11:15 Those who thought that the Alstom C751A traction system was GTO-VVVF, they probably thought it was GEC Alstom GTO-VVVF, but the actual traction system is Alstom ONIX 1500 IGBT-VVVF
The C651 motor has the best sound ever. It's sad it didn't get the refurbishment like the older ones have, its got a great tune to it, having a pleasant pitch. Not to mention the sound and design of its doors too.
C651 already had delayed refurbishment many times. I think the spaces at Bishan Depot can only take out certain train for upgrades. Now that new trains are coming, SMRT will only bother to replace old train (Before mass influx of C151A/B/C). 2024 will be the final year of C651 and C751Bs. 2026 will be the final year of C151.
I kinda prefer the KNS motors tbh, despite the motor softer than the KSF ones but the interior of the third generation trains are quite special for NSEWL tbh
5:37 The C751B's motor sounds quite similar to that of the C151A/B/C, the only difference is the sound of the motor before and after the train accelerates or decelerates.
Useful info for us new enthus who are either primary sch kids or young teen lower sec pupils and also useful info for the general public too! One day, a lot of people might be train enthus!
The sound of inverters, OptoniX for example, depends mainly on two factors. The type of incoming current/the type of current that the motors use, and the modulation chosen by the manufacturer. This explains the difference in existing pitch for the Optonix or the OniX (worldwide).
My favourite motors in Singapore: KHI GTO Chopper (C151, the 'iconic and classic') SIE GTO (C651, the 'Legendary') KNS IBGT Fuji Electric (C751B, the 'sample of KSF') KSF IBGT (C151B) and C751C (NEL, 'meledic like Siemens') My favourite models: Siemens C651 Kawasaki Heavy Industries C751B Kawasaki Heavy Industries & CSR / CRRC Sifang C151B Alstom Metropolis C751C (NEL) Kawasaki Heavy Industries & CRRC Sifang CT251 (TEL) Tbh, although not many people likes China made trains (especially KSF) very much, but C151B and C751C are the China made trains that made my rides feel enjoyable and relaxing
Fun fact: the traction motor on the Alstom Metropolis C830C are the exact same as those used on the Amsterdam Metro M5 M6, also part of the Alstom Metropolis family.
11:09 Just so yall know, the transistors (GTO & IGBT) isnt the one that makes your C751A sound like older train models with GTO-VVVF, rather how the Variable Frequency Drive or VFD is programmed. Since this train was made around when IGBT was introduced, its bound to sound like older models with GTO-VVVF as the VFD's are programmed similarly (I'm simplifying a lot)🤓
I honestly think an updated version is needed for R151 and the C851E NEL variant. The C851E's motor sounds slightly higher-pitched than the C751C's motor.
Watched till the end! Once again, another excellent work! 👍🏻👍🏻 For me I personally prefer the C830C motor sound, which is melodious and you can hear it clearly even with the PSDs enclosing the tracks. Second is definitely C651. In fact I would classify both models of trains as the melodious duo.
My personal favourite motors are those of the C751Bs and the KSF trains (since all 3 generations of the KSFs have the same motor) from the NSEWL and the C830C from the CCL.
My favourites from each line: MRT (1/2) NSEWL a) KHI Nippon Sharyo C751B b) KHI / CRRC Qingdao Sifang C151C (3) NEL: All of them! (4) CCL: Alstom Metropolis C830C (5) DTL: Bombardier Movia C951 (6) TEL: KHI CRRC Qingdao Sifang CT251 LRT BP: Bombardier Innovia APM 100 C801A
it was such a nostalgic time whenever i waited for a train in 2019 and it was a siemens c651. why? bc i would put on my airpods and listen to birds by imagine dragons during exam period. i was traveling to bras basah very frequently to buy past exam papers and i would play the ending part “i know that ooh, birds fly in every direction … i hope to see you again” and the ascending nostalgic ooh-ooh-ooh part will be simultaneously synchronised to the melodic howls when the c651s leave the stations. the first one i’d hear is “next station: pioneer” and the howl will be so forever emblazoned on my mind as the paramountcy of both smrt and sbs’ train sounds. 🚇 the best part? well, the fact that announcements are muffled means that it felt like i was traveling on an endless journey (without defined locations) 🫠🫠🫠 also speaking of, bras basah station is sooooooooo underrated, im always hanging around there after school when i get the chance bc the western food at the lazada food ct is decent and $4.9 for fried rice is … okay … but honestly the other ones are expensive. well, at least thanks to the fact that there are multiple hotels in the vicinity such as strand hotel or mi bencoolen, coupled w the fact that ppl are starting to realise how breathtaking that ceiling is, i think it is starting to gradually garner attention from ang mohs 🥹 ok sorry for rambling on but pls sam open soon 🎨 so ppl can find a reason to go to bras basah, unless its sec students like me who … well … eh … i dont always buy (i do haphazardly) the past year exam papers … to be frugal … i … just often frequently head there just to … heheh … view the exam papers and books w/o purchasing 😈 i mean tbh its not illegal right … okay but my main point here is that every time i would take the ewl to city hall (and change to dhoby to access ccl) … id be so elated once i hear that melodic c651 howls 🥺 however, mostly, it would often be from the changi depot (pasir ris side) and not much from the tuas depot 🥺🥺🥺 pls lta i pray for you to just store some more c651s there so my journeys to sch every morning would be not so lacklustre 🚊
26 of them were sent back for repairs in 2016 due to the cracks found a few years ago, then there was a Joo Koon collision the following year which resulted many enthusiasts and commuters mostly ignoring this model (unless special apperances like on CGL) as it was the ‘most problematic’ model of the network (worse than the KHI or even SIE).
![[SMRT][EXCLUSIVE DOOR FAULT] KSF C151C [719/720] - NS26 Raffles Place » NS28 Marina South Pier (NSL)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cjXx3H0CgHA/mqdefault.jpg)
11:15 Those who thought that the Alstom C751A traction system was GTO-VVVF, they probably thought it was GEC Alstom GTO-VVVF, but the actual traction system is Alstom ONIX 1500 IGBT-VVVF
The C651 motor has the best sound ever. It's sad it didn't get the refurbishment like the older ones have, its got a great tune to it, having a pleasant pitch. Not to mention the sound and design of its doors too.
C651 already had delayed refurbishment many times. I think the spaces at Bishan Depot can only take out certain train for upgrades. Now that new trains are coming, SMRT will only bother to replace old train (Before mass influx of C151A/B/C).
2024 will be the final year of C651 and C751Bs.
2026 will be the final year of C151.
I kinda prefer the KNS motors tbh, despite the motor softer than the KSF ones but the interior of the third generation trains are quite special for NSEWL tbh
Even if the refurbished SIEs where refurbished, the motor would be PMSM not GTO-VVVF
the osaka metro yotsubashi line which is full 23 series fleet sounds like C651
unfortunately most yotsubashi line trains have had their motor replaced :(
@@sbs2828s i think most of them still have their original GTO motors, i rode them like 3-4 days ago and still sounds like C651
@@TWGF1853 hmm interesting... maybe i js had bad luck 😅
12:14 The NEL variant of the C851E train has the EXACT SAME MOTOR SOUND AS THE C751C!!!
5:37 The C751B's motor sounds quite similar to that of the C151A/B/C, the only difference is the sound of the motor before and after the train accelerates or decelerates.
Useful info for us new enthus who are either primary sch kids or young teen lower sec pupils and also useful info for the general public too!
One day, a lot of people might be train enthus!
The sound of inverters, OptoniX for example, depends mainly on two factors. The type of incoming current/the type of current that the motors use, and the modulation chosen by the manufacturer.
This explains the difference in existing pitch for the Optonix or the OniX (worldwide).
1:14 Sounds like EMU700 from Taiwan Railway
My favourite motors in Singapore:
KHI GTO Chopper (C151, the 'iconic and classic')
SIE GTO (C651, the 'Legendary')
KNS IBGT Fuji Electric (C751B, the 'sample of KSF')
KSF IBGT (C151B) and
C751C (NEL, 'meledic like Siemens')
My favourite models:
Siemens C651
Kawasaki Heavy Industries C751B
Kawasaki Heavy Industries & CSR / CRRC Sifang C151B
Alstom Metropolis C751C (NEL)
Kawasaki Heavy Industries & CRRC Sifang CT251 (TEL)
Tbh, although not many people likes China made trains (especially KSF) very much, but C151B and C751C are the China made trains that made my rides feel enjoyable and relaxing
18:25 The TEL CT251 traction system is not Mitsubishi SiC-VVVF, it is the Mitsubishi SiC IGBT-VVVF (Hybrid)
Fun fact: the traction motor on the Alstom Metropolis C830C are the exact same as those used on the Amsterdam Metro M5 M6, also part of the Alstom Metropolis family.
The effort put in 🔥🔥🔥🔥
thank you for the compliment!
11:09 Just so yall know, the transistors (GTO & IGBT) isnt the one that makes your C751A sound like older train models with GTO-VVVF, rather how the Variable Frequency Drive or VFD is programmed. Since this train was made around when IGBT was introduced, its bound to sound like older models with GTO-VVVF as the VFD's are programmed similarly (I'm simplifying a lot)🤓
I honestly think an updated version is needed for R151 and the C851E NEL variant. The C851E's motor sounds slightly higher-pitched than the C751C's motor.
The C810/A motors always remind me of the S Stock motor in London
2:40 Among the 6 C151 trains with the PMSM motor, 095/096 is now retired. Hence, there are only 5 active PMSM C151 trains left.
Wow! The content is amazing! You deserve a lot more subscribers than this
thank you for the compliment!
What everyone else listen to while studying: Music on Spotify
What i listen to while studying:
no way you gained like 200 subscribers in 1 day or so(congrats on 1k)
thank you!
Watched till the end! Once again, another excellent work! 👍🏻👍🏻
For me I personally prefer the C830C motor sound, which is melodious and you can hear it clearly even with the PSDs enclosing the tracks. Second is definitely C651. In fact I would classify both models of trains as the melodious duo.
glad that you enjoyed the video!
1:02:23 its only c951 dtl mixed with t251
Amazing content, watched the whole video! Keep it up :)
thank you for the compliment :)
16:27 I totally agree with this. The C830C train DOES sound a lot nicer than its predecessor.
My personal favourite motors are those of the C751Bs and the KSF trains (since all 3 generations of the KSFs have the same motor) from the NSEWL and the C830C from the CCL.
Sometimes if both c151 is strong motor it sounds like MLR in hong kong.
The c751b, c151a, c151b, and c151c sounds like sp1900 + tml c train
Me honestly, I have a soft spot for the original motor, but the best deceleration sound, I have to give to the C651.
Wow your're active
Fun fact the motor of C751C accelerating is the same motor noise as KLIA Transit train CRRC Changchun Equator EMU noise
the monorail traction motor is Hitachi IGBT-VVVF
The c151 use drum clock type display and the c651 use flipdot display right
The MRT station icons on the DRMD of TEL is outdated...
My favourites from each line:
MRT
(1/2) NSEWL
a) KHI Nippon Sharyo C751B
b) KHI / CRRC Qingdao Sifang C151C
(3) NEL: All of them!
(4) CCL: Alstom Metropolis C830C
(5) DTL: Bombardier Movia C951
(6) TEL: KHI CRRC Qingdao Sifang CT251
LRT
BP: Bombardier Innovia APM 100 C801A
it was such a nostalgic time whenever i waited for a train in 2019 and it was a siemens c651. why? bc i would put on my airpods and listen to birds by imagine dragons during exam period. i was traveling to bras basah very frequently to buy past exam papers and i would play the ending part “i know that ooh, birds fly in every direction … i hope to see you again” and the ascending nostalgic ooh-ooh-ooh part will be simultaneously synchronised to the melodic howls when the c651s leave the stations. the first one i’d hear is “next station: pioneer” and the howl will be so forever emblazoned on my mind as the paramountcy of both smrt and sbs’ train sounds. 🚇
the best part? well, the fact that announcements are muffled means that it felt like i was traveling on an endless journey (without defined locations) 🫠🫠🫠
also speaking of, bras basah station is sooooooooo underrated, im always hanging around there after school when i get the chance bc the western food at the lazada food ct is decent and $4.9 for fried rice is … okay … but honestly the other ones are expensive.
well, at least thanks to the fact that there are multiple hotels in the vicinity such as strand hotel or mi bencoolen, coupled w the fact that ppl are starting to realise how breathtaking that ceiling is, i think it is starting to gradually garner attention from ang mohs 🥹
ok sorry for rambling on but pls sam open soon 🎨 so ppl can find a reason to go to bras basah, unless its sec students like me who … well … eh … i dont always buy (i do haphazardly) the past year exam papers … to be frugal … i … just often frequently head there just to … heheh … view the exam papers and books w/o purchasing 😈 i mean tbh its not illegal right …
okay but my main point here is that every time i would take the ewl to city hall (and change to dhoby to access ccl) … id be so elated once i hear that melodic c651 howls 🥺
however, mostly, it would often be from the changi depot (pasir ris side) and not much from the tuas depot 🥺🥺🥺 pls lta i pray for you to just store some more c651s there so my journeys to sch every morning would be not so lacklustre 🚊
wow that must have been great memories!
What is the "defective with multiple problems" with the C151A?
26 of them were sent back for repairs in 2016 due to the cracks found a few years ago, then there was a Joo Koon collision the following year which resulted many enthusiasts and commuters mostly ignoring this model (unless special apperances like on CGL) as it was the ‘most problematic’ model of the network (worse than the KHI or even SIE).
The KSFA has been gliding for at least 15 seconds in Toa Payoh!
And what is the font you use for this video? 59:35 the subtitles are chopped off
the lta font, and sorry for the subtitles being chopped off
@@sbs2828s I meant what is the name of the font?
I spotted 5 C651s today in EWL and got a chance to board it from city hall to bugis lmao
Im your 1kth sub
thank you so much!!
Holy shit the effort that you put into this video! Good job!
thank you for the compliment!
The C830C the seats in not brown is Khaki color
oops, sorry for the mistake
what about thenewest alstom movia r151
look at the date this video was published
9:50 If the C151C continues to run on EWL even after 4 November 2023, instead of calling it "NSL C151C", it will be renamed as "NSEWL C151C".
lazy
C151 Mitsubishi GTO Chopper is the best
Japanese railway fan call it “Eidan-Chopper” or “Violin Chopper” and so on.
Somehow my fan makes the sound similar to that of C751B
C951 sounds like MP05 in
Paris Metro
14:05 she was like running but SIKE
totally not watching this video every time i feel like having a listen at the mrt LOL
i think an updated version is needed for R151!
R151 uses SIC-VVVF
Great video!!
I want to C151A motors change to C751B motor
Doors to
Which is your favourite train and motor?
c751b!
For me is pmsm c151!
Is 301/302 the money train?
The announcements on the LRTs are always muffled for some reason...
1.1m/s2 seems to be the standard acceleration
14:05 LOL
Don't understand why some people likes to rush to the train somewhat thinking that 'This is the Last Train, I better board it' lol
C751A sounds like TFL Northern Line
Jubilee actually
the effort tho
thank you for the compliment!
I thought you said LGBTQ instead of IGBT(lol)
my school classmates in a nutshell when they asked me about train motors:
@@sbs2828s yes
@@sbs2828s yes
LOL My first thought tho-
Why train is old
to my surprise, i don't know the reason. i search for the reason i cant find. find out the reason. it still remains a mystery to me...
14:06 feel bad for her
A lot of time and effort went into creating this video!
45:51 bruh my c830 stalker
Wow Singapore
yo, plz put in tts next time eitherwise great effort
thank you for the compliment! the reason why i didn't put text to speech voice was because this video is meant for viewers to enjoy train motor sounds
@@sbs2828s Oh, ok
No way you did the BP train dirty by saying that it is singapores cheapest roller-coaster💀
KNS C751B is the best
agree
True of all models
agree
Nice
nice
thank you for the compliment!
🎉🎉
Nw line
Se like
Pac Man In Train
hey bro, just a heads up but someone stole ur video