Record Revirginizer Record Cleaning System
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Watch Analogplanet.com editor Michael Fremer try the safe alternative to wood glue for "spread and peel" record cleaning using the "Record Revirginizer" system from Australia invented by Cary Stoddard. At first it doesn't go smoothly, but you'll be both informed and amused, though the inventor might not be!. Please read the full review on analogplanet.com. I had some fun with this to make it entertaining but it is a serious product that works well if you are very careful how you use it.
While I watched this, I did my very first wood glue peel on.a record that had already been through my vacuum cleaning machine, and still sounded like it had damage. A big repetitive tick/pop. The wood glue took away 90% of what the vacuum machine left behind. Night and day difference! Plus, there is more detail, clarity, breath, etc. I am now convinced of this method, as long as you are very careful to get it all off. I may need to pick up some of the stuff used in this video. Thanks!! This may be a great tool to have for older, dirtier records, at least until I can afford an ultrasonic machine.
Through the "magic of television", I was able to skip through the boring areas and will not be using this product. I will, however, be trying wood glue in the future. Thanks for the tip.
And you don't need tabs
You don't have to use your nails to scrape off any remnants that are left.....you simply take some of the stuff you just peeled off and dab it on the remnants and they stick to it....Breathtakingly simple and effective.
Nah, let your needle pick it up.
I bought some at my local Hi Fi shop in Australia, I only use 15ml which works best for me. Does get easier after a few times but the first or second time is a bit messy. Keep up the nice videos!
Reminds me of the first time my future wife and I made out. Lots of sticky fingers and residue around the edges. But, in the end, it was all worthwhile. Love that revirginized vinyl!!!
"As usual you should ALWAYS read the instructions first." Very entertaining vid, you crack me up. I've been there a million times feeling crunchy for getting ahead of myself.
A similar product has been around for over 40 years. The stuff I used had a sponge applicator on the bottle. The problem I found was that after playing a treated record, there would be fine residue on the stylus tip.
All of that time and no audio sample to see if the product actually works? What?....
A record has to look good... isn't it, Michael Fremer?
There´s a reason for that; I spent 1,5 h cleaning records with it without any improvement!! Instead some records we´re destroyed by scratches from the cleaning. This is the worst crap I ever bought!
Same with almost all record cleaning videos on yt its almost as if none of it works 🤔😁
The most expensive wood glue you'll find
I just use a belt sander, gets records VERY clean!!!
Yeah, did that too. Then buffed it. Even got rid of this annoying spiral. It's now as smooth as a babies bottom. You can mirror yourself in it.
I hate those spiral things
Just started to listen to records again just got a new record player for Christmas I Collected years ago when I pulled them out I saw they were damaged some one put them near a heat source at my old house which Im assuming was our wood stove because they were melted, my wife replaced them all , But so happy all my really good records were stored elsewhere Original Woodstock ect...Just subscribed Thanks for sharing
Thanks Michael, I've actually tried the Vinyl Revirgizer, (fluid, not complete kit) and works just fine especially on old, absolutely filthy 45s from the 50s and 60s, that I paid pennies for. Not sure that I'd be buying ablums in the kind of condition to need such a product, pretty happy with my Clearaudio vacum machine. I've tried the PVA (wood glue) too again on old 45s and that too works absolutely fine and is about 10% of the cost, however the PVA glue can take several days to dry out completely and will damage labels if you are careless enough to get glue on the label. The Revirginizer is a good product, but the records really do need a clean with a decent fluid and vacuming dry, so great for absolutely filthy records but not so much for general second hand finds.
Hi Michael--It's good to see you make the mistakes at first and make the corrections so we know how not to do it!
Keep up the good work--enjoy your site!
Mike! You are too funny! LMAO Thx!
I've been reading your articles for years. Never seen your humor in your writings though? But, informative none the less.
Great demo! A bit clumsy but very real...I felt I was doing it myself. You did a much better job than the typical RUclipsr out there because you were being totally honest. I may actually buy this product. Thanks.
Wish you could do a pre and post treatment play demo on the records to see the improvement.
Tee shirt tucked into shorts, you're way ahead of the rest of us on the fashion curve Mikey.
Hi Mike. I just wanted to let you know that I loved the movie Animal Olympics when I was a kid. It took me to an awesome place. Thanks for the movie and thanks for your vinyl video’s.
Very revealing. I'm not exactly an expert at completely cleaning vinyl, but from what I've watched on RUclips, and a friend of mine I clean a record in the following way. I mostly clean my records using 2 cups of distilled water, mild dish-washing liquid - 1 tablespoon, a teaspoon, or two of isopropyl alcohol, 91%, a couple drops of "rinse aid" liquid, then mix in a spray bottle. For cleaning and wiping I use towels, micro fibre cloth, and a bit of elbow grease. Anyhow, when that cleaning process is over, I think it is a good thing to rinse the record again with water, but preferably distilled water again!
Then let vinyl record dry. Then wipe surface of record with an anti-static brush; I use Audio Technica brand. Anyhow, now that is the method I practice on cleaning a record. If not actually very dirty, maybe just clean with distilled water, and wiping with an anti-static brush is what is required.
Also, I'm a music fan first, a bit of an audiophile second; and that English researcher, as you've pointed out has it mostly wrong, and not accurate. People who collect records are not actually very withdrawn, introverted folk, Micheal. Anyway, Although a bit questionable concerning the pure condition of a record after this process of cleaning using this liquid chemical that dries, I think this demonstration of cleaning records is helpful. If not completely safe regarding the after-effects for this method, only my opinion; it is also a different way of record-cleaning, anyway.
The conclusion would be nice. I don't really want to go through other videos just to find out the result. As you said in the video " I've got a life to live..."
I only heard about this stuff last night at a barbecue here in Australia (I obviously need to get out more and get a life!)..It looks like a great idea, maybe it could be adapted to be used in a spray bottle (Not an aerosol, I hasten to add since I'm all for trying to be environmentally friendly)..I might try it on my Dudley Moore vinyl before moving onto the Miles and Bird.
Wow... very authentic aussi accent you have there. Not many can master it that well.
Bought similar formula over 30 years ago. You got an applicator and jig to avoid spillage. You removed the dried PVC by peeling it off. Incidentally use masking tape to remove any slivers around the label and dead wax. Trouble is that on playing the cleaned record, your stylus tip would pick up a lot of film residue in the form of a fine PVC dust. Abandoned using it because of this problem. Think record collecting is a perfectly reasonable and rewarding hobby.
Great demo, funny too, so thanks for that; I've ordered some of the magic juice.
I really enjoy your videos and humor, thanks!
I'm very happy with my Nitty Gritty thank you. By the way, the tank burst on it one day and destroyed the particle board cabinet. Wally Woodshop went down to Home Depot and picked up some red oak and built a far nicer cabinet, all grain-matched and everything, then off to the acrylic sheet goods dealer and had them make a dust cover for it that matches that of my Sota Sapphire. No Scmoo Goo for my warblies.
What a long process I’ll stick to my formula and micro cloth works well and quick too. Thank you for your info on this.
I use 15mls too. I apply it while on a turntable that is spinning. You just have to be careful.
You do not need specific tabs. Just a bit of paper is quite OK.
To remove it I just peel a bit back and cut from outside to centre with scissors. Then peel in line with the grooves
Because of the time and expense, I pretty much only do this for second hand records
I like your videos and you are good fun.i understand why you didn't do a comparison play because I found an Australian guy who used this stuff and then played it.it did look great but sounded terrible.it had lost some clicks and pops but was horribly distorted and actually worse than before.the worst thing was that he cleaned on an actual turntable.good luck with that cobber.
Thanks for experimenting with this Michael. The videos I've watched with wood glue seem to show an easier separation of the dried liquid. A big no from me.
24:52 - Nice interpretation of "I´ve seen all good people"... haha :) Nice video. I want to buy this renewal thing. Thanks!
I often use Elmer's white School Glue. It's cheap and easy to use. From what I saw in the video there is almost no difference between how these systems work.
I am more curious about the Wilson speakers behind him....
What about before and after?? You have to show us the result!
i would not be watching it if someone else was pushing the product i like your humor
From experience after cleaning it does not matter what substance you use glue or anything else that dries on the record make sure that nothing else is left it hurts the needle and even breaks it
i like the guy selling the junk he's a good man
who ever he is
Appreciate the unedited nature of the review but the length is a bit painful.
Michael, I am extremely happy using the Gem Dandy record cleaner design be George Merrill.
I'm sure you are familiar with it but I don't see that you have reviewed it.
I hope you find the time to do a review. It is a reasonably priced and very effective record cleaner.
Appreciate your work!! Thank you
How did the records sound? Did this method improve things? Thank you for making a tedious subject entertaining.
Great idea , I tried it with super glue , couldn't put it down . I'm 67 now , I said
goodbye to vinyl when CD's took off , I put all my LP's on CD's and sold
my turntable with it's heavy belt drive platter and SME tone arm , bla , bla, bla.
No more snap crackle and pop , reminds me of when I first had my ears de waxed.
If you have an emotional attachment to vinyl and want to stick to it at any
cost , fine , viva la free will . It can be a lot of fun cooking on a camp fire but it
makes you appreciate modern facilities too .
Is digital perfect , course not . For me though , it helped me to start listening to
the music more than the hardware . Lets see what the next generation has in store .
Maybe we'll all switch to that .
Wood glue seems more user-friendly to be honest.
Absolutely it is.
It is and, from what I can see, the results are the same, but I had fewer problems than Michael had. However, that little stand is nice so you can do both sides at the same time. Otherwise, it looks like the same process.
That's wood glue as well , it's just clear wood glue , fast drying , rebranded ! A way to make some extra money !
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"Proprietary Mixture" are the magic words for a cash grab.
I appreciate you introducing us to new products out there. But I'll stick with my mild dish soap, luke warm water, and chamois towels.
I use Gorilla wood glue and apply it by hand and I have never gotten any on the label, have rarely had problems removing the dried glue (use plenty of glue to avoid removal problems) and it can in fact be used on records which are either very dirty or only mildly dusty. And a most important factor is that wood glue is by comparison very affordable. Wood glue has no properties which are dangerous to the vinyl and also dries within 2 to 6 hours depending how much glue you apply.
I am curious with all the work you put into this demo, how did the records play. I just started buying vinyl again and there are too many RUclips videos on how to clean records. Which one should i use. I really don’t like the used vinyls so I don’t buy them so much.
You really ace ed that Aussie accent.
That David Crosby album is one of the great stoner albums of all time.
you are supposed to use the lifted dry glue screw it up to then rub the excess off the record, almost like a rubber.
In the UK Wood Glue (PVC) Is about £3 for 5 Liters, This stuff that Is £30 to £40 for that little Bottle. Both You have to wait for hours to dry. I'll stick with my Spin Clean. In the UK We call the platter a Lazy Susan. The Puck In the Middle Is Upside Down Lol. I play mine through a SweetVinyl SugarCube SC-1 and clicks and Pops Disappear no matter how bad the record Is.
One thing you did wrong: Putting it into the original inner sleeve. Better you buy new one and if the innersleeve contains lyrics, put it in the outersleeve too.
i can't believe you have
wilson speakers you got a great deal on them ?
there that good ?
Wasn`t this or a similar product already on the market decades ago called DISCO-Film?
« I won’t use wood glue, instead, I’m using this very expensive bottle of… transparent wood glue»
Hilarious video :D First reaction: no way I'm going to try this method. Second reaction: hmmmm, why not! *thumbs up*
0:36 There it is. I was not disappointed.
Most of the potential chemistry that would cause you to "have a good time" would also mess up the vinyl.
Hello, what speaker behind you? (i know it's from wilson audio) what model is it?!
Haha you got me with the priceless record, also ace speaker game!
Vinyl collectors are introverts?!! I have never met one, in fact a demographic of vinyl collectors that has helped keep the vinyl community strong is the DJ, no introverts there lol
He should've demo'ed this product on the Stones' "Sticky Fingers".
@22:58 ouch, there goes that label, at least it looked like a piece of the label was pulled off.
I just wet a cloth very lightly and then take the cloth and wipe it on the vinyl it ll get a little wet. But once it dries presto the record now sounds better!
What it does (or suppose to do) is stick ALL the particles that's ground into to the grooves by the styli to the garden glue, and make it like new again (unless you have scratches)! I would only use it on old records that sound like "rain on an umbrella" due to ground in particles, not regular record's that need regular cleaning! And certainly not on prize or grail records!
Shake before use, only use half a cup per side,use at least 4 - 6 paper tabs .
Excellent sound in your video, how do you manage this? And you had camera operator. Well done with the video.
It got my record really clean except for these fingerprints... hmmmm... oh these are mine from holding the darn record while I was peeling the blasted glue. Gotta be kidding me. Thanks for the demonstration just in case someone thinks records can be ‘revirginized’ wtf.
Anolog Planet, um for 1 side of the record 10mm can be sufficient.
Message to all; when you revirginizer your record, make sure before you put it back in it's plastic pocket, use a litely damp cloth to wipe inside, let dry and then return the revirg'd record to it's pocket
or
If you have lots of money, buy new plastic pockets and introduce your revirg'd record to it's new pocket
Have a local audiophile shop clean them with ultrasonic or buy a vacuum system.
I had similar results when I tried this method and moved on to something else. I am way too clumsy to do a good job with it and would end up damaging some records!
I wonder if you can get the same result with one of those peel off masks they have in cosmetics stores these days. I have some records I don't care about, might as well try. At least it dries faster :)
Michael can you possibly do a video on warped records and is it worth trying to flatten them, regards Mike
That would be great. Ordered an original european U2 Zooropa from discogs. Wow was it insanely warped. I figured what the hell put it in the over between two glass panes. Now its flat and sounds great.
I want your U2 Zooropa what do you want for it
I've heard of using glass. my method, I wont go into detail didn't work very well. I will most certainly try the glass theory.
What's so great about The London Symphony Orchestra - España?
was that intentional at 1:30 ? ...because it was hysterical... detailed explanation about needing to cut some tabs and the magic of television and so on and so forth, then returning with "OK, I've cut 2 tabs" a task that probably took about a quarter the time of the explanation ( just having a bit of fun. love your work)
You got to put a thicker film to prevent residual...Wood glue thought me that.
Hahaha😎👍🏽keep it jazzy.
What was the consensus? Were your records thoroughly cleaned?
Do you need to be concerned about dropping an expensive stylus onto that? Any further cleaning necessary prior to playing it?
No. Once you've removed all the revirginizer your good to go.
So how do the records sound now
Ditto... is there any difference?
Will it remove blackheads?
Sterling Pilgrim I wouldn’t recommend 😅
These record cleaning processes just seem like torture to me, as weighed against the results, or lack thereof. I'm with you regarding wood glue (insanity), but I'm not convinced that there are any ideal solutions. I'd rather be listening to records that are maybe moderately clean with my Discwasher, fluid, and carbon fiber brush. I just can't see going crazy on this.
I'd think I would use it on really dirty dirty records, where the dust was "ground in" the grooves over time! I would use a different method for everything else!
How does this compare when compared to a cleaning solution such as L'Art Du Son in a manual cleaning system?
Might be me but those loudspeakers are way to big for that space?
I could swear 5ml per side is more than enough; and a soft brush would have been much more effective.
UPDATE: My mistake, there is another product out of Australia where this comes from, called VRC Spread n'Peel, that only requires 5ml on each side, and is spread with a brush. This stuff requires the whole measuring cup of fluid, and spread with your fingers. I like the former much better.
Instead of using your greasy fingers you could use some blue painter's tape to remove the excess glue?
I'm from England and vinyl records are my best friend! 😥
Wood glue does work - been there, done it. At least a bottle of wood glue tells you what the ingredients are, unlike this stuff. Way too expensive for what you're getting.
probably wood glue.
I think you misspoke. You said that you're hoping that this product is NOT hallucinogenic.
Is it possible to print on a new innersleeve, that it may look like the original?
Best line... _"I'm gonna rhyme-out the guy who designed this!"_ Hilarious Michael as usual!
It's 'ream.'
SP - Specialty, NY
RI - Richmond, IN (Phillips Lighting)
MO - Monarch, CA
CT/CTH - Columbia, Terre Haute IN
CSM - Columbia, Santa Maria CA
CP - Columbia, Pittman NJ
Most of my Atlantics are Monarch...because I'm in the ground outside Whittier, CA. I've urrend evra'thing uhv got!
Does it glue wood?
Does it really need that much liquid on a single side? It looks like about a quarter of a bottle on each record. I'm sure the liquid isn't cheap either.
After all that does it remove static. Was it worth the effort 🤔
It's the good old Disco Film from the 1970's
It's really easier to use a credit card that you might get in the mail from promotional mail to spread the liquid evenly and quickly
Same shit as wood clue but this has a different label and is 20 times more expensive
Analog Planet what chemical damage the vinyl in wood clue....?
Analog Planet you don't know what chemicals are in wood clue and you don't know what chemicals they use in this product... I can tell you that the results are the same wood clue can damage your vinyl but you won't notice this the same is for this product
Tarnlicht damage it how ?
phenomenal xlf.
There is a much cheaper option, but also improved to be more efficient, called the Winyl Gel, look it up :)
"I'm gonna ream out the guy that designed this"
How much of an improvement was there?
I don't see how you can go on a tirade against wood glue when you jumped through all these hoops with something that could just as well be the same thing with a different name (maybe you can even use record revirginizer to repair old furniture)!
I think these were uneven spreads and possibly not thoroughly dried when peeled in the video. With wood glue, I use a business card to spread it out evenly and I use Titebond II; other brands and variations have different set/cure times and there are "cheap" glues out there that are not good for the process. TB2 has been pretty thoroughly community tested and has done well by me so far (used sparingly).
I swear by Titebond II. I mean... it gets down into the grooves and removes _everything._ When you can turn a VG+ into a NM in a few days, what's not to like?