Also yes, I am MVSwords. Feel free to add me and shower me with gifts. If you remember me from that times I contributed 1% damage on missions... I was trying out weapons for videos.
Honestly i wish more players approached some missions tactically , would love to see a squad under this ruleset after forma on the frames used. Love the video so far
Another cool thing you could try is running warframe missions with one regular warframe and the squad mates playing like this to simulate trying to be soldiers helping a warframe. Kind of like ODST
Not sure if you still can, but you used to be able to have your last frame stolen via Zanuka Hunter to be forced into play "suit" an excalibur with no abilities and only 100 hp and shields. If still possible maybe if you want to redo the challenge you can make a new account and get your last frame stolen, and see if you can progress as "suit".
@@MarcusVance would you be open to using mods that don't do anything super magical like +ammo mod that would act like an extra bandolier on a soldier? Silence mods that functions as a silencer, or zoom mods? Or maybe allow veterancy as you progress like every planet you clear you can level up a reload speed mod by one level or sprint speed? Just some ideas to help progress because beating the game unmodded and powerless is going to be very difficult, not impossible just difficult. Afterall worst gun in the game stug was used and documented to the star chart alone. Maybe if it starts to get tough, add hobbled key and slap on an armor mod.
@@MarcusVanceI read title without watching the video and posted a comment. I thought it was a question "can regular soldier beat warframe". Well anyway answer stays pretty much the same XD
You just brought back a memory from when I started playing warframe. The game sucked so much for me until a guy asked me why I was using all 4 dragon keys. I was just trying to equip every tool I had and didn't bother to read what the things I equipped did. I must've played like 50 hours with those damn things on
Dude, it hit me like a shock to my nervous system when I heard you mention Mitten Squad. Goddamn it's nice to know that people haven't forgotten him. You quickly earned my respect, thank you
It's worth noting that the original idea, Dark Sector, was a lot more tactical and a lot more stealth focused. You took more damage, you dealt less damage, enemies were fewer, etc. and this was the case for a lot of the starting years of Warframe. But, as you can tell, that eventually changed
The glaive mechanics in particular were a lot more intentional. You were encouraged to bounce it off walls to hit enemies behind cover, and you had to dip it into an environmental fire/ice/electricity hazard before you could detonate it, instead of spamming detonations in normal gameplay. I just remembered that has nothing to do with this challenge but I thought it was neat.
I tried to make a forest camo Hildryn using the blood sigil with brown and green to mottle the camo look more. Not the prettiest, but that's not the goal. Though my "real ninja wear blue!" looks are definitely more successful.
I think the pacing is a little slow for this style of content. But not a bad first entry to what i assume will be an ocassional series? Can you beat warframe as a grineer butcher???
I think cutting out or shortening the "mistakes" would make a more engaging video. I know a lot of people stupidly criticize RUclipsrs for not showing their mistakes, but it helps a lot with attention and overall quality.
"Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder." This is a fun video for those not in the know, but those in the know recognize that even a USN Seal with full kit would struggle to keep pace in even low level combat without highly generous donations of kit and other materiel. And even with a library card to my armory (for the weapons that are safe for baseline human operation), they'd be better off serving in an advisory/training capacity. Oh, and they'd need to have NBOC gear in their kit.
This is such a neat idea. The play patterns actually reminded me a little bit of what it was like to play starting the game 10 years ago, especially going into zones that outscaled you.
You could do something like this but shake it up a little, as you could use SOME advanced gear if you trying to be a normal soldier in the warframe universe. For example you would have access to the Scimitar landing craft carpet bomb ability, which is what soldiers would have access to and its pretty terrible with a very long cooldown. The Xiphos turret is another potential option if you are okay with the idea of troops being able to call in deployable turrets. You should also have med kits, so the rare actual health restore items should be allowed to be used (they are rare though, so maybe only use 1 or 2 per mission max to avoid burning through them) but not the team restore pads as they just pulse health which is less realistic. You could also use the snipetron sniper rifle as an alternative weapon instead. Its the weakest sniper in the game and just looks fancy. Disabling the hud would also make it more challenging and remove the innate enemy radar, a soldier may not necessarily sense where enemies are at all times lol.
I know one good method where you could theoretically, kill a Warframe. Step one: Have a nuke strapped to your back and have it be armed with a dead man switch. Step two: Run straight towards them and hope they assume you're unarmed and aren't looking for death Step three: Activate Nuke and hope they're still within the blast radius. Any other method that doesn't include an actual nuke in some shape or way should be disregarded and ignored because there's no way in hell, as a regular soldier, are you beating a Warframe. It is literally the Omni-Man situation. Edit: I'm a dumbass, I thought he was talking about beating a warframe as a soldier, it's actually beating warframe in general, like a normal soldier.
@@luxuriouswatera9532 Yes, well it took a nuclear bomb to kill a tenno assault squad (the warframes not the actual tenno), so I imagine the same principle could be applied here as well, just catch them unsuspecting, then set it off, and hope it kills them, that's what parvos did and it worked out for him, granted he didn't use an actual nuke but he did use something close to one to vaporize both the site and the warframes in said site.
@@luxuriouswatera9532 It was revealed during the Deadlock protocol quest, Parvus Granum spoke about a warframe assault team coming in to destroy him and his lab in order to stop his specter project, turns out it was a trap laid down by Parvus himself, in which he sprung what I can only describe as a nuke, on the site, vaporizing it and the Warframes into nothing, it wasn't said what Warframes were sent, either originals, or maybe copies, no one knows, the only people that did know are all dead, and Parvus wasn't on site when it happened, he watched it from a far.
I love the no parkour playstyle too, one thing I've noticed is that every mission, and I mean every mission has a path where you do not need any form of superhuman parkour, so just jumps, sprint, slide and rolls are enough. Slides and Rolls are optional, but they look fucking cool.
For a bolter, the closest weapon is probably the Trumna. Fires explosive slugs, semi auto or full auto, has an alt fire big blast but that can easily be ignored. Comes from Demos stuff if you're looking to farm stuff, otherwise it's probably in the market still.
I love the gameplay videos! It’s fun watching you take your real life interests and lines of thinking and dropping it into a video game. Also the pacing is so reminiscent of early warframe when it wasn’t zoom across the map at Mach Jesus and delete everything lol. Fun watch!
Tbf, using the medpack deployable should be allowed for this since it isn't a power it's a tool that exists in universe and could be a feasible way to regain health
Imagine being a soldier and out of nowhere some fuckass shadow clones take out you and your entire unit in about 1.6 seconds while other squads are blind and deaf
Seeing that a grineer can shrug off half a magazine of an unmodified, unleveled braton, which is the standard kit a soldier would have (considering leveling is just the Warframes internal consciousness/OS adapting to the quirks of a weapon and mods are Tenno specific) the grineer would absolutely curbstomp modern military. We see them as chaff, killed in droves, but there’s a reason everyone in the origin system is afraid of them. They wield standard issue weapons that to a normal human are basically anti material. And the corpus with their shields, electronic warfare and Proxies are basically the „drone swarm tactics“ theory of future warfare made manifest. Robots relentlessly hunting you down, relaying intel to eachother so at any point if they see you every Moa, Osprey and Crewman knows where you are and will pursue attack.
@@MarcusVance there are multiple ways to get forma, but opening relics in void fissure missions is the easiest way I have found. It is also a reward from sorties and such
We’ll be like the old version of warframe, just without the armor stat, shields and powers. But with worse stamina and much worse stamina recharge. Also no mods, definitely not on ourselves anyway
I’ve basically been playing this way since 2014 because I never understood the special abilities or bothered to learn builds or get any other warframe aside from Excalibur
Why though? I can't begin to understand what you are doing... Why doing this when the main appeal of the game is the build variety, arsenal loadouts, warframe powerup and builds? I literally can't see what you see.
This is completly unrelated to the video but I'd like to see your take on a realistic mecha anime called "Obsolete" you can watch the whole thing for free on youtube. Basically aliens show up and trasmit a single message to earth, that they will trade valuables for sandstone. So people start leaving one ton piles of sandstone out and the aliens take the stone and in return give the humans these advanced mechs. They are slightly bigger than a human and lack any armour, but they enhance strength and are cheap to get. So terror groups start getting them, putting light armour on them and then use them for guerilla warfare against larger nations. After a couple weeks bigger nations start using them and equipping them with heavy armour and equipment. They basically become bipedal tanks and they look really unique because the armour is based off modern vehicle armor. It explores really well how they would be used (Even in civilian contexts, like as a forklift substitute.) and they attempt to use realistic military tactics. Some episodes aren't very good tactically though, like theres an episode where some south american mech pilots are being targeted by a sniper, but they don't react to the sniper like trained soldiers should. But still overall it is a very cool concept. I also suggest watching it in japanese with english subtitles, because the english voice acting is even worse than usual.
This is such a cool concept; I love theory videos, i watch a lot of powerful synergies and damage math loopholes at max level. Its amazing to see a minimalism theorycraft, seeing what can be done with so little. I think it could be cool to try a few missions where you play as the faction you are playing against! Trying to match health and shield/armor values of the enemies of the missions, while you select from that factions weapon choices. Also the opposie factions as well; could one grineer manage a defense against a bunch of corpus or vise versa.
Great video man! I sometimes play like this from time to time for nostalgia and a change of pace. Takes me back to the early days where you did have to rely on Stealth. I'm a huge fan of tactical shooters too so playing like this is so damn fun to me.
You did this all wrong. 1. Use MK1 Braton and Furax for your rifle and unarmed combat. Use the Leto as a sidearm. You should be able to buy the MK1 weapons in the marketplace. 2. Use the silence mods on both weapons. 3. You need some armor, so add a Dragon Key that reduces your shields. Add the one that lowers Health if added difficulty. 4. (Optional) Find a Warframe that uses grenades and add the Energy Dragon Key to limit its use.
I appreciate the thought, but 1. The AX-52 is the one that's closest to what we know. Braton could arguably use advanced scifi tech. 2. Good idea for a Special Forces soldier run, but not basic grunt. 3. Regenerating shields would give too much of an edge. I could crunch the numbers for boosting armor, though. 4. 4 is difficult because Vauban and Protea would still have some energy shields.
@@Tech-Priest2050 The average dagger's base damage in Warframe is bizarrely high compared to other weapons, for gameplay and balance reasons. So, while an irl soldier would have a knife, there's a rationale for not carrying a weapon that punches so far above its weight class.
This just reminded me of my time as a noob. Going full stealth with bow kunai and my skana. This is early me. Suffice to say, it took me hours to finish one mission. And that is me with no mods and with excal shields. Anything above 20 is deadly for noob me.
This is why there’s a bunch of defense quests for factions that is just “defend this dude” as much as I’d like to give credit to the normal soldiers of Warframe they really can’t do much when swarmed.
The fact that even Kahl’s missions-the closest you could presumably get to normal soldier gameplay-still feature a jetpack in most missions is very, very telling about the kind of game Warframe has become.
For those who don't know or can't remember, this is almost like what Warframe was in 2013 - 2014 (look for the old videos) Btw, It's kinda a challenge per se, un-modded frame and low damage weapons, good for a moment when bored. It was funny to see how many times you made a mistake like leaving equipped Diriga and Nidus regenerating all the health in less than a second 🤣 You forgot about the Lato, It could have been the perfect secondary for this test.
The answer is yes, as long as you keep their energy down. That can be done through heavy magnetic interference, which will drain and disable Warframe shields, along with drain their system of most powers. While they're stronger than humans, they're not supermen, and can be restrained both with hi-tech and standard metal. You may need to use more metal depending on the warframe(Like Atlas). Heavy magnetism also should attract any thrown equipment, such as melee weapons and shurikens, and arrows. If you have to pit the US or similar army against a single warframe, the optimal strategy would be an ambush within a target area, which would still end up with casualties ranging from hundreds to thousands, including heavily armored vehicles and aircraft(as the Archwing is extremely fast).
If you plan on using cover further in WF, theres a keybind you can assign to let you swap the camera from shoulder to shoulder. Good for peeking around corners Also lol at the comments misconstruing the title to think its about a soldier fighting a Warframe
This looks like a fun challenge! I'm gonna give it a go, myself :D Reminds me of a similar challenge a buddy and I did, where we could still mod, but we couldn't use any mods that increased any stats in the arsenal. So that leaves things like Aero Vantage, Motus Signal, Spring-Loaded Chamber, Tactical Reload, etc.
I showed up to war. I stood guard for an hour. There's a spore now growing on my arm. And all my buddies arms. _screams in agony as I melt into an acidic puddle having never known there was an enemy_
This really makes you appreciate just how much another level warframes are. Lvl 1 to 3 Greneer are pretty good stand in’s for basic infantry, an unmodded warframe cuts through them like butter. Fully modded both frame and kit, few sci-Fi forces can go toe to toe with them. Just to give an idea, Dax soldiers were no not grunts. Dad were masterfully crafted super soldiers on par with the likes of Halo Spartans and, arguably, Astartes. And they were no match for warframes. Teshin is an exception, he’s more a father figure for the Tenno. Maybe a Primarch from WH40K or Doom Slayer would give a warframe pause.
A pretty fun video, if a simple concept. Though a real soldier would definitely look at the enemy's superior equipment and start scavenging in a situation where they were the only one left against a superior force
I usually play Limbo, and since using my abilities in pubs is a social stigma at this point, I just use my weapons outside of Rift Walking. Kinda fills the "agent 47/bond/kingsman" fantasy
Ash with ceramic dagger, braton, or ax52 or grinlock. Nice play and robo companion or skill treated as modern camo. Most of that rather like special force style.
Huh, the title made me think it would be about "Who would win in a fight (and since we know that, is there a way a regular army could stand a chance against a warframe)?"
Did people forget the Drifter, an average dude who managed to outrun Namer, long enough to get his Void Powers and WARFAMES back, just in time to dethrone it’s leader. 😜
I really liked this video. Try it with a friend. See how far both of you can get. No revives each mission, but shooting while downed is ok. After you clear a few Corpus missions, you can equip something with a weak shield and a dragon key for the shield. Just so it blocks a small burst of damage with shield gating.
FYI there is a fashion frame build for Rhino that's the spitting image of Master Chief, i believe there's another that is a convincing warhammer type look. Sorry i can't help with what the actual helm / skin / armour pieces are but i'm not into RP just shootin stuff. I doubt it would be hard to research tho. Also i enjoyed your presentation of the video. My humour tends to be dry so it was a nice change to watch you calmly walk to certain doom, then panic and die. I'm not really sure what i expected. Not swapping to a pistol for the mobile defence was a interesting choice. Its not like the lex is overpowered with no mods. Anyway, its your vid and your rules and i watched till the end so gg.
Loved this video Warframe is sick. My only feedback is maybe get a different mic or try mixing your audio differently it sounds just a bit off. I'd love to see a collab or something with KendoGunShop talking about guns in Resident Evil. Do the custom Samurai Edge modifications that each of the S.T.A.R.S members had make sense iRL?
loki with a lowered amount of shields with one of the dragon keys might be a cool way to see how effective someone might be if they manage to steal/ buy some tech from the corpus :0
2 things you could use the vasto (if you got the old revolver skin would fit with the AK) it is not an all mighty weapon without mods Second maybe you could add rolling for defense maneuvers, it is something a soldier could do
I think ciphers should be okay, the average soldier doesn't know how to hack terminals, so they'd plug in a USB that connects the hackerman to the network or something, and boom they hack it
I'd say the furis and the lato are both weak enough to be "regular soldier" side arms personally Also, we can equate health orbs to first aid kits so you can keep pressure on the wound while waiting for a medic.
@@MarcusVanceFair point, tho the AX would still have a sizable edge due to its full-auto fire rate and its guaranteed crit headshots while ADS-ing. They fire the same caliber of bullets, but the AX fires them harder and faster.
Warframes are basically gods of combat. Kinda makes me feel bad for the tidal waves of gore I've turned my enemies into. Well except the infested. Its fun playing a godlike version of a halo flood mission.
This comment is meant for both "Can You Beat Warframe As A Regular Soldier" and "How Powerful Would Warframe Weapons Be In Real Life" because they seem like they should be taken together and I didn't feel like writing something separate out for each one. This is an interesting expirament and breakdown, but... Warframe takes place thousands of years in the future. A large portion of the Sol system has been at least partially terraformed, and based on the cooling tower method that you see on Venus and the fact that Mars is still a poisonous red, it was the slowest way I've heard of. The quickest methods that I've seen proposed would take over a thousand years each. There has been enough time for at least one population of Mars colonists to forget about space flight by the time the Orokin took over and created Warframes, specifically Inaros. There is genetic engineering advanced enough to completely alter the ecosystem of Earth, create completely unique ecosystems native to every terraformed celestial body in the Sol system, create a geneticly engineered slave race of clones that presumably has a system wide population in the billions, create at least four distinct subspecies of naturally reproducing humans, more than that if superficially similar populations are different, extend the biological life span of the Orokin quite a bit before space magic is involved, create space wizard ninjas with flesh as hard as 'sword steel', create a semisapient zombie infection that can infect machines as easily as flesh, and create a race of biological machines that blur the line between flesh and metal even more. Physics so advanced that it is indistinguishable from magic. That space magic now so compatible with their biology that even the most artificially dumb slave clones are capable of using it. Advanced alloys. Space magic alloys. Space alchemy. Immortality through space magic. Daughter casually mentions that she will easily live a thousand years without batting an eye, and that is without the traditional space magic method available to her. An unknown number of generations of beings with such long life spans. I think I remember quite a few nobility style generational paintings of the Entrati family not including the three that are living. All that to say, I doubt that there is a single pure blood present day human in Warframe without time travel nor is any of the armor worn by even the lowest level Graneer likely to be a material that we know about today. Given that the sheer amount of material that they wear on them, even armor like that made today would easily be able to shrug off a Kalashnikov or any other service rifle. There is no way that even the AX-52 is anything like what we have today. And so basically any weapon that a level 1 Graneer would carry would absolutely shred any 'normal soldier' in one hit. As for the AX-52 itself, brass casings are far from alien to Warframe. The base Graneer and base Tenno guns use brass right? They were built for cost in the case of the Graneer but mostly it was to fight the Sentients that are beings of metallic flesh that can adapt to any energy used against them, which is why ballistic weapon designs were pulled out of ancient museums and adapted to fit the technology and soldiers of the time. Cartridges are simply the most efficient way to store solid chemical propellants, but that doesn't mean that they have to use the same solid propellants that we do. We've only had black powder since the 9th century and it was already replaced by multiple options between 1850 and 1900, and we've only continued to develop more. In Warframe, they have fabricators, so it's possible that they have so many options by that point that each different cartridge type for each gun uses a different propellant optimized for that specific design. I would not be surprised if engineers took the future technology that was flooding into their timeline and just rechambered all of the guns that they had, resulting in the AX-52. It is completely normal for IRL weapons to be rechambered for experimental cartridges. And we can see that they are doing this sort of thing because one of the 1999 trailers show a unique late-20th century main battle tanks design that is made almost entirely with future technology. For all intents and purposes, I believe that the AX-52 is a Warframe era weapon made with as many Kalashnikov parts as possible. The superficial 'decorations' could even be the result of Void twisting rather than any aesthetic choice. The pretty curves in the design that are unusual for a Kalashnikov look like aesthetic design features but they are close enough to the curving trim that heavy Void exposure causes that I am suspicious. Void exposure could also make it more powerful, even if it was just using regular 20th century ammunition.
Also yes, I am MVSwords. Feel free to add me and shower me with gifts.
If you remember me from that times I contributed 1% damage on missions... I was trying out weapons for videos.
Honestly i wish more players approached some missions tactically , would love to see a squad under this ruleset after forma on the frames used. Love the video so far
Another cool thing you could try is running warframe missions with one regular warframe and the squad mates playing like this to simulate trying to be soldiers helping a warframe. Kind of like ODST
What weapon/warframe/color palette/skin do you want? Pick 1 and ill send it over when I get home.
Not sure if you still can, but you used to be able to have your last frame stolen via Zanuka Hunter to be forced into play "suit" an excalibur with no abilities and only 100 hp and shields. If still possible maybe if you want to redo the challenge you can make a new account and get your last frame stolen, and see if you can progress as "suit".
@@MarcusVance would you be open to using mods that don't do anything super magical like +ammo mod that would act like an extra bandolier on a soldier? Silence mods that functions as a silencer, or zoom mods? Or maybe allow veterancy as you progress like every planet you clear you can level up a reload speed mod by one level or sprint speed? Just some ideas to help progress because beating the game unmodded and powerless is going to be very difficult, not impossible just difficult. Afterall worst gun in the game stug was used and documented to the star chart alone.
Maybe if it starts to get tough, add hobbled key and slap on an armor mod.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Fuck no
Longer answer: *makes 20 minute video to say no*
@@MarcusVanceI read title without watching the video and posted a comment. I thought it was a question "can regular soldier beat warframe". Well anyway answer stays pretty much the same XD
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You just brought back a memory from when I started playing warframe. The game sucked so much for me until a guy asked me why I was using all 4 dragon keys. I was just trying to equip every tool I had and didn't bother to read what the things I equipped did. I must've played like 50 hours with those damn things on
Oof.
this is funny as hell
BRUH
Haha
Fuckin legend
You know you're a Warframe fan when you can identify every frame and weapon mentioned in the intro with audio only.
"rap tap tap"
Oh, Harrow! Didn't notice you connecting to squad!
What was the lightsaber one? Or is it just excals 4
@@SamNo27 Probably Excal 4.
Bro is playing The Adamatium Path
Platinum Path
Freaking bedrock path
Dude, it hit me like a shock to my nervous system when I heard you mention Mitten Squad. Goddamn it's nice to know that people haven't forgotten him. You quickly earned my respect, thank you
It's worth noting that the original idea, Dark Sector, was a lot more tactical and a lot more stealth focused. You took more damage, you dealt less damage, enemies were fewer, etc. and this was the case for a lot of the starting years of Warframe. But, as you can tell, that eventually changed
The glaive mechanics in particular were a lot more intentional. You were encouraged to bounce it off walls to hit enemies behind cover, and you had to dip it into an environmental fire/ice/electricity hazard before you could detonate it, instead of spamming detonations in normal gameplay.
I just remembered that has nothing to do with this challenge but I thought it was neat.
Dark Sector is so good, especially given its' age. I picked it up a few days ago and I have no regrets
There has been... *a little* power creep.
Cyto 9 when it releases will be very soldier like it seems.
Magic soldier like, but soldier like nonetheless
I love that the first part of the challenge is dripping your Nidus out. Fashionframe truly is the real game.
I tried to make a forest camo Hildryn using the blood sigil with brown and green to mottle the camo look more. Not the prettiest, but that's not the goal. Though my "real ninja wear blue!" looks are definitely more successful.
Finnish army soldier named Kullervo vs Cloned Flesh troops who took over earth.
That's funny
Completely new format for me. Let me know what you think!
I think the pacing is a little slow for this style of content.
But not a bad first entry to what i assume will be an ocassional series? Can you beat warframe as a grineer butcher???
I think cutting out or shortening the "mistakes" would make a more engaging video.
I know a lot of people stupidly criticize RUclipsrs for not showing their mistakes, but it helps a lot with attention and overall quality.
I find the pace more relaxing than the short form content while equally entertaining, it's definitely a nice compliment to the usual content!
The russian reload uses the right hand to reload. The west is the one giving the reach around to the bolt.
Is good
"Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder."
This is a fun video for those not in the know, but those in the know recognize that even a USN Seal with full kit would struggle to keep pace in even low level combat without highly generous donations of kit and other materiel. And even with a library card to my armory (for the weapons that are safe for baseline human operation), they'd be better off serving in an advisory/training capacity. Oh, and they'd need to have NBOC gear in their kit.
If the Geneva Suggestion means anything to you, the Ignis is your ticket to victory 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I mean these are the grineer, they're bulletproof so I think chemical warfare *is* necessary harm @@MauricioOsuna-et8et
@@MauricioOsuna-et8et Eh, not really my speed. You're talking to a Stahlta/Proboscis Cernos/Corinth Prime main
This is such a neat idea. The play patterns actually reminded me a little bit of what it was like to play starting the game 10 years ago, especially going into zones that outscaled you.
You could do something like this but shake it up a little, as you could use SOME advanced gear if you trying to be a normal soldier in the warframe universe.
For example you would have access to the Scimitar landing craft carpet bomb ability, which is what soldiers would have access to and its pretty terrible with a very long cooldown. The Xiphos turret is another potential option if you are okay with the idea of troops being able to call in deployable turrets. You should also have med kits, so the rare actual health restore items should be allowed to be used (they are rare though, so maybe only use 1 or 2 per mission max to avoid burning through them) but not the team restore pads as they just pulse health which is less realistic.
You could also use the snipetron sniper rifle as an alternative weapon instead. Its the weakest sniper in the game and just looks fancy. Disabling the hud would also make it more challenging and remove the innate enemy radar, a soldier may not necessarily sense where enemies are at all times lol.
I know one good method where you could theoretically, kill a Warframe.
Step one: Have a nuke strapped to your back and have it be armed with a dead man switch.
Step two: Run straight towards them and hope they assume you're unarmed and aren't looking for death
Step three: Activate Nuke and hope they're still within the blast radius.
Any other method that doesn't include an actual nuke in some shape or way should be disregarded and ignored because there's no way in hell, as a regular soldier, are you beating a Warframe. It is literally the Omni-Man situation.
Edit: I'm a dumbass, I thought he was talking about beating a warframe as a soldier, it's actually beating warframe in general, like a normal soldier.
They can tank worse things than nuke, atlas literlally punched and tank a planet destroying meteor
And rhino and revenant can go invincible
@@luxuriouswatera9532 Yes, well it took a nuclear bomb to kill a tenno assault squad (the warframes not the actual tenno), so I imagine the same principle could be applied here as well, just catch them unsuspecting, then set it off, and hope it kills them, that's what parvos did and it worked out for him, granted he didn't use an actual nuke but he did use something close to one to vaporize both the site and the warframes in said site.
@@ghosthippie8465 when did this happen? And what warframe that are being nuked?
@@luxuriouswatera9532The Orokin sent a squad of warframes to assassinate Parvos Granum. He killed them by nuking his lab.
@@luxuriouswatera9532 It was revealed during the Deadlock protocol quest, Parvus Granum spoke about a warframe assault team coming in to destroy him and his lab in order to stop his specter project, turns out it was a trap laid down by Parvus himself, in which he sprung what I can only describe as a nuke, on the site, vaporizing it and the Warframes into nothing, it wasn't said what Warframes were sent, either originals, or maybe copies, no one knows, the only people that did know are all dead, and Parvus wasn't on site when it happened, he watched it from a far.
No the answer is no, unless you're a Masochist.
you can probably beat earth but the game, No way.
@@Asriel_Dremr Not even earth. Unless you stealth it to the extreme.
Maybe not even then.
@@MarcusVance Lemme tell ya though, steel path... you ain't even getting past the first level.
Uhm Actually Kahl and brothers can checkmate
RIP mittensquad, you will be missed
I love the no parkour playstyle too, one thing I've noticed is that every mission, and I mean every mission has a path where you do not need any form of superhuman parkour, so just jumps, sprint, slide and rolls are enough. Slides and Rolls are optional, but they look fucking cool.
Trick question. You can't beat Warframe. It never ends, we'll never be free
Oh sht 👀
A Dax by any other name. I commend you soldier. Take your honors and rest.
This is a good way to experience what it's like to be the one you'd usually slaughter as a warframe.
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Short answer: no
Long answer: would you like to be buried in a soup can or a ring box?
For a bolter, the closest weapon is probably the Trumna. Fires explosive slugs, semi auto or full auto, has an alt fire big blast but that can easily be ignored. Comes from Demos stuff if you're looking to farm stuff, otherwise it's probably in the market still.
I was thinking Acceltra.
@@MarcusVance that would be pretty good too. Trumna is a bit slower but has more "oomph" and good sound and feel for it.
Trumna definitely looks like it’s part for Warhammer, but functionally the Acceltra is closer.
I love the gameplay videos! It’s fun watching you take your real life interests and lines of thinking and dropping it into a video game. Also the pacing is so reminiscent of early warframe when it wasn’t zoom across the map at Mach Jesus and delete everything lol. Fun watch!
Ngl the idea of cosplaying Tinkerbell-cosplaying Ranbo makes me giggle 😃
Tbf, using the medpack deployable should be allowed for this since it isn't a power it's a tool that exists in universe and could be a feasible way to regain health
Maybe! That also gave me the idea of making specters of those build, though I think they use powers...
@@MarcusVance another possibility is using orbiter support gear, like the turret
Great video loved the Mitten Squad reverence.
I've only been watching for a few minutes, but I'm really enjoying this longer style of video so far
Thanks! Hopefully that feeling continued
Atomic bomb vs coughing baby
Imagine being a soldier and out of nowhere some fuckass shadow clones take out you and your entire unit in about 1.6 seconds while other squads are blind and deaf
Seeing that a grineer can shrug off half a magazine of an unmodified, unleveled braton, which is the standard kit a soldier would have (considering leveling is just the Warframes internal consciousness/OS adapting to the quirks of a weapon and mods are Tenno specific) the grineer would absolutely curbstomp modern military. We see them as chaff, killed in droves, but there’s a reason everyone in the origin system is afraid of them. They wield standard issue weapons that to a normal human are basically anti material. And the corpus with their shields, electronic warfare and Proxies are basically the „drone swarm tactics“ theory of future warfare made manifest. Robots relentlessly hunting you down, relaying intel to eachother so at any point if they see you every Moa, Osprey and Crewman knows where you are and will pursue attack.
RIP MittenSquad, he would be proud of this run
you could try putting a forma on a warframe to de-level them. and armor is reducing a lot of the damage you are receiving
Oh yeah... for some dumb reason I was thinking I might need to farm/but stuff to get them at lower level. How did I forget forma?
@@MarcusVance there are multiple ways to get forma, but opening relics in void fissure missions is the easiest way I have found. It is also a reward from sorties and such
We’ll be like the old version of warframe, just without the armor stat, shields and powers. But with worse stamina and much worse stamina recharge. Also no mods, definitely not on ourselves anyway
Should be redone once Cyt comes out hahaha, this is pretty interesting and really throw more discussions in the thing
You can also remove your hud to make it more realistic
Oh. I kind of don't want to, though...
@MarcusVance lol fair but it looks soooo good.
Warframe 1999 might be like this
No. Unless you aforementioned warcrime it.
dont even try
Too late.
I’ve basically been playing this way since 2014 because I never understood the special abilities or bothered to learn builds or get any other warframe aside from Excalibur
that's pretty sad
You need help
@@Kim-ug4fy womp womp it’s fun
@@user-kv5lq9xm8c Bot spotted.
Why though? I can't begin to understand what you are doing... Why doing this when the main appeal of the game is the build variety, arsenal loadouts, warframe powerup and builds? I literally can't see what you see.
This is completly unrelated to the video but I'd like to see your take on a realistic mecha anime called "Obsolete" you can watch the whole thing for free on youtube. Basically aliens show up and trasmit a single message to earth, that they will trade valuables for sandstone. So people start leaving one ton piles of sandstone out and the aliens take the stone and in return give the humans these advanced mechs. They are slightly bigger than a human and lack any armour, but they enhance strength and are cheap to get. So terror groups start getting them, putting light armour on them and then use them for guerilla warfare against larger nations. After a couple weeks bigger nations start using them and equipping them with heavy armour and equipment. They basically become bipedal tanks and they look really unique because the armour is based off modern vehicle armor.
It explores really well how they would be used (Even in civilian contexts, like as a forklift substitute.) and they attempt to use realistic military tactics. Some episodes aren't very good tactically though, like theres an episode where some south american mech pilots are being targeted by a sniper, but they don't react to the sniper like trained soldiers should. But still overall it is a very cool concept.
I also suggest watching it in japanese with english subtitles, because the english voice acting is even worse than usual.
This is such a cool concept; I love theory videos, i watch a lot of powerful synergies and damage math loopholes at max level. Its amazing to see a minimalism theorycraft, seeing what can be done with so little.
I think it could be cool to try a few missions where you play as the faction you are playing against! Trying to match health and shield/armor values of the enemies of the missions, while you select from that factions weapon choices. Also the opposie factions as well; could one grineer manage a defense against a bunch of corpus or vise versa.
I love this new format! You’re super knowledgeable and great at sharing information. And warframe/ sci fi weapon breakdowns are a dream come true.
Great video man! I sometimes play like this from time to time for nostalgia and a change of pace. Takes me back to the early days where you did have to rely on Stealth. I'm a huge fan of tactical shooters too so playing like this is so damn fun to me.
The drifter in the new war is the closest thing to human fighting warframe enemies
Oooooooo new content type? Look forward to the watch
You did this all wrong.
1. Use MK1 Braton and Furax for your rifle and unarmed combat. Use the Leto as a sidearm. You should be able to buy the MK1 weapons in the marketplace.
2. Use the silence mods on both weapons.
3. You need some armor, so add a Dragon Key that reduces your shields. Add the one that lowers Health if added difficulty.
4. (Optional) Find a Warframe that uses grenades and add the Energy Dragon Key to limit its use.
I appreciate the thought, but
1. The AX-52 is the one that's closest to what we know. Braton could arguably use advanced scifi tech.
2. Good idea for a Special Forces soldier run, but not basic grunt.
3. Regenerating shields would give too much of an edge. I could crunch the numbers for boosting armor, though.
4. 4 is difficult because Vauban and Protea would still have some energy shields.
@@MarcusVanceFor melee maybe using a dagger type weapon would fit a normal soldier
@@Tech-Priest2050 The average dagger's base damage in Warframe is bizarrely high compared to other weapons, for gameplay and balance reasons. So, while an irl soldier would have a knife, there's a rationale for not carrying a weapon that punches so far above its weight class.
@@Unit-3D I Didn't know that thanks for the info!
Bro bringing up mitten just sent me down a nostalgia run I'm gonna be on for a while
This just reminded me of my time as a noob. Going full stealth with bow kunai and my skana.
This is early me.
Suffice to say, it took me hours to finish one mission. And that is me with no mods and with excal shields.
Anything above 20 is deadly for noob me.
A regular, human solider stepping in and fighting in the Warframe universe is like when Rambo stepped in the Mortal Kombat universe
Mentioning Mitten Squad shocked me, especially for a warframe video. R.I.P Paul, good to see people continuing his legacy
The regular soldier the second you go inside the literal sun 💀
Tactical warframe spec ops squad video! No shield , mk1 braton and lato full squad.
That'd be really cool. If only I had friends.
This is why there’s a bunch of defense quests for factions that is just “defend this dude” as much as I’d like to give credit to the normal soldiers of Warframe they really can’t do much when swarmed.
The fact that even Kahl’s missions-the closest you could presumably get to normal soldier gameplay-still feature a jetpack in most missions is very, very telling about the kind of game Warframe has become.
For those who don't know or can't remember, this is almost like what Warframe was in 2013 - 2014 (look for the old videos)
Btw, It's kinda a challenge per se, un-modded frame and low damage weapons, good for a moment when bored. It was funny to see how many times you made a mistake like leaving equipped Diriga and Nidus regenerating all the health in less than a second 🤣
You forgot about the Lato, It could have been the perfect secondary for this test.
The answer is yes, as long as you keep their energy down. That can be done through heavy magnetic interference, which will drain and disable Warframe shields, along with drain their system of most powers.
While they're stronger than humans, they're not supermen, and can be restrained both with hi-tech and standard metal. You may need to use more metal depending on the warframe(Like Atlas).
Heavy magnetism also should attract any thrown equipment, such as melee weapons and shurikens, and arrows.
If you have to pit the US or similar army against a single warframe, the optimal strategy would be an ambush within a target area, which would still end up with casualties ranging from hundreds to thousands, including heavily armored vehicles and aircraft(as the Archwing is extremely fast).
Inaros, Hildryn, Limbo, Nidus, Baruuk, Harrow, Voruna, Titania: *Laughs*
Status immunity go brrrr
Dante writes a scathing passage after wiping your platoon in 5 seconds.
@@bthsr7113 You can say those verses are dark.
During kahl mission this shown how even a bio engineer soldier pov look like in a warframe universe
If you plan on using cover further in WF, theres a keybind you can assign to let you swap the camera from shoulder to shoulder. Good for peeking around corners
Also lol at the comments misconstruing the title to think its about a soldier fighting a Warframe
Oh, Mittensquad. Gone far too soon. RIP you legend. You are now truly an ascended god of challenge runs.
When even the starter bow can launch an enemy back several meters and pin them to the wall the answer becomes obvious
If triburos did this with a stug, literally everything is possible xD
This looks like a fun challenge! I'm gonna give it a go, myself :D
Reminds me of a similar challenge a buddy and I did, where we could still mod, but we couldn't use any mods that increased any stats in the arsenal. So that leaves things like Aero Vantage, Motus Signal, Spring-Loaded Chamber, Tactical Reload, etc.
I showed up to war.
I stood guard for an hour.
There's a spore now growing on my arm.
And all my buddies arms.
_screams in agony as I melt into an acidic puddle having never known there was an enemy_
This really makes you appreciate just how much another level warframes are. Lvl 1 to 3 Greneer are pretty good stand in’s for basic infantry, an unmodded warframe cuts through them like butter. Fully modded both frame and kit, few sci-Fi forces can go toe to toe with them.
Just to give an idea, Dax soldiers were no not grunts. Dad were masterfully crafted super soldiers on par with the likes of Halo Spartans and, arguably, Astartes. And they were no match for warframes. Teshin is an exception, he’s more a father figure for the Tenno.
Maybe a Primarch from WH40K or Doom Slayer would give a warframe pause.
A pretty fun video, if a simple concept. Though a real soldier would definitely look at the enemy's superior equipment and start scavenging in a situation where they were the only one left against a superior force
tbh tho if u mod the AX-52 well u can get it to be stronger than a fulmin prime which is insane
Yeah, it's fun.
At this point I feel like he is going after me specifically by calling the very 74 looking AK a "47"
So basically he's a common soldier with main character energy
bro better pop that cyst before i do it for him
Nidus can have a little cyst, as a treat. It even matches his default color scheme!
I usually play Limbo, and since using my abilities in pubs is a social stigma at this point, I just use my weapons outside of Rift Walking. Kinda fills the "agent 47/bond/kingsman" fantasy
Ash with ceramic dagger, braton, or ax52 or grinlock. Nice play and robo companion or skill treated as modern camo. Most of that rather like special force style.
Huh, the title made me think it would be about "Who would win in a fight (and since we know that, is there a way a regular army could stand a chance against a warframe)?"
this is a worthy sucesor to mitten squad, i miss him too bro
"I did not leave because I wasn't a coward." Hell yeah!! XD
If you want to know how an enemy to the tenno feels, try conclave (I tortured myself with it because a friend wanted a mod)
Did people forget the Drifter, an average dude who managed to outrun Namer, long enough to get his Void Powers and WARFAMES back, just in time to dethrone it’s leader. 😜
After New War you have an energy shield and a void-powered pistol as the Drifter. Not exactly average soldier things.
If you're going on a mission and you don't want to fight go stealth "invisible " and there's three frames that cover that.
I really liked this video. Try it with a friend. See how far both of you can get. No revives each mission, but shooting while downed is ok. After you clear a few Corpus missions, you can equip something with a weak shield and a dragon key for the shield. Just so it blocks a small burst of damage with shield gating.
This would be neat
try to beat Warframe as the drifter
Banshee is the Warframe you want for this.
I leave a comment to show my support.
Next challenge run, fallout 4 as a guardsman
"Overpowered space ninja"
Me: Dies in 5 seconds max every time
FYI there is a fashion frame build for Rhino that's the spitting image of Master Chief, i believe there's another that is a convincing warhammer type look.
Sorry i can't help with what the actual helm / skin / armour pieces are but i'm not into RP just shootin stuff. I doubt it would be hard to research tho.
Also i enjoyed your presentation of the video. My humour tends to be dry so it was a nice change to watch you calmly walk to certain doom, then panic and die. I'm not really sure what i expected. Not swapping to a pistol for the mobile defence was a interesting choice. Its not like the lex is overpowered with no mods. Anyway, its your vid and your rules and i watched till the end so gg.
Glad to know you play warframe
This is unironically how I play Excalibur using the proto skin lol
My son loves Warframe, sharing this with him.
I thought the title of the video meant “could you kill Warframes as a human”
For the side arm you could have gone with the Lato, that that thing is so weak that the Kunai are always recommended over it for new Tenno
Loved this video Warframe is sick. My only feedback is maybe get a different mic or try mixing your audio differently it sounds just a bit off. I'd love to see a collab or something with KendoGunShop talking about guns in Resident Evil. Do the custom Samurai Edge modifications that each of the S.T.A.R.S members had make sense iRL?
Yeah, I don't have a dedicated mic.
loki with a lowered amount of shields with one of the dragon keys might be a cool way to see how effective someone might be if they manage to steal/ buy some tech from the corpus :0
that could also potentially go for some of the weapons as well, such as the plinx or some other weaker corpus weapons
I would love a video on if you can make a warframe with known theoretical science. Love your channel
This remind me of the old days when Trinity was queen because she could heal the squad.
I like the long form video from ya
2 things
you could use the vasto (if you got the old revolver skin would fit with the AK) it is not an all mighty weapon without mods
Second
maybe you could add rolling for defense maneuvers, it is something a soldier could do
I think ciphers should be okay, the average soldier doesn't know how to hack terminals, so they'd plug in a USB that connects the hackerman to the network or something, and boom they hack it
I'd say the furis and the lato are both weak enough to be "regular soldier" side arms personally
Also, we can equate health orbs to first aid kits so you can keep pressure on the wound while waiting for a medic.
if you wanted a sidearm and at some point you could get f2p real life gun skins
Lato base damage is the same as the AX-52. Wouldn't fit the sidearm vibe.
@@MarcusVanceFair point, tho the AX would still have a sizable edge due to its full-auto fire rate and its guaranteed crit headshots while ADS-ing. They fire the same caliber of bullets, but the AX fires them harder and faster.
@@MarcusVance you can only get so accurate in this weird ah game
Warframes are basically gods of combat. Kinda makes me feel bad for the tidal waves of gore I've turned my enemies into. Well except the infested. Its fun playing a godlike version of a halo flood mission.
This comment is meant for both "Can You Beat Warframe As A Regular Soldier" and "How Powerful Would Warframe Weapons Be In Real Life" because they seem like they should be taken together and I didn't feel like writing something separate out for each one.
This is an interesting expirament and breakdown, but...
Warframe takes place thousands of years in the future. A large portion of the Sol system has been at least partially terraformed, and based on the cooling tower method that you see on Venus and the fact that Mars is still a poisonous red, it was the slowest way I've heard of. The quickest methods that I've seen proposed would take over a thousand years each. There has been enough time for at least one population of Mars colonists to forget about space flight by the time the Orokin took over and created Warframes, specifically Inaros. There is genetic engineering advanced enough to completely alter the ecosystem of Earth, create completely unique ecosystems native to every terraformed celestial body in the Sol system, create a geneticly engineered slave race of clones that presumably has a system wide population in the billions, create at least four distinct subspecies of naturally reproducing humans, more than that if superficially similar populations are different, extend the biological life span of the Orokin quite a bit before space magic is involved, create space wizard ninjas with flesh as hard as 'sword steel', create a semisapient zombie infection that can infect machines as easily as flesh, and create a race of biological machines that blur the line between flesh and metal even more. Physics so advanced that it is indistinguishable from magic. That space magic now so compatible with their biology that even the most artificially dumb slave clones are capable of using it. Advanced alloys. Space magic alloys. Space alchemy. Immortality through space magic. Daughter casually mentions that she will easily live a thousand years without batting an eye, and that is without the traditional space magic method available to her. An unknown number of generations of beings with such long life spans. I think I remember quite a few nobility style generational paintings of the Entrati family not including the three that are living.
All that to say, I doubt that there is a single pure blood present day human in Warframe without time travel nor is any of the armor worn by even the lowest level Graneer likely to be a material that we know about today. Given that the sheer amount of material that they wear on them, even armor like that made today would easily be able to shrug off a Kalashnikov or any other service rifle. There is no way that even the AX-52 is anything like what we have today. And so basically any weapon that a level 1 Graneer would carry would absolutely shred any 'normal soldier' in one hit.
As for the AX-52 itself, brass casings are far from alien to Warframe. The base Graneer and base Tenno guns use brass right? They were built for cost in the case of the Graneer but mostly it was to fight the Sentients that are beings of metallic flesh that can adapt to any energy used against them, which is why ballistic weapon designs were pulled out of ancient museums and adapted to fit the technology and soldiers of the time. Cartridges are simply the most efficient way to store solid chemical propellants, but that doesn't mean that they have to use the same solid propellants that we do. We've only had black powder since the 9th century and it was already replaced by multiple options between 1850 and 1900, and we've only continued to develop more. In Warframe, they have fabricators, so it's possible that they have so many options by that point that each different cartridge type for each gun uses a different propellant optimized for that specific design. I would not be surprised if engineers took the future technology that was flooding into their timeline and just rechambered all of the guns that they had, resulting in the AX-52. It is completely normal for IRL weapons to be rechambered for experimental cartridges. And we can see that they are doing this sort of thing because one of the 1999 trailers show a unique late-20th century main battle tanks design that is made almost entirely with future technology. For all intents and purposes, I believe that the AX-52 is a Warframe era weapon made with as many Kalashnikov parts as possible. The superficial 'decorations' could even be the result of Void twisting rather than any aesthetic choice. The pretty curves in the design that are unusual for a Kalashnikov look like aesthetic design features but they are close enough to the curving trim that heavy Void exposure causes that I am suspicious. Void exposure could also make it more powerful, even if it was just using regular 20th century ammunition.