlights the importance of development.
I'm a simple man. I see ChessDawg has uploaded a video, and I hit like and subscribe 👍😊
Lasker's philosophy was to play the player. He would play an inferior move just to rattle his opponent. Fischer would never do that.😮
Carlsen use This same strategy
Fischer cared about quality over quantity. The time Soviets dominated chess, he studied Russian just to be able to read their chess books. There was no internet then. You have to either go to the library or book stores to be update with chess knowledge. Sure there were coaches then, but Fischer already defeated most of them in America. Fischer is undeniably a chess genius. Anybody who says he isn't is fooling himself. Carlsen definitely didn't work as hard as Fischer did. Fischer had no gf, no wife, didn't get along with her mother. All he did was STUDY CHESS DAY IN/DAY OUT. People need to wake up on the fact that doing everything he did with no coach, no financial support at the same time being chased by the FBI is near impossible with simply a "chess genius brain" even if you are a genius, you still have to work extremely hard to get anywhere near his results.
So whats the point of this comment?
Genius is 99 ,% perspiration and one %inspiration. and also never losing focus.
@@jamalempfehlung9841Bobby can beat you without his Queen.
@@seka1986 bobby would shit in your face and you would say thanks.
Explains why he was an extreme mysognist then... He also went literally crazy and thought the holacaust wasnt real! He didn't get a gf or wife only because he was hardworking and wanted to focus on chess, but simply because he was an insufferable human being.
Bobby Fischer is like a mixture of Morphy and Kasparov.
That session is almost the exact plot of an episode of The Office (Season 7, Episode 2 - Counseling) where Michael Scott is tricked by Toby in a counseling session that wasn't supposed to be one. Michael realized it was a counseling session after Toby asked a certain question and Michael called him an S.O.B. among other things and left. It's pretty amusing.
It wasn't fine of Fine to trick Robert Fischer.
Bobby was one of the good ones.
When it became obvious to the Soviets that Fischer was going to challenge for the title, they engaged several teams of psychologist, psychiatrists, etc to prepare profiles to help their players. Some characterised Bobby as a Psychopath, some as a Sociopath. The only thing they all agreed on was that he was a genius. I have a strong feeling Bobby would have agreed with that part.
Fine's play is a prime example how not to play against the Evans gambit. In fact I have to assume Fine either never saw or completely forgot any theory about this line.
Thanks for the nice video.
Sweet Game!
Fischer is the greatest . Did not get help from computers. Only GM to beat super GMs at the candidate matches by 6-0, 6-0, 6-0. And Petrosian could only manage 3 or 5 draws and lost by a lot. His ELO separation from the next GM when he retired was by a mile. Carlsen, Kasparov, Karpov never achieved all this.
absolutely! Only comparable to Morphy
Fine was outclassed. LOL
The timeline in your introductory remarks is incorrect. You say Fine nettled Fischer with a question about
school, and that Fischer stormed out and they never played again. Fisher left school in '59, yet this match is dated 1963, by which time Fisher was 20.
My psychoanalysis of R.J. Fischer is as follows: he possessed a crystal clear, classical understanding of chess; he had an indomitable will to win; he disdained Grandmaster draws; he was a maverick who took no prisoners; he always demonstrated good sportsmanship win, lose, or draw; he made invaluable contributions to the chess world; he paved the way for players to earn a comfortable living playing chess; he devoted vast amounts of time and energy to reach the top of the chess world; toward the end of his life he devoted himself to reading about history and governments; he remarked, “Nothing eases suffering like human touch.”
His name will be mentioned as long as chess is played.
Anymore AI generated vomit to spew? 🤡
Triple digit elo cheater move spotted
@@robdubent Yep, he didn't pass the Turing test.
@@Rspknlikeab0ssxd Grammatically there is nothing wrong with that piece of text. Punctuation is a bit excessive, though, but that could point to some artificial origin.
gooddognigel: Does your 'psychoanalysis' not take into account that Fischer was a bitter and disturbed mother-hating misogynist, and an anti-semite? As for his 'always demonstrating good sportsmanship', what about the game when Fischer made the first move, and his opponent, purely as a joke, said 'I resign', and then Fischer insisting on taking the point Do you call that good sportsmanship? Fischer was a top player, but try getting real before licking his boots as you are doing. As for his name always being mentioned as long as chess is played, well of course it will be. But so what? That is true of every world champion and many other great players. Carlson would trounce Fischer, just as Alekhine would have done.
@@williambunter3311 how will you prove your assertion that Carlsen and Alekhine would “trounce” Fischer? Did you invent a time machine? Can you bring people back from the dead?
great title!
You should make a video about me man; I have not lost to Fischer ever in my life. Not ONCE I tell you!
And Bobby never even got a draw :^)
Fine followed Freud's thinking, overly laden w/Victorian ideas & Greek language, but a younger more brilliant member of his inner (Otto Rank) broke Freud's "system" artfully---just as we see Fischer break Fine's chess eloquently. Nice post!
As did Jung, Reich, and Frankl. Most of Freud's students except for maybe his daughter Anna, ditched his nihilistic philosophy and brought things back from the edge. Freud's work had narrow application for success and was never the foundation for understanding human behavior Freud thought it did.
@@PeterWhite-q1k Bravo! Well put!
Wow 😮 , just Wow 🎉
Get your facts correct. In 1963 Fischer was 20 and had dropped out of school.
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