Deformation Space Crimson Wings VS Takara Starscream 3 0
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Honestly, I'd like to see more TF reviewers in general who DON'T feel obligated to show the whole transformation. I agree, I don't watch you for a tutorial, I wanna hear your thoughts. If that's easier to express by showing some transformation, obviously that's useful, but if not, I would not mind if you skipped it at all! :)
If I hadn't watched Bobby's transformation of FT Blurr, I wouldn't have snapped his headpiece. But that's on me.
I think if there are some particularly tricky bits then it's useful to have a guide, but if Bobby doesn't want to be a guide for that then maybe just leave out some steps or describe rather than show (with his own opinion on how well it worked and/or a suggestion of where one might go for coverage of that step).
Bobby's transformation bits are useful because if someone's going to break a figure during transformation ... well ... you know what to look out for ;-) (and that's my big fear with these things, so I really appreciate that Bobby is willing to put himself out there). #TeamFatFingers
To me, a transformation (both ways) is a mandatory for a review. I see no point in a review that doesn't show it :)
You "other" guys can simply skip the transformation part and problem solved
@@kohnfutner9637 lol it’s called opinions not betraying lol he constantly says if you like it you win. Sometimes I feel like you guys don’t watch his videos. Btw disliking any Zeta combiners is literally a national crime. I’m going to ask you to turn in your collector card sir.
Me tooo, i really enjoy skulls opinions not tutorial.
I'm super happy with my DS. Looks amazing. Color is perfect and he just looks more intimidating. I'll never understand how people get angry at you for saying how you feel. Fun video.
I think it speaks volumes of 3rd parties dedication and heart that they continuously compete so closely to the company that owns the license. Thinking about my collection I think the only Takara stuff I have are the autobots, but Im sure that will change over time. Especially with the recent FaaaannnnnssssTooooooyyyyyysssssssssssssn reveals. I think the Mirage VS was a tie too. Which is pretty fascinating being Transform Element. Another great vid BSF!!!
That one was more impressive, considering it was a brand new figure competing against a 5 year old version from a different company. To MMC(?) Sphinx defence there also was a release being more cartoon colored than the one Bobby used so a slight loss for TE if accuracy would tip the scales, but great for those that missed out on getting Sphinx or just dont like that particular company for some reason. But then again i dont know or particualry care if TE released a 2nd version of the same mold just like MMC did with their release.
I’d be curious to see a three way vs using Maketoys 2,0.
Solid video mate, thank you. Hate to suggest another time consuming video but I’d like to see the DS up against Maketoys
Sit Down Saturday let's goooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
On a serious note, I think you get a bad rap over transformations, but that's people who don't understand your channel. I appreciate the intelligent content and discussions you put out, and the transformations you do have always seemed to me to be a courtesy to the viewers. Keep it up, bro!
I think you’ve illustrated why opinion is so divided, both excel in their own ways and ultimately highlights that it’s down to individual preference. Good job
And gotta say, we APPRECIATE your time on your vids man!
RESPECT dude , you do you because you can! I'd rather have an objective opinion in these settings , this is a great review man keep it up!👊
Skullface has always shown me the level of frustration that "I" will definitely experience when transforming a figure. I am a Bobby "Big Hands" and I'm proud of it! On the topic of Swap Outs, I'm also there and happy with what I have. Feel good to be mostly complete :)
Look at the bright side, you have no problem splitting a lobster with your bare hands.
@bobbyskullface please do vs with make toys 🙏🏽 want to see another tie
I like both, and since I like both I keep both and win. Good video man! I enjoyed it.
Thanks for doing these, really appreciate all the hard work. Sorry to hear about butthurt commentors on YT taking it out on you, you definitely don't deserve it. Keep on keepin on!
I hope you never stop Bobby. I look forward to your vids every week, you are an amazing dude.
Thanks Bobby, DS hands down for me
Thanks for the informative comparison video.
I like the ds more. The waist swivel, the color scheme, the proportions, and the price definitely is better on the ds imo. While the ds lacks the ankle forward and back rocker and the takara has it, that joint is so loose that it only serves to destabilize the entire figure from being able to stand up on its own. Not going to completely bash on takara though, they have some nice paintwork and up until the release of the ds, I thought that mp 52 was the best g1 transformable starscream.
Would love to see a versus between the Maketoys and the DS! Battle of the waist swivel! ;)
Great job, dude. I hope you keep content coming here. Otherwise I might have to follow wherever you are. Right now, I don't do any other BS. I was probably too harsh on your TT review. I apologize. This was definitely a great vs. Cheers.
Fascinating.
As I said previously, I think a vs with Maketoys would be a conversation worth having.
I really thought the DS would clean up here. From afar, the transformation looks interesting and achieveable - is it perhaps something you have to experience in person? I'm surprised Takara got articulation - I think it has more joints you don't really need and lacks joints (or range) that you do.
I think I perhaps feel towards Maketoys the way you do toward FT. The inability to angle the shoulder vanes is a big omission in the MT and the DS achieves many little transformation miracles but I still find myself wanting to want the MT more.
It's not a great transformation, but it's no worse than a lot of FT and XTB transformations. At least what happens during the transformation is obvious and clear. It's not like you're moving a bunch of indistinct flaps and it's not intuitive what's even happening. And it's not a constant wrestling match like FT thomas. There are three major steps that are a little awkward and not very well thought out. One of which is getting the wing tips past the torso without scratching it, which BSF didn't even really struggle with.
Great vs Bobby. Yeah others may have done it, but yours was the main event we were waiting for. Please do the make toys vs.
I see those shoulders and arm gainz Bobby...GET IT!!!
Interesting video! Always like the verses, thanks for the time and effort Bobby!
Great video, I'll see you at TF-Con!
I've been looking at these two for a while now. I haven't pulled the trigger on either of them but I think I'm going to get the Takara. I really like the proportions of the DS but I can't get past 3rd party companies breaking the cockpit sculpt just for the sake of the waist swivel. The DS almost executes it perfectly but that tiny little break and the reportedly troublesome transformation makes me lean more toward the Takara. Great comparison as always, keep up the good work!
Mr. Skullface fantastic honest review as always.
Can't wait for tfcon! The last MD one was my first TF convention and I had a blast. Stopped by your booth and said something about how your voice sounds different and if you add an effect in the videos. That shit was awkward as hell, I'll probably say something less doofy next time lol
Speaking of tfcon, the DS piece is on my shopping list there. I enjoy a complicated transformation and if it really is the same people behind the TE figures, I'm in. Their Optimus Prime is one of my favorite figures of all time. They somehow managed to make a figure that exceeded at every single thing I put high value in when it comes to transforming robots.
Would love the DS Vs MT! Big fan of this review man
Always informative. I’d like to see DS vs MT please and thank you.
I'd like to see the Maketoys Vs with DS. Also, I only watch transformations by reviewers if I'm struggling with the figure and I need a tutorial. To be fair, I use EMGO's JTI's for that. Otherwise, I usually skip the transformations in reviews. I skip slowly through yours just in case you've hidden a skit in there somewhere.
Same, that usually the part I either 2x speed or skip entirely. Really wish 3P started making more affordable non transforming hyper articulated figures like Flame Toys. That way we can skip this whole part.
@@YakBat The problem with Flame toys is do you want to pay 500 USD for a figure that is highly articulated and detailed but no transformation, OR pay 300$ for a figure that do transform, not much less articulated but way less detailed but hidden among a collection of dozen or more robots?
By that i can save 200$ and spend it on another figure i enjoy and transform if i would ever wish than have a very detailed and articulated statue. Flame toys figures are great looking, but most of the time they just price themselves out for me to even bother trying one out.
(The numbers are taken out of my own ass and does NOT reflect any real life priced robot figures. Any similarities is purely coincidental and merely used to prove a point.)
@@zilvertron hence why I said affordable. Currently Flame Toys has no real competition and as they are official they need to be that expensive to be profitable. DLX is not in the same league in my opinion not same market. The only 3P company that comes close by a 100 miles is that Banana Force. Improve on that, for about the same price and 3P can have a whole new avenue of revenue.
Like vs and agree with the DS. Bobby's the man. Honest reviews
There are plenty of other channels if people are looking for transformation guides. I come here for your opinion and commentary. Besides I've seen figures limp off after you transforming them. You put out some great content for collectors.
Please do the Maketoys VS video. I'd love to see it, mainly because I'm seriously thinking about going with the Maketoys for my Seekers.
That was a fun watch very well done thank you Bobby.
Great work putting this together! Very useful for people who want to understand their purchasing choices for their collection!
Dude we're here to hear your thoughts man - I may not agree with you but I will defend to the death your right to say it man!
I was a fan of badcube, i like this transformation, what hurts it is the tolerance, but just the sheer presence of the ds does it for me. Great vid! I've never like the Maketoys , so I'm good no need for the vid..lol
Great vs. picking your poison was a great analogy.
You respond to EVERY comment. It's really telling on your need for everyone to think you are cool and explain everything people dont like. Viewers don't want to hear 10 minutes about a couple or even one hundred comments. It's a waste of time to address haters. It shows you feel like you have to explain away everything
I dont need you to do a vs with all 3. But if you do one, I'll watch it and enjoy it.
Sir skulface are you gonna share your thoughts on Star Wars visions?
Great comparison. You’re the best at these! 🙂
Really interesting, and agree with the final point, TT was never an option for me for the price, and the lowest point of the DS isnt a deal breaker as I won't transform it often.
Great comparison, was really looking forward to this one!
To me the takara color is more to his movie colors which are darker. Like you said it goes to what you need it to do. I went takara as the transformation is easier
Excellent stuff. A MakeToys comparison to these two would be great.
Your light above you finally came back on little bit after 4 minutes
I think doing a versus of the make toys and DS would be interesting but I would say are sure the thumbnail and title give away that its a new video because sometime I think people don't click on videos thinking that they've already watched it because they do look the same in the thumbnail
that light in the background turning on and off is hilarious.
You done good with this one, Bobby. I really do appreciate your level of analysis on this. The two figures are so close, it comes down to very specific criteria to judge between them.
I don't own any Maketoys figs and their Seekers look ugly to me, so men.
I do love that Gerwalk halfway mode that TT is able to pull off from the toon.
The wife and kids test are the best! Great vid bobby
Thank you for this. Can you please compare it to the MakeToys?
"BOBBY-IMA TAKE MY TFS HOME IF YOU DONT STOP LEAVING ME NEGATIVE COMMENTS-FACE"
So by extrapolating your last Starscream versus video, I assume it would place the Maketoys at the bottom of the pile by point count? I have all three now but I do really love that Maketoys Screamer. Wish they'd finish their Coneheads.
I'm sticking with MakeToys as well. I feel no need to switch up.
I think I might have switched if the DS were the same height as MT. I do think it beats out MT by a fair bit, but being that tall... I just wouldn't be able to reconcile that. $ saved.
Holy shit! Jaina sounds so grown up. Time flies faster than seekers.
Well, that kind of sounds patronizing, which I didn't mean. Jaina must be pretty near adulthood so it makes sense. Just feeling old, I guess.
I really enjoy these VS videos, thank you.
Oh yes to a Maketoys comparison. I would watch that
It's funny watching people get defensive about going for MP52 or DS, because I own and like both.
I think most people would agree with me when I say, MP-52 is a great figure, however, it is inexcusable for it to cost as much as it does, with its complex transformation, to NOT have a waste swivel. A waste swivel should be a given at this point with modern figures. And before you make the excuse that Starscream never swiveled his waste in the cartoon, has Starscream ever flipped anyone off? Didn't think so, dumb argument to defend the indefensible.
I was in for MP-52 Skywarp and Thundercracker, not anymore. So when DS makes a Thundercracker and Skywarp, I am buying them for my Seekers.
I agree. I watch for ur opinions. I often just skate to final thoughts. Our opinions are mostly similar. Even when not I know ur final thoughts are uncut & honest. The only time I questioned tht was ur take on the Bumblebee movie. I sensed tht u wanted it to fail & was unfair to it. At the end of the day I find ur bottom line reliable & know it's truthful
Great commentary Bobby
I've been trying to decide between the MakeToys and the DS, so I would love to see a comparison! Thanks, always enjoy your videos!
Great video Bobby! I have the takara, but i think I gotta buy the DS now too!
The difference in colour between the two simply comes down to the animation cell shading being made up of two colour shades which either shows off lighter highlights or darker shadows on the character.
I believe Takara colour sampled what I believe was meant to be the cell shadow on the lighter base, however they saw this darker colour as the main body colour and the use of the lighter shade being used to simply show off the lighter highlights on the said darker base colour.
I think most viewers of the animation saw it in the opposite way to Takara with the main body colour being the light base and it being the shadows showed on the base colour. Deformation Space took this view as did Maketoys.
It comes down to whether you saw the two tone cartoon animation of star scream either showing the ‘highlights’ on him or the ‘shadows’.
Also depends on where your Starscream source is. In the early 3 part More than meets the eye, Starscream was seen as more grayish than white with a white stripe on his wings next to the red one showing it was NO animation error, but later as the series progressed he was more often colored white making that white stripe on his wing less visible and make less sense until season 3, were we can clearly see the only time he was gray again was when he was supposed to be standing in shadows.
On the other hand it can also be explained by the licensing from Boeing being more in line with the original coloring of the F-15. I dont really know since since last time i saw that particular jet it was a quarter a mile away and on a sunny day parked next to a runway
@@zilvertron I hadn’t considered it matching the original real world colour of his jet mode, that could have been a consideration I guess, its just because Takara are on the tip of making everything now purely screen cell cartoon / 86 movie accurate, that I think it’s cartoon colour referenced.
Personally I like the colour in jet mode (perhaps because it is more real world) a lot more than in his robot mode, for me personally his base colour has to contrast more to mp36 Megatron’s grey, and this then also allows his characters darker tone face colour to stand out more.
They based the colours on the original animation model and Starscream is darker on that (as he is in the early episodes). As the series went on he was coloured lighter, which is shy so many remember him that way, but strictly speaking the Takara is more 'accurate' to the model sheet.
"I'm not going to get either, either." Cool sentence with the same word twice in a row, but pronounced differently.
someone played your lights at the back
Okay, its probably time to change that bulb..
Yeah, sorry man - I think I'd love to see the Maketoys have a run here. My vote is for yes. DO IT. Great review as usual!
I might head down to TFCon Bmore. Never been to one but started my 3P Masterpiece collection recently. Are they gonna gouge the prices on everything?
I do have to point out, albeit a little late, but the ds front kick skirt peice does come all the way up, it is a little sketchy but loosens up allowing for the full kick forward
A great honest review as always, thanks Bobby.
Definitely my favourite VS you've done. Thanks for this, and all you do for the community!
I prefer the takara starscream, just my opinion though.
A good VS, but there was one thing I was hoping to see, and that was about the head proportions. I know you thought the Maketoys' was too small, and the Takaras' was too big. What did you think of the D.S.' in comparison?
I look forward for Deformation Space to get to work on their versions of G1 Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron.
Rumor is that DS is another name for Transform Element, who already released an MP Prime, TE-01.
@@Ianorig That reminds me of ThreeA, now known as ThreeZero.
This is like in the Oscars, when a movie win only some tecnical categories but nobody cares about them. Accesories and gimmicks categories is like the same case here.
I don't buy a figure for those categories, but that's me.
Sadly I missed first batch of DS, but waiting for the second one.
MakeToys's ultimate sin : They made a MP seeker mold that was fun to transform .
... and also attached the weapons to the shoulders, where they aught to be connected according to the cartoon ...
Bobby and The Light!!!
Do the compare video of the make toys please love to hear your opinions
I thought Takara was a bit dark at first, but......looking at the toon, it's damn close. I think we got Berenstain Beared into thinking Starscream is a very light gray.
EXACTLY....Bobby.
I so want the Makes Toys vs DS. I want to see If Bobby will actually decide to change over 😁
Yes please for a comparison video of MakeToys vs Deformation Space!
Maketoys comparison, you cowards!
(Thank you for putting in the work for us.)
I have all three, MT, Takara, and DS. Maketoys is the only one I'll keep all three Seekers for. Selling my Takara, and couldn't care less about my DS. I really think Maketoys destroys all of them STILL, especially after I discovered how to line up the cockpit in robot mode with the piece of cockpit on the waist in order to get that fantastic waist swivel. Yeah, it breaks up the tiniest piece of cockpit, but that's all. Maketoys looks better in plane mode for SURE, but the bright, vivid paint job on all three seekers and the sculpt on the Maketoys is the winner for me.
I would like to see a MakeToys vs Deformation Space video because I have both on my shelf and cannot decide between them.
DS gets a point for me cause it comes in the box in robot mode and i won't have to transform it even once 😅
This is exactly why I never picked up the official MP-44
Yeah definitely do Maketoys....although I'm not sure how well it'll hold up to these later models.
nice compare vid, i appreciate the hard work that goes into making these things and look forward to hearing your thoughts on the hobby in general so keep up the good work. oh yeah and Diaclone, sure im up for more of that
Seems like an accurate summation to me. Great video and a 3-way with Maketoys would be cool.
for me, other than the sqeaky trasformation that I'm gonna lube up, ds is a no contest win for me by both the design and no faux cockpit
Been waiting for this
DS can do the side splits, just that those front hip flaps are f*cking ridiculously tight!
Pls do the comparison video. Let our wallets watch with terror lol
In the words of Emperor Palpatine “DO IT”
I myself prefer DS simply because it has a better presence on my shelf in bot mode compared to Maketoys. I will keep my Maketoys in plane and probably never ( maybe once ) transform the DS. I just find it interesting that they tie out even when Takara’s is just about double the price ( I know you accounted for it ).
Great review!
How many Sit Down Saturdays does it take to change a light bulb???
Great video…….change that bulb!
I have them both. DS is more stable I am sticking it in jet mode. TT's is in scale and has that presence over DS - it will be posed in robot mode with Megatron. I love it.
Maketoys vs DS vs Takara? Are we going for a Number of the Beast 3 Way Tie?!?!
Great work. Great to have options!