I like this product, but Godox has had this technology and similar attachments for years, not to mention for a cheaper price. i would highly recommend looking into the Godox versions and review them. I think you would like them just as much.
Yeah I'd love to try it as well. These "technology" isn't really new as the greats have been using them in the 80s and 90s but I just loved having a reasonably priced one for Profoto. -P
@@JeffBennionPhotography yeah I read that article! Always good to get opinions from someone who has them both side by side. I can’t imagine using the Godox one if the Gobo isn’t easily tweakable like you suggest. That “V” image you created is so awesome! -P
@@FStoppers I have the gobo kit and lenses for the godox attachments. It's extremely easy to create that V effect, and they have multiple patterns to use on as a gobo. The Lindsay Adler version sounds pretty cool though with the Canon Ef mount, which means I can get the Metabones Adapter and use all of my Sony lenses with it. Definitely interested in trying out some day. Maybe I will make a video using the Godox Version that I have.
@@RyanLImagery The part that was the most difficult for me was getting it done precisely with a subject who would move slightly and then suddenly, it's not where it needs to be. So, if yo are shooting people, being able to have them stand still for 5 seconds vs 20 seconds is a big issue. The Godox and Westcott gobos are interchangeable though. Exact same size.
Have you looked at the Paul C Buff version? Only capability they don't have is using the Canon lens and the "barn doors" are not permanently attached. They come with the Gobos and color gels included and much cheaper ($380.00). With the Link & Celestial units, color domes, one of my favorite light modifier.
The draw back is Buff's mounting system - the adapters for a bowens mounts etc - don't fit exactly - I sold all my Buff lighting and modifiers because of the weak mounting system Buff has.
@@FStoppers think of putting them begins the metal plates of the snoot . I have led modeling light so it will not get warm I think . If I put them in front of the lens doesn’t it lose sharp in the edge .?
Btw if you are using foam core and you want a sharp edge, bring your light closer to the foam core or bring the Foam core closer to the subject. You see there is this magical thing called *Learning how light works* I'm in my room right now and every object despite being 20 feet from the light has a hard shadow. Really not complicated
why you guys are always paying high prices for items that come with just another name or brand.?? these products are originally from china. these guys just put there names or brand and then selling the same product for much higher prices. just got to ali express and search the product you want. you can get the same product for much lower price with free shipping. Thankz me later
you might want to learn more industry standard names for the things you are talking about. by the time you said "Gobo" i was surprised you knew the term.
Gobo and cookie (cookie is short for cucoloris) are both long industry standard terms. You might hear cookie more often when referring to something larger, in the 2'x3' or 4'x4' range but they are the same thing. You could even use a plant _as_ a cookie or gobo and it's not incorrect terminology -but it's still a plant.
@@kurtlindner I have been doing stage lighting for 30+ years and have never once heard the term cookie used. it has always been called a gobo that i have heard. maybe it is different when talking about photo lights as they are a bit different.
Absolutely overpriced piece of equipment. By the way Lindsay Adler didn’t invent it. She’s just giving her name so the manufacturer can sell it for this high price. You can buy the same thing from Jinbei for half the price.
I had an old 75-300 EF lens that I used instead of the lens that shipped with the unit and that allowed me change the zoom in/out the projected mask images to fit my needs. I also used an inexpensive extension tube which allows me to get very close to the subject (i.e. I used the extension tube to shrink the size of the heart shape mask onto a models face and highlight her T zones). All in all very handy particularly in product photography.
thanks for the detail of this optical spot. question: for adding the color gels, does it snap on or screw on to the end of the included 150mm lens? also, if i have EF mount Canon lenses, what mm size is the adapter for the color gel? i get the impression it likely can be used on other EF mount lenses, but would need to be the same size as the color gel adapter.
Also have this on my wishlist, but I've read that supposedly it's meant to withstand only a 100w COB constant light, but I've seen people like Manny Ortiz mount this on a 300w COB light. I'm curious if there is a tested limit it can withstand because I'd like to mess with this with a 500w if possible, not at full power always, but maybe above 250w and not worry about melting or breaking the lens.
If you're using steel gobos it should be able to handle a 500w cob light -but it will get too hot to adjust with your hands, have oven mits with you, regular grip gloves might not be adequate. The only real concern is the lens cracking due to the temperature differences, but it's easily replaced for minor expense.
Curious to see what you would do with 300w or 500w that you couldn't do with 100. When I tested the godox one, I used a 60 watt light, but now I use a 100w light and I don't really feel that I need more than that. I was shooting at 1.8 though, so maybe if you need to have a different depth of field, but I've never really seen an image where you are covering half of it in shadow patterns and everything needs to be in in the focus plane you'd get at f/8. I think also hitting a model with 300w of light is pretty harsh for a constant light.
This kit certainly looks interesting, not something I need, want or will get but interesting to know it exists and would be fun to play with. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the next coronavirus lock-down videos, the popcorn is waiting!
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I can’t wait for mine, i just bought a few days ago
I like this product, but Godox has had this technology and similar attachments for years, not to mention for a cheaper price. i would highly recommend looking into the Godox versions and review them. I think you would like them just as much.
Yeah I'd love to try it as well. These "technology" isn't really new as the greats have been using them in the 80s and 90s but I just loved having a reasonably priced one for Profoto. -P
I wrote an article for fstoppers comparing the Godox one and this one.
@@JeffBennionPhotography yeah I read that article! Always good to get opinions from someone who has them both side by side. I can’t imagine using the Godox one if the Gobo isn’t easily tweakable like you suggest. That “V” image you created is so awesome! -P
@@FStoppers I have the gobo kit and lenses for the godox attachments. It's extremely easy to create that V effect, and they have multiple patterns to use on as a gobo. The Lindsay Adler version sounds pretty cool though with the Canon Ef mount, which means I can get the Metabones Adapter and use all of my Sony lenses with it. Definitely interested in trying out some day. Maybe I will make a video using the Godox Version that I have.
@@RyanLImagery The part that was the most difficult for me was getting it done precisely with a subject who would move slightly and then suddenly, it's not where it needs to be. So, if yo are shooting people, being able to have them stand still for 5 seconds vs 20 seconds is a big issue. The Godox and Westcott gobos are interchangeable though. Exact same size.
Thank you for the video. Can you mount Canon RF lenses to it as well as the EF?
Have you looked at the Paul C Buff version? Only capability they don't have is using the Canon lens and the "barn doors" are not permanently attached. They come with the Gobos and color gels included and much cheaper ($380.00). With the Link & Celestial units, color domes, one of my favorite light modifier.
The draw back is Buff's mounting system - the adapters for a bowens mounts etc - don't fit exactly - I sold all my Buff lighting and modifiers because of the weak mounting system Buff has.
Like different light adapters they must offer different make lens adapter option too.
a very insightful review with great insights
I bought the Profoto adapter model, but sent it back. It just felt really cheaply made, especially for the price.
itss a 100% JJJJinnbeiiiii version costing 250EUR - good proooooofittt for Wesccccotttt
and Mrs Adler
Looking to buy this, but does anyone Know if you can use a Nikon F to EF mount & use Nikon Glass ?
is it changable lens?
why is this not possible with a dlp projector?
is it possible to shoot only with optical spot and not using any other light ?
Yes of course! -P
@@FStoppers sooo you have any video of using only optical spot on profoto b10. And none of the fill lights?
Could be fun but I have never had a paying client want me to do this!
Sometimes you have to show a sample on your website for them to want it.
Quick question, will this work with an old EF kit lens? Does the variable aperture matters? Thanks
Yes it will.
If you use other lens where you put the gels .?
Just have to tape them on or buy separate gels. Def can't make the gel pack compatible with all other lenses. -P
@@FStoppers think of putting them begins the metal plates of the snoot . I have led modeling light so it will not get warm I think . If I put them in front of the lens doesn’t it lose sharp in the edge .?
Btw if you are using foam core and you want a sharp edge, bring your light closer to the foam core or bring the Foam core closer to the subject.
You see there is this magical thing called *Learning how light works*
I'm in my room right now and every object despite being 20 feet from the light has a hard shadow. Really not complicated
Don’t underestimate Patrick Hall.
You see there is this magical thing called Learning how Marketing works.
Old lenses got new goal
You say you can mount gel but if you are using any lens except the stock standard lens then you have to revert back to using 3rd party gels....
The Picture on the box is deceiving. You cant create that image with one box. You need 2 Optical Spots.
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why you guys are always paying high prices for items that come with just another name or brand.?? these products are originally from china. these guys just put there names or brand and then selling the same product for much higher prices. just got to ali express and search the product you want. you can get the same product for much lower price with free shipping. Thankz me later
you might want to learn more industry standard names for the things you are talking about. by the time you said "Gobo" i was surprised you knew the term.
Gobo and cookie (cookie is short for cucoloris) are both long industry standard terms.
You might hear cookie more often when referring to something larger, in the 2'x3' or 4'x4' range but they are the same thing.
You could even use a plant _as_ a cookie or gobo and it's not incorrect terminology -but it's still a plant.
@@kurtlindner I have been doing stage lighting for 30+ years and have never once heard the term cookie used. it has always been called a gobo that i have heard. maybe it is different when talking about photo lights as they are a bit different.
Beautiful versache
Absolutely overpriced piece of equipment. By the way Lindsay Adler didn’t invent it. She’s just giving her name so the manufacturer can sell it for this high price. You can buy the same thing from Jinbei for half the price.
I had an old 75-300 EF lens that I used instead of the lens that shipped with the unit and that allowed me change the zoom in/out the projected mask images to fit my needs. I also used an inexpensive extension tube which allows me to get very close to the subject (i.e. I used the extension tube to shrink the size of the heart shape mask onto a models face and highlight her T zones). All in all very handy particularly in product photography.
Fujuitsu
not a sharp lens so the difference is noticeable on making sharp edges
I miss fstopper!!! More video please especially lee comedic timing
You can get this for 150€ online.. this is just expensive branding
i dont think so if you want some quality. Can you name a brand?
they buy it from Jinbei - costing 250 EUR....
Yeah I got this off of Amazon for way less than they’re charging. It’s an exact dupe and based on this video, I think I got the same one.
Why is it $600 😂
thanks for the detail of this optical spot. question: for adding the color gels, does it snap on or screw on to the end of the included 150mm lens? also, if i have EF mount Canon lenses, what mm size is the adapter for the color gel? i get the impression it likely can be used on other EF mount lenses, but would need to be the same size as the color gel adapter.
great review and very cool option - I think the time saved from trying to create the patterns is worth the investment
Awesome!! Great content.
Also have this on my wishlist, but I've read that supposedly it's meant to withstand only a 100w COB constant light, but I've seen people like Manny Ortiz mount this on a 300w COB light.
I'm curious if there is a tested limit it can withstand because I'd like to mess with this with a 500w if possible, not at full power always, but maybe above 250w and not worry about melting or breaking the lens.
If you're using steel gobos it should be able to handle a 500w cob light -but it will get too hot to adjust with your hands, have oven mits with you, regular grip gloves might not be adequate.
The only real concern is the lens cracking due to the temperature differences, but it's easily replaced for minor expense.
Curious to see what you would do with 300w or 500w that you couldn't do with 100. When I tested the godox one, I used a 60 watt light, but now I use a 100w light and I don't really feel that I need more than that. I was shooting at 1.8 though, so maybe if you need to have a different depth of field, but I've never really seen an image where you are covering half of it in shadow patterns and everything needs to be in in the focus plane you'd get at f/8. I think also hitting a model with 300w of light is pretty harsh for a constant light.
This kit certainly looks interesting, not something I need, want or will get but interesting to know it exists and would be fun to play with. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the next coronavirus lock-down videos, the popcorn is waiting!